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Post by chlerbie on Jun 11, 2019 2:24:40 GMT
Has anyone seen this?
Very disturbing but well done mini-series and I feel just horrible for all five of them--but especially for Kory. I actually became friends with Raymond Santana on Facebook after I'd seen the Ken Burns documentary and he is a very nice man. I'm happy that they received a settlement but no money can ever replace everything they lost.
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Post by Zee on Jun 11, 2019 3:00:20 GMT
No but thank you for the reminder, this is on my watch list. I'll try to watch it tomorrow.
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 11, 2019 3:04:14 GMT
I watched it last week. It was heartbreaking and infuriating.
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Post by FurryP on Jun 11, 2019 4:29:23 GMT
It was heartbreaking and infuriating. That. I watched it this weekend. It was really good. Definitely saddest about Kory since he only went to be with his friend but served the longest time. And that Linda Feinberg or whatever her name is, continues to be a horrible person.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 11, 2019 4:40:34 GMT
It was compelling and so hard to watch. Now I want to see the Ken Burns doc.
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Post by disneypal on Jun 11, 2019 13:33:23 GMT
I haven’t heard of this - what is the synopsis?
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Post by myshelly on Jun 11, 2019 13:40:24 GMT
I haven’t heard of this - what is the synopsis? It’s about the Central Park Five
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Post by pyccku on Jun 11, 2019 16:51:11 GMT
Very well done. Also an eye-opening series for the people who think that justice is equal and fair to everyone. If nothing else, it should teach the lesson of "don't talk to the cops without an attorney present, even if you're innocent."
Know your rights. Teach your children to insist on a parent being contacted. Be polite, but don't assume that being helpful and answering questions will "get this all taken care of so you can go home."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 17:00:03 GMT
DH and I saw it last week. It was very well done. I recall the entire thing, having lived in New York, and not to bring Trump into the topic, but I wish that this movie had been done in mid-2016, and it might have possibly impacted Presidential voters. DH said that if he had seen the movie, he wouldn't have voted (he voted for Trump). I'm mystified that more people don't recall this case. This was the beginning of Trump putting his racist views out there, and was probably the beginning of his attempt in the political arena.
I continue to feel terrible for these men. The NY system treated those young boys terribly and no monitary award takes away those nightmares. I'm just glad that the female prosecutor finally got canned (a result of the movie bringing this all to light).
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jun 11, 2019 17:47:33 GMT
I watched it. It was very powerful! I wanted to kill Felicity Huffman's and Vera Farminga's characters. They were truly POS. I had no idea about the story. I'm glad they were cleared!
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Post by med04 on Jun 11, 2019 18:55:11 GMT
It was compelling and so hard to watch. Now I want to see the Ken Burns doc. FYI - The Ken Burns documentary is available to stream via Amazon Prime.
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Post by chlerbie on Jun 11, 2019 19:05:33 GMT
It was heartbreaking and infuriating. That. I watched it this weekend. It was really good. Definitely saddest about Kory since he only went to be with his friend but served the longest time. And that Linda Feinberg or whatever her name is, continues to be a horrible person. However, since this movie has aired, there has been a HUGE backlash against her. She lost her book deal. She had to close down her social media sites. Even her high school received a petition to remove her photo from their Wall of Fame. And they did.
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Post by ralams3 on Jun 11, 2019 20:34:30 GMT
I would suggest reading the Sarah Burns book. It is well researched, and provides a good sense of time and place. It also adds some details lacking in the series.
Chris
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Jun 11, 2019 22:01:40 GMT
It was compelling and so hard to watch. Now I want to see the Ken Burns doc. FYI - The Ken Burns documentary is available to stream via Amazon Prime. Thanks, I didn't know that.
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Post by janeliz on Jun 11, 2019 22:05:11 GMT
Heartbreaking and infuriating, but so well done.
I remember when it happened very clearly, and I also remember not even questioning that they were guilty. I hate that I was once so naive and foolish.
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Post by FurryP on Jun 11, 2019 23:25:56 GMT
That. I watched it this weekend. It was really good. Definitely saddest about Kory since he only went to be with his friend but served the longest time. And that Linda Feinberg or whatever her name is, continues to be a horrible person. However, since this movie has aired, there has been a HUGE backlash against her. She lost her book deal. She had to close down her social media sites. Even her high school received a petition to remove her photo from their Wall of Fame. And they did. Oh yeah I know. I google a lot when I'm watching stuff like this.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jun 12, 2019 18:00:25 GMT
Hey all. I remember hearing very little about this as it happened. I know it was all over the news etc... I just had other things going on in life.
So, I wanted to learn a bit more about it.
I have Comcast with Netflix and was looking for this last night, and it didn't come up as an option. Where are you guys finding it?
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Post by chlerbie on Jun 13, 2019 2:57:42 GMT
Hey all. I remember hearing very little about this as it happened. I know it was all over the news etc... I just had other things going on in life. So, I wanted to learn a bit more about it. I have Comcast with Netflix and was looking for this last night, and it didn't come up as an option. Where are you guys finding it? It's on Netflix.
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Post by alsomsknit on Jun 13, 2019 17:50:59 GMT
We watched Ken Burns’ documentary in my Criminology class. So, I know what happens. That knowledge didn’t help. Have only watched episode one so far, as it is so disturbing how those boys were manipulated by law enforcement. And, the lawyer’s manipulating the facts to support her case...ugh!
We also listened to the Serial podcast on the Adnan Syed case. This led to listening to Undisclosed, which led to listening to the In the Dark podcast on the Charles Flowers case.
This manipulation seems to be way to common. Our justice system has nothing to do with justice.
Have you seen the Washington Post (I think) article that is a refute by Linda Fairstien (again, I think that is the name) of the series? Infuriating! I guess it is how they (the prosecutors) are able to live with themselves.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 13, 2019 18:00:48 GMT
We watched Ken Burns’ documentary in my Criminology class. So, I know what happens. That knowledge didn’t help. Have only watched episode one so far, as it is so disturbing how those boys were manipulated by law enforcement. And, the lawyer’s manipulating the facts to support her case...ugh! We also listened to the Serial podcast on the Adnan Syed case. This led to listening to Undisclosed, which led to listening to the In the Dark podcast on the Charles Flowers case. This manipulation seems to be way to common. Our justice system has nothing to do with justice. Have you seen the Washington Post (I think) article that is a refute by Linda Fairstien (again, I think that is the name) of the series? Infuriating! I guess it is how they (the prosecutors) are able to live with themselves.
She is digging her heels in hard with the "if they weren't guilty of the rape, they were guilty of something else so no big deal they spent years in jail" defense of her actions. I was struck most by the fact that all the boys didn't know each other. I'd assumed they were all friends.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 13, 2019 18:02:24 GMT
For some reason, I thought this was a horror movie. Thank you for the recommendation.
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Post by alsomsknit on Jun 13, 2019 18:40:43 GMT
We watched Ken Burns’ documentary in my Criminology class. So, I know what happens. That knowledge didn’t help. Have only watched episode one so far, as it is so disturbing how those boys were manipulated by law enforcement. And, the lawyer’s manipulating the facts to support her case...ugh! We also listened to the Serial podcast on the Adnan Syed case. This led to listening to Undisclosed, which led to listening to the In the Dark podcast on the Charles Flowers case. This manipulation seems to be way to common. Our justice system has nothing to do with justice. Have you seen the Washington Post (I think) article that is a refute by Linda Fairstien (again, I think that is the name) of the series? Infuriating! I guess it is how they (the prosecutors) are able to live with themselves.
She is digging her heels in hard with the "if they weren't guilty of the rape, they were guilty of something else so no big deal they spent years in jail" defense of her actions. I was struck most by the fact that all the boys didn't know each other. I'd assumed they were all friends. Korey and Yousef were friends. Korey was with Yousef when he was arrested and they asked him to come with them. Guilt by association. Had Korey not been with Yousef at the time Yousef was arrested, Korey would not have had any part in this.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 13, 2019 23:34:50 GMT
She is digging her heels in hard with the "if they weren't guilty of the rape, they were guilty of something else so no big deal they spent years in jail" defense of her actions. I was struck most by the fact that all the boys didn't know each other. I'd assumed they were all friends. Korey and Yousef were friends. Korey was with Yousef when he was arrested and they asked him to come with them. Guilt by association. Had Korey not been with Yousef at the time Yousef was arrested, Korey would not have had any part in this. I didn't say it very well, I meant all five of them weren't friends. Yousef was in the round up of boys taken in for questioning - no one was arrested at that point. It is horrific that Korey went along for moral support and ended up in this nightmare. I think it was Sarah Burns that said that one of the things that made these boys vulnerable to the police coercion techniques was the fact they had never been in trouble before.
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Post by alsomsknit on Jun 14, 2019 0:58:56 GMT
Korey and Yousef were friends. Korey was with Yousef when he was arrested and they asked him to come with them. Guilt by association. Had Korey not been with Yousef at the time Yousef was arrested, Korey would not have had any part in this. I didn't say it very well, I meant all five of them weren't friends. Yousef was in the round up of boys taken in for questioning - no one was arrested at that point. It is horrific that Korey went along for moral support and ended up in this nightmare. I think it was Sarah Burns that said that one of the things that made these boys vulnerable to the police coercion techniques was the fact they had never been in trouble before. Thank you. Questioning not arrest.
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Post by Outspoken on Jun 14, 2019 17:51:30 GMT
I finished the 4th episode last night. In the beginning, one of the things that struck me as odd was that Antron’s dad had apparently been in trouble in his past. I would have thought he would have had more sense about requesting a lawyer or something. But, I don’t know the gap in dad’s arrest, so maybe things were different.
Another thing I wondered is if Korey has a learning disability. I know he is the only one still in NY and most of the others are now in Georgia. Does anyone know what happened to Raymond’s drug charge? I would have thought since it were a different crime, he would have had a separate trial for it.
This whole incident just makes me so mad!
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Post by chlerbie on Jun 14, 2019 19:01:00 GMT
I finished the 4th episode last night. In the beginning, one of the things that struck me as odd was that Antron’s dad had apparently been in trouble in his past. I would have thought he would have had more sense about requesting a lawyer or something. But, I don’t know the gap in dad’s arrest, so maybe things were different. Another thing I wondered is if Korey has a learning disability. I know he is the only one still in NY and most of the others are now in Georgia. Does anyone know what happened to Raymond’s drug charge? I would have thought since it were a different crime, he would have had a separate trial for it. This whole incident just makes me so mad! Yes, Korey has a learning disability and also hearing loss. Raymond was released from jail when they were exonerated, with the judge basically saying he'd already served time and that he felt what had happened had led to the finding of crack in his apartment.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Jun 14, 2019 19:19:04 GMT
For some reason, I thought this was a horror movie. Thank you for the recommendation. It kind of is a horror movie.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 14, 2019 22:16:22 GMT
For some reason, I thought this was a horror movie. Thank you for the recommendation. It kind of is a horror movie. Well there is that.
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Post by mrssmith on Jun 14, 2019 22:35:38 GMT
For some reason, I thought this was a horror movie. Thank you for the recommendation. It kind of is a horror movie. Exactly - for many, it is.
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Post by mrssmith on Jun 14, 2019 22:37:26 GMT
I finished the 4th episode last night. In the beginning, one of the things that struck me as odd was that Antron’s dad had apparently been in trouble in his past. I would have thought he would have had more sense about requesting a lawyer or something. But, I don’t know the gap in dad’s arrest, so maybe things were different. Another thing I wondered is if Korey has a learning disability. I know he is the only one still in NY and most of the others are now in Georgia. Does anyone know what happened to Raymond’s drug charge? I would have thought since it were a different crime, he would have had a separate trial for it. This whole incident just makes me so mad! I'm not certain requesting a lawyer would have helped. I've only seen one episode and if it's true that some of the kids were interrogated without parents, I don't know that they would have been given access to a lawyer.
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