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Post by trollie on Jul 2, 2019 8:43:35 GMT
You should try to track down that bride and give her her pictures. Just say that you found them after all these years. I thought about it, but it would have been worse for her to see how awful she looked. She wore an kind of a plain hippie dress , with no bra, a huge wreath on her head ( it was the size of a door wreath) and she didn’t bother to comb her hair ( he actually comb her hair) or wear shoes. Today you would say she looked homeless. My father worked very hard to give her some nice photos, and he didn’t charge her. So I guess I am not clear... did your Dad give her pictures or not?
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Post by trollie on Jul 2, 2019 4:17:10 GMT
Saw it and thought it was a great summer movie. Unfortunately, something was going on in the theatre at the climax of the movie and I missed exactly what happened at the freaking turning point. Whatevs. Creative, funny and was awesome to hear all those Beatles tunes.
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Post by trollie on Jul 2, 2019 4:04:59 GMT
This is from the photographer side. My father “lost” one wedding. Way before digital. He pulled out a few photos and worked like hell to make them look nice. I found the proofs years later and asked him about them. He said that she was the homileliest bride he ever took photos of. He tried everything to get her to at least smile. Nothing work. He said that if he actually gave her the photos it would ruin his reputation as the area’s leading wedding photographer. He could not risk those photos getting out. I'm sorry, but that is terrible and very unprofessional. Only "pretty" brides deserve photos? You should try to track down that bride and give her her pictures. Just say that you found them after all these years.
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Post by trollie on Jul 2, 2019 4:02:30 GMT
This is from the photographer side. My father “lost” one wedding. Way before digital. He pulled out a few photos and worked like hell to make them look nice. I found the proofs years later and asked him about them. He said that she was the homileliest bride he ever took photos of. He tried everything to get her to at least smile. Nothing work. He said that if he actually gave her the photos it would ruin his reputation as the area’s leading wedding photographer. He could not risk those photos getting out. I'm sorry, but that is terrible and very unprofessional. Only "pretty" brides deserve photos?
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Post by trollie on Jul 1, 2019 15:04:26 GMT
They spent WAY TOO MUCH time on the stinky challenge. Love the twist and love who got it.
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Beautiful!
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 22:45:09 GMT
So, now it is personal shots? Totally unnecessary. Come on, Darcy you are better than that. I didn’t take personal shots at you at least that was not my intent. Sorry if I sounded that way. I am not responsible for other people’s posts here or on Twitter. I went to the twitter page and read the comments. I saw quite a few posters who feel like you do. There are also quite a few people on this thread who don’t appreciate the sexist comments either. Hey if you want to call me out with the word no one completely ignoring the OP - whatever. The entire OP is offensive. And yes I am more than entitled to point out that very, very few took issue with it in their quest to jump on the Ivanka is an idiot bandwagon. I'll post my final thoughts and let you all carry on. I've spent my entire adult life working in predominantly male fields. I've dealt with it and even thrived and would have said I learned long ago to ignore the bullshit. A few weeks ago my daughter's team won a hacking competition and there was a little blurb about them in the local paper including a picture. I made the mistake of reading the comments. Barbie was just one of the comments directed at my extremely intelligent - but yes blonde and attractive daughter. The multitude of assumptions about her based on her appearance pisses me off. I guess I'd naively thought we'd made some progress in how we judge and yes criticize other women. But we haven't and it makes me alternate between sad and really, really mad. In a handful of months, the general public will be taking a look at the Democratic field which includes several women. I'd say don't be surprised at the language people use choose to criticize them - we've demonstrated over and over again as a society that even women will turn a blind eye and don't be surprised when large segments of the population will dismiss them out of hand. Won't be surprised AT ALL. Why are you? Hillary got plenty of sexist remarks and criticisms during the 2016 election as did Michelle Obama during her husband's administration. (Add racist to Michelle criticisms, some of which came from women!) I have no doubt that it will happen to Harris or Warren if one of those 2 and up being on the Democratic ticket. It is not right and it is certainly not fair. We have come a long way, but still have a long way to go. I still contend that NONE of the posters on this thread referred to Ivanka inappropriately. Sorry to hear about the treatment of your daughter. Her achievements are incredible. Women are constantly being marginalized. Hopefully that will be different in the future.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 22:25:45 GMT
I am so incredibly sorry.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 22:09:12 GMT
Ha! I read your post as: Pardon, I was imagining and alternate timeline to the fuckening... I will now always think of Trump taking office as The Fuckening. Thank you. It works! Sadly
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 22:05:15 GMT
Chelsea Clinton was a teenager during her father's presidency. Pardon, I was imagining an alternate timeline to this fucking hellmouth in which the President Clinton mentioned was not Bill, but Hillary. Go off, though. Ha! I read your post as: Pardon, I was imagining and alternate timeline to the fuckening... I will now always think of Trump taking office as The Fuckening. Thank you.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 21:52:50 GMT
And she has a doctorate in International relations. Ivanka has a Bachelor’s in selling plastic purses. Chelsea Clinton was a teenager during her father's presidency. An adult if Hillary would have won
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 21:51:24 GMT
I've been trying to decide how I feel about this. Did he bring Melania? Most first ladies do some diplomatic work. Is Ivanka replacing Melania for this? Spouses typically go to the G20 - it's where Michelle Obama was heavily criticized for "hugging" the Queen - which was ridiculous - but we do love to tear our women down, don't we. You can see a bunch of pictures of the current G20 summit including spouses. It's been abundantly clear for some time that Ivanka is filling the role of first lady instead of Melania - for whatever reason. It's not the first time a child has stood in as first lady, although this situation is exacerbated by the fact that there is an actual, current, living wife. I do wonder why women are so quick to jump into misogynistic language about other women. It doesn't look good whatever your political persuasion. I find the Trumps rather easy to criticize on their merits - or lack thereof. I do not see misogynistic posts on this thread. My "gross" is for the sheer negligence of this administration in every aspect of their governance. Honestly, I think gross is a gross understatement. Carry on!
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 20:19:44 GMT
What the eff is up with that? Why is the cost so high when these children aren't getting soap or toothbrushes or even adequate adult care and supervision? What private entities are profiting from this and how the hell do they sleep at night? Because everything in this country has been privatized, schools, prisons, war. These private companies are making a ton of money. Prisons should not have been privatized. Profiting off incarcerated people is just gross. Like I said, I don't understand how the owners of these companies sleep at night.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 19:57:42 GMT
Maybe we should start measuring the price of things in more easily-understandable units. We are currently spending $750 per night per child to keep children locked up in camps. I will host a child in my home for 16 days at no cost. That is $12K that can go towards paying tuition for a college student at one of the state universities in my state. Heck, give me FOUR children for 16 days and I'll cover tuition for someone to get their entire bachelor's degree. What the eff is up with that? Why is the cost so high when these children aren't getting soap or toothbrushes or even adequate adult care and supervision? What private entities are profiting from this and how the hell do they sleep at night?
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 19:18:40 GMT
Gross
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 18:10:25 GMT
Has anyone tried the hot chocolate mix? Looking for suggestions. Definitely doing the sandwich sprinkle!
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 17:27:09 GMT
Bold mine in Mom's quote. Not everyone has parents who can or will guide them. And some of these parents have not gone to college or know the first thing about it. Yes - obviously not everyone has parents that care. BUT there are many, many more who are just having their kids sign on the dotted line without thinking realistically about how these kids are going to pay for it later. Also? There are other people who can/will step in off they are asked to. THOSE people need to be really honest about what the students future will look like with thousands of dollars in loans. I am that person for a friend of my oldest son. We meet usually 2-3x a year and reevaluate where he is and where he wants to go. When he graduated with my son, he was left with no way to pay for a 4 year school (his parents are there but refuse to help with anything). I helped him get enrolled in our community college and he has been there for 2 years now. He is 3 hours short of getting his associates degree. He has paid for his college out of his own pocket, as he went. He works and that money goes to his school. It isn't easy but he is doing it. His next step is enlisting. He is planning on going to the Air Force so he can continue with his education. He is lucky to have a friend like you.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 16:50:33 GMT
After what the Kim regime did to Otto Warmbier and other innocents, including his own people.... This is truly disgusting.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 16:46:22 GMT
And for the record, I don't think debt should be completely eliminated, but interest rates on the loans should be lowered, and there should be a way for students to offset their debt by participating in community service or using their degree in the community that helped them achieve it.
More money in the hands of average Americans will mean more money in our economy. The average American will spend that money, because they want to and in many cases it's a necessity.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 16:37:54 GMT
No, I don’t think college debt forgiveness is a good idea. I believe that parents and children need to start being more realistic in their college choices. Opt for the affordable choice instead of the most prestigious, quit taking on huge amounts of debt for a degree in a low paying field, and stop pushing the idea that everyone must go to college. I have a college-aged DS so I’m very aware of the cost of college now. DH and I have worked very hard to be able to afford to send our son to school debt free. We made this a priority through out our life and have sacrificed to make it happen. We have seen several different scenarios from DS’s friends regarding college this past year. A few have gone to our local CC for free under a program our county has that requires them to do 40 hours of service per semester. One went to a private school and didn’t make very good grades and I’m not sure what he is doing next. Another went to the same school as DS and made poor grades first semester and did badly in the spring and ending up leaving towards the end of the semester. He is not going back and probably shouldn’t have gone in the first place. He wasn’t ready and didn’t have the maturity to handle being away from home. The point is everyone is different and needs to do what is right for them. Attending a 4 year university and living away from home isn’t the right choice for everyone.
i don’t understand why our society has no problem thinking that anyone should be able to spend a fortune and take on huge debt for a college education. We wouldn’t support the idea that anyone should be able to finance any amount of money for a home or a car. We need to get back in the mindset of doing what we can afford. And yes, I know a college education is different than a house or a car, but we still need to look at it realistically. Going into debt for 150k to go into a field that pays 40k a year is ludicrous. A lot of college debt money is going towards the college experience rather than the college education. YES! The idea that anyone and everyone should be able to go to whatever college they want to (as long as they can take out a loan) is nuts to me. You go where you can afford or go into the military so they will pay for it. We had a very real conversation with both of our kids about what we had saved, how much college costs, etc. They knew they weren't getting a blank check. Both took classes at a community college so we saved money there. One lived at home for two years. Both have jobs where they work 20+ a week to pay for books, etc. The reality is at 18 years old, most kids cannot grasp what it will really be like when they have to pay back tens of thousands (or more) of dollars in loans. Thats where parents should step in and help guide them. Help them see that taking 100K in loans to be a social worker isn't a good idea. Yet, it seems most parents are shoving their kids to take out loans and not know how they will pay them back. But encouraging kids to take out all these loans and then expecting the government to wipe them clean is beyond me. If you take them out then you need to be held accountable in paying them back. Personal responsibility is a real thing. Bold mine in Mom's quote. Not everyone has parents who can or will guide them. And some of these parents have not gone to college or know the first thing about it.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 14:19:55 GMT
This man ( not a real man in any sense of the word ) will do anything to draw attention to himself. For his base. I’m sure he has quite a few more tricks up his sleeve between now and closer to when Mueller testifies. So true. Photo Op. Plain and simple. The right would have been tearing their freaking hair out if Obama had pulled this shit.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 14:16:27 GMT
I cannot drink gin. Sound like a refreshing drink!
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 14:10:04 GMT
What I meant is that if it was harder to get student loans, fewer people would go to college and demand would decrease. With decreased demand the prices (tuition) would decrease as colleges have to get more competitive to get those dollars. I understood your initial post. Less students would mean higher tuition. It cannot mean lower tuition. It just does not make sense. Simple economics.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 14:04:04 GMT
They are super fun! Be careful!
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 14:00:45 GMT
My daughter's favorite book was Dr. Suess' ABC. She was obsessed.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 13:57:11 GMT
Sadly, it is far too appropriate.
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Post by trollie on Jun 30, 2019 1:22:27 GMT
Absolutely not! I paid my student loan back myself. I see too many students that can’t find a job after college turn around and get a masters to defer having to make payments on their student loans. They dig themselves a deeper hole. My neighbor told me that if student loans weren’t so easy to get fewer people would be able to go to college which would drive college tuition down. I don’t disagree with that theory. This doesn't make sense. Less students would mean higher tuition rates. Supply/Demand.
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Post by trollie on Jun 29, 2019 23:50:53 GMT
Awesome!! Thank you!
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Post by trollie on Jun 29, 2019 19:31:42 GMT
Ended up with a dish style feeder like you suggested! Thank you! Love it!
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Post by trollie on Jun 29, 2019 19:30:07 GMT
I purchased this one! thank you! I love it!
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