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Post by cmpeter on Oct 11, 2014 2:58:52 GMT
I sure wish I had asked what the other parents thought "being on time" means.
I am a “If you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late" type of person. One of the other mom's is a "if you aren't late, you're on on time" person. Totally acceptable if that works for her, but it drives me batty!
The carpool saves so much time and I am grateful for that.
Tell me how much you love/hate your carpool.
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Post by Sassenach on Oct 11, 2014 3:08:26 GMT
If you're on time = you're on time.
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Post by myshelly on Oct 11, 2014 3:10:52 GMT
Soooo....you're complaining about her because she's not late?
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Post by myshelly on Oct 11, 2014 3:14:05 GMT
You do realize that you always being early drives her just as batty as she drives you, right?
On time is on time.
Early is early (which is just as annoying as being late).
Late is late.
You don't get to redefine that just based on your own personal opinion.
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Post by peano on Oct 11, 2014 3:16:43 GMT
I sure wish I had asked what the other parents thought "being on time" means. I am a “If you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late" type of person. One of the other mom's is a "if you aren't late, you're on on time" person. Totally acceptable if that works for her, but it drives me batty! The carpool saves so much time and I am grateful for that. Tell me how much you love/hate your carpool. We're in the thick of marching band season here, so I'm doing lots of carpooling. Band director wants everyone at practice 15 minutes before the actual start time. That is the goal I shoot for. I never got the “If you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late" type of philosophy--it seems like it would work well in the Marines or some other highly regimented group. As long as the kids are in the parking lot at the designated time, I consider my job done. If someone in our carpool group felt as you do, I wouldn't be happy.
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Post by akathy on Oct 11, 2014 3:40:03 GMT
Soooo....you're complaining about her because she's not late? I'm not getting why being on time is a bad thing either.
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Post by fotos4u2 on Oct 11, 2014 3:52:37 GMT
I'm somewhat with you in the like being early camp. However when it comes to other people taking my kid, I don't care as long as they aren't late. Of course I'm clear with everyone that when it's MY TURN to drive we'll be leaving early  mostly because I stress out if we're getting close to even possibly being late. We had a kid in our carpool that actually got left behind because the carpool came and he wasn't ready and if they had waited for him they would have been late! We were very happy when this kid decided he wanted to start riding his bike. At the moment I carpool with the junior high kid. I pick up every day and the other mom drops off 3-4 days a week. Sounds good, right? Except that I have a high schooler that still doesn't have his drivers license so I'm dropping him off a block away from the junior high at the high school every morning! I figure one of these days he'll get his license and I'll be off the hook. lol
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Post by trollie on Oct 11, 2014 3:53:58 GMT
If you're on time, you're on time.... That's my philosophy.
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Post by shevy on Oct 11, 2014 4:03:16 GMT
I'm just like the OP, I hate to be late. So, I'm always about 5 minutes early. It's just one of my things. But I've learned that groups are made up of every type and I need to get over it when I can't control it.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 11, 2014 4:17:05 GMT
I tend to be an early to everything person and only carpool with people that I trust to be on time.
I'm very happy to do afternoon p/u 4 days a week, so I don't worry too much about being late, but 99% of the time I'm at our p/u spot before the kids and if I am late, I always text DS.
DS gets really ticked off if his morning ride is late, but I know they will always be here in plenty of time to get to school, so never stress about it and am happy not to be in early morning traffic.
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Post by lightetc on Oct 11, 2014 4:20:13 GMT
I'm just like the OP, I hate to be late. So, I'm always about 5 minutes early. It's just one of my things. But I've learned that groups are made up of every type and I need to get over it when I can't control it. Me too. I know I want to be there early but bite my tongue because I know it's unreasonable to inflict this on others. For me it's a matter of having time to scout out my surroundings and get the lay of the land. I hate walking into a big group of people. I know this is personal and certainly don't expect everyone else to be there at the same time, else I'd have to be there earlier. Obviously, if it's someone's home I won't knock on the door early. Happy to sit in the car and wait so I don't inconvenience others.
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Post by sunnyd on Oct 11, 2014 4:26:19 GMT
Carpools never ever worked for me. From the other parent forgetting to pick up my kid to other parent not being home when I dropped their kid off, I hated every minute of it, every time.
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Post by Basket1lady on Oct 11, 2014 4:32:47 GMT
My carpool vent is that if you are going to have your husband do the carpool run, great. But pick up all the kids. My kids were forgotten today, in spite of there only being 5 kids total in the carpool. That your kid plus three stops. We all live within two blocks of each other and I had just texted the mom 15 minutes earlier to confirm it was her day. Its so bad that we bought a van last week for me and DS now has our old van. Starting Monday, we are out of the carpool and he's driving him and DD to school daily.
I'm ok if you are on time. But if I'm picking up, on time doesn't mean that mom opens the door while you find your shoes, go back to the kitchen and grab a note you left, and then go into the garage to grab a Mountain Dew and THEN finally get in my van. Our kids are all theatre transfer students and catch a bus from the library to the high school. The bus leaves at exactly the same time every day--even if you pull up behind it and flash your lights. Time waits for no man and twice I've had to follow the bus to the school because the same kid made us late.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Oct 11, 2014 4:34:18 GMT
My getting to work on time is non-negotiable. It causes a hardship for at least 31 people, plus me.
I don't do carpool in the morning, because if you can't get it together to have your kid ready on time I'm late and I can't depend on the vast majority of people. We have a semi-regular afternoon carpool, but the time constraint doesn't hold then.
Five minutes late means ten minutes behind schedule, ten minutes = thirty minutes on my end. The traffic is exponential here.
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Post by cmpeter on Oct 11, 2014 5:06:24 GMT
Oh I am sure I drive her batty too and like I said, I am grateful. I don't tell her what time to pick up carpool, but she will push back if I want to build in a ten minute buffer.
We are driving during rush hour traffic in Seattle, there is lots of opportunity for traffic delays and the kids have been late before (though not often). Rehearsals start at. 7:00 and if it was just me I would drop the kids off at 6:50, not 7:00.
I am just venting, I am not saying something to her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 11:08:36 GMT
I carpooled one school year and won't do that again. It was me and 2 other families, so it seemed like it would go well.
One mom was usually running late, so we either sat and waited for her kids, or she'd be driving sorta like a bat outta hell to get to school on time, which I really didn't like.
Next, the other mom part way through the year got a job. That's great for her, but it made me and the other mom have to adjust when we would pick up and drop off to fill in for her work schedule.
Lastly, the 2nd and 3rd moms got into a fight (really it was their kids, but it carried over to the moms). So, the non-working mom dropped out of the car pool. WTH?!?!?
I drove back and forth, between 2 schools the majority of the time after that. I was soooo done when that school year was over and swore to never do it again.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 11, 2014 11:15:50 GMT
If practice starts at 7, they SHOULD be there by 650 in order to be ready to go at 7. You don't say(or I didn't pay attention) to what kind of practice, but I don't know of many practices where someone can just roll out of the car at 659 and be ready to start practice at 7. In short, I agree with you, that wouldn't work for me either.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 11, 2014 11:23:52 GMT
Oh I am sure I drive her batty too and like I said, I am grateful. I don't tell her what time to pick up carpool, but she will push back if I want to build in a ten minute buffer. We are driving during rush hour traffic in Seattle, there is lots of opportunity for traffic delays and the kids have been late before (though not often). Rehearsals start at. 7:00 and if it was just me I would drop the kids off at 6:50, not 7:00. I am just venting, I am not saying something to her. But see, for me if something *starts* at 7:00 then being dropped of at 7:00 IS late. Because if you're being dropped off at 7:00 you still have to get from the car drop-off spot into the room of whatever event you're going for, take of your coat/jacket/rain boots/whatever weather-related thing you have, get out supplies, whatever. Unless you can just appear there straight out of the car, and appear ready to work/study/act/sing/whatever, then you are going to be late. So I'm with you. This is why I hate carpools -- for me it's just a different form of a group project. ugh. Thankfully I've never had to depend on one regularly to get my kids to school.  eta: Littlemama and I were posting at the same time, to say basically the same thing. 
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Post by momto4kiddos on Oct 11, 2014 11:28:43 GMT
Carpools are evil, lol. I've gotten involved in them for different things and I always say never again! I've had one ditzy mom forget to pick up my kid way back when. Another high school carpool, I was carpooling in the afternoon with one mom, we were switching off. All of the sudden, there was a car full of kids in the afternoons (and I drive a suburban so we weren't filling a small car!) Other mom didn't seem to mind, but I had a kindergartener and 2nd grader that my middle schooler was getting off the bus because I had all the kids on the other side of town (15 minutes from my house) to drop. Sure let me inconvenience my family to help all of you out (by the way these parents were mia...no one ever gave a ride they just took.) Ended that pretty quickly! Another one the kid who was way old enough to know better was sticking gum under my seats, real treasure that kid was. Best was the Mom who got them to school a few times late. Wasn't thrilled and they were getting "tardies" out of it. She never mentioned it until they were real late one day because she stopped for donuts (when she picked up at my house she was already running VERY tight for time.) Apparently it was the donuts shops long line at fault. Carpool ended with that. Enough was enough. I'm down to a year away from my last child licensed....I hope never to hear the words carpool uttered in my presence ever again 
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Post by brina on Oct 11, 2014 11:30:17 GMT
Carpools can be wonderful - but sometimes not. We spent one year carpooling to swimming with a family who's son really didn't want to swim. He would be late coming out of the house. The mom was picking my son up on time so I thought she had some trick on days that she was driving. Turns out her 'trick' was to tell her son to get ready, come over and get my son on time and then go back for her son. My ds would wind up sitting in the car waiting every day. At the time the kids were young - practice was not very long - so whoever drove would stay at the pool and drive home. One day we got to the pool and the boy had forgotten his swim suit. He called his mom who then called me and asked me to check through his bag and around the locker and then wanted me to drive her son home rather than making him wait until the end of practice. It was only a 45 minute session, so I said no.
On the flip side, we had a swimming carpool that went on for 4 years that was amazing. We had other kids come and go, but mainly it was my son and a girl from a few blocks away. The kids got along. DH and I and the other parents were on the same page regarding timing. Nobody ever took advantage and we both bailed each other out when a tight spot arose - on more than one occasion over the years one or the other of us drove the other person's child on a day that our own child was not swimming. I lament losing that carpool on a regular basis.
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Post by Nicole in TX on Oct 11, 2014 11:48:28 GMT
To me, I like to arrive 5 minutes before an event. If I have to sit about 15 minutes waiting for something to start, to me that is 15 minutes I could have spend doing something valuable. Waiting is not valuable use of my time.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Oct 11, 2014 12:37:05 GMT
My best carpool ever was with the principal of the elementary school my boys attended. You know the principal will be on time! She drove whoever out of our kids was going to her school and I drove whoever was in kindergarten or middle school. We did it for years. In fact, early on in our arrangement, I even dropped her daughter off at her babysitter's house for one year whenever the husband was out of town and couldn't take her.
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Post by kikinichole on Oct 11, 2014 12:44:59 GMT
I get it. I'm an 'if you're early you're on time person' and I don't think she was really criticizing the other parent as much as expressing how it made HER feel.
I get super stressed if, in my head, I should be leaving and we aren't. So waiting on people makes me a little bit crazy.
I have also always been one of those people who likes to give myself time to settle in. I hate rushing in right on time for seething to start. It makes me feel one step behind the rest of the day.
I don't think a car pool would work very well for me if my partner was cutting it too close. I'd be too stressed. Doesn't make either of us wrong.
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Post by happymom on Oct 11, 2014 13:00:46 GMT
I think some people think if it starts at 7:oo means pull into parking lot or drop off at 7. Even grown ups. If an events starts at 7. Park, walk In, maybe time to pay? go to seat, get settled etc.
i think people have to be specific with the 10 minutes early because some don't allow for that 10 minutes. Lateness drives me crazy
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 11, 2014 13:21:15 GMT
It depends on what "on time" means. For carpooling if I was to say we are leaving the designated meeting spot at 7:00am then that means, to me, that by 7:00am everyone's backpacks are loaded and all folks are buckled in and I am pulling out of the driveway at 7:00am. It does not mean we meet at 7.
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Post by ihaveonly1l on Oct 11, 2014 13:49:00 GMT
Getting dropped off or being in the parking lot at "start" time is late to me too. If the activity starts at 7:00, you should be ready at 7:00 not getting out of the car at 7:00-that would be late.
For many things you have to do a bit of prep to be ready (change, get out instrument, etc) so you have to be there a few minutes early, to be on time.
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Post by melanell on Oct 11, 2014 13:55:51 GMT
I strive to give us more time than we should need to get anywhere. You never know what might hold you up a minute or two here or there. That way you'll still be on time.
Plus, I don't enjoy hurrying about. I don't want to be the person having a mini fit in traffic because people or circumstances aren't allowing them to speed off to wherever they are heading so they can arrive just in time.
A buffer is a good thing to me, and if I was carpooling with people who just didn't believe in giving themselves a buffer so that they can go about things at peaceful pace, then that carpool wouldn't work for me.
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 11, 2014 13:56:35 GMT
Why would being early be a pain? If I was to be sitting in your driveway, or pulled up front, with my child 10 mins early but not knocking on your door or anything why is that a problem? If I dropped off my kid 10 mins early and expect you to watch them that's different that's not carpooling.
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Post by melanell on Oct 11, 2014 13:58:16 GMT
To me, if an event starts at 7, then you need to be at the place of the event (the exact location) and ready for it to start right at 7.
So if the school bell rings at 7am. You need to be able to enter the school at 7am.
If a show starts at 7pm, you need to be in your seat at 7pm.
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Post by melanell on Oct 11, 2014 14:05:34 GMT
To me, I like to arrive 5 minutes before an event. If I have to sit about 15 minutes waiting for something to start, to me that is 15 minutes I could have spend doing something valuable. Waiting is not valuable use of my time. I just bring something with me to do.  For instance, at DS's preschool (Which is also a day care for some families), for every 15 minutes you are late, there is an extra fee. Plus, I've been there and have seen kids start to get nervous when 1, 2, 3, 4 parents all troop in right at noon and they are all leaving with their kids and kids #5 & 6 haven't seen sign of their adults yet. I felt bad for them. So if I think i might not make it in time, I feel very stressed, and I like to minimize stress wherever possible. So right now, there is construction on approximately every other road in Pennsylvania, so it is taking me longer to get everywhere. Plus, out in the "country" you never know what you may have to stop for. I've lost count of how many times DH has pulled over to guide a neighboring cow off the road.  So I strive to hit the school parking lot 10 minutes early. Then I sit in my car and read for 10 minutes and enjoy my last bit of quiet before the whirling dervish is back with me.  I totally get that others don't want to waste a minute of their time. But I like a few minutes throughout the day when I can just "be" for a minute without having to be working on a to-do list or work or rushing here or there.  And I don't mind if those minutes are in the car. To me quiet time is never a waste. 
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