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Post by peabay on Sept 14, 2019 15:50:24 GMT
I have GERD and Zantac is my “drug of choice.”
With the new warning about NDMA - are you switching? I picked up some Pepcid today. I guess I’m tossing all my Zantac...
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 14, 2019 15:55:41 GMT
Haven't heard the warning but Walmart sells the generic Prilosec very inexpensive. My husband used to take that. He doesn't need it any more.
Eta The generic is Omeprezole and I probably spelled it wrong as I don't have it in front of me.
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Post by peabay on Sept 14, 2019 16:05:48 GMT
Unfortunately, Omeprazole has nasty long term side effects. I’m too scared to take any PPIs.
The warning is that a carcinogen is present in Zantac and its generic version, ranitidine.
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Post by seaexplore on Sept 14, 2019 16:17:55 GMT
I took the ranitidine when I was pregnant with both my kids. Lovely.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 14, 2019 16:49:45 GMT
GERD is fixable, maybe try looking into that?
These meds don’t fix/cure GERD they only put a bandaid on a never ending (unless other things are changed) issue.
For my hubby, years ago his was corrected by simple dietary changes.
He had taken various meds but he knew he didn’t want to be on them forever.
His GERD has been gone for more than 8 years.
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Post by Merge on Sept 14, 2019 16:55:24 GMT
Holy shit. I’ve been taking ranitidine daily for 15 years, because it helps my allergy meds control my chronic hives.
I’m not aware that there was any danger associated with this. My doctors have always said it was nbd.
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Post by peabay on Sept 14, 2019 16:56:16 GMT
GERD is fixable, maybe try looking into that? These meds don’t fix/cure GERD they only put a bandaid on a never ending (unless other things are changed) issue. For my hubby, years ago his was corrected by simple dietary changes. He had taken various meds but he knew he didn’t want to be on them forever. His GERD has been gone for more than 8 years. Oh, absolutely - I have made dietary and lifestyle changes and it's not awful. But if I do eat something that triggers it, I would take a Zantac and it took care of it for me. Sometimes it's just triggered by a combination of anxiety and eating something that I didn't even know would set it off. Zantac was my buddy at those times. I'm not prescribed anything for it - just on a PRN basis. |
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Post by peabay on Sept 14, 2019 16:57:23 GMT
Holy shit. I’ve been taking ranitidine daily for 15 years, because it helps my allergy meds control my chronic hives. I’m not aware that there was any danger associated with this. My doctors have always said it was nbd. |
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Post by scrapngranny on Sept 14, 2019 17:09:23 GMT
I have Barrett’s esophagus and take a combination of ranitidine and omeprazole. They both have issues. I will speak with my GI doctor and see what he says. I was told not use Tums regularly previously. Which is worse the disease or the cure?
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Post by Merge on Sept 14, 2019 17:11:46 GMT
Hmmm. From the article:
"“The FDA is not calling for individuals to stop taking ranitidine at this time,” the statement read. “However, patients taking prescription ranitidine who wish to discontinue should talk to their health care professional about other treatment options. People taking [over-the-counter] ranitidine could consider using other medicines approved for their condition.”
While NDMA could cause harm in high amounts, the levels found in some medications are not much more than what’s commonly found in foods and dairy, according to the FDA."
Sounds a bit like one of those studies that finds that certain things cause cancer in lab rats, but only when ingested at 3000 times the normal amount.
It sounds like other PPIs are not affected?
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Post by gale w on Sept 14, 2019 17:13:24 GMT
Well shit. I take ranitidine daily for reflux. I tried omeprazole but it made me sick to the point of puking. Great. I asked my doc about taking it long term and he said it's fine and he does and has for decades. I guess I should ask again now that new information is out.
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Post by gale w on Sept 14, 2019 17:14:15 GMT
Hmmm. From the article: "“The FDA is not calling for individuals to stop taking ranitidine at this time,” the statement read. “However, patients taking prescription ranitidine who wish to discontinue should talk to their health care professional about other treatment options. People taking [over-the-counter] ranitidine could consider using other medicines approved for their condition.” While NDMA could cause harm in high amounts, the levels found in some medications are not much more than what’s commonly found in foods and dairy, according to the FDA." Sounds a bit like one of those studies that finds that certain things cause cancer in lab rats, but only when ingested at 3000 times the normal amount. It sounds like other PPIs are not affected?I take 150mg twice daily. I might just take it once daily for a while and see if that is effective for me. eta: Ranitidine isn't a PPI. |
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Post by Linda on Sept 14, 2019 17:16:45 GMT
I'm on long-term rantidine - my PCP and I discussed it last month at my quarterly appt and her take was that it was the safer of the long-term options and that while it does carry a risk of cancer so does untreated GERD.
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Post by peabay on Sept 14, 2019 17:44:05 GMT
Hmmm. From the article: "“The FDA is not calling for individuals to stop taking ranitidine at this time,” the statement read. “However, patients taking prescription ranitidine who wish to discontinue should talk to their health care professional about other treatment options. People taking [over-the-counter] ranitidine could consider using other medicines approved for their condition.” While NDMA could cause harm in high amounts, the levels found in some medications are not much more than what’s commonly found in foods and dairy, according to the FDA." Sounds a bit like one of those studies that finds that certain things cause cancer in lab rats, but only when ingested at 3000 times the normal amount. It sounds like other PPIs are not affected? I’m going to call my GI on Monday but other things I read basically said “stop if you can.” So, I’m stopping. I must admit it’s become a bit of a crutch for me. I’d be fine if I stayed away from chocolate and coffee and orange juice and the other acidic foods that serve to trigger my GERD, but damn, sometimes a girl just wants a York Peppermint Patty. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:49:58 GMT
Haven't heard the warning but Walmart sells the generic Prilosec very inexpensive. My husband used to take that. He doesn't need it any more. Eta The generic is Omeprezole and I probably spelled it wrong as I don't have it in front of me. More effective than Omeprazole is Esomeprazole. I began a few months ago and it's much better!!!
I take:
Esomeprazole 40 mg
Ranididine 150 mg 2x/day
Diltiazem 180 mg
Haven't heard of any warnings, but all of mine are Rx's.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:53:36 GMT
Hmmm. From the article: "“The FDA is not calling for individuals to stop taking ranitidine at this time,” the statement read. “However, patients taking prescription ranitidine who wish to discontinue should talk to their health care professional about other treatment options. People taking [over-the-counter] ranitidine could consider using other medicines approved for their condition.” While NDMA could cause harm in high amounts, the levels found in some medications are not much more than what’s commonly found in foods and dairy, according to the FDA." Sounds a bit like one of those studies that finds that certain things cause cancer in lab rats, but only when ingested at 3000 times the normal amount. It sounds like other PPIs are not affected? I’m going to call my GI on Monday but other things I read basically said “stop if you can.” So, I’m stopping. I must admit it’s become a bit of a crutch for me. I’d be fine if I stayed away from chocolate and coffee and orange juice and the other acidic foods that serve to trigger my GERD, but damn, sometimes a girl just wants a York Peppermint Patty. WOWW!! I take Ranitidine 150 mg, 2x/day + I take 2 other Rx's for my GERD!! I watch my diet (don't even drink with a straw--nothing with bubbles anymore--no more seltzer!! I watch that my water isn't too cold. I watch for acidic foods......), and STILL feel that horrible GERD pain. There's no way I could miss 1 dosage. I guess I have to take my chances......... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:56:23 GMT
Well shit. I take ranitidine daily for reflux. I tried omeprazole but it made me sick to the point of puking. Great. I asked my doc about taking it long term and he said it's fine and he does and has for decades. I guess I should ask again now that new information is out. I take BOTH Ranitidine (2x day) AND Esomeprazole (and it does make me nauseous!). I've taken them for about 10 years now......... Can't eat, drink or swallow without them. I've tried. I also take Diltiazem for my esophogus issues too.........
If we have severe GERD and other gastro issues, we have to weigh out the benefits.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:59:31 GMT
GERD is fixable, maybe try looking into that? These meds don’t fix/cure GERD they only put a bandaid on a never ending (unless other things are changed) issue. For my hubby, years ago his was corrected by simple dietary changes. He had taken various meds but he knew he didn’t want to be on them forever. His GERD has been gone for more than 8 years. WOW, thank God your DH's GERD was fixable!! Keep in mind that not everyone's GERD is the same. People could get GERD from years of alcohol or high doses of aspirin or anything that's harsh. For me, there's no turning back. Even with the cleanest diet for GERD, my damage is done. I have to be on it forever (3 Rx's) and even at that, I might be facing gastro surgery down the line. |
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Post by chitchatgirl on Sept 14, 2019 19:05:51 GMT
At this point in time I’m sticking with Zantac. The FDA hasn’t said the specific level NDMA was found only that it’s slight higher than normal levels. I’ve also not seen anything about how many samples it was identified in. I really think the FDA is doing the public a disservice in this regard because the media release they sent out was incredibly vague. The only helpful thing they included was that it’s in other sources too including meat, dairy, and chlorinated water. Be careful when you hear stuff like this or the latest study reported on the news. The news may point out the sensationalized conclusion but leave out that the sample size was a handful of people, the study wasn’t independent, etc. Fear gets viewers: “If it bleeds it leads: understanding fear based media” article Bottom line is stay calm and talk to your doctor if you’re worried. Only you and your doctor can decide if the risk outweighs the benefit. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:07:49 GMT
I lost twenty pounds and now I down to only taking a That just a couple of times a months... after I have bad food.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 14, 2019 20:40:14 GMT
Haven't heard the warning but Walmart sells the generic Prilosec very inexpensive. My husband used to take that. He doesn't need it any more. Eta The generic is Omeprezole and I probably spelled it wrong as I don't have it in front of me. More effective than Omeprazole is Esomeprazole. I began a few months ago and it's much better!!!
I take:
Esomeprazole 40 mg
Ranididine 150 mg 2x/day
Diltiazem 180 mg
Haven't heard of any warnings, but all of mine are Rx's.
In wrote that down.My husband doesn't take it much anymore since he retired. No stress now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:51:43 GMT
I only take it very occasionally, and I have no intention of stopping. I think the risk of esophageal cancer from reflux is higher than whatever cancer (I couldn't find what type of cancer ndma can cause) ranitidine might cause. Pick your poison, as it were.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 14, 2019 21:02:04 GMT
That is what I take too. The brand name is nexium. I buy the generic kind. My Dr wanted me off Prilosec, due to the big time side effects/complications. I think it has helped with some anxiety I was having. I only take the Nexuim like 2xs a wk. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 14, 2019 22:31:22 GMT
I take it very sporadically (maybe one every three or four months). Usually stress in combination with high acidic food like tomatoes. I don't plan to stop. The news was not conclusive, a lot of probable/possible and the amounts were very low. It works for me.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 14, 2019 22:35:56 GMT
GERD is fixable, maybe try looking into that? These meds don’t fix/cure GERD they only put a bandaid on a never ending (unless other things are changed) issue. For my hubby, years ago his was corrected by simple dietary changes. He had taken various meds but he knew he didn’t want to be on them forever. His GERD has been gone for more than 8 years. WOW, thank God your DH's GERD was fixable!! Keep in mind that not everyone's GERD is the same. People could get GERD from years of alcohol or high doses of aspirin or anything that's harsh. For me, there's no turning back. Even with the cleanest diet for GERD, my damage is done. I have to be on it forever (3 Rx's) and even at that, I might be facing gastro surgery down the line. That sucks for sure! I didn’t mean to imply that everyone was the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 22:45:39 GMT
WOW, thank God your DH's GERD was fixable!! Keep in mind that not everyone's GERD is the same. People could get GERD from years of alcohol or high doses of aspirin or anything that's harsh. For me, there's no turning back. Even with the cleanest diet for GERD, my damage is done. I have to be on it forever (3 Rx's) and even at that, I might be facing gastro surgery down the line. That sucks for sure! I didn’t mean to imply that everyone was the same. Oh, I didn't mean for it to sound that way. I adore you and know that you have nothing but good intentions. I only meant to say that for some people, GERD is a warning sign, and it could be stopped. For others, it's an indication that real damage has been done, and then it's a matter of doing all you can to further protect your stomach and throat, which is where I'm at. Your husband was lucky, but I know it takes dedication to keep it healthy! |
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Post by nlwilkins on Sept 14, 2019 23:46:31 GMT
I had surgery several years ago and was able to discontinue the three RX's I was on for GERD. It was called nissen fundilipication. (Try saying that three times fast!) When they did the surgery they also found a hernia that was repaired. Now I never need anything more than a tums or two if I eat too much Mexican food.
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 15, 2019 11:57:42 GMT
At this point in time I’m sticking with Zantac. The FDA hasn’t said the specific level NDMA was found only that it’s slight higher than normal levels. I’ve also not seen anything about how many samples it was identified in. I really think the FDA is doing the public a disservice in this regard because the media release they sent out was incredibly vague. The only helpful thing they included was that it’s in other sources too including meat, dairy, and chlorinated water. Be careful when you hear stuff like this or the latest study reported on the news. The news may point out the sensationalized conclusion but leave out that the sample size was a handful of people, the study wasn’t independent, etc. Fear gets viewers: “If it bleeds it leads: understanding fear based media” article Bottom line is stay calm and talk to your doctor if you’re worried. Only you and your doctor can decide if the risk outweighs the benefit. I agree with everything you said. I am not stopping. I need to take something and ranitidine is safer than omeprazole for long term use. |
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Post by cycworker on Sept 15, 2019 13:09:17 GMT
I take it. Hadn't heard this update. Will discuss w/ Doctor. Thanks.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 15, 2019 15:02:56 GMT
Holy shit. I’ve been taking ranitidine daily for 15 years, because it helps my allergy meds control my chronic hives. I’m not aware that there was any danger associated with this. My doctors have always said it was nbd. My husband takes daily it for chronic hives as well. IIRC the article I read yesterday mentioned the amount they found was something like 7 times higher than the amount in the blood pressure medications the FDA previously recalled for the same substance. His pharmacist recommended Pepcid, which he’ll try until he can speak with his doctor. Does anyone have any experience taking Pepcid daily, or for chronic hives? |
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