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Post by pjaye on Nov 18, 2020 3:48:41 GMT
What do you think think this cartoon/meme means? How do you interpret it?
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craftykitten
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Post by craftykitten on Nov 18, 2020 4:01:10 GMT
The logo on the butterfly is a Neo-Nazi symbol, the sonnenrad. MAGA are just revealing their true form.
(And I have heard the original context of this image but I would still have recognised it as a Nazi symbol.)
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Post by elaine on Nov 18, 2020 4:42:34 GMT
The logo on the butterfly is a Neo-Nazi symbol, the sonnenrad. MAGA are just revealing their true form. (And I have heard the original context of this image but I would still have recognised it as a Nazi symbol.) Yes, at first glance it seems like a superficial “how we change when we age/mature” cartoon, until you see the Nazi symbol on the butterfly. eta: I find it bizarre AF that someone posted a meme with a Nazi symbol on it and says “peace and love to all.”
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 18, 2020 5:21:15 GMT
I know why you're asking pjaye. When I saw the uproar on FB about the person who posted it, I was trying to work out what on earth the cartoon meant. I *think* it means that both of the critters were MAGA, and now the one on the right has evolved into a fully fledged Nazi. But I still don't get what the wording "We're supposed to" means.
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 18, 2020 5:29:03 GMT
I know why you're asking pjaye . When I saw the uproar on FB about the person who posted it, I was trying to work out what on earth the cartoon meant. I *think* it means that both of the critters were MAGA, and now the one on the right has evolved into a fully fledged Nazi. But I still don't get what the wording "We're supposed to" means. Couldn't it be the other way around? Nazi to MAGA.... deplorable? WTF?
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Post by Elsabelle on Nov 18, 2020 5:35:07 GMT
I know why you're asking pjaye. When I saw the uproar on FB about the person who posted it, I was trying to work out what on earth the cartoon meant. I *think* it means that both of the critters were MAGA, and now the one on the right has evolved into a fully fledged Nazi. But I still don't get what the wording "We're supposed to" means. Maybe a progression toward more extreme behavior with Trump’s encouragement?
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Post by hookturnian on Nov 18, 2020 5:36:58 GMT
I know why you're asking pjaye. When I saw the uproar on FB about the person who posted it, I was trying to work out what on earth the cartoon meant. I *think* it means that both of the critters were MAGA, and now the one on the right has evolved into a fully fledged Nazi. But I still don't get what the wording "We're supposed to" means. I interpreted it the same way. He can eff right off and take his activated almonds with him
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 18, 2020 5:48:35 GMT
I interpreted it the same way. He can eff right off and take his activated almonds with him Right? Knobhead. ETA: Love your username! No need to ask where you live.
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Post by lisae on Nov 18, 2020 12:55:14 GMT
Brainwashing
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Post by rickmer on Nov 18, 2020 13:13:13 GMT
i took the "we're supposed to" to mean that is how we can continue "our work" (ie: running around in nazi uniforms and jack books would not be a good look, khakis and polo shirts though.... or like lazy bikers with questionable hygiene.... no one will "recognize" us)
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 18, 2020 13:21:58 GMT
I had no idea that the symbol was neo nazi, I would have guessed that someone used to be a maga red neck and had now changed into being more open.
Now that I know the symbol...
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Post by peano on Nov 18, 2020 13:58:46 GMT
I know why you're asking pjaye . When I saw the uproar on FB about the person who posted it, I was trying to work out what on earth the cartoon meant. I *think* it means that both of the critters were MAGA, and now the one on the right has evolved into a fully fledged Nazi. But I still don't get what the wording "We're supposed to" means. I interpreted it the same way. He can eff right off and take his activated almonds with him Can you unpack activated almonds for us non-Aussies?
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Post by JustTricia on Nov 18, 2020 14:03:37 GMT
I had no idea that the symbol was neo nazi, I would have guessed that someone used to be a maga red neck and had now changed into being more open. Now that I know the symbol... Same. Not only did I not know what the symbol was, I didn’t even see it. I focused more on the MAGA hat and just saw a butterfly.
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Post by maryannscraps on Nov 18, 2020 15:50:39 GMT
That's incredibly offensive -- can you give more context on who posted it?
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Post by sueg on Nov 18, 2020 16:13:09 GMT
That's incredibly offensive -- can you give more context on who posted it? The person who posted it is a former Australian 'celebrity chef' turned conspiracy theorist. He has become more radical in his views over the years, promoting different diets, being anti-vax, believing Covid is a hoax while at the same time selling a $15000 light machine that he said was an effective Covid cure. Can you unpack activated almonds for us non-Aussies? A few years back, he was featured in a Saturday magazine that came with one of Australia's major newspapers. Each week, they ran a 'My Weekend' feature, where different celebrities described their normal Saturday routine. In it, he mentioned his breakfast as consisting of a number of foods, including 'activated almonds'. I am still not sure how one activates and almond!
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Post by pjaye on Nov 18, 2020 16:14:09 GMT
That's incredibly offensive Can you elaborate why you find it offensive?
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Post by maryannscraps on Nov 18, 2020 16:24:28 GMT
That's incredibly offensive Can you elaborate why you find it offensive? Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but I see the author sending peace and love for those that evolved into Nazis.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 18, 2020 16:31:28 GMT
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong There's no right or wrong, I was just wondering how others interpreted this image.
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Post by KiwiJo on Nov 18, 2020 18:42:24 GMT
He’s been making our newspapers too. Yeah, right........
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Post by elaine on Nov 18, 2020 18:49:30 GMT
He’s been making our newspapers too. Yeah, right........ And then you’d have to question the intelligence of someone who posted a cartoon/meme that he clearly didn’t understand. But, then again if he also publicly claims that COVID is a hoax and is an anti-vaxxer, I guess there is plenty of evidence on that score.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 18, 2020 18:53:01 GMT
we're constantly evolving?
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Post by Peal on Nov 18, 2020 18:55:47 GMT
What does it say about me that I got the activated almonds reference but didn't recognize the neo-nazi symbol?
Without the Neo-Nazi reference, it feels like a story of evolution of ideas. A change of belief. With the addition of the symbol information, it's a doubling down of prejudices being "prettied up" for general consumption.
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Post by J u l e e on Nov 18, 2020 18:57:16 GMT
I had no idea that the symbol was neo nazi, I would have guessed that someone used to be a maga red neck and had now changed into being more open. Now that I know the symbol... Same. Not only did I not know what the symbol was, I didn’t even see it. I focused more on the MAGA hat and just saw a butterfly. I didn't even see the MAGA hat. I suck at cartoons.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 18, 2020 19:12:22 GMT
So I saw the MAGA cap and the Nazi symbolism at work, but honestly I just don't understand or "get it". Must just be going right over my head.
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Post by MizIndependent on Nov 18, 2020 19:20:01 GMT
I'm actually curious to know how you interpret it, pjaye.
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Post by busy on Nov 18, 2020 19:29:20 GMT
I hate to say this, but I did not know that was a Nazi symbol. I assumed it was an intentional symbol, not a random pattern, so I didn’t know how to interpret the cartoon at all.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 18, 2020 20:02:58 GMT
I didn't know that was a Nazi symbol either. I didn't even know there was any other symbol besides the swastika that everyone knows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 20:06:48 GMT
I interpreted it the same way. He can eff right off and take his activated almonds with him Can you unpack activated almonds for us non-Aussies? When I first heard about activated almonds I assumed it was some hipster thing and rolled my eyes but turns out there's some science to it. Basically you soak raw almonds in a salt water mix and then some people dry them in the oven. I'm not sure if the drying bit is essential. I copied this from a website: Raw nuts contain numerous chemicals which actually inhibits the absorption of nuts nutrients. By activated the nuts you breakdown the problematic compounds which enhances their digestibility. I decided to try it to see what the fuss was about. I've only done the soaking bit and have to say it makes a huge difference in the taste. Raw almonds almost taste acidic and bitter compared to when they've been 'activated'.
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Post by pepperwood on Nov 18, 2020 20:17:05 GMT
I looked at it quickly at first and didn't even notice the MAGA hat or the Neo Nazi symbolism. After thinking about the responses it looks like someone took an innocent caterpillar to butterfly cartoon and photo shopped on the MAGA hat and Nazi symbol.
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Post by Really Red on Nov 18, 2020 20:26:44 GMT
So I saw the MAGA cap and the Nazi symbolism at work, but honestly I just don't understand or "get it". Must just be going right over my head. Me, too!
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