sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Jul 12, 2019 15:20:31 GMT
Do you ever think about this? I made a bucket list/new year resolution to paint monthly with my mom. She has painted for YEARS, and has DOZENS of paintings stockpiled that I'll have to deal with when she leaves this planet. After I did ONE project that I had a specific plan for, I started thinking that I don't want to add to that stockpile of paintings.
But the idea is the same in a lot of creative crafts/art-- does thinking about usability or 'who will want this?' affect your hobby? Or do you just think "I want to paint poppies today! I don't have anywhere to hang the finished product, I don't know who might want it. My kids will have to deal with it when I'm gone!"
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Post by jenr on Jul 12, 2019 15:34:24 GMT
I think about this all the time with my scrapbooks. We don't have kids to pass them on to. But making them is an outlet for me, and I do like to look at them from time to time, so I keep doing it, and will continue to run out of space for them. Then I don't know what I'll do
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Post by myshelly on Jul 12, 2019 15:44:34 GMT
Sometimes it’s not about the finished product.
It’s about the process.
If painting brings her joy, who cares what eventually happens to the paintings?
People don’t think twice about spending 2.5 hours going to the movie at a cost of $25 and then throwing away the ticket stub. Why think twice when the activity is painting?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 12, 2019 15:50:25 GMT
Or do you just think "I want to paint poppies today! I don't have anywhere to hang the finished product, I don't know who might want it. My kids will have to deal with it when I'm gone!" We can't just stop doing things that we enjoy because of worries about what will happen to it after we are gone. I do my sewing and crafts for my enjoyment. What's left behind is for the others to deal with. Although now I am gifting more of my creations to unsuspecting family and friends as I get older. They come home to find a quilt in the mail sometimes! No complaints so far.
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sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Jul 12, 2019 15:51:35 GMT
Why think twice when the activity is painting? Because of what I just said. About creating stuff that no one wants. I get the joy of creating. I love it.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 12, 2019 15:52:25 GMT
Why think twice when the activity is painting? Because of what I just said. About creating stuff that no one wants. I get the joy of creating. I love it. But my point is *why* is it different? You can throw away a painting as easily as you can a movie stub.
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Post by PeachStatePea on Jul 12, 2019 15:53:23 GMT
This is why I quit doing some crafts and started knitting. I wanted a finished product that was useful. I love the relaxing process of knitting and when I'm done I have something pretty to wear - a hat, scarf or sweater. I keep most of my stuff but have given hats and shawls as gifts and everyone I gifted them to has seemed appreciative and wears them so it's a win win.
If you like to paint or quilt or draw or whatever, do it for the fun of it. When your mom passes, maybe let each grandchild choose any they want to keep as remembrance and throw away the rest.
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Post by lisae on Jul 12, 2019 15:53:34 GMT
I wish I thought about it less. With scrapbooking, I've always felt I was making the scrapbooks for Dh and me. His daughters might want a few pages or to pull out certain photos but I can't imagine them keeping all those books and that is fine.
When I was doing mixed media canvases, I made all I wanted for myself and then I made some to sell. A few sold but I did lose interest when I could not find homes for them. Even though I enjoyed the process I didn't want to make a canvas only to have to throw it out. Now I could use a couple of pieces in my house and can't seem to get myself back interested.
With quilting, I started do quilts for charities and that gave me somewhere for the items to go. It is a bit more limiting though. I wish I could let myself just make a wall quilt with no wall to put it on. Just do it for the enjoyment and the art.
For knitting, I make for myself only. I gave away so much stuff when I was younger that when I went back to it, I wanted to create for me. I'm probably making more things than I really need to wear but I don't care. Part of knitting is the social aspect of my knitting group and that makes it worth it even if I make something that doesn't end up getting worn all that much. I feel like I should be buying yarns from the yarn shop since I go there weekly for our group. It's like paying dues and I get something pretty in the end.
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Post by Loydene on Jul 12, 2019 15:54:05 GMT
We can't just stop doing things that we enjoy because of worries about what will happen to it after we are gone. I do my sewing and crafts for my enjoyment. What's left behind is for the others to deal with. Although now I am gifting more of my creations to unsuspecting family and friends as I get older. They come home to find a quilt in the mail sometimes! No complaints so far. Sometimes it’s not about the finished product. It’s about the process. If painting brings her joy, who cares what eventually happens to the paintings? People don’t think twice about spending 2.5 hours going to the movie at a cost of $25 and then throwing away the ticket stub. Why think twice when the activity is painting? I love that !! There are cutting file designs that I like and would love to construct - but those are usually 3D and I don't want the end product -- I just want the fun of the doing.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 12, 2019 15:55:41 GMT
My hobbies are all about the process, less about the outcome. I like to play with paper and scissors. When I’m gone, it won’t be very hard for DH or DS to junk everything in my craft space if they want to. I’m not going to live a minimalist life with no things because my things have no value for others.
Once someone is gone, they really aren’t here to care what happened to their stuff. It’s up to the living to decide if they want it. If you or your mom love to paint, do it. Life is too short to worry about The pictures taking up space.
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sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Jul 12, 2019 15:56:09 GMT
But my point is *why* is it different? You can throw away a painting as easily as you can a movie stub. Hmm... I buy all sorts of supplies, and create something that someone will have to deal with, which is usually much larger than a ticket stub. It will have sentimental value, probably eliciting some emotion from my kids when they go through my belongings after I die. VS a receipt for watching a movie. I guess there's a weak similarity in that the stub wouldn't have been printed if I hadn't seen the movie?
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Post by hop2 on Jul 12, 2019 15:58:01 GMT
Nope
I’ll be dead I do not care what they do with the stuff. I do my hobbies for me. For my sanity.
On the flip side I did have my own issues dealing mothers craft items I didn’t want but I did find places to donate all the finished items & the supplies. I do not know what happened after they were donated. I do not care. I understand that crafting can be therapeutic and boy oh boy did my mother need therapy so it’s ok to deal with the leftovers
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Post by katybee on Jul 12, 2019 15:58:47 GMT
Mine is even worse than scrapbooking. I junk journal. Nobody is going to want my junk journals! I don’t care. Being artistic is an essential activity in my life. It calms me down. It brings me joy. I don’t even look at the finished products very often. I figure my family is going to have to throw away my ratty underwear anyway. They can just throw the journals away when they do that.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 12, 2019 15:59:59 GMT
But my point is *why* is it different? You can throw away a painting as easily as you can a movie stub. Hmm... I buy all sorts of supplies, and create something that someone will have to deal with, which is usually much larger than a ticket stub. It will have sentimental value, probably eliciting some emotion from my kids when they go through my belongings after I die. VS a receipt for watching a movie. I guess there's a weak similarity in that the stub wouldn't have been printed if I hadn't seen the movie? I don’t attach all the emotion to things you do. Why leave it for someone else to deal with? You paint it, when you’re done with it, get rid of it. It doesn’t have to become a problem for your kids. It doesn’t have to have sentimentality attached to it. Maybe the reason we are having a hard time communicating is that, to me, it would be just as easy to throw away the painting as it would the receipt. The ticket stub represents something I did with 2.5 hours of my time and 25 of my dollars. Just like the painting is something I did with some of my time and some of my money.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 12, 2019 16:00:05 GMT
Do you ever think about this? I made a bucket list/new year resolution to paint monthly with my mom. She has painted for YEARS, and has DOZENS of paintings stockpiled that I'll have to deal with when she leaves this planet. After I did ONE project that I had a specific plan for, I started thinking that I don't want to add to that stockpile of paintings.
But the idea is the same in a lot of creative crafts/art-- does thinking about usability or 'who will want this?' affect your hobby? Or do you just think "I want to paint poppies today! I don't have anywhere to hang the finished product, I don't know who might want it. My kids will have to deal with it when I'm gone!"
for me, the answer is a resounding NO- since we don't have kids, all my crafting crap and scrapbooks will be dealt with by someone, someday, and I try not to think about it. If I do occasionally think about it, then I get hit with the 'what's the point' mentality... but for ME, the point is I like the creative outlet of scrapbooking right NOW. The future can NOT be a consideration, otherwise it weighs me down mentally. My mom embroiders, sews quilted projects, and cross-stitches; she's done all these things as long as I can remember (and I'm 50). She made a few x-stitched pieces that she got framed (framing x-stitching is freakin' EXPENSIVE!) and made a few pieces into pillows for the living room, but for years and years, the completed x-stitch projects went into a box in the linen closet. She would make comments occasionally that were like, "oh, you probably won't want them, but you guys can do whatever you want with these... keep them or toss them... I don't care..." (you know, the typical Lutheran, Midwestern Mom-guilt. ) A couple years ago, they started downsizing ALL their stuff (my mom is 80 and my dad is 89, and both have some health issues starting). For Christmas last year, she made each of us 4 kids a lap quilt with a variety of x-stitch pictures as the blocks; the sashing in between the various blocks matches the block designs. (i.e., a duck x-stitched design has sashing fabric that's leaves; a heart design block has sashing that matches the colors, etc.) My lap quilt includes some things that I remember her sewing when I was growing up, and also includes the very first thing I ever remember cross-stitching myself, when she taught me how to do it! I have it on the back of the couch in our living room. ---So, the short answer is: I do sometimes think about this, but I try not to. lol.
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Post by ladytrisha on Jul 12, 2019 16:02:04 GMT
like others, my hobby serves a need for me. I get to relive the memories, a trip or even a day thru scrapbooking. My son loves his Scouting books which makes me happy. Other books aren't opened by anyone so they'll probably get heaved when I'm gone.
That said, it still fulfills a need in me to not just sit (which I'm really good at) and actually create something. I get the monthly Graphic45 kits - most are outside my comfort zone and I end up with something I don't need. So I've decided to enjoy the process and then ask if anyone wants it. If not, it can be donated. I got the creating use out of it which is enough.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 12, 2019 16:03:52 GMT
I think about it sometimes with all my scrapbooks. But I've told my kids they can toss them when I'm dead if they want to.
But it is why I haven't taken up other hobbies. I've often thought it would be liberating to paint a huge canvas, and get all my emotions out through paint colors. But... I'm crafty, not artistic. I have no real talent and would just make piles of crap.
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Post by rickmer on Jul 12, 2019 16:05:39 GMT
my girlfriend is very crafty. she knits, paints, does quilt making (both useable and decorative), crochets christmas ornaments, makes home made gift bags out of extra fabric and sews little gift card wallets out of it as well. her kids don't really like any of it... youngest is 19 and eldest is 28 maybe. they laugh and say "no homemade gifts for christmas this year mom". i think she wishes they appreciates her stuff more but also doesn't take it personally. like myshelly said, she enjoys the process and her kids can do whatever they want with it when she is gone. it it were me that got left a paintings my mom made, i might keep one or two that i liked the best and the rest would go to value village. one person's trash is another's treasure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 16:06:41 GMT
I have worked hard to find sources to donate the things I like to craft. I get the benefit of spending time doing what I like and the charity gets the benefit of the donated item.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 12, 2019 16:08:26 GMT
I think with creative hobbies, we MAKE it different (in our heads, anyway) than going to a movie because we are 'creating something' that wasn't there before. We make something 'pretty' or 'useful'
The ticket stub is ephemera- it isn't *expected* to last, or be kept, or to have sentimental attachments associated with it. Unless you're a scrapbooker or a journaler, lol- and then WE are the ones who attach the sentimental meaning to it- the ticket stub doesn't have any meaning by itself. it's our *association* with it that gives it meaning.)
We imbue a hand-made item (whatever it is- a painting, a card, a scrapbook page, a sweater, etc.) with the feelings and an emotional attachment because "I made this with my own hands and my creativity" so it embodies something *MORE* for us than the thing itself (i.e., a hand-knitted scarf has more 'emotion' attached to it by the creator than a scarf just purchased from the store), if that makes sense. That, I think, is the difference between a painting and a ticket stub.
Not everyone feels that way about the things they create, of course... and part of it was also necessity / cost, back in the day. I think a lot of painters- Van Gogh, maybe, was one? painted OVER their canvases, or scraped the paint off and re-used the canvases because they had to- canvases were expensive, they wanted to paint, and to learn, so they re-used their supplies. We can just go to the art store and buy a whole pile of canvases if we want.
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Post by Trixie Bender on Jul 12, 2019 16:09:38 GMT
Paint the poppies. Then donate your painting to Goodwill. Your painting will get displayed and SHAZAM your painting in now hanging in a gallery.
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Post by peano on Jul 12, 2019 16:12:58 GMT
Fifty years from now, there may be people at a flea market like this fool last weekend, paying ridiculous amounts of money for paper ephemera and old fibers that people have discarded.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 12, 2019 16:17:37 GMT
sharlag I say this as kindly as possible. You shouldn’t live your life worrying that things that bring you joy (and hurt no one else) should be stifled because someone “might” have to make a decision on what to do with it when you’re gone. I don’t think your children would like knowing that you are doing this on their behalf. I’d be horrified to find out someone I love did it on my behalf. That’s much worse than feeling bad about throwing away the paintings after you’re gone.
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Post by ellen on Jul 12, 2019 16:20:08 GMT
I have bought craft items at garage or thrift stores. I bought 2 big framed Holly Hobbie needlepoint projects for $5 at the local salvation army. I painted the frames and hung them in my daughter's bedroom. They now hang in my classroom. My school kids think they are cute and women around my age mention how much they loved Holly Hobbie when they were a kid. I think that's a pretty good second life for a crafted item. The last time I hit garage sales I bought two beautiful granny square afghans - great colors. I crochet so I know it took an incredible amount of time and I don't have the patience to make something like that. I don't think they were ever used because they are in perfect condition. $5. They found their home. So I don't think anyone should feel guilty for getting rid of the crafted items left behind for them to deal with.
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Post by pilcas on Jul 12, 2019 16:21:32 GMT
I see my scrapbooking hobbie as I do my Netflix, my restaurant or movie outings, as entertainment. I don’t expect anybody to keep my card even if I spent a couple of hours coloring with my Copics. I did that for my entertainment. I personally never liked homemade gifts, scarves etc. so I don’t expect other people to see my crafts as something they want to keep. I don’t expect anyone to want my things when I’m gone, styles change, taste change, I’m fine with everything being disposed as my kids want.
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Post by KikiPea on Jul 12, 2019 16:31:41 GMT
I do enjoy those paint/wine places, and the board and brush places, but won’t do them anymore because I don’t want a mess of them, and I know no one will want them.
BUT, I couldn’t care less if anyone will want my scrapbooks that I make for myself. I scrap for my own pleasure and memories to look through. We don’t have kids, so they will most likely go in the garbage when I die, but I’m okay with that. It’s my hobby, and I honestly love it. It makes me happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 16:35:07 GMT
I had to toss a friend’sscrapbook Collection. It was not good. I would make sure your survivors know it is okay to get rid of such stuff.
Paintings? You can reuse canvases. Check the high schools they may want them just for that.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 12, 2019 16:37:07 GMT
This is why I enjoy decorating sugar cookies 😊
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 12, 2019 16:42:13 GMT
This is why I enjoy decorating sugar cookies 😊 hahaha!!! the title is 'making stuff no one wants...' which is, like lisacharlotte said, a not-very-nice way to look at it. YOU want to MAKE that craft item. THAT is what you (and all of us) should be focusing on. The PROCESS, just as MUCH, if not MORE, is what's important- not just the end result. Creating for the sake of being creative is not the same as making widgets (that will eventually be sold) on an assembly line.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jul 12, 2019 16:46:45 GMT
I have two thoughts about this subject.
1) I scrapbook for me. It makes me happy. I enjoy the creating process. I don't worry about what will happen after I am gone. If someone wants some or all of the pages in my scrapbooks, then wonderful. If not, toss or shred them.
2) In general: Handmade goods as gifts to others. Just because I or someone else loves the item(s) we create, others may not. Some love to receive homemade items. Some do not like receiving them. I think giving homemade wares as a gift should be a very selective process. If you know it will be appreciated, then give the homemade item. I hate to see someone waste money and time making something to give to someone, only to have that very items tossed in the trash at the first opportunity.
Not being rude, just honest.... I don't care to be the recipient of handmade items. I appreciate the creative process and the kindness and thoughtfulness behind gift giving, but if it's not an item I want...then I won't keep it. I am gracious and thank the gift giver, but that item is placed in the trash or donate pile.
Everyone's feelings about gift giving and receiving is different. Some think it's the heartfelt factor to give homemade. Some see a homemade gift as "too cheap to buy someone a real(store bought) gift. While one may have a stockpile of homemade goods that have been accumulated, giving the item(s) away as gifts, may not be well received by everyone.
Not being rude, just honest.....I'd rather have a $5.00 gift card to a restaurant or store I like, rather than be the recipient of someones stockpiled homemade goods, that would 99% of the time end up in the trash.
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