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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 0:16:58 GMT
Glory!!
I'll see your Culture War and Raise you a Kingdom War!
This'll end well.
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Post by MissBianca on Apr 28, 2021 0:34:45 GMT
I don’t even know where to start with that one.
Brainwashed cult. Guys like them are part of the reason why people are walking away from the church. It’s a major part of why if it weren’t for Covid I would have pulled my daughter from her school. I can only imagine how bad the nuns got after trump lost. But they are right about one thing, There is no Republican Party anymore, it’s Magats vs everyone else. I feel bad for never-trumper or walk away from trump conservatives. They don’t have a party anymore. We are doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 0:42:17 GMT
We're not though. People are finally waking up to what's been happening in too many dark corners of America over the past 40 years. Here's the good news. The "nones" - those w/o organized religion are now the LARGEST VOTING BLOC. You wouldn't know it though the way our system is canted toward the Christian Nationalists via small and/or rural states/counties. But it's changing. We'll get there.  Analysis of this dataset:https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.7910/DVN/E9N6PH
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 28, 2021 1:28:11 GMT
Fantastic. Further brainwashing from flat earthers. He wants to return the US to a more Christian nation. Good luck with that, fella. He’ll be black and blue from all of the 10 foot poles poking at him.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 28, 2021 1:44:12 GMT
gahhhhh
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 28, 2021 4:34:55 GMT
Well, he’s got one thing right. There certainly seem to be a lot of “sheep” out there ready to buy that load of crap hook line and sinker. SMDH.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 4:56:58 GMT
Well, he’s got one thing right. He got two things right. "Move your butts out of the seats and stop giving them money." It's all about the cash.
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Post by drummergirl65 on Apr 28, 2021 5:28:56 GMT
I'm just gobsmacked that church and politics have mixed together! I attend a non denominational church and never ever hear politics from the pulpit. I'm in Canada and I've never attended a church where that has happened. It's just so weird to me.
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 28, 2021 10:38:56 GMT
I don’t even know where to start with that one. Brainwashed cult. Guys like them are part of the reason why people are walking away from the church. It’s a major part of why if it weren’t for Covid I would have pulled my daughter from her school. I can only imagine how bad the nuns got after trump lost. But they are right about one thing, There is no Republican Party anymore, it’s Magats vs everyone else. I feel bad for never-trumper or walk away from trump conservatives. They don’t have a party anymore. We are doomed. You would have pulled your daughter from a Catholic school (you mentioned nuns so I'm assuming Roman Catholic) because of some wacko "patriot" cult? Why? Also, the Catholic Church is not overwhelmingly pro-trump so I don't understand why you think the nuns would have acted negatively toward students because trump lost. Is there more to this story than you posted?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 28, 2021 15:37:14 GMT
I don’t even know where to start with that one. Brainwashed cult. Guys like them are part of the reason why people are walking away from the church. It’s a major part of why if it weren’t for Covid I would have pulled my daughter from her school. I can only imagine how bad the nuns got after trump lost. But they are right about one thing, There is no Republican Party anymore, it’s Magats vs everyone else. I feel bad for never-trumper or walk away from trump conservatives. They don’t have a party anymore. We are doomed. You would have pulled your daughter from a Catholic school (you mentioned nuns so I'm assuming Roman Catholic) because of some wacko "patriot" cult? Why? Also, the Catholic Church is not overwhelmingly pro-trump so I don't understand why you think the nuns would have acted negatively toward students because trump lost. Is there more to this story than you posted? I was raised Catholic, and while I don’t consider myself one I know a lot who do. Most of the more devout Catholics that I personally know heavily favored Trump.
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 28, 2021 15:52:44 GMT
You would have pulled your daughter from a Catholic school (you mentioned nuns so I'm assuming Roman Catholic) because of some wacko "patriot" cult? Why? Also, the Catholic Church is not overwhelmingly pro-trump so I don't understand why you think the nuns would have acted negatively toward students because trump lost. Is there more to this story than you posted? I was raised Catholic, and while I don’t consider myself one I know a lot who do. Most of the more devout Catholics that I personally know heavily favored Trump. You must have a particularly conservative bunch near you then, because that's not at all the Catholic church I know. Google "Catholic Day of Action" or "nuns arrested at Capitol" to see what goes on around here. Here's the priest who baptized both of my kids. Fr. Creedon embodies so much of what I think of when I think of the social justice side of the Catholic Church. Activist priest
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 28, 2021 16:33:53 GMT
I was raised Catholic, and while I don’t consider myself one I know a lot who do. Most of the more devout Catholics that I personally know heavily favored Trump. You must have a particularly conservative bunch near you then, because that's not at all the Catholic church I know. Google "Catholic Day of Action" or "nuns arrested at Capitol" to see what goes on around here. Here's the priest who baptized both of my kids. Fr. Creedon embodies so much of what I think of when I think of the social justice side of the Catholic Church. Activist priestI really don’t understand it myself. I just look at these people I know who claim to be “Christians” and am truly appalled by some of the things they say and do. There doesn’t seem to be much thought given to “WWJD” anymore by that crowd.
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Post by snugglebutter on Apr 28, 2021 16:50:10 GMT
I was raised Catholic, and while I don’t consider myself one I know a lot who do. Most of the more devout Catholics that I personally know heavily favored Trump. You must have a particularly conservative bunch near you then, because that's not at all the Catholic church I know. Google "Catholic Day of Action" or "nuns arrested at Capitol" to see what goes on around here. Here's the priest who baptized both of my kids. Fr. Creedon embodies so much of what I think of when I think of the social justice side of the Catholic Church. Activist priest
I know a number of conservative Catholics and they aren't so much pro-trump as they are militantly "pro-life" voters.
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Post by MissBianca on Apr 28, 2021 17:00:36 GMT
I don’t even know where to start with that one. Brainwashed cult. Guys like them are part of the reason why people are walking away from the church. It’s a major part of why if it weren’t for Covid I would have pulled my daughter from her school. I can only imagine how bad the nuns got after trump lost. But they are right about one thing, There is no Republican Party anymore, it’s Magats vs everyone else. I feel bad for never-trumper or walk away from trump conservatives. They don’t have a party anymore. We are doomed. You would have pulled your daughter from a Catholic school (you mentioned nuns so I'm assuming Roman Catholic) because of some wacko "patriot" cult? Why? Also, the Catholic Church is not overwhelmingly pro-trump so I don't understand why you think the nuns would have acted negatively toward students because trump lost. Is there more to this story than you posted? Oh where to start. Now my kids had been there since 2010, the only newish teacher was the religion teacher. Things started to shift after trump became president. Their bigotry and racism was shining through, they usually kept their opinions to themselves until after trump came into the picture. History teacher called students who wore black hoodies Antifa and thugs. History teacher said Hillary was a commie, and other derogatory things. History teacher equated trans kids to cats in cow suits, they are still cats. History teacher said that our town would be nice if there weren’t so many black people. The kids were told that slavery was a good thing. Mexicans are dirty and bring drugs and crime to our country. This goes with the elementary school para complaining about Mexicans where she lives and was mad when the school in the Hispanic community closed and those kids now attend the school she works at. When a student expresses themselves as liberal or anti-trump they become a target for bullying from teachers and students. This includes drops in grades for no reason. My DD went from being a A student to a C/D student. Assignments would magically go missing or they would “forget” to grade them. It got to the point that the science teacher (also homeroom) would collect all of the assignments for every class and grade and copy them before handing them to the right teacher. Religion teacher screamed at my child and gave her 3 detentions for doing the wrong homework while a Trump supporter got a weeks extension for doing the same assignment. Comments from the history teacher, the religion teacher and the principal about Obama being from Kenya. They also refused to put his photo up in school but Trumps is still there. A student told my DD’s BFF to go back to the country she came from with no repercussions. The teachers laughed. A student with PTSD was continually a target. She dropped a water bottle and was screamed at, if she cried she was mocked and laughed at by teachers. She’s also very vocal about being liberal. The history teacher was the worst of it. If we complained to the principal the history teacher would deny it. Then the kids were told to keep their mouths shut to the parents and stop getting the teacher in trouble. If you complained you were disciplined for not obeying the adults. This list goes on. Now DD has since graduated but the few people I talk to have said it’s gotten a lot worse. The Capitol riot was praised but BLM are terrorists. After that, one family who has been there for 3 generations pulled their kids. And a lot of friends have left the church too, all of this has carried over into the sermons. This particular diocese as a whole is very pro-trump.
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Post by MissBianca on Apr 28, 2021 17:07:59 GMT
You must have a particularly conservative bunch near you then, because that's not at all the Catholic church I know. Google "Catholic Day of Action" or "nuns arrested at Capitol" to see what goes on around here. Here's the priest who baptized both of my kids. Fr. Creedon embodies so much of what I think of when I think of the social justice side of the Catholic Church. Activist priestI really don’t understand it myself. I just look at these people I know who claim to be “Christians” and am truly appalled by some of the things they say and do. There doesn’t seem to be much thought given to “WWJD” anymore by that crowd. I heard a really good quote from a pastor in an NPR interview. He said he sees a lot of church goers on Sunday but not a lot of Christians. That spoke volumes to me and what I saw at DD’s school and church.
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Post by mimix3 on Apr 28, 2021 17:31:07 GMT
I have completely given up any kind of religion or Christianity since I saw what was happening with the trumpers. In my area at least, if they are trumpers, they also claim to be Christians. They will be the first to complain about BLM, protest, open borders, etc. etc. and then praise the lord on Sunday morning. I have read the bible front to back several times. I have studied it (pardon the pun) religiously and I do not understand where the two go hand in hand.
Love thy neighbor, honor thy father............. does not sound to me like we should hate blacks, mexicans, or any members of the gay community. But that is what I get around here. So I just dumped it. I am sure I will make some here angry, but I think the whole thing is bull shit. I sit now and wonder how I believed before. I just don't anymore, and I don't know how I could be convinced otherwise.
BTW totally not shocked that these dumbasses are from Tennessee. Welcome to my personal hell.
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 28, 2021 17:58:16 GMT
I have completely given up any kind of religion or Christianity since I saw what was happening with the trumpers. In my area at least, if they are trumpers, they also claim to be Christians. They will be the first to complain about BLM, protest, open borders, etc. etc. and then praise the lord on Sunday morning. I have read the bible front to back several times. I have studied it (pardon the pun) religiously and I do not understand where the two go hand in hand. Love thy neighbor, honor thy father............. does not sound to me like we should hate blacks, mexicans, or any members of the gay community. But that is what I get around here. So I just dumped it. I am sure I will make some here angry, but I think the whole thing is bull shit. I sit now and wonder how I believed before. I just don't anymore, and I don't know how I could be convinced otherwise. BTW totally not shocked that these dumbasses are from Tennessee. Welcome to my personal hell. I really wish that people like you could live in an area like where I do. If you were still interested in exploring a faith community we have SO many lovely progressive ones, not just Christian but other faiths as well. I'm sorry your "personal hell" has to be that way. 
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 28, 2021 18:05:48 GMT
You must have a particularly conservative bunch near you then, because that's not at all the Catholic church I know. Google "Catholic Day of Action" or "nuns arrested at Capitol" to see what goes on around here. Here's the priest who baptized both of my kids. Fr. Creedon embodies so much of what I think of when I think of the social justice side of the Catholic Church. Activist priest
I know a number of conservative Catholics and they aren't so much pro-trump as they are militantly "pro-life" voters.
The ones I know are both. 😕 From their reaction when Biden won the election, you would think the whole world was coming to a screeching halt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 18:24:01 GMT
History teacher called students who wore black hoodies Antifa and thugs. History teacher said Hillary was a commie, and other derogatory things. History teacher equated trans kids to cats in cow suits, they are still cats. History teacher said that our town would be nice if there weren’t so many black people. The kids were told that slavery was a good thing. Mexicans are dirty and bring drugs and crime to our country. Holy crap. [pun intended] Love thy neighbor, honor thy father............. does not sound to me like we should hate blacks, mexicans, or any members of the gay community. They will say "We don't HATE them! We LOVE them! We just don't want them in our country (Mexicans) or intermarrying w/our lily white children (blacks) or doing that icky gay sex thing (LGTBQ). They are convinced they're full of the love of god when really, they're full of sh(#*$.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 28, 2021 18:31:38 GMT
We're not though. People are finally waking up to what's been happening in too many dark corners of America over the past 40 years. Here's the good news. The "nones" - those w/o organized religion are now the LARGEST VOTING BLOC. You wouldn't know it though the way our system is canted toward the Christian Nationalists via small and/or rural states/counties. But it's changing. We'll get there.  Analysis of this dataset:https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.7910/DVN/E9N6PH I wish I had your faith/hope that we’d improve. But with the onslaught of new voting requirements I’m not that hopeful. They just need the right mix of hurdles to jump over to vote to cancel enough people from voting. And Lordy they sure are trying.
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Post by MissBianca on Apr 29, 2021 3:05:51 GMT
History teacher called students who wore black hoodies Antifa and thugs. History teacher said Hillary was a commie, and other derogatory things. History teacher equated trans kids to cats in cow suits, they are still cats. History teacher said that our town would be nice if there weren’t so many black people. The kids were told that slavery was a good thing. Mexicans are dirty and bring drugs and crime to our country. Holy crap. [pun intended] Love thy neighbor, honor thy father............. does not sound to me like we should hate blacks, mexicans, or any members of the gay community. They will say "We don't HATE them! We LOVE them! We just don't want them in our country (Mexicans) or intermarrying w/our lily white children (blacks) or doing that icky gay sex thing (LGTBQ). They are convinced they're full of the love of god when really, they're full of sh(#*$. Yeah the history teacher was a piece of work. And what’s crazy is she was the 4th grade teacher when I sent my kids to school there and she really helped DS19 love school again. We left public schooling part because he was being bullied by 2 teachers and completely shut down. She turned him around but then she lost all sense when trump won. At our school/church it’s not even that everyone at the school hate BIPOC and LGBTQ+ it’s that they think they are better than everyone else. Like they are doing it, whatever it is, better than everyone else. The arrogance, which is what I see with the Patriot Church, is what gets me. I It was like their holiness was a competition.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 29, 2021 16:14:49 GMT
We're not though. People are finally waking up to what's been happening in too many dark corners of America over the past 40 years. Here's the good news. The "nones" - those w/o organized religion are now the LARGEST VOTING BLOC. You wouldn't know it though the way our system is canted toward the Christian Nationalists via small and/or rural states/counties. But it's changing. We'll get there.  Analysis of this dataset:https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.7910/DVN/E9N6PH ALL those Muslims sure are a threat! In fact, all the ones at the bottom of the chart are..........
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Post by pierogi on Apr 29, 2021 17:02:53 GMT
Churches need to be taxed. Now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 17:20:30 GMT
Churches need to be taxed. Now. I think the large ones, perhaps. But ALL churches should have to file 990s just like any other non-profit.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Apr 29, 2021 21:25:46 GMT
What happened to the separation of state and religion?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 29, 2021 22:11:29 GMT
I know a number of conservative Catholics and they aren't so much pro-trump as they are militantly "pro-life" voters. Surely NOT pro-life. The best they could be called are pro-birth. Life needs food, medicine, housing, and all the others things that sustain life.
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