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Post by Heathen on Jun 16, 2019 12:14:15 GMT
My seventeen-year-old house tiger was diagnosed this week with chronic kidney disease. It was not a surprise at all, because of her age. She will be on a prescription kidney diet along with cosequin for the cystitis she was also diagnosed with this week. She's otherwise healthy and active and is the queen here. She will be eighteen in September.
I'd like to hear your experiences with kidney disease in elderly cats. I've done subcutaneous fluids in foster kittens and an adult foster, and I know that will probably be next for my girl when she gets to that point. Her vet also mentioned we could do phosphate binder medication in the future if indicated. He does not think she is anywhere near ready to go.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 16, 2019 13:48:34 GMT
I have had 2 cats with kidney failure in their old age. They refused the kidney diet (this tastes healthy! I'm not eating this) so their only treatment was subq fluids. The hardest part of that was getting my husband to help me, the cats didn't mind it at all. Good luck to you and your baby girl.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 16, 2019 14:22:11 GMT
Ask your vet if Fortekor (Benazepril hydrochloride) may be appropriate.
I used it for my cat with early stage renal failure and it was very successful. It's been specially approved here for use in cats with renal failure.
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Post by birukitty on Jun 16, 2019 14:42:42 GMT
It is not "normal" for cats to get kidney disease in their older ages but it sadly has become common in this day and age. Why? Because of the kibble we feed our cats. Cats aren't designed by nature to exist on a dry diet day after day. Nature designed them to get a portion of their daily liquid needs met by their food. They simply cannot drink enough water to satisfy this need. But here we are with vets advising us that dry kibble is a fine diet to feed them day after day. I didn't discover this until my 15 year old cat Biru came down with kidney disease 5 years ago and I did a lot of research online while looking for a better quality food for him instead of the prescription diet we bought at our vet's office.
First of all he refused to eat it. He lost more and more weight and was looking positively skeletal. We tried the canned and the dry. I tried other foods finding lists online of foods with low ash and potassium (these foods were better for cats with kidney disease) but for me (the perfectionist) this still wasn't good enough. We were also doing the sub-Q fluids. 2 weeks later I came across this website http://www.felineinstincts.com They are a company that believe in a raw food diet so much so that they had developed a powder based organic formula that when mixed with your own ground meat at home with water and salmon oil would make a very healthy raw food that cats would thrive on. They even had a kidney diseased based version that you added canned pumpkin to also. So we decided to try it. I made up a batch (it only took 10 minutes or less) and started feeding it to both cats-his brother cat James was 16, Biru was 15-I read that it wouldn't hurt James. James took to it right away. Biru was a bit stubborn so I put pieces of tuna fish on top of his-that only took a few feedings and then I stopped doing that. They loved the food and it was only a couple of weeks later that we saw a change in both cats. They started acting like kittens again. Running up and down the stairs, chasing each other, and their coats were looking so much better. James our obese cat lost weight and became much healthier. Bur the biggest change was in Biru. He looked and felt so much better.
We took him back to his vet after the first month and the vet was shocked at his blood work numbers. We were able to stop his sub-Q treatments and never had to do them again which was a great relief to Biru and us. Biru lived another 2 years and passed away from a blood clot (a completely unrelated cause). James lived another 2 years too and died from stomach cancer. I learned a lot from this experience and when we got Jesse 18 months later this food (we now get the healthy cat version) is all Jesse eats. Cost wise-I haven't added it up but I believe it is less than the prescription food. I know I looked up Royal Canin on dogfoodadvisor.com (wish they had an equal cat site) and it came up very low in quality). It doesn't matter to me. I now believe healthy food in equals less costs and suffering later.
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Post by Heathen on Jun 16, 2019 18:17:12 GMT
My Penny doesn't eat dry food at all. She hasn't eaten kibble in probably five years, since I switched her to a wet food-only diet. She will eat freeze-dried raw food on occasion, but not consistently. My other cats eat primarily wet food as well. Kibble didn't cause this -- age did. pjaye , it looks like Fortekor is available in the US. I'm going to email the vet about it. Thank you! QueenoftheSloths , I was surprised when she ate the prescription food so easily. She was on a different kind of prescription food briefly, years ago, and she hated it. Apparently, she thinks the kidney diet is quite tasty, or maybe it's just new. I wouldn't be surprised if I bought a few cases and then she turned up her nose.
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Post by gale w on Jun 16, 2019 20:30:19 GMT
Our 18 year old cat is beginning to show the first stages of kidney failure. We tried the special diets (two different brands) and he would eat them for a few days and then wouldn't. The receptionist at the vet suggested some drops in his mouth to improve his appetite but it would have to be given every few days and I'm not going to put him through that. We just switched back to his regular food, increased the amount of canned, and let him be happy in his last days.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 16, 2019 22:26:06 GMT
QueenoftheSloths , I was surprised when she ate the prescription food so easily. She was on a different kind of prescription food briefly, years ago, and she hated it. Apparently, she thinks the kidney diet is quite tasty, or maybe it's just new. I wouldn't be surprised if I bought a few cases and then she turned up her nose. That's how it works for me when I buy a case of anything!
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Post by Heathen on Jun 17, 2019 19:43:22 GMT
QueenoftheSloths , I was surprised when she ate the prescription food so easily. She was on a different kind of prescription food briefly, years ago, and she hated it. Apparently, she thinks the kidney diet is quite tasty, or maybe it's just new. I wouldn't be surprised if I bought a few cases and then she turned up her nose. That's how it works for me when I buy a case of anything! Same here, whether prescription food or not. My girl will eat something well for awhile and then just refuse to touch it, even her favorites. It drives me nuts.
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