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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 7:55:46 GMT
Seems rather strange that they only disqualified her and yet the rest of the team were all wearing the same swimsuit. Makes one wonder what the true reason was to disqualify her. I agree - it was school issued and it wasn't like she modified the suit - perhaps her bottom is wider than some other girls - who knows - but if the suit was issued by the school and none of her team mates were disqualified, she shouldn't have been either. That wasn't really what I was thinking of. Perhaps she's "won too many times" in the mind of some people. Competitive sports pulls out all sort of nastiness in others. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 12:10:58 GMT
And nobody questions why the male ref was watching a teenager’s ass so intently?
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 11, 2019 12:16:21 GMT
It's ridiculous. So she bared a little butt cheek. I saw butt cheeks under short shorts at the farm supply store.
I am sick and tired of women and girls being body shamed.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 11, 2019 14:26:41 GMT
And nobody questions why the male ref was watching a teenager’s ass so intently? I think it was a female ref. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 14:44:39 GMT
And nobody questions why the male ref was watching a teenager’s ass so intently? I think it was a female ref. Thank you clearing that up. |
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Post by lucyg on Sept 11, 2019 14:51:32 GMT
I think it was a female ref. Thank you clearing that up. Not that a female ref couldn’t be ogling a girl’s butt, too. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 11, 2019 15:04:24 GMT
Thank you clearing that up. Not that a female ref couldn’t be ogling a girl’s butt, too. And also - women are often the worst critics and shamers of other women and girls. Misogyny is not confined to males. Women have been conditioned to align themselves with the male power base for their own protection and advancement, and that often means disparaging other women who don’t fit the male-dominated mold. |
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Post by workingclassdog on Sept 11, 2019 15:10:51 GMT
It was school issued... I swear this stuff drives me nuts. Glad to see it was overturned.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 11, 2019 19:01:57 GMT
Not that a female ref couldn’t be ogling a girl’s butt, too. And also - women are often the worst critics and shamers of other women and girls. Misogyny is not confined to males. Women have been conditioned to align themselves with the male power base for their own protection and advancement, and that often means disparaging other women who don’t fit the male-dominated mold. I don’t like to see girls/women with their butt cheeks showing in public. I also don’t like when men wear their pants sagging so low that you can see most of their underwear. It isn’t about sexism. It’s about looking presentable. As for the swimsuit—swimsuits are notorious for riding up. I doubt the girl intentionally wore it in a way that was “not as it was intended” the way some of the comments said. If the league has a problem with that happening, they should design suits that would reduce the chances. Maybe something with boyshort type bottoms? |
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Post by hop2 on Sept 11, 2019 19:45:17 GMT
Who chose the size? While my sport uniform was ‘school issued’ I had to fill out a paper with the expected size.
And yeah, can we stop policing women’s bodies.
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Post by janeliz on Sept 11, 2019 19:52:15 GMT
I’m starting to hate the word “inappropriate” Blech.
It’s a pool, not a church. Competitive high school swimmers prefer a tighter fitting suit because it can reduce drag. Some boys wear the jammers and some wear the tiny Speedo style, but the girls’ racing styles simply don’t cover much. And that’s ok. They’re athletes.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 11, 2019 19:58:33 GMT
Yay!! They got this one right!!
I’m glad that they are also revoking/letting go of the judge, as they determined she had been targeting these girls for the past year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 20:39:01 GMT
Not that a female ref couldn’t be ogling a girl’s butt, too. And also - women are often the worst critics and shamers of other women and girls. Misogyny is not confined to males. Women have been conditioned to align themselves with the male power base for their own protection and advancement, and that often means disparaging other women who don’t fit the male-dominated mold. Aunt Lydia. Taking what tiny scraps of power the patriarchy throws them. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 11, 2019 22:50:29 GMT
And also - women are often the worst critics and shamers of other women and girls. Misogyny is not confined to males. Women have been conditioned to align themselves with the male power base for their own protection and advancement, and that often means disparaging other women who don’t fit the male-dominated mold. I don’t like to see girls/women with their butt cheeks showing in public. I also don’t like when men wear their pants sagging so low that you can see most of their underwear. It isn’t about sexism. It’s about looking presentable. As for the swimsuit—swimsuits are notorious for riding up. I doubt the girl intentionally wore it in a way that was “not as it was intended” the way some of the comments said. If the league has a problem with that happening, they should design suits that would reduce the chances. Maybe something with boyshort type bottoms? “Don’t like to see” does not have to equal “am going to disqualify a winning swimmer because I didn’t like it.” That’s where the misogyny comes in. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 11, 2019 23:16:15 GMT
I don’t like to see girls/women with their butt cheeks showing in public. I also don’t like when men wear their pants sagging so low that you can see most of their underwear. It isn’t about sexism. It’s about looking presentable. As for the swimsuit—swimsuits are notorious for riding up. I doubt the girl intentionally wore it in a way that was “not as it was intended” the way some of the comments said. If the league has a problem with that happening, they should design suits that would reduce the chances. Maybe something with boyshort type bottoms? “Don’t like to see” does not have to equal “am going to disqualify a winning swimmer because I didn’t like it.” That’s where the misogyny comes in. Sorry, I thought your comment had gone away from this situation and was talking about women criticizing other women in general being misogynistic. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 11, 2019 23:18:08 GMT
I'm sure Alaska has the same type of very specific uniform code that is in our state handbook for competitive swimming. It specifically states: "Enough suit material needs to be present so exposure of the buttock, frontal pubic area and breasts (for females) does not occur during the conduct of a swim meet". The only difference between the standard for men and women are the breasts being covered. I haven't seen a picture, but I will state emphatically that manufacturers are making it more and more difficult to comply with these rules - and if an athlete does not purchase the appropriate size would absolutely be in violation.
I'm not in the area and have none of the background, but did want to address one comment several have made about only disqualifying her after she won. There is no suit inspection prior to competition. The official would not know that she violated the code until she raced. We had several violations at our state meet last year (nothing to do with body coverage) and all occurred after the race had been conducted.
I will also disagree a bit with the herd and say that I do think that it's appropriate for the state to regulate the uniforms. I don't think it would be appropriate for swimmers to wear thongs and don't think it's body shaming to believe that. Unfortunately some will absolutely push the envelope without a written policy.
As an aside, I'm actually impressed that the state meet in Alaska isn't full of tech suits - it's pretty rare here for anyone making finals to not be wearing one.
ETA oops sorry, guess it wasn't the state meet, but rather she was the state champion. I misread that.
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