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Post by mammajamma on Jul 26, 2019 12:24:33 GMT
Did you do sleepaway camps as a kid? Is that something you wanted to do or your parents signed you up anyway, at least initially? How important is this in childhood?
I went to one, ten day sleepaway camp when I was 16. And I think that was only because it was paid for and my parents didn’t have to pay - and they protected me and sheltered me a lot. My daughter is 8 years old and there are a fair amount of peers that are going to sleepaway camp this year for 1-2 weeks. They are going hundreds of miles away. Many went last summer at age 7 for the first time.
My daughter is very outgoing. Makes friends easily. She does many local day (week long) camps, at places where she doesn’t know anyone. But she says she does not want to go to sleepaway camp. She says she wants to see us at night for bed.
Since you often have to register for camps a year away, I’m wondering if I need to come to grips with this idea for next year. It’s not something I did as a kid, so I am having a hard time understanding the importance. She certainly does a lot more activities with people than I did as a kid. I still have resentment with my parents for limiting me so much. I don’t want this to happen for her, but also not sure when is appropriate age.
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Post by kelly8875 on Jul 26, 2019 12:47:51 GMT
I LOVED summer camp! I went several summers to a nearby camp, for a week at a time. I’d go 3 times each summer. Usually it was there for a week, home for a week, camp for a week, etc. they didn’t offer more than 1 week sessions.
My kids also went to camp, and loved it. Same thing, they went multiple times each summer.
I think Camp is great for kids. Freedom, new experience, new rules, dirt, staying up late, just having fun. Of course not every kid would like it, but I did, and mine did. I still love being outside, hiking, fishing, camping (tent).
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 26, 2019 12:52:51 GMT
I went to Girl Scout camp for two years. The first year I won the week in a co test and I loved it so much that I went back the following year. Great memories. I didn’t continue in Girl Scouts so that was it.
I’m hoping my son will do Outdoor Ed this year but I’m not sure he will go. I’d love for him to have the experience, but his childhood is just different than mine.
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Post by J u l e e on Jul 26, 2019 12:56:48 GMT
My daughter did a sleepaway camp for a week every summer from age 8-12 (or 13). We found the camp for her and signed her up. It wasn't an idea she had on her own, but she didn't resist going either. She is quiet and takes a while to warm up to people and situations. She did fine, especially the first year when I don't think she realized what a week away from home really meant.
I am all for expanding her experiences and nudging her out of comfort zones, any way possible. She has a friend who would never try anything new, never agree to anything she found uncomfortable or challenging, and her parents went along with that. She's a terribly unadjusted 17 year old now going into her senior year of high school and really struggling making decisions and planning for life after graduation.
My daughter still prefers her quiet comfort zone. That didn't change. But she gained independence, perspective (meeting and getting to know girls from different families and who didn't all look like her and live like her), and learned to face and manage herself, her emotions, and her behavior in new situations without her parents around. She just spent a month in Spain this summer as an immersion exchange student with a family who spoke no English. She's looking at colleges across the country and in other countries. Not all because of a week away in the summer as a child, but that was a good way to start.
ETA - I never went as a child and wish I could have had that experience. ETA - It was also important to us because she's an only child and sharing a cabin and a bathroom with a dozen other girls should be something everyone lives through!
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Post by janeinbama on Jul 26, 2019 13:05:47 GMT
I attended sleepaway camps for 6 summers, 2 weeks and remember it all so fondly. One of our DDs attended sleepaway camps and loved it also, another was totally not interested, she loved spending the night with friends, but had no desire to sleep in a tent.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 26, 2019 13:14:47 GMT
No, i never went to sleepaway camp and I dont know anyone who did.
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Post by amom23 on Jul 26, 2019 13:15:40 GMT
I attended several different camps as a kid and my own kids have gone to sleep away camps. Great memories all around.
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Post by Linda on Jul 26, 2019 13:17:14 GMT
I went to Girl Scout camp every summer from 10-16 for 2-3 weeks and then I was a counselor the summer I was 17.
DS did a week at Catholic camp when he was 13-15 and a week (with his troop) at Boy Scout camp from 14-17.
DD19 did a week at Girl Scout camp every summer from 12-15 and DD12 has recently returned from her 4th summer of Girl Scout Camp (one week sessions)
It's expenisve but my kids love/loved it. My mum didn't have the opportunity to go to GS camp so it was important to her that I have that opportunity and DH wasn't able to go with his Boy Scout troop as a child for financial reasons so it was important to him to give our kids the chance
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 13:23:31 GMT
I went to sleep away camps starting at 7. I wanted to go. IMO, kids having experience of spending the week without parents are better prepared for transitioning into adulthood without their parent being there. It doesn't have to be as young as 7 or 8 but by 9 I would encourage away camps. Those opportunities tend to fizzle out by about 12-13 years old. If you have a reluctant child start with a 2-3 night camp and not a 2 week camp.
Kids learn they do have the inner strength do deal with being home sick, they can depend on others to help them, and they are often more "able" to do all sorts of things for themselves that mom tends to do for them. And the thrill of having stories to tell about adventures when they get home.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 13:27:14 GMT
I never did - didn't have the means and there weren't as many programs to help kids like us in those days (or my parents didn't know about them).
Kids went to sleepaway camp from 8ish to 13ish. They loved it! Not plane ride away, but hours away.
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Post by Loydene on Jul 26, 2019 13:31:56 GMT
I attended both church and Camp Fire Girl camps -- for many years. It was anticipated for each summer. I was pretty young when I started going to overnight camps on my own - but I know that there are stories of my mother having me at church camp when I was a babe in arms. So I guess it is just part of my Mother's "culture" to have us attend week long "retreats" - both through her church and with Camp Fire Girls.
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Post by paigepea on Jul 26, 2019 13:41:32 GMT
I went to camp as a kid and hated it. I went for 2 summers, 3 weeks each summer. Once when I was 12 and once when i was 13. Then I told my parents I didn’t want to go anymore. My sister went every year and was a huge camper so my parents were surprised but wouldn’t force me.
My older dd started going to camp at age 8. She started with one week, the next year for 2 weeks, the next year 4 weeks and she has been at 4 weeks for the last 4 years. Next year she will go for 6 weeks as part of the counsellor in training program. She loves camp. My younger dd started with 2 weeks at age 7 and 8. Then she did 4 weeks at age 9 and now at 10 she’s there for 4 weeks.
Both of my girls have been there since June 30. They come home on Sunday. Can’t wait to see them. Their letters and pics are great. Both are happy. They are at the same faith based camp I went to when I was a kid. My niece and nephew are also there with them as are many of their friends. They come home with more independence, confidence and resourcefulness. They really learn how to get along with others (not that they didn’t know how before). It’s also great to be away from cars, TV, phones, tablets for 4 straight weeks. They come home very hyper aware of noise and electronics. They’ll find the city noisy. They’ll be sun kissed, happy and exhausted. Last year older dd came home and slept for 6 hours. Then she started her countdown to next summer.
For us the camp is a 5.5 hr bus ride away. My niece and nephew have a 3 hr plane ride.
ETA: we sign up first week of October for next summer. I agree, when the kids were younger it felt too early to sign up. The kids mature so much over the year that a kid could easily change their mind. Because camp fills up quickly parents would sign up and then drop out / loose deposit if their child changed their mind. It was better than no space. We never had an issue. It was always easy for us to project what the kids would want. Also, we often did what the friends were doing. Parents would discuss ahead.
And Dh and I got to travel to Greece for 2 weeks.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 26, 2019 14:05:57 GMT
I did not do sleep away camp when I was a kid, but my circumstances may have been a bit different. We owned a campground and my parents also both worked full time jobs. My mother worked days. My father worked nights, but had to do all the mowing and maintenance during the day.
So from the age of 6 on I was in charge of watching the office and small store, checking in the campers, accepting the deliveries, etc. My father was around so he was always stopping in or I could get him when needed. Anyway it just wasn’t feasible for me to attend camp.
However I had great summers, and look back at them fondly. We had a lot of local campers that came weekends, and repeat campers from afar that came every summer. I made a lot of friends and got to have a lot of fun amongst all the work.
My 12 year old nephew just went (comes home tonight) to a conservation camp for a week. We will see how it went. He is very social and an extrovert, plus a friend of his also went. I know that my 9 year old niece will never want to go. So I guess it depends on the kid and I would feel no guilt making the decision based on what your kid wants.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jul 26, 2019 14:14:17 GMT
I never went to a camp, but my kids both did. It was their choice -- Boy Scout camp, GS camp, and a few others. They always went with friends (or their troop) and had a wonderful time. The camps were always within a three hour drive, so no plane rides to get there. It was overall an excellent experience for them.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 26, 2019 14:22:42 GMT
Did you do sleepaway camps as a kid? No...my parents could never afford to send us.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 26, 2019 14:25:51 GMT
I never went to one as a child. I don’t know many people who did. It was not a big deal here.
My children would never want to go, which is good because I would never send them.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 26, 2019 14:28:23 GMT
Sorry for the 2nd reply, I just read the other comments. I guess I feel a bit wish washy because I do believe that there are other ways to instill independence and world views without a summer camp experience. BUT I do see where the camp experience can be great and that sometimes you need to force your kids out of their comfort zone. Most of my friends had very little camp experience, but we were all pretty independent...for a variety of other reasons. When I was a teen I worked at a store on a lake that had 2 very established summer camps (one outdoorsy and one music) and once a week they would bring the kids into the store for their candy and snack fix (it was chaos ) and you could so easily tell the kids that loved it. You could also tell the kids that were really miserable and I always felt so sad for those kids. I would not want to force that on anyone if not really necessary...and I don’t think camp is really necessary (IMO). Best you can do is do what feels right for your kid and know that there are a variety of ways to make your kids independent.
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Post by peano on Jul 26, 2019 14:30:52 GMT
I went to GS camp for a week one year around age 9, and my best friend was there too, so it was pretty easy for me, since I was a shy kid. I enjoyed it, but then I like the outdoors--and goats. Our camp had two resident goats, LOL!
We did not send DS to sleep away camp but we did put him in multiple day camp activities through our town park and rec. He pretty much hated every minute of it, but I didn't find this out until he was in HS. He is neither an outdoorsy nor a sporty kid, so it just wasn't his thing.
Even if he had complained at the time, I would have still enrolled him in these activities, mainly since we don't have neighborhoods around here where we live where he could have played outside with friends. I didn't want him just sitting around playing video games. The downside was that he aged out of these camps in 6th grade, so there were a couple of summers where he was too young to work, not involved in band camp yet, but too old for activities. That was rough.
This to me would be the advantage of sleep-away camp--you can attend as a camper when you're young and then return as a counselor when you're old enough, something a couple of my friend's kids are doing this summer.
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Post by Belle on Jul 26, 2019 14:42:18 GMT
I loved camp as a kid. I am an only child and my mom worked full time. My summers were super boring unless I was at camp. DH never went to camp and to this day, doesn’t love the idea.
Both of my kids went on a 2 night sleep away camp with their 5th grade class and loved it. Since then, they have done a camp every summer.
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Post by pilcas on Jul 26, 2019 14:46:20 GMT
I know it’s something of a tradition in some areas but it’s not something that appealed to me when my kids were young. I would not send a child younger than 10. I was a teacher and my husband was a school guidance counselors so we used the summers to travel with the kids, and share different experiences with them. We also did things with their cousins. I understand why working parents would do this but in our case I welcomed the time to do things with our kids. While building independence is good, so is building fun memories as a family.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jul 26, 2019 14:49:16 GMT
i did. girl scout came for two years starting when i was 12. then i found a camp in colorado that i went to for two more years. i love camp!
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Post by mustlovecats on Jul 26, 2019 15:05:01 GMT
Mine have done scout type camps and one is signed up for a two week horse camp. I don’t make them do it, they decide who wants to go where.
I did all kinds of camps as a kid and it was great. 4-H camp in elementary school, then arts camps and Governors School which was my favorite.
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Post by lily on Jul 26, 2019 15:05:34 GMT
No sleep away camp for me except for one weekend Girl Scout trip, but my mom came as a chaperone. It was fun except for the wooden outhouse. I literally did not go to the bathroom ALL weekend. I was about 12.
Our son did go to a one week sleep away camp specifically for disabled children (he is autistic) from age 8 to 16, and he LOVED it every year.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jul 26, 2019 15:15:50 GMT
I went to a one week sleepaway camp every summer. It was seriously the highlight of my summers growing up!
Up until about 2 years ago my 17yo ds went to sleepaway camps. He's been to adventure camps (fishing, kayaking, etc) and also to sea camp. He loved them!
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 26, 2019 15:18:37 GMT
I love summer camp. Camp was a huge part of my formation as a person and I can't think of a better experience for kids. I went tot he same camp my mom and aunt went to. I met my husband there (had our wedding there too, back in the '90s, before summer camp weddings were "a thing") Our own kids attended and also worked as counselors. My very best friends are the girls I camped with as a kid and we are all in touch with each other to this day. We all started camp at age 6.
Camp gives kids the gift of independence. It provides opportunities that challenge in a safe environment. Mostly, though, camp promotes the ideas of friendship, equality, and being part of a group that becomes something special, even if for just one magical week in the summer.
I maintain that I learned more about being a teacher at camp than I did in four years at university. I am the teacher I am today because as a camper, a CIT, and a staff member I learned how to form the relationships that are the foundation of my 7th grade classroom today.
There was not a lot of extra money in my family when I was growing up, but I'll be eternally thankful that my parents made getting me to camp each summer a priority.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 26, 2019 15:22:39 GMT
I love summer camp and I feels it has great value for most children but not all. I would start with a local camp.. a Ymca camp or faith camp or a GS camp. for GS camp, you do not need to be a girl scout and they have camperships to help if needed. I would give it a try for a short camp.. like 5 days. I loved camp so much, I worked at camps 4 yrs after high school, and majored in environmental education .. and took a class in camp administration!!!
a child can gain so many skills of independence and problem solving. and they learn to live without tech.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 26, 2019 15:23:28 GMT
I went to sleepaway camp (church camp) for a week when I was about 12-13, and I liked it okay. I remember liking the *idea* of camp when I was a kid-- my ideas about camp were fueled by the books I read-- Trixie Belden, Donna Parker, Nancy Drew-- where they all had wonderful adventures at camp. But I wasn't outgoing at ALL; I was more introverted, quiet, and I was mortified at the idea of possibly having my period during that week while I was away (because I didn't use tampons). So I don't think I had that great of a time, actually.
I think if your daughter says at 16 that she wouldn't like it, then maybe you should respect her feelings and not send her away, just because you think it would *be good for her* to do it.
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 26, 2019 15:24:07 GMT
I attended both church and Camp Fire Girl camps -- for many years. It was anticipated for each summer. I was pretty young when I started going to overnight camps on my own - but I know that there are stories of my mother having me at church camp when I was a babe in arms. So I guess it is just part of my Mother's "culture" to have us attend week long "retreats" - both through her church and with Camp Fire Girls. Camp Fire camp for me too! Wo He Lo!
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Post by ntsf on Jul 26, 2019 15:28:22 GMT
I worked at Girl Scout camp, Campfire Camp, Youth conservation corp (taught trail building all summer), Explorer/Boy Scout camp and then got a job with the Forest Service on fire crew.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Jul 26, 2019 15:31:40 GMT
I did Girl Scout camp for a week maybe for 2-3 summers. I would have been between 7-10. Those are some of my favorite summer memories. I loved getting the packing list and then fitting everything in my sleeping bag and rolling it up.
My oldest DD did sleepover camps for a week I think for two summers. She was nervous about it but excited too. She had friends that went so I think that helped. She enjoyed it and always came home dirty, stinky and tired. That must mean it was a fun week!
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