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Post by dewryce on Jun 27, 2019 22:56:24 GMT
The only way to stop all of the nonsense is for Democrats to control the house and the senate. Period. In state government as well. Because this is where the gerrymandering maps are being created, which in turn also affect the national elections.
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 27, 2019 23:45:06 GMT
The only way to stop all of the nonsense is for Democrats to control the house and the senate. Period. In state government as well. Because this is where the gerrymandering maps are being created, which in turn also affect the national elections. Absolutely. Also, in times of great stress, such as in this oppressive regime, states can neutralize some of the harm. (BTW, on an unrelated issue…I know you were invested in the dual-sovereignty issue of the Gamble case. If you hadn’t yet seen it, dual sovereignty has been upheld by the SC. States maintain their ability to prosecute the same offenses already tried in federal courts, and vice versa, and double jeopardy does not apply in these instances.)
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Post by dewryce on Jun 27, 2019 23:50:24 GMT
In state government as well. Because this is where the gerrymandering maps are being created, which in turn also affect the national elections. Absolutely. Also, in times of great stress, such as in this oppressive regime, states can neutralize some of the harm. (BTW, on an unrelated issue…I know you were invested in the dual-sovereignty issue of the Gamble case. If you hadn’t yet seen it, dual sovereignty has been upheld by the SC. States maintain their ability to prosecute the same offenses already tried in federal courts, and vice versa, and double jeopardy does not apply in these instances.) I saw that, thank you for thinking of me! We have to take the “small” victories and keeping plugging away and pushing forward.
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 28, 2019 0:01:28 GMT
Absolutely. Also, in times of great stress, such as in this oppressive regime, states can neutralize some of the harm. (BTW, on an unrelated issue…I know you were invested in the dual-sovereignty issue of the Gamble case. If you hadn’t yet seen it, dual sovereignty has been upheld by the SC. States maintain their ability to prosecute the same offenses already tried in federal courts, and vice versa, and double jeopardy does not apply in these instances.) I saw that, thank you for thinking of me! We have to take the “small” victories and keeping plugging away and pushing forward. That's right. Never lose hope, never lose faith.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 28, 2019 0:53:26 GMT
(BTW, on an unrelated issue…I know you were invested in the dual-sovereignty issue of the Gamble case. If you hadn’t yet seen it, dual sovereignty has been upheld by the SC. States maintain their ability to prosecute the same offenses already tried in federal courts, and vice versa, and double jeopardy does not apply in these instances.) That is what Manafort is fighting in NY just today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 1:06:45 GMT
Ok, watching the debate and the some at MSNBC (Joy Reid) think the gang tonight should go after trump.
But in the course of her mini rant Joy felt the candidate have to do this or have to do that so the base (folks of color) don’t stay home. After all look what happened to Hillary...
Really? At what point are all of these base voters going to “get it”? Regardless of who the Democrats select as their nominee, this is not the election to get all snitty because so and so didn’t promise to them specifically what they wanted. This is the election all the Democrats come together and get rid of trump.
Once that is done then everyone can go back to usual way of showing up or not showing up.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 28, 2019 1:14:45 GMT
He forgets a lot. How about the day, on live TV, he sat at his desk making a phone call (the president of Mexico?) an dhe picked up the phone how many times, because it wasn't working?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 1:19:13 GMT
ABC News...
”Asked whether she thinks Democrats "have a responsibility to explain how they will pay for" their proposals, Sen. Kamala Harris says, "Where was that question when the Republicans and Donald Trump passed a tax bill that benefits the top 1% and the biggest corporations?"
She is my candidate, but she just lost points. This bit of promising the world with no indication how to pay for it needs to stop.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 1:27:11 GMT
PolitiFact...
“Fact-checking Julián Castro’s claim that asylum ‘metering’ caused drowning of father, daughter”
“The photo of Salvadoran migrant Óscar Alberto Martínez Ramírez and his toddler daughter lying dead face down in muddy water became a tragic symbol at the southern border, and a topic in the first Democratic presidential debate.
The father and his nearly 2-year-old daughter, Valeria, drowned in Mexico on the banks of the Rio Grande after they tried to cross a river to Brownsville, Texas. Their bodies were found June 24.
Julián Castro, one of 10 Democrats during the first night of the Miami debates, pointed the finger at what he said was a Trump administration policy. Castro said that if he was president, he would sign an executive order to get rid of controversial immigration policies under Trump, including one he described as "metering."
"This metering policy is basically what prompted Óscar and Valeria to make that risky swim across the river," said Castro, a former San Antonio mayor and Obama administration official. "Óscar and Valeria went to a port of entry, and then they were denied the ability to make an asylum claim, so they got frustrated and they tried to cross the river, and they died because of that."
U.S. Customs and Border Protection uses "metering" as a way to manage the flow of people seeking entry at official ports of entry — capping the daily number of asylum applications received at official border crossings.
We can’t know for certain whether Martínez Ramírez heard about metering or any other policies, so we aren’t rating Castro’s statement on the Truth-O-Meter. But it doesn’t seem far-fetched: Metering may lead migrants to cross the border illegally, according to experts and government investigators.
"It creates a huge incentive for migrants to cross the border between ports of entry in an unauthorized manner, step on U.S. soil, and then make what is known as a ‘defensive’ asylum claim," said Christopher Wilson, deputy director of the Mexico Institute at the Wilson Center.
Oscar Alberto Martínez Ramírez and Valeria
News reports state that Martínez Ramírez, 25, died as he tried to bring his 23-month-old daughter to the United States along with his wife, Tania Vanessa Ávalos. La Jornada, a Mexican newspaper, reported that Tania said the family for two months had been staying at a migrant camp awaiting an appointment to ask for asylum in the United States. La Jornada also reported that the family had a humanitarian visa from Mexico.
ElSalvador.com reported that the couple told their family that the situation in Mexico was becoming difficult based on Trump’s pressure on Mexican officials to stem the flow of illegal immigration to the United States. Given the extended wait in Mexico and worried about Trump’s pressure on Mexico, the couple decided to cross the river.
We do not have official U.S. government confirmation that the family presented themselves at a port of entry and were turned away because of metering.
There may not be tangible proof that metering directly caused them to attempt to swim across the Rio Grande, but it is hard to imagine a father making that decision if he could simply walk across the bridge and present himself and his daughter before U.S. officials," said Wilson, the expert from the Wilson Center.
A CBP spokesman didn’t provide any evidence about Martínez Ramirez, but said the agency has to manage lines when ports of entry reach capacity.
"Metering" asylum seekers
With the Trump administration’s zero-tolerance policy in effect, government officials have still publicly encouraged asylum seekers to enter the United States legally through a port of entry to avoid prosecution and family separations. However, at the same time, Customs and Border Protection is regulating the flow of asylum seekers at ports of entry through "metering." A version of the practice has been used at least as far back as 2016, during the Obama administration, according to a September 2018 report from the Office of Inspector General within the Department of Homeland Security.
When metering, Customs and Border Protection officers stand at the international line in the middle of the foot bridges, the report said, and officers only allow asylum seekers to cross the line if space is available.
"While the stated intentions behind metering may be reasonable, the practice may have unintended consequences," the report stated. "For instance, (Office of Inspector General) saw evidence that limiting the volume of asylum-seekers entering at ports of entry leads some aliens who would otherwise seek legal entry into the United States to cross the border illegally."
The Southern Poverty Law Center and other plaintiffs filed a federal lawsuit in 2018 challenging the metering policy. Melissa Crow, a lead co-counsel, said the policy started in 2016 and ramped up considerably under the Trump administration. The lawsuit remains pending.
A May 2019 study from immigration experts suggests there are more than 18,700 asylum seekers waiting in Mexico border cities. One of the report’s researchers, Stephanie Leutert of the University of Texas, told PolitiFact more specifically that there are around 1,000 people waiting to cross the bridge where Martínez Ramírez was waiting.
A few weeks ago the National Migration Institute, which manages the list in Mexico, made the list private. That has prompted stress for migrants, because they can no longer see their place in line.
"That caused a lot of desperation among migrants," Leutert said.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 28, 2019 1:42:40 GMT
We need a sad-face option for other people’s posts, not just a Like. I can’t Like that post.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 2:24:09 GMT
trump...
“All Democrats just raised their hands for giving millions of illegal aliens unlimited healthcare. How about taking care of American Citizens first!? That’s the end of that race!”
I believe the American People are waiting for you to do it like you promised.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2019 13:02:46 GMT
I CAN’T believe that the immigrant ADVOCATES in NJ are pushing to give special drivers licenses to undocumented immigrants. Who in their right mind would get one right now? Seriously? Like the federal government doesn’t have access to the NJ MVC files via computer, instantly? Why not just send ICE a written invitation? & yeah I’m sure they can find some judge to give them a warrant since being here in ‘illegal’
Yeah ICE FYI, I can be picked up at X address any night all night, just come get me & deport me.
Why would anyone trust THIS administration? Haven’t we had enough ‘I voted for Trump but I’m /my relative are being deported stories?
People are stupid
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 13:06:24 GMT
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Post by suzastampin on Jun 28, 2019 13:11:31 GMT
I CAN’T believe that the immigrant ADVOCATES in NJ are pushing to give special drivers licenses to undocumented immigrants. Who in their right mind would get one right now? Seriously? Like the federal government doesn’t have access to the NJ MVC files via computer, instantly? Why not just send ICE a written invitation? & yeah I’m sure they can find some judge to give them a warrant since being here in ‘illegal’ Yeah ICE FYI, I can be picked up at X address any night all night, just come get me & deport me. Why would anyone trust THIS administration? Haven’t we had enough ‘I voted for Trump but I’m /my relative are being deported stories? People are stupid The Assembly approved it here in NY. The Senate didn’t approve it before the session ended. I said the same thing to my husband. Who would dare get a license??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 13:16:37 GMT
"The claims brought a short response from European council president Donald Tusk at the G20 summit in Osaka on Friday.
“I strongly disagree with the main argument that liberalism is obsolete. Whoever claims that liberal democracy is obsolete, also claims that freedoms are obsolete, that the rule of law is obsolete and that human rights are obsolete,” he said. “For us in Europe, these are and will remain essential and vibrant values. What I find really obsolete are: authoritarianism, personality cults, the rule of oligarchs. Even if sometimes they may seem effective.”"
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 28, 2019 13:28:00 GMT
Tom Cotton is one ignorant racist fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 13:32:28 GMT
Photos speak a thousand words don't you think. At the G20 summit in Japan. Trump and Putin - Trump said in advance he expected a "very good conversation" with Putin but told reporters that "what I say to him is none of your business." Theresa May........“It’s not business as usual and it can’t be business as usual with Russia until they stop the sort of acts we have seen them doing around the world,” she told ITV. “We in the UK have seen the use of a nerve agent, a chemical weapon, on the streets of Salisbury. “But we see other Russian activity around the world – we see the use of disinformation, cyber-attacks – and we need to see Russia desisting from that activity.” link
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 13:54:55 GMT
Check the whole thread. Then spread the news. Talk about "fake".
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Post by artgirl1 on Jun 28, 2019 17:01:20 GMT
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Post by Merge on Jun 28, 2019 19:23:30 GMT
WTAF is this supposed to mean? #gilead
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 28, 2019 19:38:11 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 28, 2019 19:41:18 GMT
I have yelled at the video (and the judges)... put her in a cell with an aluminum blanket, no toothbrush or toothpaste.... oh and little water/food for a few days............. see how she likes it!
ETA: I have given to Raices and ACLU.... I can't cover them all... (A few to Planned Parenthood too...)
I think I heard yesterday on the radio that John Kelly just joined the board of one of the for-profit detention center companies... THAT'S not fishy, at all, is it?!? I think I heard them say the company was charging $700 PER NIGHT to house children in those conditions. And the (R)s were trying to say all this is because the Dems haven't given them the $$ they've been requesting to fix this 'crisis' at the border. It's a moral dilemma to be sure, but they SURELY don't need to be throwing more $$$ at FOR-PROFIT detention centers when DT and his administration are the ones who have CAUSED this 'crisis' themselves in the first place. SEVERELY limiting the amount of people who can come in at any one place, cutting off aid to the COUNTRIES they're coming from, etc. I also think that his rhetoric is causing more people to come now because they worry this is their only chance. Similar to when gun sales increased because of the fear mongering saying that Obama was going to take away all guns. Of course, that wasn’t what Obama wanted to do at all, as opposed to what trump would like to do with immigration. But the point is that trump is creating this crisis in many different ways.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 28, 2019 19:45:07 GMT
WTAF is this supposed to mean? #gilead For sure we know where he stands! NOT for women's reproductive rights!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 28, 2019 19:48:15 GMT
I also think that his rhetoric is causing more people to come now because they worry this is their only chance. Similar to when gun sales increased because of the fear mongering saying that Obama was going to take away all guns. Of course, that wasn’t what Obama wanted to do at all, as opposed to what trump would like to do with immigration. But the point is that trump is creating this crisis in many different ways. Bold mine.... Yes 100% !
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 28, 2019 20:58:30 GMT
WTAF is this supposed to mean? #gilead Da faq?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 21:56:46 GMT
Trump's tweet:- I am in Japan at the G-20, representing our Country well, but I heard it was not a good day for Sleepy Joe or Crazy Bernie. One is exhausted, the other is nuts - so what’s the big deal?Is that really representing his country well on the world stage ..... by publicly insulting his own country's political opposition candidates?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 22:05:16 GMT
What will he say next? Is there no bottom to his barrel? Donald Trump joked with Vladimir Putin about getting rid of journalists and Russian meddling in US elections when the two leaders met at the G20 summit in Japan.
As they sat for photographs at the start of their first formal meeting in nearly a year, the US president lightheartedly sought common ground with Putin at the expense of the journalists around them in Osaka.
“Get rid of them. Fake news is a great term, isn’t it? You don’t have this problem in Russia but we do,” Trump said.
To which Putin responded, in English: “We also have. It’s the same.”
Twenty-six journalists have been murdered in Russia since Putin first became president, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), many of them investigative reporters scrutinising governmental abuses. link
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 28, 2019 22:19:51 GMT
@dottyscrapper you nailed it!! Do not speak ill of our citizens while out of the country. That was addressed on D Day!
Can we mention Jamal Khashoggi? The UN has said we should investigate MBS, but he is jared's good friend, Wazup(sp)!!
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2019 22:23:15 GMT
WTAF is this supposed to mean? #gilead um yes, yes it is. It is MY right to NOT reproduce if I don’t want to. MY RIGHT.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 28, 2019 22:33:24 GMT
Nope, @dottyscrapper. Unfortunately, there is no bottom to his barrel.
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