purplebee
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Post by purplebee on Aug 10, 2019 14:03:56 GMT
Why am I not surprised? Of course someone was paid off to help or at least turn their head.
Well, the swamp is drained of one more pos.
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IAmUnoriginal
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Aug 10, 2019 14:07:35 GMT
Something smells fishy. However, if he did somehow manage to pull this off without interference, my initial gut reaction stands — chicken shit MF’er. Money couldn’t buy him coping skills for finally getting nabbed.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 10, 2019 14:12:42 GMT
While the world is better off with one less predator, this is too convenient for some very powerful people. Why wasn't he on suicide watch? Did someone "help" him with his suicide? Sounds like some loose ends being tied up, to me. the comments under the news posts on Facebook are all blaming the Clintons
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 10, 2019 14:14:36 GMT
Why am I not surprised? Of course someone was paid off to help or at least turn their head. Well, the swamp is drained of one more pos. We were all surprised to wake up to see that Jeffery Epstein committed suicide....Imagine how surprised he was about it too... 😉
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 10, 2019 14:16:36 GMT
While the world is better off with one less predator, this is too convenient for some very powerful people. Why wasn't he on suicide watch? Did someone "help" him with his suicide? Sounds like some loose ends being tied up, to me. the comments under the news posts on Facebook are all blaming the Clintons I saw that too first thing...”oh how convenient for the Democrats...Clinton...those libs...” I wake up astounded that we see so much “backwards” gaslighting. But I remind myself that bots are out in full force now trying to control the narrative, and it’s worse than 2016.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 10, 2019 14:17:19 GMT
That was absolutely my first thought. He could traumatize all those girls and women for so many years but the minute he himself was in hot water....
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 10, 2019 14:18:38 GMT
While the world is better off with one less predator, this is too convenient for some very powerful people. Why wasn't he on suicide watch? Did someone "help" him with his suicide? Sounds like some loose ends being tied up, to me. the comments under the news posts on Facebook are all blaming the Clintons Well... I'm sure Hillary's emails had *something* to do with it!
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 10, 2019 14:27:41 GMT
Supposedly he was on watch.... Help? likely!! CNN legal analyst Paul Callan.. Federal criminal case is done... Civil cases can go forward... So, I’m guessing that means that the women have to be the ones who prosecute - so that they can have their credibility, etc., all questioned and splashed across the papers? That since the federal government is stepping out, unless there are enough women brave enough to weather the backlash that it will all go away? Or am I missing something? Criminal case against Epstein has to be done. He’s dead. If they have information to prosecute others based on what they found through the Epstein investigation they can still go forward on those. His death obviously makes those investigations more difficult
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Post by gar on Aug 10, 2019 14:29:33 GMT
He knew too much. Highly doubtful he did this to himself. He was on suicide watch! Dead men tell no tales! I usually avoid conspiracies, but don't you think some powerful men will sleep well tonight?? Hopefully they might still be wondering what could still happen in the courts.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Aug 10, 2019 14:31:51 GMT
While the world is better off with one less predator, this is too convenient for some very powerful people. Why wasn't he on suicide watch? Did someone "help" him with his suicide? Sounds like some loose ends being tied up, to me. the comments under the news posts on Facebook are all blaming the Clintons Yeah pretty much every comment I have seen on FB is blaming it on the Clintons. Cuz yeah, I'm suuuuuurrrrreee that Bill Clinton is the ONLY high profile person in the US involved with Epstein.
What a bunch of f*ing morons.
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peaname
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Post by peaname on Aug 10, 2019 14:33:38 GMT
Watching him be brought to justice is one more thing he stole from his victims. So sad.
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Post by elaine on Aug 10, 2019 14:38:30 GMT
So, I’m guessing that means that the women have to be the ones who prosecute - so that they can have their credibility, etc., all questioned and splashed across the papers? That since the federal government is stepping out, unless there are enough women brave enough to weather the backlash that it will all go away? Or am I missing something? Criminal case against Epstein has to be done. He’s dead. If they have information to prosecute others based on what they found through the Epstein investigation they can still go forward on those. His death obviously makes those investigations more difficult Yes, I understand that. But that doesn’t answer my questions about how civil cases go forward and if means the women having to put themselves forward and out there for being victimized all over again?
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 10, 2019 14:41:07 GMT
Criminal case against Epstein has to be done. He’s dead. If they have information to prosecute others based on what they found through the Epstein investigation they can still go forward on those. His death obviously makes those investigations more difficult Yes, I understand that. But that doesn’t answer my questions about how civil cases go forward and if means the women having to put themselves forward and out there for being victimized all over again? Yes, the women would have to put themselves out there and pursue the case. They would have to sue his estate. The only good thin foe them is the burden of proof is lower in civil court than criminal court
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Post by elaine on Aug 10, 2019 14:49:33 GMT
Yes, I understand that. But that doesn’t answer my questions about how civil cases go forward and if means the women having to put themselves forward and out there for being victimized all over again? Yes, the women would have to put themselves out there and pursue the case. They would have to sue his estate. The only good thin foe them is the burden of proof is lower in civil court than criminal court Yeah, I’m guessing that the consequences of being repeated sexually assaulted as teenage girls by middle-aged men has left few of them with the mental fortitude to pursue what will be *very* public trials. It would be one thing if there was also a federal case going on, where the government was the prosecutor, to back them up, but another to have to do it “solo.” I consider myself fairly strong and I wouldn’t do it. I think that there are so many powerful men with too much on the line that it would be naive to think that those women who do prosecute won’t have their lives further ruined in a variety of ways, if they all don’t all mysteriously “commit suicide” just like Epstein, that is. I understand WHY the federal case has to be dropped, but I am disagreeing with the notion that much justice will be achieved by the few civil suits that will still go forward.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 10, 2019 14:58:55 GMT
I wonder how those jail/prison cells are monitored? You would think each one would have a camera but maybe not?
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 10, 2019 14:59:28 GMT
He saved the taxpayers a lot of money. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 10, 2019 15:05:12 GMT
Yes, the women would have to put themselves out there and pursue the case. They would have to sue his estate. The only good thin foe them is the burden of proof is lower in civil court than criminal court Yeah, I’m guessing that the consequences of being repeated sexually assaulted as teenage girls by middle-aged men has left few of them with the mental fortitude to pursue what will be *very* public trials. It would be one thing if there was also a federal case going on, where the government was the prosecutor, to back them up, but another to have to do it “solo.” I consider myself fairly strong and I wouldn’t do it. I think that there are so many powerful men with too much on the line that it would be naive to think that those women who do prosecute won’t have their lives further ruined in a variety of ways, if they all don’t all mysteriously “commit suicide” just like Epstein, that is. I understand WHY the federal case has to be dropped, but I am disagreeing with the notion that much justice will be achieved by the few civil suits that will still go forward. I agree with you. It will be very difficult if they decide to pursue it. I don’t think I would do it either. I don’t think those girls will ever get justice. I think the most justice they will get will be if the media can get their hands on the material that was gained through the Epstein investigation.
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Post by katniss on Aug 10, 2019 15:19:35 GMT
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tuesdaysgone
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Post by tuesdaysgone on Aug 10, 2019 15:27:36 GMT
It's such bullshit. How was he not on suicide watch after the last event? I would not describe myself as a conspiracy theorist but gosh, there seem to be so many powerful people who are better off now that he's dead. This was my first thought as well. Let's hope and pray the investigation continues and these cockroaches are exposed to the light.
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 10, 2019 15:30:27 GMT
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Prince Andrew (a free loadading waste of space) has been accused of groping a woman at Epstein's apartment years ago, In newly released documents. He'll be heaving a sigh of relief no doubt.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 10, 2019 15:30:55 GMT
He was taken out. Period. The only thing that will go forward now is the fight over his money. All other investigations are dead along with him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 15:39:27 GMT
He died by suicide this AM.... DH woke me up to tell me. I shot out of bed in anger and disbelief. I didn't buy it when he supposedly attempted suicide last week and i don't buy that he committed suicide today!! QUESTIONS: Since he was on suicide watch, they were watching his cell 24/7. Shouldn't it be on tape then??? Epstein is another narcissistic bully who has fought anything in his way for decades. He began with nothing, and no degree and wound up with supposed wealth. I doubt highly that he just gave up and did this. Seems more likely that this was orchestrated by someone with the most fear of what would come out (Trump?? Russians?? Well known people??) Damn!!!!!!
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Aug 10, 2019 15:43:50 GMT
If there is a hell, I hope he is in the worst section of it. Hopefully with seats next to him reserved for trump and Moscow Mitch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 15:46:23 GMT
Oh, and let me add that I hope that if evidence was seized that points to involvement of other men in high places - including Bill Clinton - that prosecutors go after them in court. I'd be freaking shocked if Epstein had something on Clinton. I do know of their trips to Africa, etc., but Clinton had aides with him. The ONLY time that Clinton met with Epstein was one time in Epstein's NYC townhouse. I really doubt that Clinton was into underage girls. The "man" with the most worry was Trump. There's a ton of info on this connection. There are quite a few women who could relay the details. I pray it finally does come out soon!!!!
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 10, 2019 15:46:23 GMT
I don’t understand why there will be no further investigations. The government understands he didn’t act alone, why wouldn’t they continue to investigate all the people who not only assisted him but those who engaged in the illegal activities with the females?
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janeliz
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Post by janeliz on Aug 10, 2019 15:56:41 GMT
While the world is better off with one less predator, this is too convenient for some very powerful people. Why wasn't he on suicide watch? Did someone "help" him with his suicide? Sounds like some loose ends being tied up, to me. the comments under the news posts on Facebook are all blaming the Clintons I was just gonna say...the first post I saw when I pulled up Facebook today was from a pro-Trumper saying that “of course” the Clintons had him killed. Suuuuure, cause Clinton was the only high profile, powerful person linked to Epstein. 😒
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Post by nlwilkins on Aug 10, 2019 15:57:00 GMT
According to ABC he was not currently on suicide watch. "His death came less than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his cell at the federal prison in Lower Manhattan, with marks on his neck that appeared to be self-inflicted, sources told ABC News. He was placed on suicide watch following the July 23 incident, but was not on suicide watch at this time of his death."Also it sounds like the feds are not through with his case yet. "Law enforcement sources told ABC News the criminal case against Epstein will not end with his death. The FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan will continue to evaluate the evidence and hear from his accusers, the sources said. "link to ABC story
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 16:01:58 GMT
He WAS on suicide watch, so I guess that means they watched him suicide himself. Or helped. Anyone know where our orange leader was early this morning? Most likely person to want Epstein to shut up permanently right now!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 16:08:25 GMT
I can't get the bit that he was on suicide watch and managed to HANG himself. Surely if he was on watch wouldn't they have removed EVERYTHING from his cell and on his person that could possible be used to carry it out? Doesn't make sense that he was able to do this. He was on suicide watch (still) and they were watching him or the feed of his cell 24/7. They removed his roomate after the suicide attempt and supposedly took everything out of his room, but they say that inmates sometimes hang themselves with their prison garb. Still, t hat does take time and this POS shd hv been watched every minute!!!!! Again, wondering if he got paid a visit early this morning by a Trump goon.... He had the most to lose. Maybe the SDNY will get the video of his room and piece it together?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 10, 2019 16:31:03 GMT
He was taken out. Period. The only thing that will go forward now is the fight over his money. All other investigations are dead along with him. This may not Be exactly accurate. I’ve been reading a few other lawyers posting and they are saying that while the claim against JE is now “dead” (sorry), any of the others named could be pursued for their criminal activity.
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