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Post by busy on Jun 17, 2020 18:26:24 GMT
I'm sure there are people with legitimate medical reasons but I think there are a lot who say they can't because they don't want to wear one. The same jerks who claim their untrained, nippy Chihuahua that just peed on the grocery store floor is a service dog.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jun 17, 2020 18:27:59 GMT
My favorite non-medical reason is “I can’t breath good” when the mask is literally to prevent SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). Oy vey.
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Post by finsup on Jun 17, 2020 18:37:49 GMT
( I bought one from brave gown and can wear it. I really suggest people try those. ) What's different about these ones that works for you, megmc? Is it a fit thing or that they're moisture wicking or something else?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 18:54:17 GMT
( I bought one from brave gown and can wear it. I really suggest people try those. ) What's different about these ones that works for you, megmc? Is it a fit thing or that they're moisture wicking or something else? I can adjust it while wearing it. It doesn’t seem as confining as the paper masks. Adding: I only can wear the mask while I am shopping, about 30 minutes.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 17, 2020 19:00:22 GMT
I can understand this. I have to wear a mask at work and I wear glasses. The mask blocks my vision somehow, and I will be wearing my glasses thinking I need to put on my glasses because I can't see. Anyone who wears progressive lenses may have trouble wearing a mask and seeing their feet. The bottom level is for reading and close up, and it makes my feet and the floor area blurry. I have tripped over things while wearing them and not paying attention. The mask probably interferes too. I would take my glasses off temporarily to walk around. I wear progressives. I can't see anything except my cheeks (or mask covered cheeks) if my head is facing forward and I look out the bottom of my glasses. I don't know anyone who can see their feet without turning their head to face down even if just slightly. The only difference with a mask is I see it instead of my bare cheeks in my peripheral vision. I do agree progressive can interfere with depth perception, but that is an issue with your glasses and, IME, is not impacted by wearing a mask.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jun 17, 2020 19:14:04 GMT
Thank you everyone. This is an adult that says they cannot wear a mask for medical reasons. I totally understand many of the valid reasons shared here. I just don’t believe they fall into any of these categories from what I know.
I hate wearing one. I don’t breathe normal with one on and will get light headed if I don’t think about it. It is nothing medical just cannot stand “breathing into my own face”. One I need to wear one I do.
I have progressive glasses that might explain why my vision seems off when I wear one also.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 19:33:48 GMT
Thank you everyone. This is an adult that says they cannot wear a mask for medical reasons. I totally understand many of the valid reasons shared here. I just don’t believe they fall into any of these categories from what I know. I hate wearing one. I don’t breathe normal with one on and will get light headed if I don’t think about it. It is nothing medical just cannot stand “breathing into my own face”. One I need to wear one I do. I have progressive glasses that might explain why my vision seems off when I wear one also. My husband and I were talking about my dislike of the mask. I have come to the conclusion that my brother and cousin probably put a sheet over me or pillowcase and tied it shut. I am 5( and a bit) years younger then they are. It would not have been the most heinous thing they did. ( btw did you know a 4 y/o deserved this type of treatment). Accepting that trauma has made it easier to wear a mask.
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Post by artgirl1 on Jun 17, 2020 19:54:25 GMT
I have copd and severe heart disease, and I wear one just fine. It would be even easier if I was on oxygen because then it wouldn't be so much of a challenge to get oxygen. I have recently gone back to work and wear the mask for 4 hour straight.
I have been on a vent for a week. Wearing a mask is a small price to pay to protect OTHERS from infections.
There is a mask pattern on Bayron Handmade (free online) that is open on the bottom and allows for a little more air circulation.
I also want to point out that wearing a mask under your nose is useless. They do the test from a swab in your nose which collects the virus (and therefore expels it). Covering just your mouth is like putting on a condom after sex.
Now, I need to pull out my tiny violin for all the "I can't wear a mask whiners".
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Post by tracyarts on Jun 17, 2020 19:56:31 GMT
Definitely PTSD. If you survived an assault, accident, or medical trauma that involved having your breathing suppressed, wearing a mask, especially a high-filtration mask can be impossible.
*** Okay, I have to amend that. It's possible but takes time to be able to do it. Exposure therapy, learning and practicing controlled breathing techniques, learning and practicing how to slow down a panic attack, possibly anti-anxiety medication.
And you may not even anticipate wearing a mask being a triggering event. You may think nothing of it, put the mask on, experience suppressed breathing, and freak the hell out.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Jun 17, 2020 21:01:04 GMT
Anyone who wears progressive lenses may have trouble wearing a mask and seeing their feet. The bottom level is for reading and close up, and it makes my feet and the floor area blurry. I have tripped over things while wearing them and not paying attention. The mask probably interferes too. I would take my glasses off temporarily to walk around. Maybe this is the issue. I wear progressives... I also have trouble going up and down stairs while wearing my progressives - but I still manage to wear a mask when I'm going out in public and need to wear one.
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Post by scorpeao on Jun 17, 2020 21:03:52 GMT
Maybe this is the issue. I wear progressives... I also have trouble going up and down stairs while wearing my progressives - but I still manage to wear a mask when I'm going out in public and need to wear one. I don't know if your last sentence is implying that I'm using it as an excuse to not wear a mask. I'm wearing one at least 8 hours a day/5 days a week, and that's just at work.
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Post by Gravity on Jun 17, 2020 21:07:16 GMT
I can understand this. I have to wear a mask at work and I wear glasses. The mask blocks my vision somehow, and I will be wearing my glasses thinking I need to put on my glasses because I can't see. Anyone who wears progressive lenses may have trouble wearing a mask and seeing their feet. The bottom level is for reading and close up, and it makes my feet and the floor area blurry. I have tripped over things while wearing them and not paying attention. The mask probably interferes too. I would take my glasses off temporarily to walk around. I wear progressive lenses and wear a mask 12+ hours per day while working. My mask in no way interferes with my glasses or seeing my feet.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 17, 2020 21:28:44 GMT
Think about people who have handicapped parking. I have seen folks hop out of their cars with better mobility then I have. But when questioned it's the invisible chronic pain condition that hinder mobility but not all the time etc. (Not that i personally would ever approproach someone I didn't think should be in that spot). but we have had those discussions here. Who deserves a handicapped spot etc. We can sit and make judgement calls on how valid someone's reasons are. Until it's an absolute law people can choose not to wear them for whatever reason. If it is a law, then how will be enforced? have to wear a medical alert bracelet? Note from a doctor? Will that satisfy people?
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jun 17, 2020 21:28:49 GMT
NY Times did a great article on how average humans don't breathe right to begin with so it can make mask wearing feel like breathing is more difficult - www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/well/live/breathing-masks-coronavirus.htmlThere was a meme a couple of days ago "If you think you hate the mask, wait until you are on the ventilator" Tasteless for sure, but gives pause
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Jun 17, 2020 22:53:40 GMT
I also have trouble going up and down stairs while wearing my progressives - but I still manage to wear a mask when I'm going out in public and need to wear one. I don't know if your last sentence is implying that I'm using it as an excuse to not wear a mask. I'm wearing one at least 8 hours a day/5 days a week, and that's just at work. No, I am sorry you thought that. I was just clarifying my earlier statement because I realized it sounded like I would put the priority on the glasses while walking. No offense intended at all.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 17, 2020 22:56:32 GMT
I'm sure there are people with legitimate medical reasons but I think there are a lot who say they can't because they don't want to wear one. The same jerks who claim their untrained, nippy Chihuahua that just peed on the grocery store floor is a service dog. Yup. This is all just a cousin to the vaccination debate. There are legit medical reasons some people can’t vaccinate, but the group of people who refuses to do it much larger than that group, and when enough people refuse, you have a problem.
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Post by katybee on Jun 17, 2020 23:04:57 GMT
I think most people can wear a mask just fine. It sucks. I hate it. But I do it because it’s the right things to do. I think a large majority of people who say they can’t are really just being whiny babies. However, I do think there are some people that have legit medical reasons. So it’s even more important for those of us who can wear masks to do so in order to protect them...
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 17, 2020 23:18:22 GMT
Thank you everyone. This is an adult that says they cannot wear a mask for medical reasons. I totally understand many of the valid reasons shared here. I just don’t believe they fall into any of these categories from what I know. I hate wearing one. I don’t breathe normal with one on and will get light headed if I don’t think about it. It is nothing medical just cannot stand “breathing into my own face”. One I need to wear one I do. I have progressive glasses that might explain why my vision seems off when I wear one also. Their inability to not wear a mask cannot hinder safety of the people around them. So if they are supposed to wear one grocery shopping and say they can’t, then they should do curbside or delivery. They can order clothes on-line or do curbside pickup as well. I thought this was an interesting article: themighty.com/2020/05/ada-hipaa-face-masks-covid-19/
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 17, 2020 23:30:17 GMT
I have asthma and wear progressive lens and wear a mask when out around the public. So do my 2 autistic sons. The masks are uncomfortable. But COVID is more uncomfortable and I want to do my part in preventing the spread of it.
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Post by bianca42 on Jun 17, 2020 23:38:50 GMT
Thank you everyone. This is an adult that says they cannot wear a mask for medical reasons. I totally understand many of the valid reasons shared here. I just don’t believe they fall into any of these categories from what I know. I hate wearing one. I don’t breathe normal with one on and will get light headed if I don’t think about it. It is nothing medical just cannot stand “breathing into my own face”. One I need to wear one I do. I have progressive glasses that might explain why my vision seems off when I wear one also. Their inability to not wear a mask cannot hinder safety of the people around them. So if they are supposed to wear one grocery shopping and say they can’t, then they should do curbside or delivery. They can order clothes on-line or do curbside pickup as well. I thought this was an interesting article: themighty.com/2020/05/ada-hipaa-face-masks-covid-19/That's a really good article.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Jun 17, 2020 23:43:11 GMT
I just bought a scarf style mask (didn't like the gator). It is light material and most of it is tucked into the front of my shirt. Easy on/off.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 17, 2020 23:43:35 GMT
I think the main medical reason for not wearing a mask is the claustrophobia factor. I wear a mask for 8 hours a day, I wear glasses, and bifocals, and I have no trouble seeing? or reading?!! that is just odd. You guys do know you can move your head, right?! LOL. I have learned to make sure I put my mask on, form it to my face, then put my glasses on over it, so the top of the mask rests under my glasses.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 18, 2020 0:07:17 GMT
They can order clothes on-line or do curbside pickup as well. The one thing that always amazes me in a lot of discussions we have here is the assumption that we all have access to the same resources. I see it especially in regards to education but here too. I know I for one would have to drive 50 miles for the nearest grocery pick up service, assuming I could get a spot in line. There is also another special caveat. I post a lot about how my isolated little area of the world has seen little covid impact. I wouldn't be caught dead right now near the closest store that provides curb side pickup. That area has several hundred positive cases. Several hundred might not be a lot compared to big cities, but it's way more then I am comfortable with at the moment. Not everyone has pick up available. Not everyone has access to masks even. Heck our health department stopped handing them out.
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Post by tracyarts on Jun 18, 2020 0:44:31 GMT
I totally get what you're saying. I now live in a mostly rural county. There hasn't been much impact among the residents here from Covid-19. In order to get curbside pickup at a supermarket, we have to drive 30 minutes to a town in the next county over, which is heavily impacted by the virus. So stay "home" and shop local grocery stores with a mask on during off-peak hours, or go to a heavily populated area where Covid-19 is completely out of control and get curbside pickup? We decided to do curbside for now simply because we want to try it out and see how it goes. But I honestly feel safer here in my own county. They can order clothes on-line or do curbside pickup as well. The one thing that always amazes me in a lot of discussions we have here is the assumption that we all have access to the same resources. I see it especially in regards to education but here too. I know I for one would have to drive 50 miles for the nearest grocery pick up service, assuming I could get a spot in line. There is also another special caveat. I post a lot about how my isolated little area of the world has seen little covid impact. I wouldn't be caught dead right now near the closest store that provides curb side pickup. That area has several hundred positive cases. Several hundred might not be a lot compared to big cities, but it's way more then I am comfortable with at the moment. Not everyone has pick up available. Not everyone has access to masks even. Heck our health department stopped handing them out.
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Post by moodyblue on Jun 18, 2020 1:14:35 GMT
I think the main medical reason for not wearing a mask is the claustrophobia factor. I wear a mask for 8 hours a day, I wear glasses, and bifocals, and I have no trouble seeing? or reading?!! that is just odd. You guys do know you can move your head, right?! LOL. I have learned to make sure I put my mask on, form it to my face, then put my glasses on over it, so the top of the mask rests under my glasses. I think how a person's glasses fit can affect how well they work when wearing a mask. I have progressive lenses and I do as you do, put the mask on, form it to my nose and then put on my glasses. But my glasses do NOT touch my cheeks, so the mask easily fits under them. But, if your glasses normally touch or even sit on your cheeks, as I’ve seen with some people, they will not sit the same with a mask on. And then that can affect how far they are from your eyes, or make it so the bifocal or progressive transitions may not be in the usual place.
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 18, 2020 1:47:59 GMT
They can order clothes on-line or do curbside pickup as well. The one thing that always amazes me in a lot of discussions we have here is the assumption that we all have access to the same resources. I see it especially in regards to education but here too. I know I for one would have to drive 50 miles for the nearest grocery pick up service, assuming I could get a spot in line. There is also another special caveat. I post a lot about how my isolated little area of the world has seen little covid impact. I wouldn't be caught dead right now near the closest store that provides curb side pickup. That area has several hundred positive cases. Several hundred might not be a lot compared to big cities, but it's way more then I am comfortable with at the moment. Not everyone has pick up available. Not everyone has access to masks even. Heck our health department stopped handing them out. You are right. That is a perspective I have based on what is available to me.
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Post by stormycat on Jun 18, 2020 2:21:52 GMT
I was out shopping with my kids the other day, my 2 yr old and 3 yr old. The 2 yr old is exempt because of his age. My 3 yr old is a severe brain injury survivor, has cp, epilepsy and is visually impaired. He uses a cane when walking. With his visual impairment the mask is distracting to him and he can’t walk safely. He also tends to breathe heavy and hyperventilate with it on, which triggers a seizure. Last week was the 1st time they have been out with me in a store in over 3 months. I was asked when entering the store how old he was, I answered truthfully and explained he had a medical condition, and I was allowed to enter. The lady on the way out was extremely nasty to me, saying I can’t just make up that he has a medical condition abd that he should be wearing them. His cane makes it obvious that he has some kind of disability, but I also flashed his medical id bracelet and she simmered down. Honestly it was just the way she came about it and was yelling and making a scene that bothered me the most.
And to someone else’s pony about resources. When they first shut my state down and our governor was adamant that people could just get their groceries or prescriptions delivered. I just laughed, not everyone can.
Grocery store pick ups were 3 weeks away for an available spot, they just didn’t have enough employees to keep up.
As far as prescriptions, my 3 yr old is on 7 different meds, 2 of them bring controlled substances. So no I can’t get them delivered, or filled early or with a 90 day supply. So yes I still had to trek to the pharmacy, and would grocery shop at the same time .
It’s not my place to worry if someone has a legit or made up reason to wear a mask. I just don’t have the time or energy to worry about it.
Like the older woman I parked next to in a disabled once, who tsk tsk me and waved her finger eat me, saying these spaces are for the disabled and I looked fine. I didn’t say a word, went to the back of my van and lifted the wheelchair out, opened the side door out and carried my disabled child out and put him in it. She didn’t have anything to say to me after that.
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Post by glory77 on Jun 18, 2020 4:30:10 GMT
I hate wearing a mask. I’m extremely claustrophobic and hope I never ever have to have an MRI because I panic just thinking about it. I also wear progressive lenses. But, I always wear a mask when I’m in stores. If I feel a little panicky, I’ll walk to a back corner and lift my mask for a few deep breaths. I hate the mask but I still wear it because it’s the right thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 6:31:14 GMT
NY Times did a great article on how average humans don't breathe right to begin with so it can make mask wearing feel like breathing is more difficult - www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/well/live/breathing-masks-coronavirus.htmlThere was a meme a couple of days ago "If you think you hate the mask, wait until you are on the ventilator" Tasteless for sure, but gives pause I told my husband just to let me go at that point. Or put me in a coma.
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Post by mlynn on Jun 19, 2020 0:41:37 GMT
I have what they call "severe' asthma, and I can wear a mask just fine. I'd really be interested to know why asthma is a valid reason. I've tried finding the answer and can't find one really either. COPD I totally get, especially if the person is on oxygen. DH has COPD. He just complains about getting too warm. He has no trouble breathing with a mask. I also have COPD - restrictive, and I am on oxygen. I have NO problem with the masks. If anything, I would think being on oxygen would make it easier as you are not having to go through the mask for oxygen. ETA: We wear 3 layer paper masks. Haven't tried cloth yet.
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