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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 17:12:05 GMT
The debate about abolishing the Electoral College rages on.
Here is Rep Dan Crenshaw take which prompted the question..
”Claim: Abolishing the electoral college would force elections to “involve every region" not just competitive states.
Not true. Without the electoral college, why ever spend time in NH? NV? IA? All time would be spent in the 10 most populated states to get a candidate to 51%”
Maybe he’s right.
IMO there are a lot of reasons a presidential candidate will visit a state. Not many Republicans come to CA these days. But if I was a Republican in this state I still would be able to find out about the Republicans running for President and vote accordingly. As it stands right now with the Electoral College, Republican votes don’t count in CA.
Abolish the Electoral College and they will just like all the other votes in states where they are in the minority party.
But the Republicans are too chicken to take a chance that it would and could make a difference and instead continue to stack the deck in their favor by hanging on to the Electoral College a long with other things like gerrymandering and voter suppression of folks who could vote as a Democrat.
But to answer my question. No, I don’t need a Presidential candidate to visit my state to get my vote.
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Post by Pahina722 on Sept 1, 2019 17:21:17 GMT
In my PORTION of the state, only Republicans visit, so it’s irrelevant. It’s also frustrating because the overwhelming conservative majority coupled with the way electoral college votes are earned (all or nothing) means that my vote essentially doesn’t count in my portion of Florida. Heck, that moron Matt Gaetz is my rep. 🤮
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Post by lucyg on Sept 1, 2019 17:44:42 GMT
I have no love for the Electoral College at this point. But it’s not going anywhere for many decades, if ever. Republicans will hang onto it by the fingernails. It’s the only way they can win anymore.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 1, 2019 17:49:53 GMT
Coming here doesn't sway my mind.
Now, for a smaller campaign where I could actually vote for either candidate? If I could go and listen and talk and ask questions, that might change my mind.
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Post by Princess Amy on Sept 1, 2019 17:54:16 GMT
Well, they A.L.L. visit Iowa, clearly. But, do they truly care about our economy? Our struggles in rural America? Nope. They talk the talk to get a vote . We never see them again. I don’t pretend to think they care. I focus more on local legislators.
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Post by scrapngranny on Sept 1, 2019 20:16:25 GMT
I don’t live in a swing state, so I doubt anyone will visit here.
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Post by elaine on Sept 1, 2019 20:20:05 GMT
Everyone comes here, because at least half of them (if they are in Congress) have homes either here or close by in MD. What goes on in the federal government is local news here, so I am saturated with coverage.
Whether or not I see them speak has no impact on my vote.
I’d much prefer that we switch from the Electoral College to the popular vote, but the GOP will never willingly let that happen, so I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime.
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Post by Merge on Sept 1, 2019 20:30:45 GMT
Bullshit. The vast majority of voters never see a single candidate in person, regardless of the state in which they live.
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Post by cmpeter on Sept 2, 2019 1:27:52 GMT
We aren’t a swing state, so no they don’t need to come here. Honestly, I feel it’s a waste of resources.
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Post by lisae on Sept 2, 2019 1:34:53 GMT
I have never seen a presidential candidate, or senatorial, or gubernatorial or really any candidate other than a local election in person so it makes no difference to me if presidential candidates ever set foot here. The only thing I might go to if I ever had the chance was a presidential debate if one were held close to me but since we have no state college near here, that isn't likely. I did try to see a senatorial candidate 2 years ago but she had car trouble and missed the event so that was a wasted morning.
State visits are mostly photo ops and publicity stunts to show that the candidate identifies with 'the common folk' such as when they walk through a factory or visit the state fair. It tells me nothing about the candidate's character nor what he/she will do when in office.
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 2, 2019 3:49:14 GMT
No. I think it’s insane to expect a candidate to physically visit every single state. Just read up on my states most pressing issues and tell me how you plan to help fix them at some point while you’re campaigning. Flint isn’t the only city in America with undrinkable water, and they won’t be the last. Tell me how you’re going to help them get safe water, fix the problem, and put in safety nets to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Tell me how you are going to fix the infrastructure problem. Tell me how you’re going to boost jobs and the economy. Tell me your plans on education, mental health, services for special needs persons, and women’s rights. Tell me your plans to run this country successfully FOR EVERYONE.
If I agree with your plans and your platform I will vote for you. Whether or not you have visited my state will not even be a factor at all. It will literally be the very last thing I think of about a candidate.
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Post by ntsf on Sept 2, 2019 5:28:48 GMT
they come here for fundraising. I have met several presidential candidates, but I vote on issues, and attitude.. and that doesn't change whether I meet them or not.. met John Anderson back in the day....
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