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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 15:35:31 GMT
I didn't go because it wasn't something my family could have afforded. My kids didn't go, but they did attend day camps and overnight stays for school events. DH went, but he went with his cousin. He hated it initially, but loved it at the end.
I don't think there's one right answer as I'm sure there are both positive and negatives experiences people have had. Personally, I really don't think there's a need to push your child at this age if she doesn't feel comfortable. Perhaps sign her up for day camps and see if she likes it first?
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Post by malibou on Jul 26, 2019 15:36:47 GMT
I wanted to go to sleep away camp so badly, but my family couldn't afford it.
When ds came along, I started talking about camp early so he would know it was coming. He went for a week the first time at age 7 and loved it. The next several years until 16 was two different camps for a week each.
He also went away with dh for 2 weeks plus each year after school got out. They mostly mountain biked with a little hiking and rafting thrown in for good measure. Some of it was camping the rest in hotels. Ds graduated this year and they had their 11th annual trip. Ds is already lamenting the fact that it might not happen again. Dh is too.
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Post by tyra on Jul 26, 2019 15:44:01 GMT
I went for 5 summers to the same camp. I loved it and have great memories My older son had zero interest in sleepaway camp when he was younger. I was just talking to my MIL about my 2yr old. Hoping he is interested!
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Post by LisaDV on Jul 26, 2019 16:08:15 GMT
I think trying to get a child to try new things is always good. However, I'd be really against sending my child to some place away for 1-2 weeks when they don't want to go. If they wanted to go, I'd have no problems with it.
DH is big into the kids need to do this because I did this. Well, they aren't you. They aren't me. I do try to encourage them to try new things. DS has no interest in sleep over camps or any other camps really. I did get him to go to one invention styled day camp once. DD, couldn't wait to be old enough, and then she got sick although she's getting better now, if I could find one that would cater to her special dietary needs and health issues, she'd love to go.
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Post by elaine on Jul 26, 2019 16:27:07 GMT
Did you do sleepaway camps as a kid? Is that something you wanted to do or your parents signed you up anyway, at least initially? How important is this in childhood? I went to one, ten day sleepaway camp when I was 16. And I think that was only because it was paid for and my parents didn’t have to pay - and they protected me and sheltered me a lot. My daughter is 8 years old and there are a fair amount of peers that are going to sleepaway camp this year for 1-2 weeks. They are going hundreds of miles away. Many went last summer at age 7 for the first time. My daughter is very outgoing. Makes friends easily. She does many local day (week long) camps, at places where she doesn’t know anyone. But she says she does not want to go to sleepaway camp. She says she wants to see us at night for bed. Since you often have to register for camps a year away, I’m wondering if I need to come to grips with this idea for next year. It’s not something I did as a kid, so I am having a hard time understanding the importance. She certainly does a lot more activities with people than I did as a kid. I still have resentment with my parents for limiting me so much. I don’t want this to happen for her, but also not sure when is appropriate age. Since she is outgoing, handles day camp just fine, and her only objection is wanting to see you at night for bed, I would encourage her/nudge her to try sleepaway camp next summer. Maybe one that is within a 3-4 hour drive, rather than farther away. And/or maybe one that one of her friends is going to. If she was socially awkward and/or extremely introverted &/or had a long list of why should be “miserable” at camp, my response would be different. It sounds to me like she will do just fine and it is just being in such a different situation from what she has known (sleeping at home) that is causing her to hesitate - many people don’t embrace unknown situations like that wholeheartedly. I went to a variety of sleepover camps - Girl Scouts, Pony Club, Jewish Camp, and Music Camp. I loved them all and had very different experiences at each.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 26, 2019 16:48:22 GMT
I think I went once, probably around 10 or 11. Don't really have many memories of it except through pictures. I think it was through the Camp Fire Girls similar to Girl Scouts.
My two oldest went to one through our church for a week. They had fun but not enough to go more than once. My youngest probably would not go though..she doesn't even like overnight zoo sleepovers.. she gets very anxious.. so we usually opt out of them.
Edited to add: Regarding DD who gets anxious, I don't feel the need to push her to go to camp to get over this anxiety thing she has. We do other things to help that out.
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Post by SharonScraps on Jul 26, 2019 17:02:09 GMT
I did day camps when young, then sleep away camp starting in middle school. LOVED it, but being middle school, we didn’t want to do all the planned activities, we wanted to hang out and talk! In college, I was a camp counselor each summer. Again, LOVED IT. Only a few kiddos had severe home sickness, but these same girls cried when they left, they had such a good time. Most of those particular girls, I saw again the next year. (This is tent camping) I have friends that send their girls to a more commercial boarding camp each summer, the kids love it, and keep up with their new friends all year. From the sound of it, the same girls return each year and they try to bunk together each year in cabins. Honestly, if she does not want to go, it can wait til she gets older. That said, she doesn’t know until until she has tried it and may learn that she loves it. Would she be interested in buddying up with a friend and going together? Could the family go to a family camp the first year to give her a taste of it? Best wishes Sharon
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Post by peabay on Jul 26, 2019 17:07:30 GMT
It's only as important as a parent's fond memories of their own experience.
I grew up in a beach community. As my mom loved to say: "your life is camp. You don't need to go to camp."
My best friends grew up going to sleep away camp for 8 weeks every summer. They couldn't imagine not sending their kids - they learned to play tennis, to lifeguard, to do just about everything they loved as teens at camp. Their girls go to the same camp they went to.
My kids were fine doing various day camps. My youngest went to sleepaway 2 summers but it was ridiculously expensive (we're talking 5 figures) and we just felt it wasn't worth the money that could be saved for college.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 26, 2019 17:07:38 GMT
I did (and our kids do).
I was terribly homesick (very introverted) and it was hard I cried at sleep time.
But I survived and as an adult now with kids, love it, remember it fondly and we even support the camp I went to!!!
So yes, love them, send kiddos, and think that it shaped a part of me!
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Post by KelleeM on Jul 26, 2019 17:16:26 GMT
I think I would have loved camp but it wasn’t in the cards, financially, for my family.
My son went to camp for two summers at 8 and 9 years old for kids with mental health issues. He had been diagnosed with depression, ODD and other issues at that point. The first summer he received a full scholarship but the second year I paid for part of it.
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Post by gina on Jul 26, 2019 17:36:32 GMT
No I never went to sleep away camp and I am glad. I would have HATED it. I hated sleeping away and still do. Both of my DDs just finished a week long lacrosse camp that has a sleepover option. They had fun. I told them next Summer maybe they'd like to try the sleep-over option. My oldest daughter is going into 11th grade. She's like "yeahhhhhh no. I like commuting". lol This is the kid who does not want to go away to school either in 2 years. Never has. Some people just do not like sleeping away from home.
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Post by J u l e e on Jul 26, 2019 17:54:36 GMT
I want to speak to the value for me as a parent as well. As I said earlier, my daughter is an only child and I stayed at home with her. My husband worked and traveled a lot. My daughter and I have always been close, but when she was younger I often had to find ways for her to be independent of me. We were always together. I knew everything she did and every single one of her friends and their families. I knew what she ate and what she liked to do and she was super comfortable just spending all her days with me.
I guess that sounds really great and what we hope for our kids. I certainly didn't want it to be the opposite of that, but because I was available I was on every field trip and at every class party and the one to drive all the girls around and home on snow days from school, etc. And I loved every bit of that. But I realized that that might not be completely healthy or certainly sustainable.
Being away from each other, even from a week, was so important. I don't know what my daughter ate, if she brushed her teeth, what she wore, who was her buddy for the bike. I can't explain really why that was so helpful. Years later she told me she ate nothing but bread the entire week her first year at camp. She also said she slept in her clothes because it was such a rush to be ready for breakfast the next morning. I'm pretty sure she never brushed her hair any of the years she was there. But she did eventually try foods she never would have at home. And she made all those decisions for herself for whatever reasons she deemed were important and none of that would've happened at home. And I learned to give up the responsibility for those choices for her for a week, and know that she'd still be alive at the end of he week regardless of any of those things.
And I got a week to myself to remember I just wasn't someone's mom and remember what to do with my own time without always having a child by my side. As silly as it may sound, it made me ready to be able to eventually go out into the world and make her own way without either of us being completely lost.
Summer camp is no joke! =)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 17:54:43 GMT
I'm sending my DD 13 to sleep away camp for the first time this coming Sunday. It's in the Adirondacks so about a 2.5 hour bus ride away. Here's the kicker though: our school district takes the camp over for not quite a week so she'll at least know people. She didn't want to go at first but after hearing that her doctor went when she was a kid kind of sealed the deal.
Like some PP's above, I feel it's a good thing for kids to step outside of their comfort zones sometimes. How else are you going to know what you like or don't like. I also didn't want her nose buried in her phone or television all summer.
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Post by schizo319 on Jul 26, 2019 18:18:58 GMT
I think sleep-away camps might be a regional thing? I never heard of any in this area growing up. There were lots of day camps and churches would have "lock-ins" (sleepovers) during the summer, but no one I knew ever went to an overnight camp.
I DID go to a "craft camp" for adults a few years ago though. It was over a long weekend and there were a ton of make & take stations and classes to do during the day. It was okay, but spending the night in a giant room with a bunch of snoring middle aged women was not my idea of a good time. I discovered that I'm far too anti-social for that sort of thing - I need my down time away from other humans, so I probably wouldn't have enjoyed sleep away camp as a kid either.
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Post by roberta on Jul 26, 2019 18:33:45 GMT
My dd and I were both Girl Scouts and loved camp.
As a former GS leader I strongly recommend you start with a weekend or overnight experience before sending your dd to a week long camp. I would recommend this for any child who has not camped but especially for a child who says they do not want to go. I do not believe in forcing experiences on kids or ignoring their wishes. I have been a volunteer leader at camps and even day camp can be miserable for everyone if a child is not willing and unhappy.
Camping/camp is not for everyone. You might be able to convince your dd to give it a try but it should be short term at first. A day experience or family outing would be a good way to start.
ETA: I do believe in encouraging kids to step outside their comfort zone and nudging them to try new things. You know your dd best so use your best judgement how much to encourage/nudge. It’s had sometimes to know the line to avoid the feeling that they hate something because we pushed too hard.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 26, 2019 18:44:53 GMT
I went to 4-H, scout, and church camps. I don't think they are for everyone. Sleep away camps (for the sake of camping and no organization attached) aren't a thing where I live.
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Post by auntkelly on Jul 26, 2019 18:53:11 GMT
I grew up going to Camp Fire Camp and Church Camp and have great memories of both. The camps were very affordable, even by 1960-70s standards.
My kids went to camp and enjoyed it,
I agree w/ others who say they would encourage a kid to go to camp, but not force the kid to go to camp.
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Post by chlerbie on Jul 26, 2019 18:56:00 GMT
I went for a week every summer and it was the best time of the summer each year. I even became a counselor for the summer after I graduated. I look back on it so fondly and am still friends with the girls I'd meet up there with each year.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 26, 2019 19:15:37 GMT
I went to one week camp, either Girl Scouts or church related, when I was growing up. We started DD with camp the summer after 2nd Grade with one week at a private camp about 4 hours from here. The next year she moved up to the 4 week program there and went for 8 more years. She's always been outdoorsy and very independent so sleep away camp was a good fit for her. Since she is an only, it was good for her to learn to live with others. I think sleep away camp can be beneficial in helping foster independence and offering many learning experiences, but it's not worth forcing a child who is dead set against going.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 26, 2019 19:19:45 GMT
I went to 4-H camp that was overnight for just 1-2 nights.
I went to church camps that were from Sunday PM to Saturday AM.
I think that camps are a good thing. Gives the children a chance to develop some independence and grow in other ways.
Our son went to church camps from about 6th grade until 12th grade. He also went to Space Camp in Huntsville, Alabama for 3 different years.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 26, 2019 19:23:25 GMT
Our religious denomination (in north Texas - don't know about the other areas) offers "Grandparent camp." It is an opportunity for grandparents and children (age 3 to 7) to have a 3 day weekend together at the campground that is about 100 miles from Dallas.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 26, 2019 21:30:17 GMT
I went to camp every summer from when I was maybe 8 or so until I was old enough to be a CIT, then I did that for two summers. Then I went to college and found a better-paying job at home for the summers. (better paying than being a camp counselor).
My ds never wanted to go to overnight camp. Dd went for a couple of nights with her Girl Scout troop, but never wanted to go more than that.
Personally I don't think going to overnight camp is something that a kid needs to be independent and learn new things... or whatever else some people have said in this thread. My ds who never went overnight at all (except to friends' houses) managed to grow up just fine, found himself an internship at the Smithsonian after high school, moved himself down to Georgia a couple of years after high school, went to France for a month for a school program, etc. Dd went away to college and had a great experience, drove herself to New Orleans and has lived there for a year, will be living in New York City next year... No lack of independence in either one of them. Camp is not the only way to teach that.
All that to say that if your dd doesn't want to go I wouldn't force her. And she's only 8. Maybe she'll want to go when she's 12... Or maybe not. Just give her other opportunities to learn independence. That's not totally dependent on sleepaway camp.
Just my opinion of course...
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Post by beaglemom on Jul 26, 2019 21:46:53 GMT
I lOVED summer camp! The first week I went was the week of my 8th birthday, you had to be 8 at attend and my mom convinced them to let me go since i turned 8 on the Tuesday of the week. I went to that camp for 1-2 weeks from age 8 till the summer before my senior year of high school. I also went swimming camp at a local university that we got to sleep in the dorms, I did that at least 3 or 4 summers.
I loved it! My oldest is 8 and I was super bummed that I couldn't convince her to do it this summer. My nieces and nephews range from 7-14 and none of them have ever gone - which I find super weird since their moms (along with dh) went a couple of weeks every summer and loved it.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jul 27, 2019 0:59:20 GMT
I did several camps and so did DD. There is an independence fostered at sleep away camp that you don’t get as a day camper.
Eight and nine are both still very young. Look into whether any of the camps near you order a “first camp” or parent kid camp. I did this with DD at both a camp run by my church and Girl Scout camp. It let both of us experience camp for the first time together.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jul 27, 2019 1:47:32 GMT
Sleep away camp from age 7-18 was spending the first 6 weeks of summer vacation at my dads cleaning, because his wife is a filthy beast. DS attended sleep away camps for basketball, and DD for marching band; usually at a university, but never nature type camps. We are camping is staying at a hotel without room service kinda of people .
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Post by kate on Jul 27, 2019 2:15:19 GMT
Soooooo many variables here... Eight is YOUNG for camp. I used to be a counselor at a sleepaway camp where the youngest campers were 8. They cried for the first 3-4 WEEKS of camp. My friend was a counselor for the youngest ones (I had teens, which was a whole 'nother kettle of fish).
Among some people in NYC, 8 weeks of sleepaway camp is the norm from age 8 through high school. Only one of my own kids showed any interest in sleepaway camp, and then we started with one week at age 12 or so. That kid is now a counselor in training at the same camp, and gone for a month. All of my kids have successfully traveled away from home without family, so I don't think camp is necessary for that.
If you don't think she's ready at 9 next year, that's fine. She can go later. As a kid, I went to GS camp for a week each summer through middle school, and I was miserably homesick for the first 4-5 days. That did not stop me from being an exchange student in high school, and I had no problem going away to college in another part of the country.
All that is to say that camp is a fun experience for those who want to go. However, don't feel pressure to send your DD next summer if you or she is not ready.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 27, 2019 2:26:33 GMT
We don't have summer camps in Australia. I was always sooooo jealous when I would read about American kids and their summer camps in books when I was a kid. I would have loved to have gone. We have overnight camps at school starting in Year 3, but they only go for 2-5 days (depending on the year level of the kids) during the school term.
Side note: The 21yo son of a friend of mine is currently in Virginia in the US running the sports program at a summer camp. This is his second year doing it and he absolutely loves it.
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