MizIndependent
Drama Llama
Quit your bullpoop.
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Jun 25, 2014 19:43:16 GMT
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 12, 2019 19:17:36 GMT
I really miss Jon Stewart but I'm so glad he's out there fighting.
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katybee
Drama Llama
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Jun 25, 2014 23:25:39 GMT
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Post by katybee on Jun 12, 2019 19:27:19 GMT
He was amazing. And it’s ridiculous he is having to do this yet again. Congress needs to pull their heads out of their asses and re-authorize this bill permanently!
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Post by quinlove on Jun 12, 2019 19:32:39 GMT
I ❤️ him. Thanks for posting this. I was following it.
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rodeomom
Pearl Clutcher
Refupee # 380 "I don't have to run fast, I just have to run faster than you."
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Location: Chickasaw Nation, Oklahoma
Jun 25, 2014 23:34:38 GMT
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Post by rodeomom on Jun 12, 2019 19:37:30 GMT
I cried
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Post by nysparkle on Jun 12, 2019 20:28:11 GMT
It was just passed by the House. Now we wait for the Senate. They better step up and pass it.I agree John is amazing.
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Post by angieh1996 on Jun 12, 2019 20:36:33 GMT
his speech was amazing. Sad he had to do it.
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Post by mom on Jun 12, 2019 20:46:16 GMT
I am really glad you posted about this. He is awesome. And I agreee, he shouldn't have to be doing this.
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teddyw
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Jun 29, 2014 1:56:04 GMT
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Post by teddyw on Jun 12, 2019 21:44:29 GMT
I was reading Twitter comments on this and someone said there wouldn’t be all those empty seats if there was an attendance stipend.
I’m pretty sure they’re already paid to be there. It’s so ridiculous that this isn’t permanent.
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Oct 6, 2024 3:01:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 21:52:09 GMT
I was reading Twitter comments on this and someone said there wouldn’t be all those empty seats if there was an attendance stipend. I’m pretty sure they’re already paid to be there. It’s so ridiculous that this isn’t permanent. But their pay isn't tied to how many times they are in attendance or vote/abstain. This is also why we need term limits.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 12, 2019 21:55:51 GMT
I think it was a very powerful plea. I also got very emotional listening to him. It was not a prepared/read speech, it was just a very real, raw and desperate plea with lawmakers to take control, take responsibility, and do what the country needs them to do. On the seating, though, I thought I heard that it was a 14 member committee that they were addressing and that 2 members not there. The room held something like 50 so that was why it looked so empty. BUT I could be totally WRONG about this. I have not gone back and researched it...I am just throwing caution to the wind and posting it.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jun 12, 2019 23:35:46 GMT
Before Jon Stewart spoke, there was a First Responder who spoke and said that today he is going in for his 69th chemo treatment. What these men and women have been through medically is H*LL. Then the work they did on the "pile" exposing themselves to unbelievable anguish as they sorted through the wreckage for body parts. Putting themselves through that horror day after day takes honor and guts. He mentioned the first day hearing the man down alarms going off of bodies they could not get to. He said those alarms were all over and was all you could hear for that first day until the batteries on the alarms wore out. That was one aspect I had never heard about before of the tragedy of 911. One has to wonder if some of those firemen were still alive and the Fist Responders had to live with the grief of knowing they could not save them. These men and women deserve MUCH better than when they have been given. For Congress to treat them they way they did was so dishonorable.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 13, 2019 0:00:20 GMT
I think it was a very powerful plea. I also got very emotional listening to him. It was not a prepared/read speech, it was just a very real, raw and desperate plea with lawmakers to take control, take responsibility, and do what the country needs them to do. On the seating, though, I thought I heard that it was a 14 member committee that they were addressing and that 2 members not there. The room held something like 50 so that was why it looked so empty. BUT I could be totally WRONG about this. I have not gone back and researched it...I am just throwing caution to the wind and posting it. When Stewart was speaking only 5 of the 14 were there.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 13, 2019 0:11:15 GMT
When Stewart was speaking only 5 of the 14 were there. Thanks for the info. Absolutely awful that they did not all show up and/or stay for the entire meeting.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 13, 2019 0:15:10 GMT
When Stewart was speaking only 5 of the 14 were there. Thanks for the info. Absolutely awful that they did not all show up and/or stay for the entire meeting. Honestly, there are other subcommittee hearings going on at the same time so in general I understand why there can’t be 100% attendance at every SC meeting. For this bill, for these men and women, I have a very hard time with it. At the least have enough in attendance to well represent your party and hear the information, ask questions, show some damn respect.
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TankTop
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Jun 28, 2014 1:52:46 GMT
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Post by TankTop on Jun 13, 2019 0:21:00 GMT
I have a question... when he made the point about this not being a natural disaster but an attack, an act of war, I got to thinking...
This may be a dumb question, but why can’t they declare the first responders veterans and therefore afford them the benefits of the brave men and women who fought in battles that were spawned from the attacks?
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scrapngranny
Pearl Clutcher
Only slightly senile
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Jun 25, 2014 23:21:30 GMT
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 13, 2019 0:50:00 GMT
His speech was amazing, but it shouldn’t take a speech like that to get aid for the 9/11 first responders. The same for military vets. It is deplorable how those who serve us and give their all get no respect and have to beg for medical care.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 13, 2019 0:50:46 GMT
Thanks for the info. Absolutely awful that they did not all show up and/or stay for the entire meeting. Honestly, there are other subcommittee hearings going on at the same time so in general I understand why there can’t be 100% attendance at every SC meeting. For this bill, for these men and women, I have a very hard time with it. At the least have enough in attendance to well represent your party and hear the information, ask questions, show some damn respect. I agree. I know everyone has a lot going on...but to me it is priorities, and this should have been one.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 13, 2019 0:57:56 GMT
I was reading Twitter comments on this and someone said there wouldn’t be all those empty seats if there was an attendance stipend. I’m pretty sure they’re already paid to be there. It’s so ridiculous that this isn’t permanent. But their pay isn't tied to how many times they are in attendance or vote/abstain. This is also why we need term limits. We already have term limits aka elections. We are able to toss them out if they don’t perform to our expectations. If we don’t, that’s on us, not the lack of term limits. I want the option to keep my Congressman and Senators around for a good long time if I like them. I don’t want someone from out of state (anyone, nothing personal here) deciding that my representatives have served long enough already.
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Post by Belia on Jun 13, 2019 1:34:56 GMT
Stewart / Colbert 2020
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 13, 2019 2:51:43 GMT
Wow, how powerful! I teared up 50 seconds in. I love that man, and really miss him.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 13, 2019 3:11:27 GMT
But their pay isn't tied to how many times they are in attendance or vote/abstain. This is also why we need term limits. We already have term limits aka elections. We are able to toss them out if they don’t perform to our expectations. If we don’t, that’s on us, not the lack of term limits. I want the option to keep my Congressman and Senators around for a good long time if I like them. I don’t want someone from out of state (anyone, nothing personal here) deciding that my representatives have served long enough already. I’m not sure exactly where I fall on the term limits debate, but I wanted to comment on the bolded thought. Is it completely though? When you consider gerrymandering, votor suppression, foreign influence, the need for campaign financing reform, and the fact that power begets more power it feels like our votes don’t hold the power they should.
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likescarrots
Pearl Clutcher
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Aug 16, 2014 17:52:53 GMT
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Post by likescarrots on Jun 13, 2019 3:33:51 GMT
We already have term limits aka elections. We are able to toss them out if they don’t perform to our expectations. If we don’t, that’s on us, not the lack of term limits. I want the option to keep my Congressman and Senators around for a good long time if I like them. I don’t want someone from out of state (anyone, nothing personal here) deciding that my representatives have served long enough already. I’m not sure exactly where I fall on the term limits debate, but I wanted to comment on the bolded thought. Is it completely though? When you consider gerrymandering, votor suppression, foreign influence, the need for campaign financing reform, and the fact that power begets more power it feels like our votes don’t hold the power they should. well in that case (and I agree), our democracy is fucked and term limits aren't going to fix it.
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M in Carolina
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Jun 29, 2014 12:11:41 GMT
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Post by M in Carolina on Jun 13, 2019 4:34:55 GMT
It’s a travesty that the first responders have had to fight for this. Even once.
My husband’s grandfather was a coal miner and had black lung. It took *years* for doctors to even agree that it existed because the mining companies didn’t want to have to pay for the medical care. My MIL was a little girl in the coal mining town. She has COPD and other lung problems, even though she’s a non smoker and didn’t grow up with any. She can’t even go visit her grandkids because their house is by a coal powered steel mill. Last time she went, she wound up in the hospital despite bringing her breathing treatment machine and doing a couple a day.
The way that corporations in the US and even the FDA can influence doctors to cover up medical problems because those who caused the problems would have to pay for victim’s care is just as deplorable as our government refusing to pay for the care of these heros.
Any person who was rescued by these men and women owe their very lives to them. Congress should be scared shitless not to pay for their care.
It shouldn’t have even needed to be a hearing to begin with. Stewart was also right about no American needing to choose between paying for medical care or having a place to live. There’s no excuse for not giving these heros, veterans, and even American healthcare. We’re the only first world country that doesn’t. Although Congress gets free healthcare for life.
It all boils down to money. Which is repulsive.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 13, 2019 4:48:07 GMT
I cried!
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Post by nysparkle on Jun 13, 2019 18:06:57 GMT
I want this as a bumper sticker now!
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