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Post by hop2 on Nov 7, 2019 13:05:00 GMT
DINO?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 14:19:00 GMT
Moderate here. Thanks for the insult. What a way to start the day by being insulted here and on a thread I started no less. But I want to thank you as well. I pounded out a couple of replies to the insult. One really wasn’t very nice , but in the end I deleted them. Earlier this morning, before I read the insult here, I was checking Twitter for the latest in the news and realized how weary I get reading all the shit surrounding trump And how it just never ends and at the same taken how frustrated I get when I see what I truly believe is the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot if they continue to go down the path Warren & Sanders are building on false promises. So I thought maybe I should step away for awhile, join millions of other Americans and stick my head in the sand and ignore what is happening. Stepping away would mean stepping away from here as well. But I didn’t and the first thing I read is I’m being insulted because I’m , like millions of other Democrats, a moderate. And by a another member, I assume, of the Democratic Party. Based on the response to the insult I deleted, I think I will take a break. I hope this thread continues, if not, I’ll start it up when I come back. Once I post this, I really will have to take a break. 😀 Yes I peeked. Like a little kid I couldn’t help myself. And I realized I was remiss in not pointing out what the insult was. Its simple really. If you do not subscribe to the more progressive agenda, then you are not a “real” Democrat. I guess some now feel there is this litmus test one has to pass before folks can call themselves “real” Democrats. Which is interesting since the Democratic Party bills itself as the party of inclusion. As Democrats we all have the same goals we want to achieve for the country and right now the discussion in the party is how best to reach these goals. I have never made it a secret that I’m not a big fan of how the more progressive wing wants to pay for archiving these goals. I honestly see a mountain of problems that could stop all together what we are trying to achieve as Democrats. And while I disagree with how the more progressive wing of the party wants to pay for things, it would never enter my head to tell them they aren’t “real” Democrats because they don’t see things the way I do. Now let’s try this again. Ladies I hope you guys have a great holiday season. You're reading things that aren't there. I have never ever mentioned or intimated that moderate Dems aren't 'real' Dems. And, as I already pointed out, the quote above didn't even REFERENCE Dems, it was about the media and cultural obsession w/the hypothetical 'moderate' who would be called a conservative in any other developed nation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 14:20:13 GMT
Happy Holidays!! ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIxgxYJXUAIT6g8.jpg)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 7, 2019 16:58:24 GMT
Brother of 'I can thumb my nose at a court order' Betsy! Let the taxpayers pay my $100,000 fine! Nice family!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 8, 2019 1:37:14 GMT
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Post by ntsf on Nov 8, 2019 2:38:30 GMT
so trump has to pay $2 million to charity due to the fraud of his charity. I want all candidates for Dems to pound over and over that trump collected millions for "the veterans" and then gave it to his election slush fund.. a total con.. lets see how that is justified by his base.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 8, 2019 2:55:49 GMT
Yes I peeked. Like a little kid I couldn’t help myself. And I realized I was remiss in not pointing out what the insult was. Its simple really. If you do not subscribe to the more progressive agenda, then you are not a “real” Democrat. I guess some now feel there is this litmus test one has to pass before folks can call themselves “real” Democrats. Which is interesting since the Democratic Party bills itself as the party of inclusion. As Democrats we all have the same goals we want to achieve for the country and right now the discussion in the party is how best to reach these goals. I have never made it a secret that I’m not a big fan of how the more progressive wing wants to pay for archiving these goals. I honestly see a mountain of problems that could stop all together what we are trying to achieve as Democrats. And while I disagree with how the more progressive wing of the party wants to pay for things, it would never enter my head to tell them they aren’t “real” Democrats because they don’t see things the way I do. Now let’s try this again. Ladies I hope you guys have a great holiday season. You're reading things that aren't there. I have never ever mentioned or intimated that moderate Dems aren't 'real' Dems. And, as I already pointed out, the quote above didn't even REFERENCE Dems, it was about the media and cultural obsession w/the hypothetical 'moderate' who would be called a conservative in any other developed nation. I've got to say that I took it the same way Fred did. Honestly, as long as trump is in the white house, I will vote straight ticket blue, but I don't agree with a lot the far left is currently standing for. Once trump is gone, I could be swayed away from voting blue very quickly
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 8, 2019 3:35:58 GMT
so trump has to pay $2 million to charity due to the fraud of his charity. I want all candidates for Dems to pound over and over that trump collected millions for "the veterans" and then gave it to his election slush fund.. a total con.. lets see how that is justified by his base. I think I read that it did finally get to the veteran groups, but only after pressure. We all know he has no respect for our military and veterans!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 8, 2019 3:55:49 GMT
And now the mother fucking trump is saying how happy he is to be “donating” $2 million to charity.
They’re fines for damages you fucking idiot—
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 8, 2019 4:20:57 GMT
And now the mother fucking trump is saying how happy he is to be “donating” $2 million to charity. They’re fines for damages you fucking idiot— I thought he was going to fight it? Can't wait to block the memes from his supporters who believe his shit
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Post by dewryce on Nov 8, 2019 4:26:28 GMT
And now the mother fucking trump is saying how happy he is to be “donating” $2 million to charity. They’re fines for damages you fucking idiot— I thought he was going to fight it? Can't wait to block the memes from his supporters who believe his shit Not only that but didn’t he already take credit for this “donation” when this first went down?
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Post by dizzycheermom on Nov 8, 2019 6:16:43 GMT
**copied from her page on FB: Heather Cox Richardson 16 mins · November 7, 2019 (Thursday)
Lots of big stories today, so this is unusually long. Sorry about that.
The day started with Donald Trump Jr. on ABC's TV show The View, defending the fact he retweeted a Breitbart article that identified the name of the person that is allegedly the whistleblower. He defended his actions, then and throughout the day, by saying he was a "private citizen" sharing the information, and that the name had been so widely circulated it was no big deal to retweet it. (The person's identity has not been confirmed, and there are laws protecting whistleblowers.) Then he blamed the New York Times for providing identifying information about the whistleblower. The White House told a reporter that neither “the president nor any senior administration official was aware in advance that the president’s eldest son was going to tweet out the name of the alleged whistleblower," although it is worth noting that the president has repeatedly called for the name of the whistleblower to be made public.
Ironically, Don Jr. was on The View to promote his new book, Triggered, in which he apparently writes about the financial sacrifices the Trump family has made to run the country. It calls to task the "left" for its "victimhood complex," but much attention is already being paid to Don Jr.'s account of a visit to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery. Listening to the buglers as they approached the tomb, he "thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals to avoid the appearance that we were ‘profiting off the office.'” (The Washington Post Fact Checker gave four Pinocchios to statements from Don Jr. and Eric that the family had gotten out of "all international business.") Observers note that few people complain about their financial losses when they approach the Tomb of the Unknowns.
This was also the first day of Roger Stone's trial for lying to Congress about his relationship with Wikileaks and its release of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee before the 2016 election. The fact the federal judge presiding over the case warned the jurors not to watch "The Godfather" indicates just how badly it's going. Prosecutors revealed Stone's texted death threats to a colleague (and his dog!) who initially was willing to testify before Mueller's grand jury about the timeline of Stone's association with Wikileaks (but who ultimately refused to speak), while Stone's associate Alex Jones threatened to expose the jurors to his extremist followers. Already, Stone's lawyers have submitted evidence to the court that suggests Trump may well have known more about Stone's contacts with Julian Assange than Trump admitted in his written answers to Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
Also today, the New York Supreme Court ruled that Trump must pay $2 million in damages for taking charity money raised for veterans and using it for his 2016 campaign. This was a lawsuit Trump last year insisted he would not settle, but he did, and the settlement required him to admit wrongdoing, agreeing that he personally misused funds at the Trump Foundation before it was shut down permanently last year for "a shocking pattern of illegality." He also admitted that the Foundation's board of directors did not meet, oversee the Foundation, or function according to law. He was the chairman of that board. Further, the settlement requires Don, Jr., Ivanka, and Eric to report for mandatory training, and it requires Trump to submit to state oversight if he ever participates in another charity.
(I find it mind boggling that the United States president is prohibited from doing charitable work without supervision out of concern he will treat any monies raised as a personal piggy bank, but, well... welcome to 2019, I guess.)
Trump responded with a statement saying that he has suffered "4 years of politically motivated harassment," and complaining that the New York Attorney General refuses to investigate the Clinton Foundation, while "Every penny of the $19 million raised by the Trump Foundation went to hundreds of great charitable causes with almost no expenses." (Ironically, according to the fact checking site Politifact, this is true of the Clinton Foundation, not of the Trump Foundation.) This statement contradicts the terms of the settlement, and could land Trump back in court.
Also today (whew!) the Washington Post got its hands on an advance copy of "Anonymous," the book that purports to be written by a White House insider. It apparently portrays Trump as a loose cannon spewing racism, sexism, and craziness, but is vague so the person cannot be outed. This portrayal will infuriate the president, but we have to assume that a vague account by someone hiding in the shadows at the very least has a hidden agenda.
Meanwhile, reports say that former National Security Advisor John Bolton is willing to testify about the pressure on Ukraine coming from the president, Giuliani, and their team, apparently even talking about his conversations with Trump. And the Washington Post ran a story yesterday that Trump had asked Attorney General William Barr to give a news conference saying that he had not broken any laws in the call with Ukraine President Zelensky. Barr allegedly refused. The fact this story leaked now suggests that, for all his support for Trump, Barr sees the need to put daylight between the two of them. This does not bode well for the president.
What holds all these stories together, it seems to me, is that they show men who see the world as a zero sum transaction in which there are winners and losers, and in which the only currency is money and the only way to preserve dominance is with secrets and smears and lies and threats.
But that was not the only theme of the day. Congress also released the transcript of the testimony from George Kent, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eastern Europe. Kent called out the shadow foreign policy actors under Trump and Giuliani, saying that a request to Ukraine "to investigate or prosecute individuals for political reasons... goes against everything that we are trying to promote in post Soviet states for the last 28 years, which is the promotion of the rule of law." (261)
Kent noted that his appearance before the congressional investigating committees involved "enormous professional and personal cost," but he did it "In the same spirit that I have brought to my entire career, as a Foreign Service officer and State Department employee, who has sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Outlining a history that offered powerful contrast to that of the people in the other news of the day, Kent continued: "There has been a George Kent sworn to service in defense of the Constitution and U.S. national interests for nearly 60 consecutive years and counting, ever since my father was sworn in as a midshipman at Annapolis in June 1961, commissioned in 1965, after finishing first in his class, and serving honorably for 30 years, including as captain of a ballistic missile nuclear submarine. Principled service to country and community remains an honorable professional choice." (17-18).
Amen.
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Post by gar on Nov 8, 2019 7:46:48 GMT
Just thought I'd let you enjoy this ![:smile:](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Trump and his wall. Clip
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 8, 2019 14:21:27 GMT
It’s the same theory that if you keep throwing handfuls of crap at a wall eventually some of it is going to stick. Oy.
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Post by sueg on Nov 8, 2019 14:37:31 GMT
Sounds like she’ll fit in just right with DT then!
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Post by kmcginn on Nov 8, 2019 14:57:22 GMT
After seeing what John Kennedy said at Trump's rally in LA, I am embarrassed to admit he is my Senator. He's an ASS and I can't stand him.
I have written to him several times to let him know how I feel about the things he says and does, but have never gotten a response. I wrote to Scalise too, and that just put me on his mailing list.
They are both cowards and I told that to both of them.
Unfortunately, LA will never be anything but a red state, and although I always vote, my vote never counts. I can only hope our Democratic Governor pulls out another win!
Please don't hold it against me that LA is so crooked politically! I love my city and state but I can't stand our politics!
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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 8, 2019 15:17:06 GMT
After seeing what John Kennedy said at Trump's rally in LA, I am embarrassed to admit he is my Senator. My condolences. I was also shocked at what he said. Let's compare: John Kennedy is a Junior Senator and was formerly a Democrat. He has been a senator for TWO years. He had previously served a LA Treasurer. Nancy Pelosi has served 17 terms in Congress, and this is her second stint as Speaker of the House. She is second in line of succession to the Presidency. Which means that if 'dimwit donnie' goes down, and Pence follows (and the evidence is pointing out that Pence is also up to his neck in this bull), then Pelosi is president. So Kennedy might want to watch his misogynist, gee shucks shtick when referring to the most powerful woman in government, (and certainly of stature higher than the JR senator from LA.).
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Post by kmcginn on Nov 8, 2019 16:48:00 GMT
Thanks, Artgirl1. I may write to him again and use some of your comparisons - I like that!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 8, 2019 17:07:48 GMT
Unfortunately, LA will never be anything but a red state, and although I always vote, my vote never counts. I can only hope our Democratic Governor pulls out another win! Just remember that dt has, since the election, been bothered that he LOST the popular vote. Your vote has served a purpose. Your vote and 3+ million other votes have irritated him each and every day!!
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Post by kmcginn on Nov 8, 2019 17:16:26 GMT
First he says it's illegal to have depositions behind closed doors. Now he says they shouldn't be having public hearings! He can't have it both ways!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 17:25:36 GMT
First he says it's illegal to have depositions behind closed doors. Now he says they shouldn't be having public hearings! He can't have it both ways! Yes. He can. As long as his gullible base let's him... Consequence free living - brought to you by the mind-numb and brainwashed.
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Post by coffeetalk on Nov 8, 2019 18:12:49 GMT
Holy Shit! Literally.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 8, 2019 19:20:47 GMT
There may still be hope!!
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Post by dewryce on Nov 8, 2019 19:27:22 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 8, 2019 19:31:29 GMT
Trumpers are truly afraid of the inquiry!! (Not done with Jordan yet!!) * House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Friday that Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will be placed on the House Intelligence Committee for the duration of the impeachment inquiry.Jordan, who currently serves as the top Republican on the Oversight and Reform Committee and is one of President Trump's most vocal defenders in the lower chamber, has played a leading role in the impeachment hearings held behind closed doors. He will temporarily take Rep. Rick Crawford's (R-Ark.) place on the Intelligence panel as House Democrats ramp up their investigation into Trump's dealings with Ukraine and begin holding public hearings next week for their inquiry. " Rick is an exemplary member of the House Intelligence Committee and fulfills his oversight responsibilities with a sense of seriousness, thoughtfulness, and dedication to our country," McCarthy said in a statement Friday. ** thehill.com/homenews/house/469629-mccarthy-adds-jordan-to-intel-panel-for-impeachment-probeIF Rick Crawford is an EXEMPLARY member, why is he not good enough to continue to serve? Shame on McCarthy. Nothing like stabbing your own member n the back!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 8, 2019 19:49:50 GMT
Calls grow for Jim Jordan to resign over refusal to confront sexual misconduct as #JimJordanKnew trendsPublished 5 hours ago on November 8, 2019By David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement A new lawsuit filed Thursday has reminded America U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) still stands accused by multiple people that he knew of sexual misconduct and abuse at Ohio State, when he served as an asst. coach, yet did nothing. Thursday’s lawsuit, alleges a referee told Jordan the team doctor masturbated in the shower in front of him, yet Jordan took no action, saying, “Yeah, yeah, we know.” That doctor was found to have abused 177 students.Outrage and calls are growing for Congressman Jordan, a grenade-throwing conspiracy theorist bulldog who’s devoted recent years to defending President Trump, to resign. After Thursday’s devastating report, Friday morning #JimJordanKnew has been trending on social media. ** More at link: www.rawstory.com/2019/11/calls-grow-for-jim-jordan-to-resign-over-refusal-to-confront-sexual-misconduct-as-jimjordanknew-trends/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2935&recip_id=304309&list_id=1
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