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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 13:00:41 GMT
"The 16-year-old girl was visibly intoxicated, her speech slurred, when a drunk 16-year-old boy sexually assaulted her in a dark basement during an alcohol-fueled pajama party in New Jersey, prosecutors said. The boy filmed himself penetrating her from behind, her torso exposed, her head hanging down, prosecutors said. He later shared the cellphone video among friends, investigators said, and sent a text that said, “When your first time having sex was rape.” But a family court judge said it wasn’t rape. Instead, he wondered aloud if it was sexual assault, defining rape as something reserved for an attack at gunpoint by strangers. He also said the young man came from a good family, attended an excellent school, had terrific grades and was an Eagle scout. Prosecutors, the judge said, should have explained to the girl and her family that pressing charges would destroy the boy’s life. So he denied prosecutors’ motion to try the 16-year-old as an adult. “He is clearly a candidate for not just college but probably for a good college,” Judge James Troiano of Superior Court said last year in a two-hour decision while sitting in Monmouth County." How many of these horrific acts have been unpunished through centuries and centuries because the judge can identify w/the rapist but not the victim. Sick. www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/nyregion/judge-james-troiano-rape.htmlPaying attention WORKS Taking action WORKS Ignoring, apathy DON'T WORK!!!
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jul 3, 2019 13:09:02 GMT
There are no words to describe the sickening feeling I get with this. That judge needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY. I want that kids picture plastered everywhere so it haunts him the rest of his life, because what he did will haunt that girl the rest of hers.
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Post by gritzi on Jul 3, 2019 13:14:33 GMT
Horrific!
An appeals court rebuked the judge .... "In doing so, the appeals court cleared the way for the case to be moved from family court to a grand jury, where the teenager, identified only as G.M.C. in court documents, will be treated as an adult. New Jersey law allows juveniles as young as 15 to be tried as adults when accused of serious crimes, and the grand jury will weigh whether to indict him on the sexual assault accusation."
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 3, 2019 13:26:23 GMT
This is so mind boggling to me.
"Well, other than raping this girl, but it wasn't really rape because it was only one guy and not in an alley, he's a good kid and should have a future." What the actual F?!!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 3, 2019 13:28:29 GMT
Oh FFS! That kind of crap infuriates me that it’s 2019 and girls/women are still being treated like second class citizens. Sometimes animals get more respect than women do. That a-hole kid needs to go to JAIL, not college! That poor girl. How humiliating.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 13:31:26 GMT
Im sorry but judges like that need to be removed from the bench.
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Post by 16joy on Jul 3, 2019 13:32:56 GMT
Hopefully, he'll lose his seat. I don't think some men get it until it happens to someone in their family or close friends. Can he be charged with distributing child porn since he shared the video or was she pass the age for that charge? I think since he used rape in sharing the video he knew exactly what he was doing and it was a crime.
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Post by gar on Jul 3, 2019 13:33:10 GMT
I wonder if he’d feel the same if it was his wife or daughter.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 3, 2019 13:33:29 GMT
I hope someone competent runs against this asshole in the next election for judge.
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Post by verdepea on Jul 3, 2019 13:44:57 GMT
I read this article last night, from the same article:
In (AN)other case, the appellate division reversed another judge’s decision not to try a 16-year-old boy as an adult after he was accused of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl in 2017.
The second family court judge, Marcia Silva, sitting in Middlesex County, denied a motion to try the teenager as an adult and said that “beyond losing her virginity, the State did not claim that the victim suffered any further injuries, either physical, mental or emotional.”
The appellate judges also upbraided Judge Silva, overturning her decision and noting that the teenager could be culpable because the 12-year-old was not old enough to provide consent in the first place.
Horrifying! And people STILL question why women don't speak out. EVEN TODAY if they do, the courts do not hold men/boys accountable. But hey if you are a feminist, you hate men.
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Post by elaine on Jul 3, 2019 13:45:26 GMT
I wonder if he’d feel the same if it was his wife or daughter. Misogynistic jerk that he is, he might. But, I bet if it happened to his SON, he’d feel very very different.
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Post by 16joy on Jul 3, 2019 13:52:42 GMT
apparently, this pass is given by female judges as the article noted. Does that lady really not think she suffered physical, mental or emotional problems from the attack. The judge's bias was abhorrent as well.
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Post by gillyp on Jul 3, 2019 13:55:16 GMT
Horrific! An appeals court rebuked the judge .... "In doing so, the appeals court cleared the way for the case to be moved from family court to a grand jury, where the teenager, identified only as G.M.C. in court documents, will be treated as an adult. New Jersey law allows juveniles as young as 15 to be tried as adults when accused of serious crimes, and the grand jury will weigh whether to indict him on the sexual assault accusation." I don’t understand. Has the girl lodged an appeal and the boy will now be tried at a higher court? That judge needs a reality check.
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Post by Merge on Jul 3, 2019 14:07:02 GMT
The more I read stuff like that, the more I assume the judges who rule in favor of the rapist have a little "not really rape-rape" in their own past. This is how we get a Kavanaugh on the highest court in the land and a Trump in the White House - by excusing rape as just a moment of poor behavior or "twenty minutes of action."
Sick.
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Post by LeaP on Jul 3, 2019 14:14:37 GMT
We women need to band together and vote, protest and fight for awareness. Our country is maintaining the status quo insofar as patriarchy is concerned. If not for ourselves for our daughters.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 3, 2019 14:16:28 GMT
"The 16-year-old girl was visibly intoxicated, her speech slurred, when a drunk 16-year-old boy sexually assaulted her in a dark basement during an alcohol-fueled pajama party in New Jersey, prosecutors said. The boy filmed himself penetrating her from behind, her torso exposed, her head hanging down, prosecutors said. He later shared the cellphone video among friends, investigators said, and sent a text that said, “When your first time having sex was rape.” But a family court judge said it wasn’t rape. Instead, he wondered aloud if it was sexual assault, defining rape as something reserved for an attack at gunpoint by strangers. He also said the young man came from a good family, attended an excellent school, had terrific grades and was an Eagle scout. Prosecutors, the judge said, should have explained to the girl and her family that pressing charges would destroy the boy’s life. So he denied prosecutors’ motion to try the 16-year-old as an adult. “He is clearly a candidate for not just college but probably for a good college,” Judge James Troiano of Superior Court said last year in a two-hour decision while sitting in Monmouth County." How many of these horrific acts have been unpunished through centuries and centuries because the judge can identify w/the rapist but not the victim. Sick. www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/nyregion/judge-james-troiano-rape.htmlThis makes me physically ill. Time to start letter writing and email for this judge to get a lobotomy.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 3, 2019 14:16:58 GMT
Im sorry but judges like that need to be removed from the bench. Physically if necessary.
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 3, 2019 14:24:22 GMT
" Mr. Troiano, a veteran judge who retired several years ago, was asked to occasionally fill vacancies on the bench."
He should never,ever be allowed to fill a vacancy again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 14:25:15 GMT
Clearly that good family didn't teach their son any morals, respect or understanding the need for consent. The school can't be excellent either if they don't teach the same morals and respect for others. I have no words to describe their son and certainly none to describe the judge.
How sick are these people to do or think there is nothing wrong here. I hope the grand jury throws the book at him but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 3, 2019 14:27:13 GMT
I wonder if he’d feel the same if it was his wife or daughter. Misogynistic jerk that he is, he might. But, I bet if it happened to his SON, he’d feel very very different. Boy! You said a mouthful right there! 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 14:28:40 GMT
We women need to band together and vote, protest and fight for awareness. Our country is maintaining the status quo insofar as patriarchy is concerned. If not for ourselves for our daughters. Women, and fathers. for that matter have just as much responsibility to teach their sons that this kind of thing is totally unacceptable behaviour.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 3, 2019 14:29:47 GMT
The more I read stuff like that, the more I assume the judges who rule in favor of the rapist have a little "not really rape-rape" in their own past. This is how we get a Kavanaugh on the highest court in the land and a Trump in the White House - by excusing rape as just a moment of poor behavior or "twenty minutes of action." Sick. Yes, I have always thought the same thing about judges who let DUIs off with a hand slap. Those judges are drunks and drunk drivers themselves.
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Post by 16joy on Jul 3, 2019 14:41:30 GMT
dottyscrapper grand juries make the decision to indict(charge) or not based on a prosecutor's presentation of his evidence. A grand jury isn't a part of a trial. that would come later and a separate jury would be seated for tha. I don't have a law degree but that's a simple explanation in my state in the U.S.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 14:45:15 GMT
dottyscrapper grand juries make the decision to indict(charge) or not based on a prosecutor's presentation of his evidence. A grand jury isn't a part of a trial. that would come later and a separate jury would be seated for tha. I don't have a law degree but that's a simple explanation in my state in the U.S. Thank you Why would it need to go to a grand jury? he's already confessed to rape in the text he sent. There is no need for a defence or the need to make a decision whether to prosecute when you confess to a crime and rape is a crime.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 14:47:43 GMT
dottyscrapper grand juries make the decision to indict(charge) or not based on a prosecutor's presentation of his evidence. A grand jury isn't a part of a trial. that would come later and a separate jury would be seated for tha. I don't have a law degree but that's a simple explanation in my state in the U.S. Thank you Why would it need to go to a grand jury? he's already confessed to rape in the text he sent. There is no need for a defence or the need to make a decision whether to prosecute when you confess to a crime and rape is a crime.
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Post by elaine on Jul 3, 2019 14:50:44 GMT
apparently, this pass is given by female judges as the article noted. Does that lady really not think she suffered physical, mental or emotional problems from the attack. The judge's bias was abhorrent as well. Two different cases, two different judges - one male (the OP) and one female (later case). Unfortunately, women can be misogynistic too - and learned hatred of women from numerous sources. When I was teaching at a military academy, my Dh (also teaching there) and I were always floored by how the female cadets tore each other down in cases of sexual assault, and supported the male assaulters even though all involved were fellow cadets.
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Post by 16joy on Jul 3, 2019 15:17:22 GMT
Dottyscrapper In the US everyone is entitled to defend themselves against charges and see his accusers. He'll have his day in court. His text of admitting rape is going to be hard to overcome. I would think his lawyer would try to work a plea deal (that lessens the possibility of the maximum sentence) where he would just plead guilty. The prosecutor may decide to not make a deal and proceed with a jury trial on all original charges and a jury will decide if he's guilty.
again, I'm not a lawyer and this is just overall basic info. A victim may not want to appear in court and may want a prosecutor to get a plea deal instead of a jury trial
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Post by sabrinae on Jul 3, 2019 15:24:38 GMT
Thank you Why would it need to go to a grand jury? he's already confessed to rape in the text he sent. There is no need for a defence or the need to make a decision whether to prosecute when you confess to a crime and rape is a crime. A grand jury that is made up of community members and decides whether or not there is probable cause to prosecute is a constitutional right in the U.S. it’s a step every case has to go through. There are a few exceptions but those involve the defendant waiving the grand jury process. Only the prosecutor presents evidence and the burden of proof is only probable cause. It’s a constitutional protection
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Post by busy on Jul 3, 2019 15:26:32 GMT
dottyscrapper grand juries make the decision to indict(charge) or not based on a prosecutor's presentation of his evidence. A grand jury isn't a part of a trial. that would come later and a separate jury would be seated for tha. I don't have a law degree but that's a simple explanation in my state in the U.S. Thank you Why would it need to go to a grand jury? he's already confessed to rape in the text he sent. There is no need for a defence or the need to make a decision whether to prosecute when you confess to a crime and rape is a crime. That's not a legal confession. Certainly it could be used in a trial as evidence against him, but someone can't be imprisoned based on something like that alone without due process.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 3, 2019 16:01:10 GMT
We are not doing so well these days here in NJ with our judges..
BTW: ALL our judges are appointed.
Our governor is facing some issues... NO he was not the alleged offender, but one of his high male campaign workers, now working for the governor, has been accused of rape during the campaign, she also works for the state now too. She has publicly testified in the state 'congress' ...... she told people including her DH right away... So far it is NOT being addressed.
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