PLurker
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Post by PLurker on Jul 16, 2019 14:53:47 GMT
I'll take passionate, even curse (gasp!) words condemning injustices over politely sounding, "civil" words supporting or ignoring injustices any and every day of the week.
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Post by busy on Jul 16, 2019 14:54:21 GMT
that's all that can happen on this board anymore if anyone tries to present a different point of view from what is the general view here now. I truly don't understand how anyone can believe it's simply a "different point of view" to tolerate racism, sexism, ableism, and so on. A different point of view is whether the government should provide healthcare or not. How much we should fund national defense. Whether school vouchers are a good idea or not. Trump's party is a party of hate, exclusion and cruelty. That's not a "different point of view" - there is only one right response to words and behaviors like that and it's to fight against it.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 16, 2019 14:54:26 GMT
Playing nicely while protecting white supremacy and hate doesn't earn you any Heaven points. Good luck. The longer things drag on and the more this administration moves towards cruelty on an unbelievable scale, the more I think that the only thing that will change minds is a boy in the striped pajamas moment. For those of you who haven't seen the movie, sorry...there will be spoilers. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you watch it even if I ruin it for you. The entire movie, the Nazi father was able to go to work and send men, women and children to their deaths. These were people, but he didn't see them as people. They were a task to accomplish. It didn't bother him one bit to send them into the gas chambers. Seeing the bodies removed wasn't disturbing, it was just a by-product of "the job." They simply weren't human beings to him. Until one day when his son went missing. It turns out that the son had made friends with a little boy on the other side of the fence, and the son had found a way to get some striped pajamas so he could sneak into the camp and play with his new friend. Only today happened to be the day when his friend was sent to the gas chambers. It was only at the point when the dad realized that HIS son was now in the gas chamber that it hit him - these were all people. Until Trump supporters start seeing THEIR friends and THEIR family members and THEIR colleagues treated this way, it's not going to bother them. Out of sight, out of mind. Those kids in the camps aren't really kids - they're illegal kids. Those camps aren't really that bad - why, they're just like the camps our own servicemen and women live in during war! Those families being separated aren't really families like my own - they are somehow bad, and they deserve what's coming to them. They'll get over it - and besides, it had to be done to protect our country and our way of life! The problem is that you may think you're safe - but you aren't. The list may start with Mexicans and other brown people, but that's never where it ends. It may start with illegal immigrants, but that's not where it ends. Already, legal citizens have been swept up in the arrests and deportations. Some of them have been veterans of the US military - so if a legal citizen who is a veteran isn't safe, who is? You're only safe until it's your turn to become the enemy of the people. It wasn't just the Jews who were exterminated. It was the communists, the Poles, the homosexuals, the Roma, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the disabled, the political enemies. Instead of deciding that you and your family are safe and you don't need to worry because it's only "those evil illegals" being rounded up - figure out which list you and your loved ones are on. Then ask yourself if you really feel safe.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2019 15:07:04 GMT
Trump doesn’t care about the welfare of any life that isn’t white or male. Women only have value if they are white, straight, and physically attractive to him. Those that continue support him may be anti-abortion, but they certainly are not “pro-life.” I refuse to believe anyone who continues to support him and justifies their vote with the “pro-life” spiel. 1- his daughter!
2- the pro-life believers are far and few between! They are pro-birth. They care nothing about the welfare and safety of babies and children, whether our children or immigrants's children!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2019 15:17:35 GMT
The problem is that you may think you're safe - but you aren't. The list may start with Mexicans and other brown people, but that's never where it ends. It may start with illegal immigrants, but that's not where it ends. Already, legal citizens have been swept up in the arrests and deportations. Some of them have been veterans of the US military - so if a legal citizen who is a veteran isn't safe, who is? You're only safe until it's your turn to become the enemy of the people. It wasn't just the Jews who were exterminated. It was the communists, the Poles, the homosexuals, the Roma, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the disabled, the political enemies. Instead of deciding that you and your family are safe and you don't need to worry because it's only "those evil illegals" being rounded up - figure out which list you and your loved ones are on. Then ask yourself if you really feel safe. I have been saying this, not as well as you have. Their guns will be gone, their money will be gone and when he is tired of them, they will be gone! You displease him, you are gone, look at his staff that is gone....
His love match, Kim Jong Un ordered his own brother killed as well as an uncle or 2....... Do they all think they will be safe?!?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:26:33 GMT
One of the peas here who continues to be the most outspoken in her support of Trump has severely disabled nieces. They will/would be amongst the first cleansed/killed under a White Supremacist regime. That she cares more about somehow proving her vote was “right” than how her own family is viewed by the Neo-Nazis Trump supports makes me ill. There is nothing pro-life about Trump and his administration, unless you are white, have a penis, and like sexually assaulting underage girls. Yay! All of you who support that scum. May it be your daughters, and not someone else’s, next. Typical liberal bullshit! How much of your income or your government income should I say do you give the little illegals? Let them come live in your house! And the crazy troll comes out of from under the rocks! And (not so) ironically, spewing the echo chamber, tow the line conservative propaganda bullshit! The Republicans trolls never disappoint!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by lucyg on Jul 16, 2019 15:28:20 GMT
Look, I have been on this (and the old forum for years). MANY of you here have known me for a long, long time and I stand by who I have been from my first day on this forum. I have never been rude to any of you although many of you cannot say the same back to me. Some of you used to be pretty good friends with me, but the very fact that I maintain my conservative standards and do not see things the way you are absolutely determined they are has made me persona non grata with you. So be it. I'm sorry. I have liked many of you very much and have been sad to see the end of the friendships. But I'm not going to get into a mudslinging contest anyone and that's all that can happen on this board anymore if anyone tries to present a different point of view from what is the general view here now. Elaine, you were one of the ones that I felt the worst about losing friendship with. I liked you much better on the old board than I did many of my conservative cohorts. Trump has ruined that friendship I guess. I want to say I expected a far more nasty response from you tonight than I got and I thank you so much for it. You sounded like my old Elaine in your response. I am sorry if I misunderstood you and I appreciate your explanation. I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you for the measured reply. I do care about you and worry about you. G'nite all. This (national) conversation has little to do with maintaining your conservative standards. The air waves are full of well-known conservatives who maintain their conservatism while rejecting Trump. Perhaps they don’t show up on Fox News, but they are everywhere else, in print, on air, on social media. When have you ever before seen hordes of loyal party members revolt over the utter unfitness of their party’s leader? That right there should tell you you’re on the wrong side of history here. Donald Trump is just baby steps away from outright fascism already, and people who cloak their support for him as “conservative values” are pushing him more in that direction, not pulling him back from the edge. It would be nice to see you step up and speak out in defense of longtime American values such as justice, equality, and opportunity for all, rather than worrying about a pea who said something that hurt your feelings, but I don’t guess that’s going to happen. When he starts ignoring court orders, arresting journalists, hiding immigrant children at Gitmo where we won’t be able to see what’s actually happening to them ... when he loses the election and refuses to concede, because that is the direction in which we’re headed ... what exactly is it going to take to make you admit he is destroying America? By then it will be too late, anyway. I guess I will hope it’s not your children who will suffer, since that seems to matter to you so much. It will most certainly be mine.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:29:09 GMT
Ding ding ding! One of the 25 has chimed in. At least I now know that the bat phone is ringing and the rest will read this. I have been really busy taking your “privileged” money for the rentals here at the beach. You would think y’all could give up a vacation at the beach to help the little illegals. And a troll who is the classic epitome of hateful. God help any child you come in contact with, given your hateful and deplorable view upon children.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 16, 2019 15:29:36 GMT
I have been saying this, not as well as you have. Their guns will be gone, their money will be gone and when he is tired of them, they will be gone! You displease him, you are gone, look at his staff that is gone.... Another crazy thing...you know who gets rounded up fairly soon whenever there is an authoritarian regime? The teachers. How many peas are teachers?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:31:31 GMT
WTAF is going on in this thread? One if the most vile and hateful trump apologists came out from under the rocks she lives under to share her “wisdom” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:39:02 GMT
Don’t fool yourselves. Jesus is crying for all those who support Trump after the past two days’ tweets and press conference. If you you find yourself or your children or your family on the chopping block, or in the gas chamber, or mown down by an asshole in a Dodge Charger, because you don’t meet the White Male Supremacist’ ideal and you haven’t spoken out, you have no one to blame but yourselves. We know who some of the 25 who responded to the 4th of July Festivities poll are. They and the rest of you are typical White Supremacist lily-livered cowards. I hope it is your children and not mine who suffer what you have wrought. And I will pray for that. Elaine, I truly hope you are going to come back and apologize for this post. Because you have now gone far further than any other Pea that I can remember in wishing horror on children of other Peas. Even Lauren only wished bad things for ONE Pea's child and she apologized and that Pea and she are now friends. But you have wished suffering on any the children of any Pea who doesn't see Trump the same way you do....you state you are even praying for that! And I am stunned at the names of some of you who have "liked" this post. REALLY?? It is time that someone stood up and called you out for this type of rhetoric. This is beyond awful. I truly hope that some of your liberals will stand with me and call this the hate speech that it is! And just so you know.....there is no bat phone. Carly is not a member of the group that meets elsewhere. You won't believe it, but there is no hateful discussions there about any liberal on this list. There is just controlled discussion on world events. But no bat phone. The reason I saw this is because I (unlike most of the members of the conservative group you reference) never left this list. I saw your thread title, and opened it because it was so inflammatory. Again, liberals, do you support and pray for the suffering of the children of Americans who don't see things the way you do? If not, I hope at least some of you will have the courage to stand against this awful thread of Elaine's Seriously WTF is the deal with Republicans/conservatives (from pealand up to the WH) demanding that democrats/liberals apologize for their thoughts??? Republicans don’t seem to have to, instead they double down on their hatefulness. Nope. You are (once again) so dripping with condescension snowsilver—you do it often. Just because many don’t agree with the immoral and despicable things that trump, GOP, conservatives, republicans are dishing out and destroying for many does not make our viewpoints any less important or valid. Republicans and conservatives DO NOT have ANY of the moral high ground on this topic. And you will not bulky any of us liberals into believing that our voices need to apologize when we are standing up for morals, values, issues that the republicans are trashing and hurting.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jul 16, 2019 15:39:36 GMT
Here’s where I stand with my “conservative friends who don’t support Donald Trump.”
IF YOU’RE NOT AGAINST HIM, YOU’RE WITH HIM.
I’m not asking you to put on a pink pussy hat and protest in front of your state house.
I’m not asking you to join the ACLU or donate to AOC’s campaign.
I’m not asking you to change your core beliefs (UNLESS they are racist, cruel or infringe upon basic human rights).
But I am asking you to have COURAGE and stand against the HORRIFIC positions of Donald Trump. You can do that and STILL be a conservative.
Let me help you....
“I believe we need a much stronger immigration policy, but I DO NOT SUPPORT the separating of families or the incarceration of refugees (adults or children) in overcrowded cages. I believe any one held in ANY country for ANY reason should be afforded basic human rights—like enough room to lay down and sleep—even if it’s on the floor.”
“I do not support the far-left views of AOC and three other congresswomen recently attacked by Donald Trump. But they are United States Citizens and should never have been told to go back where they came from. I do not support racial discrimination in any form.”
“I support Donald Trump’s right to appoint the people he chooses as cabinet members, judges and heads of departments, and I hope he chooses people with conservative views like mine. But I WILL NOT support racists, sexual predators or outright crooks. Period.”
“I am open to the idea of talks with foreign heads of state, but the president should NOT embrace regimes that not only deny basic human rights, but torture and murder those who speak against them.”
And here’s the big one. It’s not enough to SAY you don’t support Donald Trump. You have a chance, RIGHT NOW, to show you don’t support him by supporting someone ELSE for president. Say it with me:
“There are MANY, MANY honest, intelligent and compassionate conservatives out there and I am ACTIVELY supporting one to run against Donald Trump for president. If I really care about the issues that are important to me, I will understand that Donald Trump is actually doing more harm than good. I want a president that will buckle down and get to work passing laws and creating policies I believe in, rather than CONSTANTLY being involved in outrageous scandals that are doing nothing but distracting from the work that needs to be done. I understand that most of the “bold” measures the president is taking are unconstitutional and likely to be overturned, and I would rather have a president that is willing to DO THE DIFFICULT WORK IT TAKES to change things the right (and lasting) way.”
It’s REALLY NOT HARD. You CAN maintain your conservative views and human decency at the same time. Trust me—the above statements IN NO WAY make you even close to a liberal or socialist. But your SILENCE says everything. If you are not LOUDLY against him—you are with him. And that says it all...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:43:11 GMT
$775/day is more than 5x my salary. Certainly could afford a tooth brush & soap for that. Hell a room at the holiday inn is only $175/ night & comes with toothbrush & soap that leaves $600 more for food/clothing legal fees etc Where the hell is all this money going? To trump’s business associates who he farms out these contracts for holding the migrants. It was noted a few years ago that some of trump’s real estate buds/business associates were shopping property and buildings to house prisons since trump had been speaking if privatization of them.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:45:20 GMT
Look, I have been on this (and the old forum for years). MANY of you here have known me for a long, long time and I stand by who I have been from my first day on this forum. I have never been rude to any of you although many of you cannot say the same back to me. Some of you used to be pretty good friends with me, but the very fact that I maintain my conservative standards and do not see things the way you are absolutely determined they are has made me persona non grata with you. So be it. I'm sorry. I have liked many of you very much and have been sad to see the end of the friendships. But I'm not going to get into a mudslinging contest anyone and that's all that can happen on this board anymore if anyone tries to present a different point of view from what is the general view here now. Elaine, you were one of the ones that I felt the worst about losing friendship with. I liked you much better on the old board than I did many of my conservative cohorts. Trump has ruined that friendship I guess. I want to say I expected a far more nasty response from you tonight than I got and I thank you so much for it. You sounded like my old Elaine in your response. I am sorry if I misunderstood you and I appreciate your explanation. I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you for the measured reply. I do care about you and worry about you. G'nite all. You absolutely have been rude to peas who don’t think the same as you do through your condescending and patronizing. You’ve been called out for it more than once.
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Post by delila on Jul 16, 2019 15:48:31 GMT
This has to be one of the saddest posts ever. It’s full of venom & nastiness like the old board was.
We don’t have to agree with each other all the time but we do need to be kind to each other all the time.
delila
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Post by marmargirl on Jul 16, 2019 15:50:52 GMT
The reason I saw this is because I (unlike most of the members of the conservative group you reference) never left this list. I saw your thread title, and opened it because it was so inflammatory. Again, liberals, do you support and pray for the suffering of the children of Americans who don't see things the way you do? If not, I hope at least some of you will have the courage to stand against this awful thread of Elaine's Sometimes, I don’t know what to say anymore. Did you and your conservative friends on this board speak against Trump when children were forcibly separated from their parents? Are you all speaking up now that children are being held in custody in squalor? How about much earlier on when House Republicans and Trump were celebrating in the Rose Garden because they just passed a repeal of Obamacare that would render millions uninsured? How about when one of his supporters in a rally shouted migrants ought to be shot? Or how about when he refused to condemn the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville and blamed the murder on both sides? How about the hate speech that comes out of Trump’s mouth and Twitter fingers as regularly as night follows day? Just a few examples of his atrocities, right? Because to list everything would be a colossal undertaking. Now, I’m not 100% sure none of you spoke against any of these because I’m not here everyday, but if you didn’t speak up then, you have no right to smite anyone now. Yes, Elaine’s thread is inflammatory and it SHOULD BE inflammatory. It’s meant to incite a reckoning, a provocation to examine ourselves and recognize what is morally wrong, AND a push to speak against that wrong, even if it’s just on a message board, or on Twitter, or with friends and family, or wherever and with whoever has an ear to listen. When there is injustice, abuse, corruption, cruelty, brutality, unfairness, oppression, violations, lawlessness and such, there is NO virtue in silence. None. There is no wrong that has ever been remedied by silence. None. Re: the bolded—They would only be outraged if these children and their families were white.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2019 15:50:55 GMT
Trump didn't ruin any of your friendships. Your response to Trump just let people better understand who you are. I'm sure Carly has some friend openings if you're looking for replacements. And the narcissism of making a post about the horrors he has wrought on the world a pearl clutching post falsely accusing Elaine of things you've ignored from others before, bemoaning the loss of friendship and reiterating once about how you feel unwelcome on this board is almost as sad as your lack of a response to those horrors. Keep touting those conservative political values though, whatever they might be. Exactly. Funny how snowsilver can blame trump for a lost friendship (but only because those she thought as friends wouldn’t go along with her side/trump’s side and her “conservative values” ) but not speak out against the atrocities that trump is doing daily, that have nothing to do with conservative values. As far as I’m concerned, snowsilvers self righteous, condescending and patronizing posts are nothing but trump apologist, disgraceful, verbal throw up. Following trump is not anything like Jesus himself would have ever done.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on Jul 16, 2019 15:54:00 GMT
And here it is, proof of the slippery slope:
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jul 16, 2019 15:58:13 GMT
And here it is, proof of the slippery slope: God...now I’m a little afraid to take the Ancestry.com DNA test I got/for my birthday!
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 16, 2019 16:01:55 GMT
This has to be one of the saddest posts ever. It’s full of venom & nastiness like the old board was. We don’t have to agree with each other all the time but we do need to be kind to each other all the time. delila I will NOT be kind to someone who thinks that it’s okay to tell people to go back where they came from.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on Jul 16, 2019 16:09:02 GMT
This has to be one of the saddest posts ever. It’s full of venom & nastiness like the old board was. We don’t have to agree with each other all the time but we do need to be kind to each other all the time. delila I will NOT be kind to someone who thinks that it’s okay to tell people to go back where they came from. It is time to call a spade a spade.
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Post by busy on Jul 16, 2019 16:14:30 GMT
This has to be one of the saddest posts ever. It’s full of venom & nastiness like the old board was. We don’t have to agree with each other all the time but we do need to be kind to each other all the time. delila It’s “funny” how no one seems to call for Trump and his ilk to be kind but American women who are speaking up and acting to protect American values are told we must be kind. Again and again and again. Nope.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2019 16:16:47 GMT
God...now I’m a little afraid to take the Ancestry.com DNA test I got/for my birthday! Now that's funny! She does look like your avatar..
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 16, 2019 16:18:48 GMT
I will NOT be kind to someone who thinks that it’s okay to tell people to go back where they came from. It is time to call a spade a spade. Right. I generally try to be gracious even while disagreeing with someone. Granted, I don’t always succeed if I’m feeling particularly emotional about something, but I do try. So I get what she means, but given the very upsetting specific topic at hand - surely some anger and emotional responses can be understood on this particular thread without needing a handslap issued?
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Post by shevy on Jul 16, 2019 16:23:03 GMT
This has to be one of the saddest posts ever. It’s full of venom & nastiness like the old board was. We don’t have to agree with each other all the time but we do need to be kind to each other all the time. delila I don't think being kind at this point is a big worry. It's gone beyond being kind and trying to get people to see the real and dangerous harm that is occurring daily.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 16, 2019 16:31:08 GMT
I don't think being kind at this point is a big worry. It's gone beyond being kind and trying to get people to see the real and dangerous harm that is occurring daily. Because everyone knows that the key to stopping the Holocaust was being kind to those poor Nazi folks who just wanted to clean out their country and make Germany great again.
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peabay
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Post by peabay on Jul 16, 2019 16:31:09 GMT
Here’s where I stand with my “conservative friends who don’t support Donald Trump.” IF YOU’RE NOT AGAINST HIM, YOU’RE WITH HIM. I’m not asking you to put on a pink pussy hat and protest in front of your state house. I’m not asking you to join the ACLU or donate to AOC’s campaign. I’m not asking you to change your core beliefs (UNLESS they are racist, cruel or infringe upon basic human rights). But I am asking you to have COURAGE and stand against the HORRIFIC positions of Donald Trump. You can do that and STILL be a conservative. Let me help you.... “I believe we need a much stronger immigration policy, but I DO NOT SUPPORT the separating of families or the incarceration of refugees (adults or children) in overcrowded cages. I believe any one held in ANY country for ANY reason should be afforded basic human rights—like enough room to lay down and sleep—even if it’s on the floor.” “I do not support the far-left views of AOC and three other congresswomen recently attacked by Donald Trump. But they are United States Citizens and should never have been told to go back where they came from. I do not support racial discrimination in any form.” “I support Donald Trump’s right to appoint the people he chooses as cabinet members, judges and heads of departments, and I hope he chooses people with conservative views like mine. But I WILL NOT support racists, sexual predators or outright crooks. Period.” “I am open to the idea of talks with foreign heads of state, but the president should NOT embrace regimes that not only deny basic human rights, but torture and murder those who speak against them.” And here’s the big one. It’s not enough to SAY you don’t support Donald Trump. You have a chance, RIGHT NOW, to show you don’t support him by supporting someone ELSE for president. Say it with me: “There are MANY, MANY honest, intelligent and compassionate conservatives out there and I am ACTIVELY supporting one to run against Donald Trump for president. If I really care about the issues that are important to me, I will understand that Donald Trump is actually doing more harm than good. I want a president that will buckle down and get to work passing laws and creating policies I believe in, rather than CONSTANTLY being involved in outrageous scandals that are doing nothing but distracting from the work that needs to be done. I understand that most of the “bold” measures the president is taking are unconstitutional and likely to be overturned, and I would rather have a president that is willing to DO THE DIFFICULT WORK IT TAKES to change things the right (and lasting) way.” It’s REALLY NOT HARD. You CAN maintain your conservative views and human decency at the same time. Trust me—the above statements IN NO WAY make you even close to a liberal or socialist. But your SILENCE says everything. If you are not LOUDLY against him—you are with him. And that says it all... God, that's good.
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Sarah*H
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 16, 2019 16:33:46 GMT
The utter lunacy of handslapping people for posting an “inflammatory” thread title or being not nice on the board after 4 straight days of Trump tweeting foul, racist garbage at his political opponents, days after our very Christian Vice-President flat out lied about the conditions in the detention centers and said that the videos and images we saw are untrue; y’all can be polite to each other at Sunday school or wherever it is you practice your very nice Christian values these days.
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Post by friendly on Jul 16, 2019 16:44:10 GMT
This has to be one of the saddest posts ever. It’s full of venom & nastiness like the old board was. We don’t have to agree with each other all the time but we do need to be kind to each other all the time. delila Being "kind" by speaking the truth of the horrors the Trump administration is forcing on our country is much more important than manners.
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Post by shevy on Jul 16, 2019 16:55:43 GMT
Here’s where I stand with my “conservative friends who don’t support Donald Trump.” IF YOU’RE NOT AGAINST HIM, YOU’RE WITH HIM. I’m not asking you to put on a pink pussy hat and protest in front of your state house. I’m not asking you to join the ACLU or donate to AOC’s campaign. I’m not asking you to change your core beliefs (UNLESS they are racist, cruel or infringe upon basic human rights). But I am asking you to have COURAGE and stand against the HORRIFIC positions of Donald Trump. You can do that and STILL be a conservative. Let me help you.... “I believe we need a much stronger immigration policy, but I DO NOT SUPPORT the separating of families or the incarceration of refugees (adults or children) in overcrowded cages. I believe any one held in ANY country for ANY reason should be afforded basic human rights—like enough room to lay down and sleep—even if it’s on the floor.” “I do not support the far-left views of AOC and three other congresswomen recently attacked by Donald Trump. But they are United States Citizens and should never have been told to go back where they came from. I do not support racial discrimination in any form.” “I support Donald Trump’s right to appoint the people he chooses as cabinet members, judges and heads of departments, and I hope he chooses people with conservative views like mine. But I WILL NOT support racists, sexual predators or outright crooks. Period.” “I am open to the idea of talks with foreign heads of state, but the president should NOT embrace regimes that not only deny basic human rights, but torture and murder those who speak against them.” And here’s the big one. It’s not enough to SAY you don’t support Donald Trump. You have a chance, RIGHT NOW, to show you don’t support him by supporting someone ELSE for president. Say it with me: “There are MANY, MANY honest, intelligent and compassionate conservatives out there and I am ACTIVELY supporting one to run against Donald Trump for president. If I really care about the issues that are important to me, I will understand that Donald Trump is actually doing more harm than good. I want a president that will buckle down and get to work passing laws and creating policies I believe in, rather than CONSTANTLY being involved in outrageous scandals that are doing nothing but distracting from the work that needs to be done. I understand that most of the “bold” measures the president is taking are unconstitutional and likely to be overturned, and I would rather have a president that is willing to DO THE DIFFICULT WORK IT TAKES to change things the right (and lasting) way.” It’s REALLY NOT HARD. You CAN maintain your conservative views and human decency at the same time. Trust me—the above statements IN NO WAY make you even close to a liberal or socialist. But your SILENCE says everything. If you are not LOUDLY against him—you are with him. And that says it all... katybee, I can use this on my Facebook page?
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