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Post by chlerbie on Sept 7, 2019 19:56:17 GMT
I just noticed at my small town local farmer's market this week that they have a program that if one buys fresh produce there, they can both use their food card and get credit back on it by doing so. A win for both the farmer and the consumer.
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Post by birdgate on Sept 7, 2019 20:38:58 GMT
Is everything in the dollar store still only a dollar in the US? .99 cent store only has started selling stuff way above a dollar. Even Daiso has stuff above the usual $1.50. If their stuff is over a dollar they usually put it on blast like the 2.99 Tide and dog beds going on sale next week. Too bad '99 Only' can't be in other parts of the country besides CA. They have a produce section. My favorite's are Everything Bagels, jugs of Gold Peak, Oui Yogurt, Jelly Belly Irregulars, Cracker Barrel cheese, mushrooms, blueberries, tortillas, salted dark chocolate from France, organic tampons from Israel, and the bags of walnuts. One Christmas they had the giant Toberlone and blocks of Challege butter for a dollar. Food companies market and release new teaser products there all the time. We also have Dollar Tree but it's mostly filled with household goods, theater style candy, and party supply stuff. No Dollar General. Never been to a bodega before but I'm sure people are shopping for brand names like Goya and specialty items.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 20:56:10 GMT
.99 cent store only has started selling stuff way above a dollar. Even Daiso has stuff above the usual $1.50. If their stuff is over a dollar they usually put it on blast like the 2.99 Tide and dog beds going on sale next week. Too bad '99 Only' can't be in other parts of the country besides CA. They have a produce section. My favorite's are Everything Bagels, jugs of Gold Peak, Oui Yogurt, Jelly Belly Irregulars, Cracker Barrel cheese, mushrooms, blueberries, tortillas, salted dark chocolate from France, organic tampons from Israel, and the bags of walnuts. One Christmas they had the giant Toberlone and blocks of Challege butter for a dollar. Food companies market and release new teaser products there all the time. We also have Dollar Tree but it's mostly filled with household goods, theater style candy, and party supply stuff. No Dollar General. Never been to a bodega before but I'm sure people are shopping for brand names like Goya and specialty items. Bodega is simple a small market. If you have been to any convenience store you have been to a bodega
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Post by birdgate on Sept 7, 2019 21:03:45 GMT
If their stuff is over a dollar they usually put it on blast like the 2.99 Tide and dog beds going on sale next week. Too bad '99 Only' can't be in other parts of the country besides CA. They have a produce section. My favorite's are Everything Bagels, jugs of Gold Peak, Oui Yogurt, Jelly Belly Irregulars, Cracker Barrel cheese, mushrooms, blueberries, tortillas, salted dark chocolate from France, organic tampons from Israel, and the bags of walnuts. One Christmas they had the giant Toberlone and blocks of Challege butter for a dollar. Food companies market and release new teaser products there all the time. We also have Dollar Tree but it's mostly filled with household goods, theater style candy, and party supply stuff. No Dollar General. Never been to a bodega before but I'm sure people are shopping for brand names like Goya and specialty items. Bodega is simple a small market. If you have been to any convenience store you have been to a bodega Bodega is simple a small market. If you have been to any convenience store you have been to a bodega Bodega is simple a small market. If you have been to any convenience store you have been to a bodega Bodega is simple a small market. If you have been to any convenience store you have been to a bodega Bodega is simple a small market. If you have been to any convenience store you have been to a bodega I always thought it was an East Coast thing. A Latino market. I guess I had one then. My dog used to go in there and steal off the Hostess rack.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 21:10:42 GMT
Crap food is almost always cheaper than nutritious food no matter where you buy it. Just tool down the cereal aisle in the grocery store. The boxes that have the least nutrients are the cheapest. Or $2 for an entire box of 6-8 junk food cakes or $2 for 2-3 apples. Even if your have access to produce that doesn’t really solve the nutrient issue, Iceberg lettuce $1/ head vs spinach $3/bag It’s always pissed me off And no, i don’t think it assumes poor parents are ignorant, it assumes that they will choose for their children to feel full even if there are no nutrients available. It’s rather sad to have choose between feeling fed & actually eating nutrients. But that is often the case of the choices parents face. The problem is that people today grew up hating good veggies and they don’t realize that the spinach ( and other veggies) can be eaten raw and will fill and empty tummy faster than the less dense iceberg lettuce. ( I have nothing against iceberg lettuce, it is yummy, but with almost no fiber I can’t eat it because it gets soggy in my digestive system. ) People need to be taught how to prepare food.
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Post by cecilia on Sept 7, 2019 21:51:40 GMT
One of the problems not addressed in this article is how expensive fresh fruit and vegetables can be. And most people don't know how to prep dishes well with them, not everyone obviously. There is lots of research out there that the poor eat a particularly bad diet due to the lack of availability of fresh and healthy produce. I had a sociology professor say something along the lines of "Lower income people want more calories for their money."
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Post by birdgate on Sept 7, 2019 21:58:29 GMT
80 plus percent of any market is going to be filled with addictive cheap high fructose syrup, preservatives, and additives, etc. Monsanto chemicals were even found in oatmeal recently. Garlic from China peeled by prisoners sitting on the floor in crowded rooms using their teeth to peel the garlic because their nails are all worn out but that's a whole other rabbit hole to go down.
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Post by jubejubes on Sept 7, 2019 22:40:37 GMT
Where I live, in Southwestern Ontario, Canada, the Dollarama, Dollar Tree stores seem to be located where there is a grocery store in the same plaza.
Both of the $stores that I mentioned have few items for $1.00. Most are $1.25 and higher. I haven't seen refrigerated foods but packaged and canned food, along with an abundance of empty caloric foods.
When in California, I LOVE going into the 99 cent store. So many different things! It has been a few years since I've been there, but, hopefully soon I will return.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 1:24:09 GMT
One of the problems not addressed in this article is how expensive fresh fruit and vegetables can be. And most people don't know how to prep dishes well with them, not everyone obviously. There is lots of research out there that the poor eat a particularly bad diet due to the lack of availability of fresh and healthy produce. I had a sociology professor say something along the lines of "Lower income people want more calories for their money." 👋 I am waving at you 👋 How are you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 1:30:41 GMT
One of the problems not addressed in this article is how expensive fresh fruit and vegetables can be. And most people don't know how to prep dishes well with them, not everyone obviously. There is lots of research out there that the poor eat a particularly bad diet due to the lack of availability of fresh and healthy produce. I had a sociology professor say something along the lines of "Lower income people want more calories for their money." I have also read That “poor” people want “rich” people food( processed with tons of additives) This really bothers me because what is considered poor people food is better for you. Plus to make good food you need a place to store it and to prepare it.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 10, 2019 13:12:26 GMT
I think much more effort needs to be expended on educating people when they are younger about basic food preparation, basic car knowledge, basic finances. Very few of us need to know algebra in real life, but we all need to understand interest rates, credit cards, bank fees, nutrition, and how to prepare a basic meal or how to read a recipe. In my experience, most people do not know how to prepare basic or slightly beyond basic meals. Their parents did not teach them and in many cases, their parents' parents did not teach either. People are also inclined to think -- for whatever reason -- that all food has equal nutritional value. As a small example, I was trying to explain to a mother -- who has a college education -- that pickles do NOT have the same nutritional value as other fruits and vegetables. She was convinced of it because her mother had told her that when she was a kid. She also thought hot dogs four times a week was just as good as grilled chicken or beef -- "it's all meat, what's the difference?" I can only speak for my own kids’ education but they do have classes that teach these things. However, I think that, as with other subjects, practice helps you retain. If you learn things in school but don’t carry it over into your daily life it isn’t going to stick.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 10, 2019 13:16:19 GMT
One of the problems not addressed in this article is how expensive fresh fruit and vegetables can be. And most people don't know how to prep dishes well with them, not everyone obviously. There is lots of research out there that the poor eat a particularly bad diet due to the lack of availability of fresh and healthy produce. I had a sociology professor say something along the lines of "Lower income people want more calories for their money." The problem (among many) is that low quality food will leave you wanting more than if you ate smaller quantities of high quality food. But people don’t understand that.
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Post by ginacivey on Sept 10, 2019 13:23:53 GMT
A dollar general store popping up in my very small town was literally LIFE CHANGING for many people
and it had nothing to do with pricing but everything to do with location
prior to 2015 if i ran out of toliet paper i had two options - drive 20 minutes to a walmart or grocery store or pay the convenience price at the gas station
our store has made shopping so much easier for so many - especially the homebound or those with unreliable/non existent transportation - we don't have any public transportation here - no taxis and no uber
once a Dollar General has been in a location for five years they can carry produce - we've got one more year
i can not think of one reason why i wouldn't want our DG
sure - butter is more expensive - but i'm not driving 40 minutes round trip to pick it up
for a lot of people - going to town is out of the way - unless they work in that direction
there are weeks in which i never drive out of a 5 mile radius
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 10, 2019 13:46:22 GMT
Something the city councilwoman from my city failed to mention In that article is how full size grocery stores have repeatedly opened in that low income area of town and all have had to close within a year because they were constantly robbed. Like every day would have a burglary during closed hours or cashiers held up at gun point, or people just stole the items themselves. Walmart Neighborhood Market, Piggly Wiggle, Homeland and a local grocer all shut down because of crime So if the Dollar stores are willing to deal with that and the people in that area have access to food then let them. I mean it sucks, I wish the people of all areas of the town had better access to a true grocery store with fresh food.
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Post by Merge on Sept 10, 2019 14:10:21 GMT
Something the city councilwoman from my city failed to mention In that article is how full size grocery stores have repeatedly opened in that low income area of town and all have had to close within a year because they were constantly robbed. Like every day would have a burglary during closed hours or cashiers held up at gun point, or people just stole the items themselves. Walmart Neighborhood Market, Piggly Wiggle, Homeland and a local grocer all shut down because of crime So if the Dollar stores are willing to deal with that and the people in that area have access to food then let them. I mean it sucks, I wish the people of all areas of the town had better access to a true grocery store with fresh food. I’m surprised the stores didn’t hire more security? I guess the margins are too small and it would have eaten into their profits. The Kroger near us serves a lot of low income people from apartments nearby, and there is always at least one armed guard. The store is very busy and has been there for a long time. Honestly, if money was no object, at this point in my life I’d like to travel around the city teaching people from all backgrounds how to cook simple, healthy, tasty food. There are already groups that take fresh produce trucks into underserved areas, but they consistently say that many folks don’t know how to prepare what they get. The high salt, fat and sugar contents in processed food have also ruined so many tastebuds for the normal flavor of properly seasoned food - and that’s true in all walks of life.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 10, 2019 14:24:55 GMT
Something the city councilwoman from my city failed to mention In that article is how full size grocery stores have repeatedly opened in that low income area of town and all have had to close within a year because they were constantly robbed. Like every day would have a burglary during closed hours or cashiers held up at gun point, or people just stole the items themselves. Walmart Neighborhood Market, Piggly Wiggle, Homeland and a local grocer all shut down because of crime So if the Dollar stores are willing to deal with that and the people in that area have access to food then let them. I mean it sucks, I wish the people of all areas of the town had better access to a true grocery store with fresh food. I’m surprised the stores didn’t hire more security? I guess the margins are too small and it would have eaten into their profits. The Kroger near us serves a lot of low income people from apartments nearby, and there is always at least one armed guard. The store is very busy and has been there for a long time. Honestly, if money was no object, at this point in my life I’d like to travel around the city teaching people from all backgrounds how to cook simple, healthy, tasty food. There are already groups that take fresh produce trucks into underserved areas, but they consistently say that many folks don’t know how to prepare what they get. The high salt, fat and sugar contents in processed food have also ruined so many tastebuds for the normal flavor of properly seasoned food - and that’s true in all walks of life. I know the Walmart had security because it was on the news when he was shot in the parking lot.
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Post by creativegirl on Sept 10, 2019 18:03:50 GMT
This is so interesting to me because my city has 3 Dollar Trees and one 99 cent store - every single one of them is next to a full service grocery store and has been for a long time. Lots of folks will start at the dollar stores for what is cheaper there, then head over to finish up at the grocery store (I know at some point one of the dollar stores even had a sign that said, "Shop us first!")
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Post by M~ on Sept 10, 2019 20:55:55 GMT
Crap food is almost always cheaper than nutritious food no matter where you buy it. Just tool down the cereal aisle in the grocery store. The boxes that have the least nutrients are the cheapest. Or $2 for an entire box of 6-8 junk food cakes or $2 for 2-3 apples. Even if your have access to produce that doesn’t really solve the nutrient issue, Iceberg lettuce $1/ head vs spinach $3/bag It’s always pissed me off And no, i don’t think it assumes poor parents are ignorant, it assumes that they will choose for their children to feel full even if there are no nutrients available. It’s rather sad to have choose between feeling fed & actually eating nutrients. But that is often the case of the choices parents face. The problem is that people today grew up hating good veggies and they don’t realize that the spinach ( and other veggies) can be eaten raw and will fill and empty tummy faster than the less dense iceberg lettuce. ( I have nothing against iceberg lettuce, it is yummy, but with almost no fiber I can’t eat it because it gets soggy in my digestive system. ) People need to be taught how to prepare food. I’m sorry. I grew up on welfare and never ate processed foods. I always ate homemade food. What I do remember is that my grandmother, my two sisters and I would walk 1 hour down hill in the freezing cold and walk 2 hours uphill in the freezing cold hauling groceries. My grandmother’s church group members would drive us to the store whenever the weather didn’t allow us to walk. Your posts on this thread on “budgeting” “food preparation” and “meal planning” make me think that you’ve never been poor. If you are poor and lack transportation budgeting, meal planning and food preparation are immediately limited. You don’t have the luxury of planning ahead because you lack the means to haul a shit ton of food. You can’t afford to go from store to store looking for the best deals and you probably don’t have the space to store it all. So, don’t think poor people aren’t educated enough to understand that a 75 cent bread roll is more expensive than buying a 2.00 loaf of bread, but poverty limits ALL of your choices.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 21:37:37 GMT
The problem is that people today grew up hating good veggies and they don’t realize that the spinach ( and other veggies) can be eaten raw and will fill and empty tummy faster than the less dense iceberg lettuce. ( I have nothing against iceberg lettuce, it is yummy, but with almost no fiber I can’t eat it because it gets soggy in my digestive system. ) People need to be taught how to prepare food. I’m sorry. I grew up on welfare and never ate processed foods. I always ate homemade food. What I do remember is that my grandmother, my two sisters and I would walk 1 hour down hill in the freezing cold and walk 2 hours uphill in the freezing cold hauling groceries. My grandmother’s church group members would drive us to the store whenever the weather didn’t allow us to walk. Your posts on this thread on “budgeting” “food preparation” and “meal planning” make me think that you’ve never been poor. If you are poor and lack transportation budgeting, meal planning and food preparation are immediately limited. You don’t have the luxury of planning ahead because you lack the means to haul a shit ton of food. You can’t afford to go from store to store looking for the best deals and you probably don’t have the space to store it all. So, don’t think poor people aren’t educated enough to understand that a 75 cent bread roll is more expensive than buying a 2.00 loaf of bread, but poverty limits ALL of your choices. You are correct I have never lacked transportation , but we were not flush when we first got married. The only reason I didn’t get food stamps is because we both own our cars and I was not willing to lie about that. We did get wic and that got us through until we got money for food. I did learn a lot about budgeting and how to make a lot of meals using just a sack of potatoes or a head of cabbage.
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Post by mallie on Sept 10, 2019 22:41:04 GMT
Something the city councilwoman from my city failed to mention In that article is how full size grocery stores have repeatedly opened in that low income area of town and all have had to close within a year because they were constantly robbed. Like every day would have a burglary during closed hours or cashiers held up at gun point, or people just stole the items themselves. Walmart Neighborhood Market, Piggly Wiggle, Homeland and a local grocer all shut down because of crime So if the Dollar stores are willing to deal with that and the people in that area have access to food then let them. I mean it sucks, I wish the people of all areas of the town had better access to a true grocery store with fresh food. I’m surprised the stores didn’t hire more security? I guess the margins are too small and it would have eaten into their profits. The Kroger near us serves a lot of low income people from apartments nearby, and there is always at least one armed guard. The store is very busy and has been there for a long time. Honestly, if money was no object, at this point in my life I’d like to travel around the city teaching people from all backgrounds how to cook simple, healthy, tasty food. There are already groups that take fresh produce trucks into underserved areas, but they consistently say that many folks don’t know how to prepare what they get. The high salt, fat and sugar contents in processed food have also ruined so many tastebuds for the normal flavor of properly seasoned food - and that’s true in all walks of life. Part of the issue with security is what, by law, security staff are allowed to do. Here, security is forbidden from asking or saying ANYTHING to the customer about merchandise they are carrying out the store. You cannot say ANYTHING about it until they have crossed the threshold -- by which time, they have taken off running. So what is the point? We had people loading up CARTS full of merch and running out the store with it. When we called the cops, the first thing the cops say is, "You didn't say anything to them did you? Because I would have to write you up for breaking the law." Oh, fuck it. Just fuck it. So I absolutely see why stores just close. Not worth it.
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Post by Merge on Sept 10, 2019 22:47:42 GMT
The problem is that people today grew up hating good veggies and they don’t realize that the spinach ( and other veggies) can be eaten raw and will fill and empty tummy faster than the less dense iceberg lettuce. ( I have nothing against iceberg lettuce, it is yummy, but with almost no fiber I can’t eat it because it gets soggy in my digestive system. ) People need to be taught how to prepare food. I’m sorry. I grew up on welfare and never ate processed foods. I always ate homemade food. What I do remember is that my grandmother, my two sisters and I would walk 1 hour down hill in the freezing cold and walk 2 hours uphill in the freezing cold hauling groceries. My grandmother’s church group members would drive us to the store whenever the weather didn’t allow us to walk. Your posts on this thread on “budgeting” “food preparation” and “meal planning” make me think that you’ve never been poor. If you are poor and lack transportation budgeting, meal planning and food preparation are immediately limited. You don’t have the luxury of planning ahead because you lack the means to haul a shit ton of food. You can’t afford to go from store to store looking for the best deals and you probably don’t have the space to store it all. So, don’t think poor people aren’t educated enough to understand that a 75 cent bread roll is more expensive than buying a 2.00 loaf of bread, but poverty limits ALL of your choices. I think it's safe to say that the problem is multi-faceted, and includes all the things that have been mentioned here. And yes, I have been poor and my mom grew up absolutely poor. Eleven kids and alcoholic dad with intermittent self-employment poor. Lack of transportation, lack of funds to buy more than one night's meal, AND not knowing how to turn the food pantry box into a palatable meal all play into it.
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Post by freebird on Sept 10, 2019 22:50:22 GMT
But... Dollar General is not a "dollar store". I wonder if the higher ups were confused. We have 2 here and often you can get lower cost goods there than even at Walmart. They don't carry produce but they do carry canned fruits and veggies and that's SOMETHING. Here we complain about food deserts in low income areas and when someone raises their hand they run them off. Makes no sense to me. How about giving them an incentive to carry produce instead of telling them to eff off?
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Post by ginacivey on Sept 10, 2019 22:59:45 GMT
How about giving them an incentive to carry produce instead of telling them to eff off? they can after five years we have one more year my daughters DG carries produce and it's wonderful - especially if you live forever from a real grocery store gina
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