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Post by jess on Feb 22, 2020 21:33:40 GMT
Straight from the website: "While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month review period has been put in place."
"While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020."
They've made it pretty clear they're not happy over some of the decisions!
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Post by lesserknownpea on Feb 22, 2020 21:45:11 GMT
Are they? I haven't seen anything/watched/read the news for 24 hours. I'm guessing that they read the Daily Mail or the Mirror - neither a reliable source of fact. I've got news for the " friends" who seem to have spoken on her behalf and to the Duchess of Sussex IF any of it is true - there IS a legal reason for not using the word Royal. LINKI agree with you. There is no validation that these quotes are real.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 21:49:04 GMT
I'm guessing that they read the Daily Mail or the Mirror - neither a reliable source of fact. I've got news for the " friends" who seem to have spoken on her behalf and to the Duchess of Sussex IF any of it is true - there IS a legal reason for not using the word Royal. LINKI agree with you. There is no validation that these quotes are real. Maybe not, but reading their website and the way the statement about this, is written, there might be a grain of truth in it.
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Post by mom on Feb 22, 2020 22:11:11 GMT
I agree with you. There is no validation that these quotes are real. Maybe not, but reading their website and the way the statement about this, is written, there might be a grain of truth in it.I don't think its a major jump to think there is absolutely some truth to the quotes. Now is it 1000% true? Im sure not. But you don't throw shade at The Queen (aka Granny) publicly through your website and then get to say everything is awesome just like they want it to be. The site screams of a teenager pissed at their parents, IMHO.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 22, 2020 22:46:01 GMT
I wish the BRF had trademarked SUCKSIT Royal. LOL
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Post by pjaye on Feb 22, 2020 22:52:42 GMT
The site screams of a teenager pissed at their parents, IMHO. As I was reading it, I was thinking "wow they sound quite pissed off about the whole thing" and I came back here to read the rest of the comments and it seems I'm not the only one thinking this. They made the decision to walk away and it sounds like they really did think they would call all the shots and they don't seem to be able to accept any of the restrictions from the other side with any grace at all. Sure bitch about what you think is unfair to each other - but no, they posted it on their website for millions of people to read. If I was his family I'd feel quite betrayed. I've never warmed to Harry and I've called him an entitled brat in posts here many times...and he just keeps proving my point, and Meghan seems to be right there with him. But to those that have always liked Harry...does any of this make you think about him differently?
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2020 23:50:55 GMT
. But to those that have always liked Harry...does any of this make you think about him differently? Not yet...I don’t want proof that he’s a different man to the one I thought he was. I want him to show some courtesy, maturity, acceptance, humility and dignity. I’ll hope a bit longer but for the Queen this is the equivalent of washing their dirty laundry in public and that simply is not done.
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Post by gillyp on Feb 23, 2020 0:13:43 GMT
I'm not sure what I think at the moment. I don't like the statement on their website, I don't feel it's necessary and it's like they are trying too hard to justify themselves. It also feels a little like a slap in the face for the Queen and, no matter how much I've been on Harry's side in the past, that for me is possibly a step too far. I'd not visited the site before now and probably won't again, not because of any disenchantment with them but because I don't particularly follow anyone.
I am hoping we will see some good photos of all the family when they are back, to show that all is well. I hope we will see reports of them taking part in the planned events graciously. Basically I live in hope.
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Post by Jennifer C on Feb 23, 2020 1:15:24 GMT
I agree, Harry sounds like a spoiled brat right now. They really should of rethought this statement that they put out. It could have been worded so much better and not come off as a petulant child stomping his foot.
And I put it all on Harry. He is the Royal by birth, the grandson of the Queen and the son of the POW. Shame on him,IMHO.
Jennifer
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Post by 16joy on Feb 23, 2020 2:04:06 GMT
Who controls the Sussex royal website dotty? Do you have inside info since you said there's a grain of truth?
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Post by mom on Feb 23, 2020 2:38:17 GMT
Who controls the Sussex royal website dotty? Do you have inside info since you said there's a grain of truth? I’m not sure what you’re getting at - but Harry and Meghan control the Sussex website. They own it and are the ones who put out the information there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 2:38:49 GMT
Who controls the Sussex royal website dotty? Do you have inside info since you said there's a grain of truth? I have no idea, they do I presume. I usually take what the Daily Mail says with a bit of doubt whether stories are totally factual or not but later, by reading between the lines of what they have put on their website I started to have doubts that the DM story might have a grain of truth to it. Whether she said that to the “friend” or whether it’s both of them that think they should be able to do it their way, who knows? Either way it comes across as a slap in the face to he Queen, as his grandmother and as our Head of State and a total disregard to the laws of this country.
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Post by gar on Feb 23, 2020 9:42:10 GMT
I'm not sure what I think at the moment. I don't like the statement on their website, I don't feel it's necessary and it's like they are trying too hard to justify themselves. It also feels a little like a slap in the face for the Queen and, no matter how much I've been on Harry's side in the past, that for me is possibly a step too far. I'd not visited the site before now and probably won't again, not because of any disenchantment with them but because I don't particularly follow anyone. I am hoping we will see some good photos of all the family when they are back, to show that all is well. I hope we will see reports of them taking part in the planned events graciously. Basically I live in hope. That's where I am too gillyp.
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Post by wellway on Feb 23, 2020 10:24:43 GMT
Living in the UK for as long as I have I have observed how the public react to the Royal Family. The public really admire the hard working members of the family, the Queen, Princess Anne etc. Harry is admired for his work on the Invictus Games and his military career.
But public admiration and love is not a given, ask Andrew. I have noticed the coverage of Charles, William and Catherine seems to have increased and that they are going to normal places not celebrity places. Charles visiting South Wales after the floods and the locals were singing his praises. Kate talking openly about her pregnancy etc. William singing the Welsh national anthem at the rugby yesterday. There is a connection to the everyday life of the general public and it is noted and appreciated.
I can see the British public tiring of Harry if his appearances are all Wall St, Hollywood related. I personally don't think he has the influence he thinks he has.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 11:22:56 GMT
I am hoping we will see some good photos of all the family when they are back, to show that all is well. I hope we will see reports of them taking part in the planned events graciously. Basically I live in hope. It will be interesting to see whether they will both attend Princess Beatrice's wedding at the end of May. A more family gathering than attending as a "Royal" so to speak. If they do or don't, either way it's going to be stealing the limelight from Princess Beatrice on the day because of the press coverage it will get. What a mess!
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Post by gillyp on Feb 23, 2020 11:28:29 GMT
Likewise @dottyscrapper the news coverage Prince Andrew will get at the wedding too. I’m sure all the family will make it a special day for Beatrice and it will be the media who will make it not about her and Eduardo.
I will be sad if Harry and Megan don’t attend the wedding. Reports have always been that the cousins are close, it will be a shame for things to get in the way of that.
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Post by gar on Feb 23, 2020 11:36:57 GMT
Indeed...the ripple effects have only just begun really
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 11:40:59 GMT
Likewise @dottyscrapper the news coverage Prince Andrew will get at the wedding too. I’m sure all the family will make it a special day for Beatrice and it will be the media who will make it not about her and Eduardo. I will be sad if Harry and Megan don’t attend the wedding. Reports have always been that the cousins are close, it will be a shame for things to get in the way of that. I agree, but part of me somehow thinks they won't (because of the extra press coverage it will get) or he will come on his own, which to me is even worse fodder for the press. I also think they are making it worse for themselves. If they hadn't put all that underlying dig on their website then there wouldn't have been so much media coverage about it as there has been over the last couple of days.It wasn't necessary for them to add the " extras" to the statement IMO.
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Post by mom on Feb 23, 2020 12:22:39 GMT
Likewise @dottyscrapper the news coverage Prince Andrew will get at the wedding too. I’m sure all the family will make it a special day for Beatrice and it will be the media who will make it not about her and Eduardo. I will be sad if Harry and Megan don’t attend the wedding. Reports have always been that the cousins are close, it will be a shame for things to get in the way of that. I agree, but part of me somehow thinks they won't (because of the extra press coverage it will get) or he will come on his own, which to me is even worse fodder for the press.
I also think they are making it worse for themselves. If they hadn't put all that underlying dig on their website then there wouldn't have been so much media coverage about it as there has been over the last couple of days.It wasn't necessary for them to add the " extras" to the statement IMO. I agree, I hope they don't. And lets face it - if they are there they will immediately make it all about them. Wasn't there a family wedding where Meghan practically announced here pregnancy by holding her belly the entire time? It had to be Eugenie's wedding. But your right - if he goes by himself, the divorce rumors will start immediately. I have always been a Harry fan, and was excited for him to marry Meghan. But honestly? I am over them. For people who want privacy and out of the spotlight, they sure do bring unnecessary attention to themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 13:11:58 GMT
I agree, but part of me somehow thinks they won't (because of the extra press coverage it will get) or he will come on his own, which to me is even worse fodder for the press.
I also think they are making it worse for themselves. If they hadn't put all that underlying dig on their website then there wouldn't have been so much media coverage about it as there has been over the last couple of days.It wasn't necessary for them to add the " extras" to the statement IMO. I agree, I hope they don't. And lets face it - if they are there they will immediately make it all about them. Wasn't there a family wedding where Meghan practically announced here pregnancy by holding her belly the entire time? It had to be Eugenie's wedding. But your right - if he goes by himself, the divorce rumors will start immediately. I have always been a Harry fan, and was excited for him to marry Meghan. But honestly? I am over them. For people who want privacy and out of the spotlight, they sure do bring unnecessary attention to themselves. I don't particularly think that they will purposely make it all about them but if they are there it will gather more press just by their presence especially the international press who might otherwise not feel it was that important to cover Beatrice's wedding. It is meant to be a fairly quite affair and a family wedding rather than the usual "Royal" wedding. I think it will be more of Meghan sticking the finger up to the whole of the UK including her in-laws if he comes on his own rather than divorce rumours to be honest.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Feb 23, 2020 14:17:01 GMT
I could see Meghan refusing to attend the wedding because of Prince Andrew. "I'm not going to sit there and make nice with your uncle the pedophile", that sort of thing. When they skipped Christmas that was my first thought.
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Post by auntkelly on Feb 23, 2020 14:37:45 GMT
I think it’s becoming more obvious every day that the split from the royal family was not well thought out before it was announced. The whole issue of the use of the name Sussex Royal should have been ironed out before the split was announced. I’m sure there are lots of other issues which haven’t been addressed. It seems like if they had taken a little more time, Prince Charles and his staff could have helped Harry and Meghan identify and address some of the issues they will be facing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 15:10:46 GMT
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Post by gar on Feb 23, 2020 15:14:43 GMT
This is an old picture they're using to send best wishes to the NZ people on a special day.
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Post by gar on Feb 23, 2020 15:19:11 GMT
I think it’s becoming more obvious every day that the split from the royal family was not well thought out before it was announced. The whole issue of the use of the name Sussex Royal should have been ironed out before the split was announced. I’m sure there are lots of other issues which haven’t been addressed. It seems like if they had taken a little more time, Prince Charles and his staff could have helped Harry and Meghan identify and address some of the issues they will be facing. I completely agree. Using that moniker was an obvious potential area of disagreement and should have been sorted out in the early stages. It's so sad that there's now an unpleasant undercurrent and it's seems that that could have all been avoided with better communications and negotiations.
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Post by silverlining on Feb 23, 2020 15:41:32 GMT
I thought that this part of their announcement was childish and tacky:
"For the above reason, the trademark applications that had been filed as protective measures and that reflected the same standard trademarking requests as done for The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, have been removed."
It sounds like "they can do it, why can't we?" Am I reading this right?
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Post by gar on Feb 23, 2020 15:45:24 GMT
I thought that this part of their announcement was childish and tacky: "For the above reason, the trademark applications that had been filed as protective measures and that reflected the same standard trademarking requests as done for The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, have been removed." It sounds like "they can do it, why can't we?" Am I reading this right? That’s how I read it too unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 17:11:07 GMT
I think it’s becoming more obvious every day that the split from the royal family was not well thought out before it was announced. The whole issue of the use of the name Sussex Royal should have been ironed out before the split was announced. I’m sure there are lots of other issues which haven’t been addressed. It seems like if they had taken a little more time, Prince Charles and his staff could have helped Harry and Meghan identify and address some of the issues they will be facing. I completely agree. Using that moniker was an obvious potential area of disagreement and should have been sorted out in the early stages. It's so sad that there's now an unpleasant undercurrent and it's seems that that could have all been avoided with better communications and negotiations. That's the bit that is so difficult to understand. I would have expected Prince Harry to know that using it past their "leave" date would not be allowed. Surely he knows what the rules/laws are and if he hadn't thought about it his staff/private secretary should have known and brought it to his attention avoiding the need to be told he couldn't. Maybe they thought we should change the law!
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Post by likescarrots on Feb 23, 2020 17:36:43 GMT
I honestly think at this point Harry doesn't know wtf to do, everything has moved SO fast, since the start of this relationship - he has a child now and it's not like if he changes his mind about all this (which I am sure he's starting to regret these moves) he can just pack up that kid and go back to England... I'm really surprised because I liked Meghan a lot but I'm starting to think that she is pulling the strings here.
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Post by mom on Feb 23, 2020 18:42:14 GMT
I honestly think at this point Harry doesn't know wtf to do, everything has moved SO fast, since the start of this relationship - he has a child now and it's not like if he changes his mind about all this (which I am sure he's starting to regret these moves) he can just pack up that kid and go back to England... I'm really surprised because I liked Meghan a lot but I'm starting to think that she is pulling the strings here. I dont know who is pulling the strings but I have caught myself thinking about the infamous 'what Meghan wants Meghan gets' line that supposedly Harry said when they were planning their wedding. I think Harry is trying to give Meghan everything she wants & demands and isn't taking into consideration that somethings are not his to give.
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