julie5
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Post by julie5 on Jul 12, 2019 18:15:02 GMT
I need some place to vent. I’m not even on the boosters board but I volunteer at as many events as possible. Our boosters raise a lot of money so our kids can have enjoyable experiences with band. This year band camp won’t be so difficult because the school is providing free lunches to all kids 2-18, and are extending that to our band kids. Used to, the boosters bought, prepared and served food for 250 kids twice a day for 5 days. Now we only have to assist the school staff that is being paid to work the cafeteria, just two helpers. And then assist with cleanup.
And uniform fittings as per usual for the 5 days. The more people who help, the faster it gets done.
Me and the same 5 parents who are at every function are on the sign up sheet. My kid is a senior this year as well as most of the other active parent volunteers. I’m so ready to clobber the freshman and sophomore parents who have NO CLUE how much they’ll be hurting next summer. I think our booster presidents kid is a senior too. They have no idea the amount of time and money the boosters put into this. The Disney trip was this spring. The kids go every 4 years so basically you get to go one time in your high school career. The boosters paid around $50k for the Moro coaches to get the kids down and back. And parents assume that their job is done now that their kid is done with Disney. Wrong. The boosters are now saving for the trip in 2023. They still need help. And the kids still have camp this summer and the directors still need our help with uniforms and we still have parades they need to be prepared for.
Sorry I’m a big fat grouch which is probably why I’m not on the board. Who else has a vent?
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 12, 2019 18:19:42 GMT
I worked in an elementary school and we had a small but great PTO. When the parents of the fifth graders left, there was always a big learning curve for the parents of the younger kids, but they jumped in and did their thing. Sometimes parents of younger kids are ready to bring new ideas, but they wait until the more established parents move on.
My family is out of town for the weekend. I have no complaints.
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Post by kelly8875 on Jul 12, 2019 18:26:56 GMT
Well, I wasn’t a band parent, but did plenty of volunteer work while my kids were in school. My attitude was usually, “okay, I’ll do it again, but you should help too because next year when I’m gone and you’re forced to step up, you’ll be in a hot mess of confusion”. And a couple events I heard were badly planned the following year....but not my problem! And once I was asked to help again, I could easily say “no” and not have guilt about it!
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Post by hop2 on Jul 12, 2019 18:34:36 GMT
I was a band parent - I volunteered all the way thru. But after mine graduated I didn’t worry that ‘the same 5 parents’ kids graduated with mine. Band was there before my kids & it will be there after.
I enjoyed my volunteer time, it was a good experience.
It’s always the same 5 people band/scouts/4h whatever it’s always just a few people stepping up. I hear your gripe. Your gripe is valid, for your school and thousands of others.
In hindsight, I feel sorry for the parents that don’t step up because I had such a good time & had such good experiences with the other volunteers & the kids. Those are things they’ll never have.
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Post by Loydene on Jul 12, 2019 19:10:49 GMT
The year before I was PTO President, the then President did a LOT of schlepping stuff for various PTO events. I always volunteered, but there was one event that was, seemingly, remarkable for its lack of participation. When I took the seat, I said up front that I was not taking on the stuff that the Past President had done with regard to this particular event -- and if there wasn't sufficient other participation then it wouldn't be held. It wasn't held. I don't know what happened the year after - that was my kid's Sr. Year and we were "outta there".
The point is sometimes events become entrenched beyond their time.
Not suggesting that OP's events of uniform fitting or otherwise fall into that criterion. But possibly some of the other stuff does. And it will be "on those who come behind" to make that decision.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 12, 2019 19:11:35 GMT
Same thing with sports teams. The senior parents for the class of 2019 were always the ones doing things and sending things. Some of us have sophomore this coming year, so we will continue, but the years in between sucked at it. I refused this year to fill in the blanks.
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julie5
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Post by julie5 on Jul 12, 2019 19:24:35 GMT
The year before I was PTO President, the then President did a LOT of schlepping stuff for various PTO events. I always volunteered, but there was one event that was, seemingly, remarkable for its lack of participation. When I took the seat, I said up front that I was not taking on the stuff that the Past President had done with regard to this particular event -- and if there wasn't sufficient other participation then it wouldn't be held. It wasn't held. I don't know what happened the year after - that was my kid's Sr. Year and we were "outta there". The point is sometimes events become entrenched beyond their time. Not suggesting that OP's events of uniform fitting or otherwise fall into that criterion. But possibly some of the other stuff does. And it will be "on those who come behind" to make that decision. This actually brings up another issue that I feel might fit your criteria. In 2018 we had a full pitch in mealfor the end of year awards banquet. It was RIDICULOYS how long this thing went and how late we were there washing dishes after. And I barely got any food. I felt like just give the kids their awards, cut out the food so we can get home. My kid was up until 1 am trying to do her homework. So this year it was a dessert only banquet and the director made a big speech about someone complaining last year (and it quite possibly could have been me!) and he felt like that was so rude so this year we were being punished with the dessert only since someone was so ungrateful. It really rubbed me the wrong way and I think I’m pretty over the band. I’m limiting my volunteering this year because I’m tired or trying to be a good helper and my attitude stinks. Last fall we had our mum sale. I was there with the select few for about 12 hours in 100+ heat. I’m not doing that again. I think at some point it would be prudent to appoint people to help out but I’m not in charge. So all I can do is just worry about myself.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jul 12, 2019 19:33:29 GMT
I think this is pretty much the way it always happens. It's unfortunate for the kids but I think most of the time it ends up working out (just probably not as good as if the parents had stepped up as freshman parents and learned from the more seasoned volunteers).
My vent is that we still don't have a school schedule for this coming year. We always start the day after Labor Day so I assume that won't change but I have no idea if we'll have any 3 day weekends, when breaks start, when the last day of school is....nothing! Very difficult to plan anything.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 12, 2019 20:22:54 GMT
I'll validate you, but assure you that the band will go on. It's the director's problem next year and not yours (fortunately). I found it frustrating that parents wouldn't help out, but what can you do?
I was the parent coordinator (basically booster president, but we couldn't legally have a booster club) for our HS theatre for several years. I was a co my first year, then I headed it for 2 more years alone. I kept the programs that were important to my DD going and when she graduated, I let it go. At the last play so many kept coming up to me asking what was going to happen for the next year. I just said that it will be different, but it will be ok. And it was. The director left the following year and everyone was wringing their hands. But the new director actually began several new programs that I'd been trying to get going for years. So it will all be ok.
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Post by coloradocropper on Jul 12, 2019 20:53:02 GMT
I was a band parent - I volunteered all the way thru. But after mine graduated I didn’t worry that ‘the same 5 parents’ kids graduated with mine. Band was there before my kids & it will be there after. I enjoyed my volunteer time, it was a good experience. It’s always the same 5 people band/scouts/4h whatever it’s always just a few people stepping up. I hear your gripe. Your gripe is valid, for your school and thousands of others. In hindsight, I feel sorry for the parents that don’t step up because I had such a good time & had such good experiences with the other volunteers & the kids. Those are things they’ll never have.Yep, 100% to this. We have a great band program and it's the same people who always volunteer. We are looking into a pre band camp social to try and get those freshmen parents involved. I may even host it! Right now, my dining room table is covered with the material to cover some band props. I've been sewing hours every day but I know that my daughter appreciates that my husband (he's the pit boss) and I are so involved. I will never get these years back with her (or her 3 older brothers) and that makes it all worth it.
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Post by elaine on Jul 12, 2019 21:00:53 GMT
The year before I was PTO President, the then President did a LOT of schlepping stuff for various PTO events. I always volunteered, but there was one event that was, seemingly, remarkable for its lack of participation. When I took the seat, I said up front that I was not taking on the stuff that the Past President had done with regard to this particular event -- and if there wasn't sufficient other participation then it wouldn't be held. It wasn't held. I don't know what happened the year after - that was my kid's Sr. Year and we were "outta there". The point is sometimes events become entrenched beyond their time. Not suggesting that OP's events of uniform fitting or otherwise fall into that criterion. But possibly some of the other stuff does. And it will be "on those who come behind" to make that decision. This actually brings up another issue that I feel might fit your criteria. In 2018 we had a full pitch in mealfor the end of year awards banquet. It was RIDICULOYS how long this thing went and how late we were there washing dishes after. And I barely got any food. I felt like just give the kids their awards, cut out the food so we can get home. My kid was up until 1 am trying to do her homework. So this year it was a dessert only banquet and the director made a big speech about someone complaining last year (and it quite possibly could have been me!) and he felt like that was so rude so this year we were being punished with the dessert only since someone was so ungrateful. It really rubbed me the wrong way and I think I’m pretty over the band. I’m limiting my volunteering this year because I’m tired or trying to be a good helper and my attitude stinks. Last fall we had our mum sale. I was there with the select few for about 12 hours in 100+ heat. I’m not doing that again. I think at some point it would be prudent to appoint people to help out but I’m not in charge. So all I can do is just worry about myself. But I’m betting everyone except maybe the director was perfectly happy with a dessert-only banquet. Good for you for speaking up. You did everyone a favor and I think that in the long run you will do everyone a favor if you do cut back your hours and force other parents to step up so that there will be others with experience when your kid graduates.
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Post by sharlag on Jul 12, 2019 21:01:02 GMT
When my kids were in band, and there was an event, I felt like I had to hunt for the right person to ask, and then practically BEG to volunteer. It felt like a tight clique of a few people who knew each other, perhaps bonded by their martyrdom.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 12, 2019 21:02:36 GMT
I was a band parent - I volunteered all the way thru. But after mine graduated I didn’t worry that ‘the same 5 parents’ kids graduated with mine. Band was there before my kids & it will be there after. I enjoyed my volunteer time, it was a good experience. It’s always the same 5 people band/scouts/4h whatever it’s always just a few people stepping up. I hear your gripe. Your gripe is valid, for your school and thousands of others. In hindsight, I feel sorry for the parents that don’t step up because I had such a good time & had such good experiences with the other volunteers & the kids. Those are things they’ll never have.Yep, 100% to this. We have a great band program and it's the same people who always volunteer. We are looking into a pre band camp social to try and get those freshmen parents involved. I may even host it! Right now, my dining room table is covered with the material to cover some band props. I've been sewing hours every day but I know that my daughter appreciates that my husband (he's the pit boss) and I are so involved. I will never get these years back with her (or her 3 older brothers) and that makes it all worth it. Of all the things I’ve done pit crew was my favorite. I noticed this year in the winter band videos that they now have a student pit crew - which is the only answer when parents won’t step up. Then all you need is 1 adult who knows how to pack the truck & can drive it. ( well & the teachers ) I was sad but then I figured this was an awesome opportunity for those kids to be a part of a team if they can’t/don’t want to play.
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Post by 2marbles on Jul 12, 2019 21:10:12 GMT
I was a band parent - I volunteered all the way thru. But after mine graduated I didn’t worry that ‘the same 5 parents’ kids graduated with mine. Band was there before my kids & it will be there after. I enjoyed my volunteer time, it was a good experience. It’s always the same 5 people band/scouts/4h whatever it’s always just a few people stepping up. I hear your gripe. Your gripe is valid, for your school and thousands of others. In hindsight, I feel sorry for the parents that don’t step up because I had such a good time & had such good experiences with the other volunteers & the kids. Those are things they’ll never have.Yep, 100% to this. We have a great band program and it's the same people who always volunteer. We are looking into a pre band camp social to try and get those freshmen parents involved. I may even host it! Right now, my dining room table is covered with the material to cover some band props. I've been sewing hours every day but I know that my daughter appreciates that my husband (he's the pit boss) and I are so involved. I will never get these years back with her (or her 3 older brothers) and that makes it all worth it. Completely agree....my other two kids didn't do band, but were in cheer...I was a seasoned vet by then. But the cheer coach was crazy.....and unreasonable, and unorganized. I could go on and on....we gave her a chance because her mom had been our former fantastic cheer coach, but she passed away from cancer. Loved that lady....but it was time for me to be done. I had done six years in elementary/jr. high volunteering, three years HS band, and four for jr. high/sr. high cheer...gave up my summer to do car washes almost every weekend, which was my choice...I didn't need a medal or anything, I was doing it so my kid would have a blast. But I was a little put out as the lady that only washed the uniforms and fitted them (and I did that too!) got a thank you gift. This is my youngest's senior year...she is in art...not cheer anymore and I'm secretly thrilled. Because its the same people over and over....
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 12, 2019 21:20:38 GMT
I was a band parent - I volunteered all the way thru. But after mine graduated I didn’t worry that ‘the same 5 parents’ kids graduated with mine. Band was there before my kids & it will be there after. I enjoyed my volunteer time, it was a good experience. It’s always the same 5 people band/scouts/4h whatever it’s always just a few people stepping up. I hear your gripe. Your gripe is valid, for your school and thousands of others. In hindsight, I feel sorry for the parents that don’t step up because I had such a good time & had such good experiences with the other volunteers & the kids. Those are things they’ll never have.This, a thousand times, this! I have one son and he was in high school band all through high school. Best.experience.of.his.life! He went to Hawaii twice, Europe with the Ambassadors of Music program, Disneyland 4 times, Portland Rose Festival, etc. Made life long friends as did DH and I. I chaperoned every event for 4 years, was on the board for 3 years and Booster's President his senior year. Now the school isn't doing near the trips we took because so many parents think that band is *just* a class. One of the saddest moments was when one kid confided to me that his parents had never seen him play with the band. I can't fathom that. One of the proudest moments of my life was at the senior banquet when I was named *Mom Away From Home*. OP, I hear what you're saying but it happens in all phases of life.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 12, 2019 23:35:21 GMT
My gripe for this afternoon was there were more little kids running around in the nail salon today than there were paying adults. There were between 8-10 little kids (3-8ish in age) that seemed to have created a hostage situation in the nail salon. If your kid can't sit and entertain him/herself at a place where you can't get up and correct your child, maybe find another place for them. I was entertained by the ruckus for about five minutes and then realized that it was going to last the entire time I was there. Moms were getting both pedicures and manicures.
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Post by trollie on Jul 13, 2019 1:58:16 GMT
The year before I was PTO President, the then President did a LOT of schlepping stuff for various PTO events. I always volunteered, but there was one event that was, seemingly, remarkable for its lack of participation. When I took the seat, I said up front that I was not taking on the stuff that the Past President had done with regard to this particular event -- and if there wasn't sufficient other participation then it wouldn't be held. It wasn't held. I don't know what happened the year after - that was my kid's Sr. Year and we were "outta there". The point is sometimes events become entrenched beyond their time. Not suggesting that OP's events of uniform fitting or otherwise fall into that criterion. But possibly some of the other stuff does. And it will be "on those who come behind" to make that decision. This actually brings up another issue that I feel might fit your criteria. In 2018 we had a full pitch in mealfor the end of year awards banquet. It was RIDICULOYS how long this thing went and how late we were there washing dishes after. And I barely got any food. I felt like just give the kids their awards, cut out the food so we can get home. My kid was up until 1 am trying to do her homework. So this year it was a dessert only banquet and the director made a big speech about someone complaining last year (and it quite possibly could have been me!) and he felt like that was so rude so this year we were being punished with the dessert only since someone was so ungrateful. It really rubbed me the wrong way and I think I’m pretty over the band. I’m limiting my volunteering this year because I’m tired or trying to be a good helper and my attitude stinks. Last fall we had our mum sale. I was there with the select few for about 12 hours in 100+ heat. I’m not doing that again. I think at some point it would be prudent to appoint people to help out but I’m not in charge. So all I can do is just worry about myself. I would LOVE a dessert only banquet. GENIUS!!
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Post by Miss Cleo on Jul 13, 2019 2:24:26 GMT
I’m amazed your band camp is 5 days. Lol
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Jul 13, 2019 2:42:18 GMT
The other parents will either step up or they won't! Just worry about doing your part for your kid and be glad it's your last year. Ask yourself a few yrs from now will it matter nope LOL
So glad I'm done with all that crap and parents.
I wish my husband would get it thru his pea brain that I will never have anything to do with his mom.
She invited us out for dinner and our GD is visiting and he asked if I'd like to go for dinner.
I said nope as I have told you several times since Spencer was sick and she treated me so awful I will never waste another second of my life being in her company. She wanted to see our GD which would be her GGD and I said absolutely not in the 9 yrs since shes been born she has never made any effort to have a relationship with her and I'm certainly not going to let her try now.
He said well I just thought you may want to uh no just like I didnt want to spend my fucking Mother's day dinner with her.
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Post by mlana on Jul 13, 2019 3:19:46 GMT
@julie5 I went thru this with a group my DD belonged to. There were some parents who worked themselves to the point of heatstroke for our club and some who thought we should be GRATEFUL they bothered to get up early enough to drop their kids off for the day’s event. These latter parents were the first to scream when their kids didn’t receive a scholarship or get work credits for a group cleanup day. I had to explain often, usually to the same people, that the person who established the scholarship had asked it go to athletes whose whole family supported the club with their sweat equity. Their kid didn’t get work credits because when the work started, their kid was nowhere to be found. The kid signed in and took off, coming back at the end of the day. We had called the parents to find out where the kid was, but they had turned their phones off when they went back to bed.
I will admit that I really enjoyed the look on their faces when they demanded to know who the anonymous donor of the scholarship was as they were going to set him straight as to how his decision had hurt their family and how he needed to reconsider and be more thoughtful. Informing them that he was a she and she was not at all impressed with their bellyaching, then waiting for them to realize who it was, was definitely worth every penny I had spent setting up that travel scholarship. LOL
My vent is company’s that say they have an offer pending for you...and then drag it out for weeks. DH was told after his 3rd interview that they intended to make an offer to him. The recruiter calls every couple of days to make sure he is still available and swears they’re just finishing up the paperwork. This has gone on for a month and still no official offer. DH has continued to work and go to other interviews, but this is just irritating.
Marcy
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Post by maryland on Jul 13, 2019 11:35:06 GMT
It's probably that way at our band camp too. But you have to have 3 clearances to volunteer in our district, so most parents can't volunteer. Most don't want to have to pay the fee for all the clearances just to volunteer. So we don't have a high number of volunteers as we used too. So the few with clearances are the ones that volunteer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 12:08:31 GMT
When my kids were in band, and there was an event, I felt like I had to hunt for the right person to ask, and then practically BEG to volunteer. It felt like a tight clique of a few people who knew each other, perhaps bonded by their martyrdom. This! OMG! I volunteered multiple times to be the “med mom” for two band trips. I was completely ignored because I wasn’t in the “clique.” I had 20-something years as a nurse, 10 of those in critical care. They picked a random mom and low and behold, meds got screwed up and people weren’t getting them on time. Second instance is my girlfriend and I “inherited” the ticket chairmanship of our home show. The director was aware as was his administrative person and we were not told that we couldn’t do it. We had all of the materials in our possession and were looking forward to it. Field band season starts and there is a call out for volunteers for the ticket chairmanship. My friend and I were like WTF and sent multiple e-mails and texts to the powers that be. We were completely ignored and it went to 2 rookie parents who had no clue what they were doing. Lesson learned. My DD is no longer in band and I couldn’t be happier. Apparently there is a lot going on that isn’t being talked about and they are supposed to go the Rose Parade this New Year’s Day. I know that a few kids have dropped out due to the politics and favoritism and it breaks my heart for them. Oh. The speech at the banquet by the director that was posted up thread is something I could totally see our director doing. He has scolded all of us more than once via e-mail. It’s just too bad because band can be such a great thing.
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Post by TankTop on Jul 13, 2019 12:56:28 GMT
Never a band parent, but I can see how that would be super annoying.
My petty vent...
It pisses me off to no end when someone (dh) sets an alarm on a Saturday but does not wake up to it. He turns it off and rolls right back over and goes to sleep.
Fine, sleep. I could care less, but you could have done that without waking me up with a pointless alarm. He knows once I am awake I am awake.
In our earlier years I was so annoyed by this I would tell him that I was counting to 20 and if he wasn’t out of bed I was going to hit him in the balls. Of course this never happened since we were newly weds and as soon as I went anywhere near said balls all hell broke loose in the most wonderful of ways. 😂
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Post by lurkyloo on Jul 13, 2019 13:24:11 GMT
I had to explain often, usually to the same people, that the person who established the scholarship had asked it go to athletes whose whole family supported the club with their sweat equity. Their kid didn’t get work credits because when the work started, their kid was nowhere to be found. The kid signed in and took off, coming back at the end of the day. We had called the parents to find out where the kid was, but they had turned their phones off when they went back to bed. I will admit that I really enjoyed the look on their faces when they demanded to know who the anonymous donor of the scholarship was as they were going to set him straight as to how his decision had hurt their family and how he needed to reconsider and be more thoughtful. Informing them that he was a she and she was not at all impressed with their bellyaching, then waiting for them to realize who it was, was definitely worth every penny I had spent setting up that travel scholarship. LOL This is some ingenious next level long game trolling and I am soundly impressed!
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jul 13, 2019 17:08:39 GMT
Band will consume MY life starting Monday and ending next May. This semester, I will spend weekdays making sure the concession stand is staffed and chaperones are arranged for home games. For away games and contests, we need bus chaperones. For both, we need field help, but I don’t know how much yet. And, I’ll work all except one event in some capacity. We have minimum volunteer requirements, but it is still takes a lot of begging, and the board does more than their share. Thank goodness for those reliable, consistent parents!
I will complain about how busy I am, but I will also love being there with DD. It is worth the hassle. More so because we have a young, excited director who communicates well, encourages participation, and is grateful for the help.
I’ve asked this before, but do any of your band boosters do a great job with parent volunteer schedules? I need something cheap and electronic where parents can select spots, I can assign to those who don’t volunteer, parents can change their own sign-ups, reminders are sent, there is a self-check-in mechanism, and some type of reporting or export. The more I look, the more resigned I get to a combo of signup genius or something like that with spreadsheets. BUT, while that will be manageable to me, it won’t be easy to pass along next year.
ETA: We break for lunch rather than try to feed the kids during band camp. What a nightmare! DD won’t get her license until after camp, so it may take extra running around for me, but that’s better than trying to coordinate meals!
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Post by stingfan on Jul 13, 2019 17:14:39 GMT
Our band directors are currently begging for men to chaperone band camp overnight. (It's 5 days, 4 nights.) If they don't get enough, they won't be able to have sleep-away camp. They'll have to do it at the school. We have a daughter, so we don't feel too obligated to send dh out there to watch other people's sons. Dd wants to cancel the sleep-away part anyway.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jul 13, 2019 17:20:19 GMT
Our band directors are currently begging for men to chaperone band camp overnight. (It's 5 days, 4 nights.) If they don't get enough, they won't be able to have sleep-away camp. They'll have to do it at the school. We have a daughter, so we don't feel too obligated to send dh out there to watch other people's sons. Dd wants to cancel the sleep-away part anyway. I’m glad ours is at the school! Sleep away band camp is very movie-ish. lol
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