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Post by refugeepea on Jul 7, 2019 19:14:53 GMT
It's also rumored that Prince Charles was once involved with Epstein too. AND yes I realize this is a gossip site. It will be interesting to see how factual this ends up being. "Kind of hypocritical of this older foreign born A list royal to make a decision on the music of this A++ list celebrity when he himself was best buddies with a notorious child molester and his brother is still best friends with the billionaire molester.
Prince Charles (who is also in the "black book"/Michael Jackson/Jeffrey Epstein/Prince Andrew (Future of Michael Jackson West End musical Thriller Live is thrown into doubt after Prince’s Trust cuts ties with show following allegations of child abuse in Leaving Neverland documentary) (Teen ‘who had sex with Prince Andrew’ was snared by perv Jeffrey Epstein at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort where she worked) (Here Is Pedophile Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book/page 45 Prince Charles)
(Massive Fire Spotted On Private Island Owned By Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein)"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 19:15:30 GMT
Just wait for it.... The trump cultist/apologists will be out in full force to start throwing around Bill Clinton being involved...(if he was a part of this epic scandal—then take him down too!) ...just to deflect and detract from trump’s involvement. They already are!!!!!!! They're out in full force, mostly bringing up Pres Clinton (and the Lolita Bus) and Prince Andrew. Whilest they MIGHT have been serviced by Epstein/Trump's stable of young girls, they are NOT the ones who ran the ring!!!!!!!!!! And, I doubt highly that President Clinton had a penchant for underage girls. He's not that stupid or desperate!
This link explained a lot of details (some I didn't know!). Very interesting. I've FOREVER heard about "Maria", back in the early 1980's. I don't think it was more recent (2000's)......... but this is interesting: www.justice-integrity.org/about-jip2/articles
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 19:20:21 GMT
It's also rumored that Prince Charles was once involved with Epstein too. AND yes I realize this is a gossip site. It will be interesting to see how factual this ends up being. "Kind of hypocritical of this older foreign born A list royal to make a decision on the music of this A++ list celebrity when he himself was best buddies with a notorious child molester and his brother is still best friends with the billionaire molester. Prince Charles (who is also in the "black book"/Michael Jackson/Jeffrey Epstein/Prince Andrew (Future of Michael Jackson West End musical Thriller Live is thrown into doubt after Prince’s Trust cuts ties with show following allegations of child abuse in Leaving Neverland documentary) (Teen ‘who had sex with Prince Andrew’ was snared by perv Jeffrey Epstein at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort where she worked) (Here Is Pedophile Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book/page 45 Prince Charles) (Massive Fire Spotted On Private Island Owned By Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein)" We're looking at shiny object here. I doubt that Prince Charles was involved with minors! Skip all of that (about Clinton, Prince Andrew, Prince Charles, etc............) and focus on the fact that Epstein got some young girls from Trump's Mar-a-Lago. Focus on how often Trump was at the Wexner mansion in NYC for decades. Focus on Trump owning a "modeling agency" and the Miss Teen Universe........... He has FOREVER made attempts to be near young girls, esp if they resembled his daughter, Ivanka. I hope it will all come out.
I looked on Wikipedia and did find that Epstein taught in NYC in the 1970's. I KNEW that he had this sex ring of underage girls there and remember it clearly. Some more info on him: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 7, 2019 19:32:36 GMT
We're looking at shiny object here. I'm not trying to distract from anything. People were mentioning others involved. I don't know the exact details of every encounter. I don't see how I'm supposed to know the age of people Prince Charles may or may not have had sex with.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 7, 2019 19:35:20 GMT
Focus on how often Trump was at the Wexner mansion in NYC for decades. Focus on Trump owning a "modeling agency" and the Miss Teen Universe........... He has FOREVER made attempts to be near young girls, esp if they resembled his daughter, Ivanka. I hope it will all come out. I was focusing on the subject of the thread. Epstein being arrested. I was commenting on other big names involved that have been rumored.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 7, 2019 19:37:27 GMT
We're looking at shiny object here. I'm not trying to distract from anything. People were mentioning others involved. I don't know the exact details of every encounter. I agree. Yes, it’s very important if the POTUS was in any way involved. But this isn’t (only) about politics. This is about stopping it going forward and justice for what these girls/women endured. There were a lot of perpetrators that should be held responsible. For fixing whatever allowed him/them for getting away with this for so long to hopefully stop something similar from happening again.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 7, 2019 19:40:10 GMT
I agree. Yes, it’s very important if the POTUS was in any way involved. But this isn’t (only) about politics. This is about stopping it going forward and justice for what these girls/women endured. There were a lot of perpetrators that should be held responsible. Thank you. And really if this was sex trafficking does the age of the women matter if they were forced to do sex acts? If President Clinton was involved it shouldn't be ignored either.
Absolutely Trump does look to be heavily involved with everything.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 7, 2019 19:54:26 GMT
I agree. Yes, it’s very important if the POTUS was in any way involved. But this isn’t (only) about politics. This is about stopping it going forward and justice for what these girls/women endured. There were a lot of perpetrators that should be held responsible. Thank you. And really if this was sex trafficking does the age of the women matter if they were forced to do sex acts? If President Clinton was involved it shouldn't be ignored either.
Absolutely Trump does look to be heavily involved with everything.
I think it does, acts against minors have harsher sentences don’t they? But that does not mean we should gloss over or ignore the other sexual offenses, including any by Clinton if that proves to be true.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 7, 2019 20:06:04 GMT
I think it does, acts against minors have harsher sentences don’t they? Yes, in terms of sentencing.
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Post by trollie on Jul 7, 2019 20:29:14 GMT
Anyone caught up in this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care who it is.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 7, 2019 20:53:09 GMT
It's also rumored that Prince Charles was once involved with Epstein too. AND yes I realize this is a gossip site. It will be interesting to see how factual this ends up being. "Kind of hypocritical of this older foreign born A list royal to make a decision on the music of this A++ list celebrity when he himself was best buddies with a notorious child molester and his brother is still best friends with the billionaire molester. Prince Charles (who is also in the "black book"/Michael Jackson/Jeffrey Epstein/Prince Andrew (Future of Michael Jackson West End musical Thriller Live is thrown into doubt after Prince’s Trust cuts ties with show following allegations of child abuse in Leaving Neverland documentary) (Teen ‘who had sex with Prince Andrew’ was snared by perv Jeffrey Epstein at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort where she worked) (Here Is Pedophile Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book/page 45 Prince Charles) (Massive Fire Spotted On Private Island Owned By Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein)" We're looking at shiny object here. I doubt that Prince Charles was involved with minors! Skip all of that (about Clinton, Prince Andrew, Prince Charles, etc............) and focus on the fact that Epstein got some young girls from Trump's Mar-a-Lago. Focus on how often Trump was at the Wexner mansion in NYC for decades. Focus on Trump owning a "modeling agency" and the Miss Teen Universe........... He has FOREVER made attempts to be near young girls, esp if they resembled his daughter, Ivanka. I hope it will all come out.
I looked on Wikipedia and did find that Epstein taught in NYC in the 1970's. I KNEW that he had this sex ring of underage girls there and remember it clearly. Some more info on him: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_EpsteinI don’t think it’s a shiny object at all. If true, ALL of that matters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:51:21 GMT
We're looking at shiny object here. I'm not trying to distract from anything. People were mentioning others involved. I don't know the exact details of every encounter. I don't see how I'm supposed to know the age of people Prince Charles may or may not have had sex with.
Sorry--I know that. It's just that most people will immediately get wrapped in all of the "famous" people that have associated with Epstein. His whole life/career/supposed money, is very murky. Sound familiar? All I know for a fact is the connection that he & Trump have had for decades, and their predilection for very young girls, barely teens. I'd love for this to finally be investigated and done with. He'll probably turn out to be another phoney scam artist like Trump!!
Sorry if I offended you--no intent there; I'm just worried that people will focus on the side stories...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:54:10 GMT
I'm not trying to distract from anything. People were mentioning others involved. I don't know the exact details of every encounter. I agree. Yes, it’s very important if the POTUS was in any way involved. But this isn’t (only) about politics. This is about stopping it going forward and justice for what these girls/women endured. There were a lot of perpetrators that should be held responsible. For fixing whatever allowed him/them for getting away with this for so long to hopefully stop something similar from happening again. I agree, and this is NOT about politics at all (sans the large # of shady people ranging from police officers to D.A.'s, governors, etc., who have kept this under wraps for decades!!)!!!!!!!!! This is about a pedophile sex ring. If it could finally be proven to trace back to Epstein AND Trump, I'll be thrilled, because that's what I grew up knowing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:56:01 GMT
We're looking at shiny object here. I doubt that Prince Charles was involved with minors! Skip all of that (about Clinton, Prince Andrew, Prince Charles, etc............) and focus on the fact that Epstein got some young girls from Trump's Mar-a-Lago. Focus on how often Trump was at the Wexner mansion in NYC for decades. Focus on Trump owning a "modeling agency" and the Miss Teen Universe........... He has FOREVER made attempts to be near young girls, esp if they resembled his daughter, Ivanka. I hope it will all come out.
I looked on Wikipedia and did find that Epstein taught in NYC in the 1970's. I KNEW that he had this sex ring of underage girls there and remember it clearly. Some more info on him: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_EpsteinI don’t think it’s a shiny object at all. If true, ALL of that matters. I agree, partially. If anyone took part in being serviced or even in KNOWING about this sex ring and not following through on it, then they're guilty, but NOT as guilty as the ones running and creating this sex ring. That's what I meant. Sorry if it wasn't clear. My emotions are high right now!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:57:54 GMT
Anyone caught up in this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care who it is. "Caught up" as far as being serviced by a young girl in a sex slave ring? Sure! But I hold the ones who CREATED this sex ring, who paid for and threatened young women to go out and FIND these girls and lure them into this, MUCH more accountable, guilty and evil, IMO!!! THAT is what I'm focused on. The rest could follow.
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Post by trollie on Jul 7, 2019 22:41:24 GMT
Anyone caught up in this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care who it is. "Caught up" as far as being serviced by a young girl in a sex slave ring? Sure! But I hold the ones who CREATED this sex ring, who paid for and threatened young women to go out and FIND these girls and lure them into this, MUCH more accountable, guilty and evil, IMO!!! THAT is what I'm focused on. The rest could follow. Everyone's accountable and guilty. without the customers there would be no market for this shit.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 7, 2019 22:41:50 GMT
I don’t think it’s a shiny object at all. If true, ALL of that matters. I agree, partially. If anyone took part in being serviced or even in KNOWING about this sex ring and not following through on it, then they're guilty, but NOT as guilty as the ones running and creating this sex ring. That's what I meant. Sorry if it wasn't clear. My emotions are high right now! I understand! I disagree, though. For me, they’re all equally guilty. Without creators there is no ring, true - but without those who have an appetite for that there is no demand to create it in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 22:58:50 GMT
Good thread from a few months back:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 0:47:03 GMT
"Caught up" as far as being serviced by a young girl in a sex slave ring? Sure! But I hold the ones who CREATED this sex ring, who paid for and threatened young women to go out and FIND these girls and lure them into this, MUCH more accountable, guilty and evil, IMO!!! THAT is what I'm focused on. The rest could follow. Everyone's accountable and guilty. without the customers there would be no market for this shit. I agree to a certain extent. I think it began solely for their own pleasure and then both of them wanted to grease the palms of people in power (since they were both faux 'billionaires' and were merely conmen). Trump getting involved in the Teen Miss America (or Universe--whatever it was), was SOLELY for his own twisted pleasure. If they could make more $$ out of it and grease palms, they will. I DO find that disgusting.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2019 1:53:48 GMT
Ihad missed Barr said he MIGHT recuse if something came up about Epstein... Jeffrey Epstein Shouldn’t Expect to Wiggle Free AgainFeds in Florida cut an infamous sweetheart deal with the confessed billionaire sex predator. The ‘sovereign’ district of New York isn’t likely to do that. ****** Charges of federal sex trafficking carry mandatory minimums of 10-15 years on each count. Mandatory means mandatory. In other words, short of a cooperation agreement with the government—which in the SDNY famously means full cooperation against all possible other subjects and targets—Epstein will serve at least 10-15 years in prison (possibly more depending on the number of counts) if convicted. ********* Third, could Epstein cooperate and implicate other powerful men who were involved in this sex trafficking, both Republicans and Democrats? Yes—but the SDNY will not cooperate a child predator like Epstein easily (for good reason in my view). ********** Fourth, could Attorney General Bill Barr run interference on this case? Yes: he is the head of the whole Justice Department, even the “Sovereign” district as SDNY is sometimes playfully called. And, while it pains me to say this, given Barr’s conduct in the past acting more as a defense attorney for Trump than an overseer of justice, I am concerned that Barr might interfere if he thought that Epstein might implicate Trump, who was friends with Epstein. Barr did say in his confirmation hearings that he might recuse himself on overseeing matters with respect to Epstein because of his (Barr’s) affiliation with a law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, which was part of the Florida plea debacle. Now would be a good time to know if Barr followed through on that. ** www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-shouldnt-expect-to-wiggle-free-again-with-sdny-sex-trafficking-charges?ref=scroll
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2019 2:37:53 GMT
Fox is covering it... I don't know who the guy is but he thinks Sec Acosta may be leaving.............
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Post by PLurker on Jul 8, 2019 2:52:09 GMT
All this sh!t has both my head spinning and my stomach churning. So much vile. All the smarmy connections, elitist bullshit thinking it's fine to hurt others not of you and yours. While pretending to be "better" than everyone else when they're anything but. I "know" it goes on but it still baffles and sickens me when it starts to come to light and becomes more real. Obviously it needs a huge, bright light brought to it but it is hard to process. If true, the part in refugeepea 's post "Our actor had a preference for tweens who didn't speak English. He didn't want to hear anything they had to say." To want to protect your sad self from hearing their pleas while abusing someone is haunting me. It's like the awful cherry on top of unspeakable. Make them all go away. forever.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 8, 2019 2:57:23 GMT
Fox is covering it... I don't know who the guy is but he thinks Sec Acosta may be leaving.............
Did you notice when this aired? Was it today? Because Trump was hvpaving a tweet storm about Fox weekend reporting and Merge pointed out that she wondered what precipitated his going off.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 8, 2019 3:20:53 GMT
I believe this goes much, much deeper than most people realize. You know who also rubbed shoulders with Epstein, and spent time both on his private jet the Lolita Express, and on his island? Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and yes, Trump Sr. I think many crimes have been covered up for decades by the wealthy and well placed in society. maybe Bill & Trump can share a cell, since they have so much in common. About god damned time
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2019 3:45:46 GMT
Fox is covering it... I don't know who the guy is but he thinks Sec Acosta may be leaving.............
Did you notice when this aired? Was it today? Because Trump was hvpaving a tweet storm about Fox weekend reporting and Merge pointed out that she wondered what precipitated his going off. This is to the right of the video[/div] The guy original was on Dec 9, 2018 which shows on the upper left, but he talks before and after that date..... later when the others, man and woman, are on they say to first guy you were right........ Video won't load for me right now sorry............
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Post by PLurker on Jul 8, 2019 4:08:10 GMT
I believe this goes much, much deeper than most people realize. You know who also rubbed shoulders with Epstein, and spent time both on his private jet the Lolita Express, and on his island? Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and yes, Trump Sr. I think many crimes have been covered up for decades by the wealthy and well placed in society. maybe Bill & Trump can share a cell, since they have so much in common. About god damned time If indeed they do, I agree. Along with everyone else involved and guilty of this mess of evil. Heck, maybe they could all be stored in standing room only cages.
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Post by PLurker on Jul 8, 2019 6:44:46 GMT
Long threads, still reading but wanted to share. Damn.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 8, 2019 11:49:49 GMT
Anyone caught up in this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care who it is. Couldn't agree with this more.
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