craftymom101
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,608
Jul 31, 2014 5:23:25 GMT
|
Post by craftymom101 on Dec 8, 2019 1:00:20 GMT
I've decided the husband in this ad is abusive and the wife is training to fight back a la Jennifer Lopez in "Enough". I hope the follow up video is her kicking him in the Peletons and leaving to live her best life. 😂 I don't think the ad is sexist so much as it is weird and totally off the mark. This beautiful, already thin woman has "transformed"...into the exact same woman after a year with Peleton. “kicking him in the Peletons” had me laughing hysterically! Thanks for that! 😂
|
|
|
Post by beaglemom on Dec 8, 2019 6:04:25 GMT
My dh bought my my Peloton as a belated Christmas gift last year. Here is part of my story... I did a half Ironman (1.2 mil swim, 56 mile bike, 13.1 run) within a year and a half of having babies 1-3. I trained enough to get through them. With #1 and #3 I got pregnant with the next within a month or so. And with pregnancies #3 and #4 I wasn't allowed to run while pregnant due to bladder prolapse after #2. I swam growing up, so that was always the "easy" part. As long as I get back in the water a decent amount before the race it comes back without too much effort. My husband bought me my first pair of running shoes for my 21st birthday. I have never "enjoyed" running but have done it because it was good for me and because I could do it with my mom or my husband. I have never been fast. Biking was something I did to get through the race. It was always the last thing I came back to after being pregnant and the first thing I stopped doing after a race. Baby #4 arrived in March 2018. I developed a stress fracture in my foot, so I had a good excuse to not have to be running. And I don't have reliable childcare, so biking was out. I have really struggled after baby #4. Postpartum depression, weight is the highest I have ever been, seriously lacking motivation. My husband bought me the peloton as a belated Christmas present in January 2019. I LOVE it. I have done 279 rides since I got it. With the app I have also done 129 stretching workouts, 46 meditation, 35 walking, 19 strength, 18 running, 6 yoga, and 1 bootcamp workout. I was supposed to be doing my 4th and final half Ironman tomorrow but developed another stress fracture (in the other foot), so until that is healed I am biking. I got up at 4:45 on Thanksgiving so I could do the live Thanksgiving ride - with 16,000 other riders. I couldn't do the one that was at 8am west coast because we were doing a 5k with our kids. But there were over 20,000 people on that ride. One of the key things that Peloton has done right is that they have totally harnessed social media. Every coach encourages you to find your tribe - the group that you fit with that will encourage you. They have tribes (FB groups) for everything you can imagine. I have a handful that I love and know that I could post on any of them and get awesome support for anything I was going through. On all of the groups everyone has been sharing their thoughts on the ad. The most common thought/thread that has shone through on all of them is how if you don't have the bike you don't get it. ***which yes, means Peloton missed the mark*** But for so many it is about so much more than losing weight. It is about having a way/place to do something for yourself. A way to work through anxiety, depression, crazy kids, whatever you might need. It is about giving yourself time in your day to do something just for you. The group I love the most is the XXL Tribe. The two people that lead it are incredible and very inspiring. One of them, Richelle Martin, has been working with Peloton to help them make things more inclusive. From having workout clothes that go up to 4xl, to adaptations in yoga, strength and core workouts. She is absolutely freakin' amazing. And she was interviewed by her local radio station about her thoughts about the ad. PeloBeachMama ArticleSo I get that many people thought the ad was inappropriate, I do think it missed the mark a bit! But there is so much more to Peloton and I for one am so thankful that my husband bought me one for Christmas. And as much as I wish I had, I haven't lost any weight, but that is on me and my eating habits, not Peloton. I know I am much stronger and I love getting on my bike!
|
|
craftykitten
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,304
Jun 26, 2014 7:39:32 GMT
|
Post by craftykitten on Dec 8, 2019 6:09:46 GMT
You see, beaglemom, that sounds awesome! And you wouldn't know any of it from the advert.
|
|
nogfz
Full Member
Posts: 219
Aug 3, 2019 21:32:31 GMT
|
Post by nogfz on Dec 8, 2019 6:33:38 GMT
You see, beaglemom , that sounds awesome! And you wouldn't know any of it from the advert. Could it be that most people's reaction was to imagine a NEGATIVE backstory? It could have been just as easy to imagine a positive one like beaglemom's. ETA: I do sincerely hope that we are not reaching a time where advertisements need to spoon-feed us what we are supposed to 'get' from their commercials and whatnot. Heaven forbid we choose to come away with a positive message instead of a negative if we haven't been told EXACTLY how to interpret things.
|
|
craftykitten
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,304
Jun 26, 2014 7:39:32 GMT
|
Post by craftykitten on Dec 8, 2019 7:39:38 GMT
You see, beaglemom , that sounds awesome! And you wouldn't know any of it from the advert. Could it be that most people's reaction was to imagine a NEGATIVE backstory? It could have been just as easy to imagine a positive one like beaglemom's. ETA: I do sincerely hope that we are not reaching a time where advertisements need to spoon-feed us what we are supposed to 'get' from their commercials and whatnot. Heaven forbid we choose to come away with a positive message instead of a negative if we haven't been told EXACTLY how to interpret things. No, it's that the advert literally doesn't mention the social media element or supportive facebook groups. So how would anyone know?
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 29, 2024 12:08:42 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 9:23:42 GMT
You see, beaglemom , that sounds awesome! And you wouldn't know any of it from the advert. Could it be that most people's reaction was to imagine a NEGATIVE backstory? It could have been just as easy to imagine a positive one like beaglemom's. ETA: I do sincerely hope that we are not reaching a time where advertisements need to spoon-feed us what we are supposed to 'get' from their commercials and whatnot. Heaven forbid we choose to come away with a positive message instead of a negative if we haven't been told EXACTLY how to interpret things. Advertising has always, ALWAYS, had to spoon feed what the non-buyers are supposed to "get". That is exactly what marketing is about. Peloton's ad was only understood by those who have already been sold to. They don't need to advertise to people who already own one or know why they want one. A company has to convince the audience who has never heard of you and doesn't belong to the already convinced. This ad totally missed the market of people who aren't already sold on Peloton or even exercise equipment. An ad with a woman who is out shopping, always running her fingers over the bike in stores then getting one would have made a much better impression. But the expressions/body language on the actress needs to be one of longing/lusting for and being delighted by receiving it. It is this non verbal expressiveness that makes visual instead of text ads so much more eye/imagination caputring. This actress just does not have longing for/delighted by emotions on her face or in her body language at any time. She looks worried entire time. The viewer is stuck trying to figure out why she looks worried. IMO someone likes this actress and because of their bias wasn't able to see that she couldn't visually communicate the emotions that actors need to be able to communicate.
|
|
kibblesandbits
Pearl Clutcher
At the corner of Awesome and Bombdiggity
Posts: 3,305
Aug 13, 2016 13:47:39 GMT
|
Post by kibblesandbits on Dec 8, 2019 12:16:27 GMT
Could it be that most people's reaction was to imagine a NEGATIVE backstory? It could have been just as easy to imagine a positive one like beaglemom's. ETA: I do sincerely hope that we are not reaching a time where advertisements need to spoon-feed us what we are supposed to 'get' from their commercials and whatnot. Heaven forbid we choose to come away with a positive message instead of a negative if we haven't been told EXACTLY how to interpret things. No, it's that the advert literally doesn't mention the social media element or supportive facebook groups. So how would anyone know? The ad literally is ALL SOCIAL MEDIA element. ?? The video? The selfies? The shout out? The recap? All IG inspired. I wonder if it is more that the ad went wide to all people of all ages? The younger set absolutely "got it".
|
|
kibblesandbits
Pearl Clutcher
At the corner of Awesome and Bombdiggity
Posts: 3,305
Aug 13, 2016 13:47:39 GMT
|
Post by kibblesandbits on Dec 8, 2019 12:20:05 GMT
BTW the stock price is recovering nicely, and has increased value overall since IPO.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 12:21:40 GMT
No, it's that the advert literally doesn't mention the social media element or supportive facebook groups. So how would anyone know? The ad literally is ALL SOCIAL MEDIA element. ?? The video? The selfies? The shout out? The recap? All IG inspired. I wonder if it is more that the ad went wide to all people of all ages? The younger set absolutely "got it". Can the younger set afford it?
|
|
kibblesandbits
Pearl Clutcher
At the corner of Awesome and Bombdiggity
Posts: 3,305
Aug 13, 2016 13:47:39 GMT
|
Post by kibblesandbits on Dec 8, 2019 12:35:17 GMT
The ad literally is ALL SOCIAL MEDIA element. ?? The video? The selfies? The shout out? The recap? All IG inspired. I wonder if it is more that the ad went wide to all people of all ages? The younger set absolutely "got it". Can the younger set afford it? Must be. I don't think they are that expensive, really. Any quality piece of exercise equipment is more than $1,500 - treadmills, flywheels, rowers, etc. And, they USE them. Their narrative is not "it's an expensive clothes rack". I have several friends and relatives under 40 and they invest heavily in their health with gym memberships, kickboxing subscriptions, etc. The only Peloton owners I know are under 40. Honestly? We as a consumer society are so used to the "Walmartization" of products. Cheap, cheaper, cheapest. Our perception is skewed.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 12:42:46 GMT
Can the younger set afford it? Must be. I don't think they are that expensive, really. Any quality piece of exercise equipment is more than $1,500 - treadmills, flywheels, rowers, etc. And, they USE them. Their narrative is not "it's an expensive clothes rack". I have several friends and relatives under 40 and they invest heavily in their health with gym memberships, kickboxing subscriptions, etc. The only Peloton owners I know are under 40. Honestly? We as a consumer society are so used to the "Walmartization" of products. Cheap, cheaper, cheapest. Our perception is skewed. I'm not saying that I think the bike should be cheaper. I don't have a problem with it's price tag. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about luxury items. I'm saying, that I agree with voltagain that this ad maybe missed the mark as far as convincing people the value of having it. And that they could sell a lot more if their presentation was more appealing to more people. Life isn't all about the younger set. I'm willing to bet a lot of people who bristled at this ad were in fact older and have been married for quite a bit longer and have faced a dynamic in their marriage that is coloring their perception of this ad. IME, the under 30 crowd doesn't have the funds for this. But the 40-60 crowd most definitely does. Not picking at you. Picking a little bit at companies who target young people. Just offering some thoughts for discussion.
|
|
kibblesandbits
Pearl Clutcher
At the corner of Awesome and Bombdiggity
Posts: 3,305
Aug 13, 2016 13:47:39 GMT
|
Post by kibblesandbits on Dec 8, 2019 12:57:48 GMT
Must be. I don't think they are that expensive, really. Any quality piece of exercise equipment is more than $1,500 - treadmills, flywheels, rowers, etc. And, they USE them. Their narrative is not "it's an expensive clothes rack". I have several friends and relatives under 40 and they invest heavily in their health with gym memberships, kickboxing subscriptions, etc. The only Peloton owners I know are under 40. Honestly? We as a consumer society are so used to the "Walmartization" of products. Cheap, cheaper, cheapest. Our perception is skewed. I'm not saying that I think the bike should be cheaper. I don't have a problem with it's price tag. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about luxury items. I'm saying, that I agree with voltagain that this ad maybe missed the mark as far as convincing people the value of having it. And that they could sell a lot more if their presentation was more appealing to more people. Life isn't all about the younger set. I'm willing to bet a lot of people who bristled at this ad were in fact older and have been married for quite a bit longer and have faced a dynamic in their marriage that is coloring their perception of this ad. IME, the under 30 crowd doesn't have the funds for this. But the 40-60 crowd most definitely does. Not picking at you. Picking a little bit at companies who target young people. Just offering some thoughts for discussion. I understand what you're saying. I'm trying to move the discussion needle off the "who can afford this" trope. We're perhaps working on the same thing here.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 13:01:28 GMT
I'm not saying that I think the bike should be cheaper. I don't have a problem with it's price tag. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about luxury items. I'm saying, that I agree with voltagain that this ad maybe missed the mark as far as convincing people the value of having it. And that they could sell a lot more if their presentation was more appealing to more people. Life isn't all about the younger set. I'm willing to bet a lot of people who bristled at this ad were in fact older and have been married for quite a bit longer and have faced a dynamic in their marriage that is coloring their perception of this ad. IME, the under 30 crowd doesn't have the funds for this. But the 40-60 crowd most definitely does. Not picking at you. Picking a little bit at companies who target young people. Just offering some thoughts for discussion. I understand what you're saying. I'm trying to move the discussion needle off the "who can afford this" trope. We're perhaps working on the same thing here. I hear you. My fatigue really is with the young and beautiful being the target. I would love to have this bike. I have seen what it can do and how it uses technology and social media and I think it's fantastic.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 29, 2024 12:08:42 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 13:13:25 GMT
You see, beaglemom , that sounds awesome! And you wouldn't know any of it from the advert. Could it be that most people's reaction was to imagine a NEGATIVE backstory? It could have been just as easy to imagine a positive one like beaglemom's. ETA: I do sincerely hope that we are not reaching a time where advertisements need to spoon-feed us what we are supposed to 'get' from their commercials and whatnot. Heaven forbid we choose to come away with a positive message instead of a negative if we haven't been told EXACTLY how to interpret things. Why not? Advertisements have been spoon-feeding us negativity for at least 2 decades: Stupid dads, overwhelmed moms who just have to keep on going, spoiled kids, aggressive driving (don't try this at home, but we have to get you to imagine yourself as a stunt driver cuz reasons), extreme violence (in move ads), aggressive sound tracks, stupid consumers . Yes, dog forbid we have ads spoon feed us positivity instead of expecting us to come to an ad w/a positive backstory while the feeding us visuals w/a creepy vibe (imo). "As a result, the advertising industry faces an “existential need for change,” according to a blunt report published on Monday by the research firm Forrester. Now the agencies must “disassemble what remains of their outmoded model” or risk “falling further into irrelevance,” the report concludes.... “People hate advertising,” said Joanna Coles, the former chief content officer of Hearst Magazines, during a session at the Advertising Week conference last month in New York. “And it’s all advertisers’ fault.”" www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/business/media/advertising-industry-research.html
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 29, 2024 12:08:42 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 13:22:00 GMT
ps - "Why are men always idiots in TV advertising?" "Men, are you so dumb you can’t work a dishwasher? So immature that your life revolves around sports and Doritos? The trend isn’t new, but television and advertising portrayals of men as clueless lunkheads seem to be the gift that keeps on giving —and it must, otherwise product hawkers would be taking a different approach, right?" www.cantechletter.com/2017/07/men-always-idiots-tv-ads/Anytime I see stupid people in an ad, I determine not to buy the product. I've got no interest in laughing at it and I have not interest in emulating it. So, yeah, if they can spoon-feed us stupid consumers who can barely function through their day, they can spoon-feed us a better Peloton ad, like beaglemom story
|
|
craftykitten
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,304
Jun 26, 2014 7:39:32 GMT
|
Post by craftykitten on Dec 8, 2019 13:47:27 GMT
No, it's that the advert literally doesn't mention the social media element or supportive facebook groups. So how would anyone know? The ad literally is ALL SOCIAL MEDIA element. ?? The video? The selfies? The shout out? The recap? All IG inspired. I wonder if it is more that the ad went wide to all people of all ages? The younger set absolutely "got it". I am younger than you, and no part of that advert was relatable to me in any way. The social media element I was referring to was the supportive groups that beaglemom talked about. The video appeared to be for her husband. I'm not watching it again to see what I missed! There's obviously a target market out there for this ad, and for the bike. I am neither, and that's fine.
|
|
J u l e e
Drama Llama
Posts: 6,531
Location: Cincinnati
Jun 28, 2014 2:50:47 GMT
|
Post by J u l e e on Dec 8, 2019 13:48:10 GMT
No, it's that the advert literally doesn't mention the social media element or supportive facebook groups. So how would anyone know? The ad literally is ALL SOCIAL MEDIA element. ?? The video? The selfies? The shout out? The recap? All IG inspired. I wonder if it is more that the ad went wide to all people of all ages? The younger set absolutely "got it". In my very limited experience, the younger set thought it was incredibly stupid. My daughter is 17 and goes to an all girls school - super focused on finding and using your voice, girl power, etc. I realize that’s not the target audience for Peleton right now, but they most definitely did not “get it”. Without saying a word, I just listened to her friends talking about it the other day when this came out. It was a huge buzz at school and they talked about it in at least two of her classes. I heard nothing about the social media aspect of exercise, accountability, or support. I heard that they got a weird vibe from the husband/wife/surprise Christmas gift/thin worried actress and that nothing showed actual transformation or empowerment - that they saw.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 13:50:29 GMT
@zingermack are you GenX? I've spent some time googling this morning about marketing because I had this knee jerk reaction that agencies don't target us. And what I've found is that my assumption was mostly correct. Which is weird because we are the highest users of social media and right now we have the most spending dollars. But all sources say that GenX is the toughest to sell with traditional stereotypes. We aren't buying into it.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 13:56:24 GMT
J u l e e that is interesting. Now I'm curious to ask my DD about her perception of it. I won't ask DS because he thinks everything is stupid. He's anti social media, anti tv, anti consumerism. But your DD and my kids are all part of GenZ and I think there's a marked difference between them and Millennials who I think were the target of this ad.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 29, 2024 12:08:42 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 13:58:40 GMT
@zingermack are you GenX? I've spent some time googling this morning about marketing because I had this knee jerk reaction that agencies don't target us. And what I've found is that my assumption was mostly correct. Which is weird because we are the highest users of social media and right now we have the most spending dollars. But all sources say that GenX is the toughest to sell with traditional stereotypes. We aren't buying into it. I am. W/Gen Z kids. Gen X has NOTHING on Gen Z for tearing apart ads and being overly skeptical of them. My Gen Z kids see through the bs immediately (it took me 35 years
|
|
J u l e e
Drama Llama
Posts: 6,531
Location: Cincinnati
Jun 28, 2014 2:50:47 GMT
|
Post by J u l e e on Dec 8, 2019 14:07:26 GMT
J u l e e that is interesting. Now I'm curious to ask my DD about her perception of it. I won't ask DS because he thinks everything is stupid. He's anti social media, anti tv, anti consumerism. But your DD and my kids are all part of GenZ and I think there's a marked difference between them and Millennials who I think were the target of this ad. My daughter is actually more like your son than most of her friends. She is very anti consumerism and less attached to social media, and she automatically finds fault with most advertising. I knew she would hate the commercial, but it was interesting hearing the whole conversation with all the girls. They were all very negative about the message they got from it.
|
|
|
Post by maryland on Dec 8, 2019 14:12:48 GMT
My dh bought my my Peloton as a belated Christmas gift last year. Here is part of my story... I did a half Ironman (1.2 mil swim, 56 mile bike, 13.1 run) within a year and a half of having babies 1-3. I trained enough to get through them. With #1 and #3 I got pregnant with the next within a month or so. And with pregnancies #3 and #4 I wasn't allowed to run while pregnant due to bladder prolapse after #2. I swam growing up, so that was always the "easy" part. As long as I get back in the water a decent amount before the race it comes back without too much effort. My husband bought me my first pair of running shoes for my 21st birthday. I have never "enjoyed" running but have done it because it was good for me and because I could do it with my mom or my husband. I have never been fast. Biking was something I did to get through the race. It was always the last thing I came back to after being pregnant and the first thing I stopped doing after a race. Baby #4 arrived in March 2018. I developed a stress fracture in my foot, so I had a good excuse to not have to be running. And I don't have reliable childcare, so biking was out. I have really struggled after baby #4. Postpartum depression, weight is the highest I have ever been, seriously lacking motivation. My husband bought me the peloton as a belated Christmas present in January 2019. I LOVE it. I have done 279 rides since I got it. With the app I have also done 129 stretching workouts, 46 meditation, 35 walking, 19 strength, 18 running, 6 yoga, and 1 bootcamp workout. I was supposed to be doing my 4th and final half Ironman tomorrow but developed another stress fracture (in the other foot), so until that is healed I am biking. I got up at 4:45 on Thanksgiving so I could do the live Thanksgiving ride - with 16,000 other riders. I couldn't do the one that was at 8am west coast because we were doing a 5k with our kids. But there were over 20,000 people on that ride. One of the key things that Peloton has done right is that they have totally harnessed social media. Every coach encourages you to find your tribe - the group that you fit with that will encourage you. They have tribes (FB groups) for everything you can imagine. I have a handful that I love and know that I could post on any of them and get awesome support for anything I was going through. On all of the groups everyone has been sharing their thoughts on the ad. The most common thought/thread that has shone through on all of them is how if you don't have the bike you don't get it. ***which yes, means Peloton missed the mark*** But for so many it is about so much more than losing weight. It is about having a way/place to do something for yourself. A way to work through anxiety, depression, crazy kids, whatever you might need. It is about giving yourself time in your day to do something just for you. The group I love the most is the XXL Tribe. The two people that lead it are incredible and very inspiring. One of them, Richelle Martin, has been working with Peloton to help them make things more inclusive. From having workout clothes that go up to 4xl, to adaptations in yoga, strength and core workouts. She is absolutely freakin' amazing. And she was interviewed by her local radio station about her thoughts about the ad. PeloBeachMama ArticleSo I get that many people thought the ad was inappropriate, I do think it missed the mark a bit! But there is so much more to Peloton and I for one am so thankful that my husband bought me one for Christmas. And as much as I wish I had, I haven't lost any weight, but that is on me and my eating habits, not Peloton. I know I am much stronger and I love getting on my bike! Wow, what a great story, thanks for sharing. This is making me really interested in this bike. Before this thread, I just thought it was an overpriced exercise bike. I always learn so much on this board! I love the fact that you feel like you are in a group, getting through it together. That sounds very motivating to me. Is it something members of the family can share, or is the bike built for only one person to use? I know that's probably a dumb question, but for the little I have read, I don't hear about a family all sharing the bike. If it's something our family of 5 could use, that may justify the cost for us. My husband used to be an avid bike rider before we had kids. He is getting very busy with work, and can't get to the gym often. This may be a good solution for him.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 14:24:02 GMT
@zingermack are you GenX? I've spent some time googling this morning about marketing because I had this knee jerk reaction that agencies don't target us. And what I've found is that my assumption was mostly correct. Which is weird because we are the highest users of social media and right now we have the most spending dollars. But all sources say that GenX is the toughest to sell with traditional stereotypes. We aren't buying into it. I am. W/Gen Z kids. Gen X has NOTHING on Gen Z for tearing apart ads and being overly skeptical of them. My Gen Z kids see through the bs immediately (it took me 35 years Yes I don't think advertisers have a hope and a prayer with them if they are confused by us.
|
|
|
Post by mustlovecats on Dec 8, 2019 14:32:35 GMT
No, it's that the advert literally doesn't mention the social media element or supportive facebook groups. So how would anyone know? The ad literally is ALL SOCIAL MEDIA element. ?? The video? The selfies? The shout out? The recap? All IG inspired. I wonder if it is more that the ad went wide to all people of all ages? The younger set absolutely "got it". I feel like they got it but they didn’t all love it. And then they used social media to clap back with parodies, tweets, etc. But I am an old GenX girl and we are sort of accustomed to being told we don’t get it, except we do.
|
|
|
Post by Skellinton on Dec 8, 2019 15:25:17 GMT
I think most of you have seen the Aviation Gin ad, if not you should. Also the end of the cold open on SNL last night. First off, they are both hilarious, second of all I think they point out what a lot of us saw in the ad; a woman who looked scared and nervous and like she was seeking approval.
I do find it interesting that sine people don’t see the actress portraying herself as nervous or worried. Why she is nervous or worried is up to everyone’s own interpretation, but I absolutely think the reason this ad is so controversial is because if the actress and the way she acted out her character.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 8, 2019 15:44:42 GMT
I think most of you have seen the Aviation Gin ad, if not you should. Also the end of the cold open on SNL last night. First off, they are both hilarious, second of all I think they point out what a lot of us saw in the ad; a woman who looked scared and nervous and like she was seeking approval. I do find it interesting that sine people don’t see the actress portraying herself as nervous or worried. Why she is nervous or worried is up to everyone’s own interpretation, but I absolutely think the reason this ad is so controversial is because if the actress and the way she acted out her character. I agree with you that this is the Crux of the whole controversy. It's interesting that I had a therapist once who showed me images of people's faces and asked me to tell her what emotion I thought they were having. Her theory was that depression can alter our perception of others. I think there is a lot of things that alter our perception of others, not just mood disorders. I wonder if those who took no issue with the ad didn't feel like the woman seemed to have some level of discomfort. Or what they perceived caused her discomfort. I find discussions like these fascinating. I love thinking about how others perceive things and how it compares to me.
|
|
|
Post by Skellinton on Dec 8, 2019 16:12:22 GMT
I think most of you have seen the Aviation Gin ad, if not you should. Also the end of the cold open on SNL last night. First off, they are both hilarious, second of all I think they point out what a lot of us saw in the ad; a woman who looked scared and nervous and like she was seeking approval. I do find it interesting that sine people don’t see the actress portraying herself as nervous or worried. Why she is nervous or worried is up to everyone’s own interpretation, but I absolutely think the reason this ad is so controversial is because if the actress and the way she acted out her character. I agree with you that this is the Crux of the whole controversy. It's interesting that I had a therapist once who showed me images of people's faces and asked me to tell her what emotion I thought they were having. Her theory was that depression can alter our perception of others. I think there is a lot of things that alter our perception of others, not just mood disorders. I wonder if those who took no issue with the ad didn't feel like the woman seemed to have some level of discomfort. Or what they perceived caused her discomfort. I find discussions like these fascinating. I love thinking about how others perceive things and how it compares to me. I wonder what the people thought she was portraying too. That is interesting about your therapist. I work with small children and spent years working with children with autism, we spent/spend a lot of time working on reading people’s faces and discussing emotions. I am sure that probably skews my perception of the actresses face. This discussion is fascinating, although it is also a bit like the laurel/yanny or blue dress/gold dress thing.
|
|
|
Post by beaglemom on Dec 8, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Wow, what a great story, thanks for sharing. This is making me really interested in this bike. Before this thread, I just thought it was an overpriced exercise bike. I always learn so much on this board! I love the fact that you feel like you are in a group, getting through it together. That sounds very motivating to me. Is it something members of the family can share, or is the bike built for only one person to use? I know that's probably a dumb question, but for the little I have read, I don't hear about a family all sharing the bike. If it's something our family of 5 could use, that may justify the cost for us. My husband used to be an avid bike rider before we had kids. He is getting very busy with work, and can't get to the gym often. This may be a good solution for him. Yes! You can set up multiple profiles on the bike that would all be covered under the single subscription on the bike. I "sold" one to a friend. She is a former professional cyclist and her husband has also cycled for years. He is a judge and just wasn't able to get to the gym anymore because of the hours he was working. They are both obsessed now! They just have one bike and it has been working great for them. And slight plug...5A3BVA is my referral code and would get you $100 off and will get me $100 credit for Peloton apparel. The groups are the best and there are truly ones for anything you can think of: the official mom group, the bad mom's group, PeloLaw (lawyers and judges), shorties (riders under 5'3), Pelowinos, Peloton road riders, Peloton tv Junkies, Peloton triathletes, Pelofun, Craft Cocktails and More!, groups for each of the different instructors, and many, many more. The other group that I have found that was huge for me, in terms of accountability, is the Power Zone Pack. It is centered around Power Zone rides and the rides are mostly Matt Wilpers with some Denis Morton rides. Matt is a former college runner and triathlon/running coach. The Power Zone rides are all centered around your own personal fitness level and pushing yourself within that. You take a "test" that tells you your zones and the bike then populates them in this lovely bar at the bottom of your screen and then during those rides the instructor will tell you what zones to be in when. The power zone pack runs 8 week challenges. You can sign up to be on a 3 ride, 4 ride, or 5 ride a week team. The leaders of the PZP determine the rides and then you are held accountable by your team to complete those rides. I saw a huge improvement from the beginning of my first challenge to the end of it, I have 2 more weeks in the current one and I can't wait to retest and see the progress I have made. On Saturday Matt always does a 60 minute PZ ride and yesterday there were over 2,000 people on it. You can "friend" people, so I was riding with about 100 people that I had friended because of the different groups I'm in, I was constantly getting and giving high fives all ride, it was awesome! I also think finding the instructors that work for you is also huge. I am currently riding mostly Matt because of the challenge, but I also love Denis, Christine, and Jen. And I have found that there are certain instructors that I don't care for as much and I have a harder time motivating to do their rides. But the great thing is there are so many rides on demand and live that I will never have to ride something I don't like!!
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Apr 29, 2024 12:08:42 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 14:22:19 GMT
|
|