MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Sept 27, 2019 1:59:00 GMT
I did laugh out loud when Rob and Sandra were in the spy hit. The contestants were talking about how difficult it was to vote someone out when you liked the person. Rob turns to Sandra and says, “Was it that hard for you to vote someone out?”
Sandra says “$@@/ no. I Vote You Out and That’s It,”
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mich5481
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Post by mich5481 on Sept 27, 2019 2:05:24 GMT
I'm pretty sure the producers tell them what to wear. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be practicing other things at home, like fire making, or swimming, and getting themselves in shape. They have plenty of advance time for those things. Really? then why don't they all dress the same? It seems very random and personalized to me. Heck we've seen anything from skirts, shorts, suit jackets with ties, to dresses. They make the initial teams dress alike in their colorways. For example, the purple team had people wearing various shades of blue and purple, while the orange team had people in orange, red, and yellow. I think they have different styles of clothes to help viewers tell members apart.
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mich5481
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Post by mich5481 on Sept 27, 2019 2:06:48 GMT
Really? then why don't they all dress the same? It seems very random and personalized to me. Heck we've seen anything from skirts, shorts, suit jackets with ties, to dresses. They make the initial teams dress alike in their colorways. For example, the purple team had people wearing various shades of blue and purple, while the orange team had people in orange, red, and yellow. I think they have different styles of clothes to help viewers tell members apart. Edited to add: producers were the reason why Lil in Outcasts wore her Scoutmaster's uniform.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 27, 2019 2:09:39 GMT
ahhhh. So it's actually NOT the survivors fault their junk is out, or whatever. It's production. That explains a lot. but sort of a shitty thing for them to do, don't you think?
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Post by workingclassdog on Sept 27, 2019 2:18:35 GMT
ahhhh. So it's actually NOT the survivors fault their junk is out, or whatever. It's production. That explains a lot. but sort of a shitty thing for them to do, don't you think? I think it is really shitty. I just read the article. I get the color thing, it makes it "look" nicer I guess for the cameras. I also can get wearing the clothes you might wear everyday in your life. But I would guess some of those people wear the 'camping/hunting/hiking type gear' on a daily basis.. so why then they couldn't wear that if that is their normal attire. Wearing the stupid underwear makes NO sense and makes me almost want to gag. I do not understand why not just trunks?
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Post by kels99 on Sept 27, 2019 2:34:19 GMT
I thought the part in the article about the "Dream Team" was interesting; I've always wondered about those overhead shots.
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Post by jackie on Sept 28, 2019 12:55:39 GMT
Coming in late and hoping people are still reading and replying on this first episode. I watched episode 1 the night it aired but I was so tired that I wasn’t keeping up. I even dozed off and had to rewind. Not because it was boring (it wasn’t) but when I’m tired I’m going to sleep. I did have some strong opinions during that first watching, but I wanted to go through and do a good watching before I commented. I am definitely agree with what everyone else is saying. I read all of your posts saying “yep”, “yep”, “yep”. The three biggest things for me were: First, the Rob and Sandra twist: Hated the idea of this. I’m done seeing these two on Survivor. Done. Especially Rob’s smug face. I knew I would still watch (I’m too much of a Survivir fan), but I wasn’t happy. I did beg Debbie to still watch too and I’m delighted she decided to! I’m still not happy that they’re on there, but if they’re going to be, this was the way to do it. I’m glad they can’t compete and I’m hoping they won’t spend a lot of screen time on them. I hate it when they add twists that take away other things that I love. I’ve seen seasons where they reduced reward challenges (or at least the showing of them) so they could show their twists. Reward challenges are my favorite thing and I hate when they’re reduced. I did wonder where Rob and Sandra are staying. I’m assuming they aren’t roughing it so probably with the crew? Second, Elizabeth lying about the Island if the Idols. What the what? If your “gut” told you you to lie in the manner you did, I suggest you stop listening to your gut. Like all of you said, people will be going every three days so she WILL be quickly discovered. Why not say the truth. I. Just. Don’t. Get. It. I mean would have lied about taking Rob up on the challenge and losing my vote, but I would have told the truth about the rest. Third, the current castaways. Omg, this was probably the thing I noticed first and the one I’m the most happy about. Finally we get a cast of largely average looking/sized people. It doesn’t look like a cattle call for models. It felt more like old Survivor. I get that people love some eye candy and I do t mind some of that. But we can’t have ALL that and the attractive people still need to be interesting and competitive and preferably Survivor fans. I hate it when random attractive people are scouted at bars and such. Like you guys, I’m loving Elaine. I also really like Vince, Tom and Missy on that tribe. The rest seem pretty likable, though I’m not sure about Aaron. I get that it stinks to be one of the two unaware of the majority voting, but he needs to get over his butt hurt feelings real quick. As far as Ronnie goes, buh-bye weasel. I was really impressed that Elaine had him pegged right away. Oh, and the whole cumin thing (“That must be some city shit.”) cracked me up. To her credit, the Grey Poupon comment was funny and I don’t think Elizabeth got it (“that’s mustard!”). On the other tribe, I think I like Jamal, Tommy, Jack (great work on the challenge, really likable, and the spitting clam made me lol), Janet (that fire starting with bamboo was AWESOME!), and Molly. Dan is a little creepy. Hopefully he’ll take in stride what has been said to him. Last few things. I thought it was strange that people started targeting Elaine, Vince, and Tom for being separate from the group. Really? Dies the whole group need to move around as one giant mass? I mean I would think there’s lots of splitting off to complete multiple tasks. The other thing was the challenge. I know people are moving through as quickly as possible, but some of those slides looked painful and dangerous, especially the somersaulting and face-first ones. There’s a puzzle at the end people. Take a second to slide down on your butt rather than risk breaking your neck! HereDalton’s recap. I’m off to readit now myself.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 28, 2019 13:45:03 GMT
Coming in late and hoping people are still reading and replying on this first episode. I watched episode 1 the night it aired but I was so tired that I wasn’t keeping up. I even dozed off and had to rewind. Not because it was boring (it wasn’t) but when I’m tired I’m going to sleep. I did have some strong opinions during that first watching, but I wanted to go through and do a good watching before I commented. I am definitely agree with what everyone else is saying. I read all of your posts saying “yep”, “yep”, “yep”. The three biggest things for me were: First, the Rob and Sandra twist: Hated the idea of this. I’m done seeing these two on Survivor. Done. Especially Rob’s smug face. I knew I would still watch (I’m too much of a Survivir fan), but I wasn’t happy. I did beg Debbie to still watch too and I’m delighted she decided to! I’m still not happy that they’re on there, but if they’re going to be, this was the way to do it. I’m glad they can’t compete and I’m hoping they won’t spend a lot of screen time on them. I hate it when they add twists that take away other things that I love. I’ve seen seasons where they reduced reward challenges (or at least the showing of them) so they could show their twists. Reward challenges are my favorite thing and I hate when they’re reduced. I did wonder where Rob and Sandra are staying. I’m assuming they aren’t roughing it so probably with the crew?Second, Elizabeth lying about the Island if the Idols. What the what? If your “gut” told you you to lie in the manner you did, I suggest you stop listening to your gut. Like all of you said, people will be going every three days so she WILL be quickly discovered. Why not say the truth. I. Just. Don’t. Get. It. I mean would have lied about taking Rob up on the challenge and losing my vote, but I would have told the truth about the rest. Third, the current castaways. Omg, this was probably the thing I noticed first and the one I’m the most happy about. Finally we get a cast of largely average looking/sized people. It doesn’t look like a cattle call for models. It felt more like old Survivor. I get that people love some eye candy and I do t mind some of that. But we can’t have ALL that and the attractive people still need to be interesting and competitive and preferably Survivor fans. I hate it when random attractive people are scouted at bars and such. Like you guys, I’m loving Elaine. I also really like Vince, Tom and Missy on that tribe. The rest seem pretty likable, though I’m not sure about Aaron. I get that it stinks to be one of the two unaware of the majority voting, but he needs to get over his butt hurt feelings real quick. As far as Ronnie goes, buh-bye weasel. I was really impressed that Elaine had him pegged right away. Oh, and the whole cumin thing (“That must be some city shit.”) cracked me up. To her credit, the Grey Poupon comment was funny and I don’t think Elizabeth got it (“that’s mustard!”). On the other tribe, I think I like Jamal, Tommy, Jack (great work on the challenge, really likable, and the spitting clam made me lol), Janet (that fire starting with bamboo was AWESOME!), and Molly. Dan is a little creepy. Hopefully he’ll take in stride what has been said to him. Last few things. I thought it was strange that people started targeting Elaine, Vince, and Tom for being separate from the group. Really? Dies the whole group need to move around as one giant mass? I mean I would think there’s lots of splitting off to complete multiple tasks. The other thing was the challenge. I know people are moving through as quickly as possible, but some of those slides looked painful and dangerous, especially the somersaulting and face-first ones. There’s a puzzle at the end people. Take a second to slide down on your butt rather than risk breaking your neck! HereDalton’s recap. I’m off to readit now myself. I saw a short video -- I think it was one that was linked below Dalton's recap -- that showed Rob and Sandra putting up a shelter with rope and bamboo, etc. But maybe that's just for show...? I guess we'll be able to tell by how they look as the show goes on. lol. But I'd suspect that even if they are living the camping-style life they're also being given more amenities.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Sept 28, 2019 13:50:42 GMT
Thanks for the link to the recap, I'd forgotten how much I enjoy those!
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Post by birukitty on Sept 28, 2019 23:54:31 GMT
Jackie, just wanted to mention how glad I am to see you here and read your recap. You raised a lot of good points and said a lot of things I missed. I watched it again a second time and just wanted to say that I don't agree with Sandra's advice about "trusting your gut" at all. How many times have we heard that on Survivor and it turns out not working? I think in Suvivor it's better to trust your brain and reflect back on previous season's and what other's have done and how it effected their game. We've all seen seasons where certain survivor's get to their camps first and are faced with 2 or 3 choices-one is to lie to their teammates and look for an idol or get something to share with their teammates and tell the truth. The one's that lie almost always end up getting caught in that lie. I think trusting your gut works best in flight or fight situations like "The Book of Fear" recommends, not in game situations. Elizabeth would have been far better off if she'd trusted her brain and thought about previous seasons and their players rather than trusting her gut because her gut steered her wrong-it doesn't work in games. Her brain would have told her-"Hey, wait a minute. In 3 days someone else will be making this same trek and they could tell the whole team." I also think she was so eager to play that she threw all caution to the wind and just went with it. Dumb move. What she did could seriously ruin her game. We'll see. That's all I wanted to add. Oh yes, I too thought it was strange for people on the orange tribe to target the three because they were off getting branches to help build the fort. What the heck? It was totally innocent. And most importantly I too am thrilled to see that we've got a lot more ordinary looking people as a cast instead of just actress want a be's or actor want a be's that were scouted because of their good looks. Maybe the Survivor producer's finally heard the public asking for this? Look how great Elaine has turned out to be with her amazing personality-you don't get that if you only cast the above.
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Post by Leone on Sept 29, 2019 12:57:20 GMT
My first reaction was I really never want to see Sandra nor Rob again. have never liked either and their smugness gets old very fast. but they are making it a bit interesting. I like Elaine...was fun to see the weasel get booted right away.
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Post by Neisey on Sept 29, 2019 14:40:44 GMT
With regards to Elizabeth’s lie about her visit to the Island... because she lost the fire making contest she lost her vote at that night’s tribal council. When Jeff read the votes he appeared to read enough votes for Ronnie’s elimination before he got to Elizabeth’s “no vote.” How was her no vote going to be explained if Jeff pulled it out prior to eliminating a contestant?
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Sept 29, 2019 17:21:16 GMT
With regards to Elizabeth’s lie about her visit to the Island... because she lost the fire making contest she lost her vote at that night’s tribal council. When Jeff read the votes he appeared to read enough votes for Ronnie’s elimination before he got to Elizabeth’s “no vote.” How was her no vote going to be explained if Jeff pulled it out prior to eliminating a contestant? I'm pretty confident they are arranged in the urn before Jeff pulls them out--you can just tell by how they are read-- so as long as the majority voted someone out it wasn't going to come up.
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 29, 2019 17:53:10 GMT
Oh yes, I too thought it was strange for people on the orange tribe to target the three because they were off getting branches to help build the fort. What the heck? It was totally innocent. In fairness, the three did immediately form an alliance. They are my favorite three, so I'm fine with it. Everyone is working hard to make sure they aren't the target in the first couple days, so happy to jump on the bandwagon of a public alliance offer. Reality is there was no true group of seven formed, it was more a "I'll jump in with you so no one gives me as second look" alliance. I think Rob totally played Elizabeth with the "you know you want to" challenge me. I don't think it was a terrible decision given she completely hid the "no vote" penalty. Neisey, IMHO, it would have been outed if there was a 4-4 tie and then a revote would have happened. I don't think Jeff would have said why it there were only 8 votes and, IIRC, there was a previous tribal where a couple tribe members questioned the numbers after a vote, but not during the tribal. Usually the scramble is to a revote and deciding who of the two will go rather than focussing on how a tie happened. I do agree with everyone that Elizabeth will probably have her IOI lie come back to bite her. If they continue with the random draws, alternating tribes, she has 6 days to figure out where to share the information. I'm so, so happy that Ronnie was voted out. I loved that Elaine read him as completely untrustworthy. Janet and Jack are my favorites on the winning tribe (ugh, I guess I have to learn the new tribe names). I think my fantasy is to see Tom and Janet make it to the final tribal!
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YooHoot
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Post by YooHoot on Sept 29, 2019 18:55:23 GMT
I think I would share my secret after tribal counsel so I didn't have a target on my back. Maybe she will come clean next week.
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tanya2
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Post by tanya2 on Oct 3, 2019 3:51:26 GMT
Well that's 2 people in a row that went to the island & came back telling a story about breaking urns. So clearly either Rob/Sandra are telling them to say that or production is. Probably to keep the surprise for the people still to go to the island. It took me a bit to figure out what they were trying to teach Kellee also, and like her I would have been constantly thinking about it instead of listening closely enough. And then it hit me - DUH they're teaching her about social game Smart of her to hide the idol in her hair, but I was so worried it would fall out when they hugged her I don't know that I agree with who they sent home though. They should have sent home the guy who was talking about them being in first gear & that it was a slow race & that he was so confident he didn't even bring his back to tribal I do love that they aren't all just "following the leader" with their votes though and that most of them are thinking about how this works best for their game
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zella
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Post by zella on Oct 3, 2019 5:48:13 GMT
jackie, I belong to a Survivor Fan group on FB. You do know that Rob and Sandra are competing on the next season, right? It's an all winners season, so you'll see them in back-to-back seasons. You can find the full list of castaways pretty easily online. As far as Rob and Sandra's living conditions, they said they would only do the show only if they had to live the Survivor life. They built their own shelter. They were given limited food rations. No, they weren't living at the resort or anything like that. They made their own fire, Rob caught fish, the whole shebang. The only difference was that production built those giant damn statues of them! I read an interview with both of them, and was actually very impressed that they insisted "no frills or we won't do it." I'm sure they are being paid handsomely, though. I actually really enjoy both of them. In tonight's episode (#2) I knew EXACTLY what they were going to test what's her name on. I would have passed. I was listening closely. I knew that wasn't how they normally are, that talkative right out the gate.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 3, 2019 11:39:18 GMT
Which one??
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Post by jackie on Oct 3, 2019 11:59:43 GMT
So, Noura is pretty obnoxious right? My gosh if someone was bitching and harassing everyone as much as she was, I would want her GONE. And that “yoga” on the beach—dumbest thing ever. Every season it amazes me that people who claim to be fans of the show make these sane mistakes over and over: No matter how annoyed you are and how sure you are that you’re right, do not start yelling, bitching and bossing people. No matter how good you feel about your alliance and how comfortable you are in your position in your tribe, never show that. Do not make it clear that you’re running the show (or think you are). Do not constantly go off with your little group of favorites. Do not dictate to everyone how to vote—ask their opinions, give suggestions, but never commands. So now we have the underdogs revolting and revolting early. It will be interesting to see what camp is like next week after tribal.
I’m surprisingly really liking this season. We have normal folks all playing hard from the get-go. These are average people who are refusing to let the stronger tribe members call all the shots. I think it’s awesome! But what is it with yet another player, Kellee, lying about the island of the idols. I just cannot see how this is going to work out for them. Next week will be interesting because we’ll have two people from the same tribe maki g the visit. Will that person perpetuate Chelsea’s lie or will they tell the truth? I thought Kellee had a way easier challenge to complete than Chelsea. And Rob starts sweetening the deal as soon as Kellee hesitated. Chelsea hesitated too and he didn’t do that.
I enjoyed the challenge and that it included a reward. It was a very close finish which I love so much better than a blowout. I always love a water challenge.
I still liking the same people so far, but Jason is now growing on me. He became a lot more likable. I thought he did a great job at tribal council.
Oh, and how about Chelsea just coming upon that idol? That seemed a bit too easy to me. I want the hidden immunity idols hidden a bit better than that!
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Post by christine58 on Oct 3, 2019 12:05:37 GMT
Kellee, lying about the island of the idols She made a comment about having to not only hide the idol but the "rules". I bet they aren't supposed to say anything because it's more of a help than a hinderance in going to the island.
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Post by jackie on Oct 3, 2019 12:08:18 GMT
Okay, just saw the other posts.
Tanya, I understand what you’re saying about voting off cocky Jamal, but I think the fell they need his strength. He’s very good in challenges and almost came from behind and win that for his tribe. Voting iffMolly allowed them to break up the alliance without weakening the tribe. She was expendable. Plus, the women really were threatened by her. I think they thought her char would get those guys to do anything.
Zella, yeah let us know the name of that group. I love chatting with other fans. I don’t want spoilers though. If there’s danger of spoilers I’m out. A season of winners huh? Well if they’re going to bring back winners I prefer they’re all winners. I hate mixing seasoned p,Ayers with unseasoned ones. Not sure how I feel about this next season though; I’m going to have to see a lot of faces I’m sick of, with Rob’s smug mug at the top of the list. Yes, it’s not bad this season, but that’s because he and Sandra are only shown for a bit and because he’s not playing.
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Post by jackie on Oct 3, 2019 12:10:25 GMT
I’m pretty sure they are allowed to talk about the island. In Daltons Q&A with Jeff, he said he would probably lie about the island too, which implies there is a choice.
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Post by jackie on Oct 3, 2019 12:31:55 GMT
I’m back...lol! First I want to give the link to Dalton’s recap. Next, a few additions. I’m clearly mixing up Chelsea and Elizabeth. So if you notice that in my other posts, ignore. It takes me a bit to keep these people straight. Also, was anyone else slightly put out by the comparisons to cool kids vs. nerds? I mean we’ve heard that before on Survivor, but it kind of bothered me hearing Tommy talk about wanting to “sit with the cool kids”. As a 4th grade teacher, I didn’t like that. There was one more thing I wanted to say and now I can’t remember it. Hopefully,I’ll remember later. It may have been about Kellee hiding there idol in her hair. I thought that was kind of genius.
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tanya2
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Post by tanya2 on Oct 3, 2019 13:39:39 GMT
Jackie, I'm so glad you're back. I love hearing your thoughts about this game
I understand what you mean about Jamal vs Molly. But if he's smart he should know that he might need to worry. And Noura was SO ANNOYING! But good for them not just getting rid of the annoying people but playing the smart game. Although I do hate that theory of bringing the annoying ones to the end because you think you can beat them
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zella
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Post by zella on Oct 3, 2019 18:07:54 GMT
The Tribe Has Spoken. Small but growing. Links to Survivor Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. Very active chat. Great board.
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zella
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Post by zella on Oct 3, 2019 18:11:21 GMT
Okay, just saw the other posts. Tanya, I understand what you’re saying about voting off cocky Jamal, but I think the fell they need his strength. He’s very good in challenges and almost came from behind and win that for his tribe. Voting iffMolly allowed them to break up the alliance without weakening the tribe. She was expendable. Plus, the women really were threatened by her. I think they thought her char would get those guys to do anything. Zella, yeah let us know the name of that group. I love chatting with other fans. I don’t want spoilers though. If there’s danger of spoilers I’m out. A season of winners huh? Well if they’re going to bring back winners I prefer they’re all winners. I hate mixing seasoned p,Ayers with unseasoned ones. Not sure how I feel about this next season though; I’m going to have to see a lot of faces I’m sick of, with Rob’s smug mug at the top of the list. Yes, it’s not bad this season, but that’s because he and Sandra are only shown for a bit and because he’s not playing. They have very strict rules about spoilers. There's a separate chat group for those who've seen the latest episode. One spoiler posted on the main board and you're kicked off. Spoilers ARE allowed 24 hours after airing, I think it is, though, so just be careful if you don't see it live.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 10, 2019 20:33:36 GMT
Anyone watch last night??
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Oct 10, 2019 20:55:47 GMT
Anyone watch last night?? I did Heartbreaking
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Post by Minnesota*Mom on Oct 10, 2019 21:01:41 GMT
Anyone watch last night?? super bummed about the person voted out last night.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 10, 2019 21:13:11 GMT
My thoughts: - why didn't we see what Vince told the tribe about what happened at IOI or if he and Elizabeth spoke to each other about it?
- I hated the whole scene where Karishma cut herself and NO ONE seemed to care?!
- I liked Tom until last night, but saw a different side of him that I really don't like
- Missy, Janet and Lauren are my favorites right now
- loved the challenge
- hate that IOI is taking time from getting to know the players better
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