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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 11:00:10 GMT
I feel the same gillyp . They seem to want their cake and eat it somehow and I'm not sure what either of them is going to gain from it in the future. ahhh, They thought they could get all the financial benefits of using the royal name, but not bother with any obligations that came with it. I've lost any respect for them. But did they? I must admit that I haven't read much about it, I kind of lost interest after the initial announcement. But do you really think that Harry and Meghan expected to be able to continue to use their Royal titles after effectively turning their back on all of that? I might be wrong, and I'm more than happy for someone to point me to an article (and not one from The Daily Mail ) that implies they were planning to use their titles for monetary gain. The legality of using the word Royal has little to do with the possibility of them ever selling any merchandise under that name and more about the right to use the word in the first place. They have a website under the title of Sussex Royal.Whatever they post on that website or their Instagram, also under that name will be linked to the Monarchy. At the moment using the name is still under review and the consensus is, after very many reports, not just from the Daily Mail but from other legitimate reports, that according to the rules for the protection of the word Royal, they will not be allowed to use it, I'm guessing the reports are looking at these rules on the Government website which cover a multitude of different names, including the word Royal. There's far more to using it that being a blood member of the Royal family. The word Royal is also linked to the Governance and constitution of the United Kingdom. That is why it all seems such a legal challenge to work all this out.
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2020 12:56:23 GMT
There was a royal reporter on a TV saying that the reason they trademarked so many different items was to prevent others from using Sussex Royal on merchandise. They themselves have no intention of selling Sussex Royal keyrings, bandanas or pyjamas etc! I must admit I would have been surprised if Harry had felt that was the right way to go. He might not want to be royal but I can’t imagine he wants to trash the monarchy.
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Post by mom on Feb 20, 2020 15:13:20 GMT
I know nothing about the Sun. It's even worse than the Daily Mail but the list is probably legit Lol, ok. Good to know. The list was the only part I was really after. But now I know! 🤣
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Post by mom on Feb 20, 2020 15:15:24 GMT
Too bad H&M is already and established brand. I think they will be fine and am very excited at the idea they may have bought a house 5-6 blocks from my MIL. Do you think they will answer a knock on the door to borrow a cup of sugar? 🤣 I really hope your in laws ask if they are ok & are thriving when they see them. 😉
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Post by mom on Feb 20, 2020 15:19:56 GMT
There was a royal reporter on a TV saying that the reason they trademarked so many different items was to prevent others from using Sussex Royal on merchandise. They themselves have no intention of selling Sussex Royal keyrings, bandanas or pyjamas etc! I don’t necessarily think that was his original plan, but let’s look at what happens if things deteriorated between them and the family further - who’s to say one day it could be an issue later on. Better to keep the rules clear now and have hopefully less fires later to deal with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:54:41 GMT
Can you post this? I don’t have the app to be able to read it.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 20, 2020 23:09:44 GMT
here was a royal reporter on a TV saying that the reason they trademarked so many different items was to prevent others from using Sussex Royal on merchandise. They themselves have no intention of selling Sussex Royal keyrings, bandanas or pyjamas etc! That doesn't make sense to me. Has the Queen done the same thing? have William & Kate? Do they all have trademarks on their Royal names/titles? Because if they don't, that means I can start manufacturing "CambridgeRoyal" PJ sets and all will be fine with me selling them because they haven't trademarked the name? I seriously doubt that the issue is to stop other people from using the name - because if no-one else in the Royal family has done it then it isn't necessary.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 20, 2020 23:15:26 GMT
There's a bit of an update on the Telegraph today. Key points seem to be that the Sussexes will be welcome to attend higher profile family occasions such as the Queen's birthday parade in June and also that this new arrangement has a one year transition period where both sides can opt to renegotiate depending on how things are panning out. " They will be welcomed back by the Royal Family at key points throughout the coming year, understood to include the Queen’s Birthday Parade in June as well as a series of final engagements in MarchIt will be interesting to see if Meghan is there for all of those. Harry will be, but I can't see her flying back & forth repeatedly with the Archie. I wonder whose idea it is to have the one year trial period and then a review? Someone obviously thinks it's not going to work out the way they want it to and they (or he) will want to come back and so they are leaving the door open.
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2020 23:41:21 GMT
There's a bit of an update on the Telegraph today. Key points seem to be that the Sussexes will be welcome to attend higher profile family occasions such as the Queen's birthday parade in June and also that this new arrangement has a one year transition period where both sides can opt to renegotiate depending on how things are panning out. " They will be welcomed back by the Royal Family at key points throughout the coming year, understood to include the Queen’s Birthday Parade in June as well as a series of final engagements in MarchIt will be interesting to see if Meghan is there for all of those. Harry will be, but I can't see her flying back & forth repeatedly with the Archie. I wonder whose idea it is to have the one year trial period and then a review? Someone obviously thinks it's not going to work out the way they want it to and they (or he) will want to come back and so they are leaving the door open. I would like to think that it’s the Queen, not so much thinking that it won’t work out, but hoping that Harry may have a change of heart after having had the space to mentally recharge and recuperate. I hope that’s the way it is, that’s she’s giving him some breathing space.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 23:48:03 GMT
here was a royal reporter on a TV saying that the reason they trademarked so many different items was to prevent others from using Sussex Royal on merchandise. They themselves have no intention of selling Sussex Royal keyrings, bandanas or pyjamas etc! That doesn't make sense to me. Has the Queen done the same thing? have William & Kate? Do they all have trademarks on their Royal names/titles? Because if they don't, that means I can start manufacturing "CambridgeRoyal" PJ sets and all will be fine with me selling them because they haven't trademarked the name? I seriously doubt that the issue is to stop other people from using the name - because if no-one else in the Royal family has done it then it isn't necessary. There are laws preventing the misuse of the word Royal. It comes down to the fact that if the couple are no longer working royals, it would be misleading to allow them to use the term 'royal' in any commercial ventures. It's not the Queen herself that is denying them the right to do so, it's the law of the land. Basically it comes down to the fact they can't be independent and also use the word Royal.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 21, 2020 0:03:52 GMT
ut hoping that Harry may have a change of heart after having had the space to mentally recharge and recuperate. If he's happy in his marriage, then I can't see that he'll be back, especially if they have another child. Meghan has made it clear how unhappy she was and I can't see her stepping back into that role in any capacity. If the marriage fails then maybe he'd go back, but doubt it. I think he's been unhappy in that role for a long time as well, and he's always wanted to be free to do his own thing. Stepping back into his former role would be kind of humiliating don't you think?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 0:41:00 GMT
I think they all will be fine. It was better for Harry to leave on his own terms than to be sent somewhere after his brother took the throne.
I bet that Andrew and Edward aren’t looking forward to the day that Charles takes the throne.
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2020 9:07:30 GMT
than to be sent somewhere
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2020 9:15:14 GMT
ut hoping that Harry may have a change of heart after having had the space to mentally recharge and recuperate. If he's happy in his marriage, then I can't see that he'll be back, especially if they have another child. Meghan has made it clear how unhappy she was and I can't see her stepping back into that role in any capacity. If the marriage fails then maybe he'd go back, but doubt it. I think he's been unhappy in that role for a long time as well, and he's always wanted to be free to do his own thing. Stepping back into his former role would be kind of humiliating don't you think? I think the key is the marriage. I do think they're happy together and I hope they continue to be so, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility in my mind that their marriage won't be a long one. I don't know if it'd be humiliating...probably to a degree but if he's adrift then they are family after all. Who knows! I'd rather see him happy in Canada than unhappy back in the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 9:16:45 GMT
I think they all will be fine. It was better for Harry to leave on his own terms than to be sent somewhere after his brother took the throne. I bet that Andrew and Edward aren’t looking forward to the day that Charles takes the throne. What an odd suggestion. Can you explain what you mean.
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Post by joelise on Feb 21, 2020 9:25:09 GMT
here was a royal reporter on a TV saying that the reason they trademarked so many different items was to prevent others from using Sussex Royal on merchandise. They themselves have no intention of selling Sussex Royal keyrings, bandanas or pyjamas etc! That doesn't make sense to me. Has the Queen done the same thing? have William & Kate? Do they all have trademarks on their Royal names/titles? Because if they don't, that means I can start manufacturing "CambridgeRoyal" PJ sets and all will be fine with me selling them because they haven't trademarked the name? I seriously doubt that the issue is to stop other people from using the name - because if no-one else in the Royal family has done it then it isn't necessary. I only know what I heard on the TV programme, but they also mentioned the fact that during special celebrations, such as Royal weddings and Jubilees, the Queen relaxes trademarks on the Royal family, for a short period of time, to allow companies to make memorabilia celebrating the event. I don’t think people can use the word Royal without permission. But I’m no expert on the subject.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 21, 2020 11:52:46 GMT
I think they all will be fine. It was better for Harry to leave on his own terms than to be sent somewhere after his brother took the throne. I bet that Andrew and Edward aren’t looking forward to the day that Charles takes the throne. Why would they all be sent away? Where would they be sent to?
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Post by tduby1 on Feb 21, 2020 19:10:18 GMT
I think they all will be fine. It was better for Harry to leave on his own terms than to be sent somewhere after his brother took the throne. I bet that Andrew and Edward aren’t looking forward to the day that Charles takes the throne. What are you talking about?
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Post by auntkelly on Feb 21, 2020 19:34:09 GMT
linkI heard today on Fox Business that Harry and Meghan are looking at houses in Malibu, which makes sense as her mother lives 30 minutes away from there. Their neighbors would include Robert Downey Jr., Mel Gibson, Dick Van Dyke and Caitlyn Jenner. For better or worse, I would think it would certainly be different than living at Frogmore Cottage!
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Post by wellway on Feb 21, 2020 19:57:55 GMT
It's offical, no using the SussexRoyal brand www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51593708The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are to stop using their "SussexRoyal" brand from spring 2020. A spokesperson for the couple said due to government rules around the use of the word "royal" it had been agreed not to name their non-profit organisation, the Sussex Royal Foundation. An application to trademark the Sussex Royal brand has also been withdrawn. It comes after it was announced this week the couple will formally step down as senior royals from 31 March. A spokesperson for the Sussexes said they were "focused" on plans to establish their new organisation in the spring but had reached their decision "given the specific UK government rules". "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use 'SussexRoyal' in any territory post Spring 2020. "Therefore the trademark applications that were filed as protective measures, acting on advice from and following the same model for the Royal Foundation, have been removed."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 22:06:08 GMT
I think they all will be fine. It was better for Harry to leave on his own terms than to be sent somewhere after his brother took the throne. I bet that Andrew and Edward aren’t looking forward to the day that Charles takes the throne. What an odd suggestion. Can you explain what you mean. It was in the gossip rags that Harry and Megan were going to be sent to Africa. And Charles has made it known that he is going to trim the royal family down to his own branch of the family.
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2020 0:11:18 GMT
What an odd suggestion. Can you explain what you mean. It was in the gossip rags that Harry and Megan were going to be sent to Africa. And Charles has made it known that he is going to trim the royal family down to his own branch of the family. No one gets sent anywhere in the way you mean. And yes, Prince Charles is looking to slim down the Monarchy and his branch are the ones who are the direct heirs.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 22, 2020 1:05:16 GMT
No one gets sent anywhere in the way you mean Say what? You don't send people into exile any longer? Maybe just the occasional banishing to a distant colony? What about beheadings...I suppose you're going to tell me that those are out too? Thank goodness you've still got that Tower! Andrew & Edward...the Princes in the Tower v2.0.
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2020 9:43:02 GMT
No one gets sent anywhere in the way you mean Say what? You don't send people into exile any longer? Maybe just the occasional banishing to a distant colony? What about beheadings...I suppose you're going to tell me that those are out too? Thank goodness you've still got that Tower! Andrew & Edward...the Princes in the Tower v2.0. I haven’t noticed any Royals missing lately 😉
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Post by cali on Feb 22, 2020 13:58:42 GMT
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Post by 16joy on Feb 22, 2020 17:53:25 GMT
It seems they are pushing back. Is it hard for them to make money without the titles?
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Post by mom on Feb 22, 2020 19:25:21 GMT
It seems they are pushing back. Is it hard for them to make money without the titles? While maybe not hard - its not as easy either. Also? Its pretty cool to call yourself a Royal.
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2020 20:47:39 GMT
It seems they are pushing back. Is it hard for them to make money without the titles? Are they? I haven't seen anything/watched/read the news for 24 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 21:02:54 GMT
It seems they are pushing back. Is it hard for them to make money without the titles? Are they? I haven't seen anything/watched/read the news for 24 hours. I'm guessing that they read the Daily Mail or the Mirror - neither a reliable source of fact. I've got news for the " friends" who seem to have spoken on her behalf and to the Duchess of Sussex IF any of it is true - there IS a legal reason for not using the word Royal in the UK. In the world of the internet there is no way to separate the title from being used in the UK but allow it to be used abroad. LINK
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Post by mom on Feb 22, 2020 21:08:41 GMT
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