josierosie
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Post by josierosie on Dec 12, 2020 2:57:00 GMT
My husband and I live 6 hours away from his parents who are in their early 80's. DH's parents live in a small town and none of the grown children live nearby. His mother has been in a skilled nursing facility for almost three months because she broke her shoulder. DH's father is all alone at home and is fairly independent, but does not have companionship or anyone to check on him. The NH does not allow visitors due to covid. I think my husband should drive 6 hours to check on his father and stop by the NH to see his mother via a "porch visit". I don't understand why my DH won't go. DH says "what am I supposed to do?" His parents are good people, and my DH never told me any stories which would give him reason to be so indifferent toward his parents current situation. What the heck?? Both of my parents are deceased. My mother was in a NH for 5 years and my DH was very supportive of my daily visits to oversee my mother's care. Our children were young and DH never complained. I don't understand this at all!!
-JR
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Post by papersilly on Dec 12, 2020 3:22:45 GMT
Maybe YOU can drive over to check on the dad? Would your husband be ok with that?
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 12, 2020 3:24:42 GMT
Does he call and talk to his father regular? What would visits with his parent's look like in the past? With him asking "what am I supposed to do?" it sounds like he is not used to a sit and chat kind of visit unless someone else is there to lead the conversation.
It's hard to judge what someone else is able/willing to do based on what I would do. An hour is about the limit of a visit with my dad, in part because he doesn't like variation to his regimented schedule, so a 12 hour round trip drive is a big ask IMHO. Would your DH stay overnight?
With my mom's care home visits are pretty restricted. Only dad can see her once a week at a set time for an hour. Is your DH able to show up at any time?
I would encourage a video visit first and see how that goes. If they can't keep a conversation going for more than 15-20 minutes it would be hard for your DH to see the point of the drive.
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josierosie
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Post by josierosie on Dec 12, 2020 4:02:32 GMT
Papersilly, I might go ahead and visit my FIL on my own. DH wouldn't say no, but he'd wonder what I could do to help. His parents may not have any specific concrete needs, but I am so sad for them because they are all alone and none of their sons are visiting.
I feel bad for anyone who is in a NH or has a loved one in a NH during this pandemic. My mother received good care at her NH, but I was there to give her emotional comfort and to build relationships with her caregivers. I was very kind to the staff, but I also was able to keep tabs on my mother's moods, health/nutritional status, and skin (she was 100% bed bound for 3 years and did not have a single area of skin breakdown the entire time she was at the NH). I'm so sad for my mother-in-law because she's been isolated from family and none of the sons have met a single caregiver in-person. MIL is bed bound and is becoming more and more confused. I realize my DH cannot do much, but I think it's his duty to check on his parents even with the limitations due to covid.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 12, 2020 4:04:44 GMT
Your dh might be overwhelmed with the situation in that his parents have/are becoming frail. Some people find that very difficult to deal with, particularly with parents.
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Dec 12, 2020 4:11:10 GMT
Maybe he has issues with his parents and doesnt want to engage.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 12, 2020 4:24:24 GMT
If there isn’t any history of abuse or something, I’d think he’s just emotionally overwhelmed and trying to avoid the reality of his parents’ situations/vulnerabilities. As gently as possible I’d plan the trips and go with him to lend support and to visit the ILs and provide them support as best as possible.
I’m sorry you’re in such a tough situation.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Dec 12, 2020 4:30:01 GMT
Your dh might be overwhelmed with the situation in that his parents have/are becoming frail. Some people find that very difficult to deal with, particularly with parents. I agree with this. I would try to have you both take the drive and visit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 4:37:20 GMT
You expect him to drive 6 hours for a check up? That's not a simple thing. Is he calling his dad? Perhaps you should focus on getting him and his brothers to call more often vs driving 6 hours just to "stop by." For us, 6 hours will get us to Mackinac Bridge, over, and at least an hour past St Ignanic. Shit, it's 3 hours to MIL's lake house and DH hates that drive!
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Post by grammadee on Dec 12, 2020 4:57:43 GMT
Your dh might be overwhelmed with the situation in that his parents have/are becoming frail. Some people find that very difficult to deal with, particularly with parents. And if his family has a history of talking about facts/happenings and working together rather than discussing feelings, then this is a whole new chapter.
Can you go with him, share the driving or at least keep him company on the road? Be sure that a "porch visit" is doable with you mil, and then you can both visit, talk to each other if she has trouble participating in a conversation. If he is wondering what he could DO, maybe check with his dad to see if there are any projects in or around the home that dh could help with?
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 12, 2020 5:01:23 GMT
I’d be curious what his relationship was with his parents before. DH and I have totally different relationships with our parents. He’s called his every week since he left home for college. He’s now 62 and still calls his mom 1-2x a week. My mom died last year, but before then we rarely talked on the phone. We would write letters and we visited more the last few years before she died. Truthfully, it was at DH’s urging that we did visit. To this day he doesn’t get the lack of communication and I can’t explain it to him in a way he understands. People have different relationships is all I can come up with. My mom and I would goes years without communicating and then pick up right where we left off. It didn’t help that I left home and never returned after high school. We never lived close and she wouldn’t travel to see me. There were other issues, but mostly I am a product of my upbringing which tends to “out of sight, out of mind.”
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Post by catmom on Dec 12, 2020 5:37:42 GMT
There could be a lot of reasons. As others have said, some people just aren't great at processing emotions. Men are slightly less likely to have been taught how to process and show emotions, so it's possible he doesn't know how to handle seeing them. Is he usually pretty good with verbalizing feelings? He might just be an action rather than talk person.
DH is sort of the same way. He was close to his grandmother but when she went into a home for Alzheimer's he never visited her because there would be no point - she wouldn't remember him and she wouldn't be the same woman he knew. I still can't figure if he really is that matter of fact or if he is unable/unwilling to face painful feelings.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Dec 12, 2020 5:45:25 GMT
His parents may not have any specific concrete needs, but I am so sad for them because they are all alone and none of their sons are visiting. It sounds like your DH is very concrete and doesn't understand that people need more than concrete needs met to flourish and thrive. I would probably go visit to give some extra love.
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Post by ~summer~ on Dec 12, 2020 5:52:01 GMT
6 hours is a long drive and his dad is fully independent right? You expect him to drive there and check in on him then drive home? I guess I’m a little confused. Why don’t you guys go there together?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 12, 2020 6:07:02 GMT
6 hours is a long drive and his dad is fully independent right? You expect him to drive there and check in on him then drive home? I guess I’m a little confused. Why don’t you guys go there together? This is where I’m at too. He’s supposed to drive six hours to see them and then do what? Where is he supposed to stay once he’s there, or is he then supposed to turn around and drive back home? Not to mention he’s going to need to stop multiple times for gas, to use the restroom, get something to eat and all of those stops he’s likely to encounter other people which also increases risk of coming in contact with someone who has Covid, right before he sees his elderly dad. I think I too would be taking a hard pass on all of that. I think if it were me, I would step up the phone calls (or FaceTime, Skype, Google Hangouts if they have the tech to do those things) with both parents just to chat vs. going in person, especially since there really isn’t anything he can actually do, when there are other safer ways to connect with people in the current situation. He should also encourage his other siblings to step up their phone calls with mom and dad too.
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Dec 12, 2020 7:58:25 GMT
I wouldn't risk giving Covid to my elderly parent, so there would be no point in driving so far to not get near them. I know my in-laws would try to guilt my husband and me into coming into the house which would be a huge risk. Their area is experiencing the huge spike in cases and hospitals are at capacity. Getting Covid would be a death sentence.
My mom is taking Covid seriously and doesn't have visitors unless they hang out on her deck, which isn't easy to do in cold weather.
12 hours is a long way to drive to not have a decent visit. I'd feel guilty if there was something my parent needed that I couldn't do without risking her life. Even though I have been sheltering in place and taking Covid seriously I could get Covid germs on me at the gas station of whatever and transfer them.
Would your husband's mom even be able to get to a porch for a visit?
Just because someone is family doesn't mean that you have anything in common or that they appreciate the efforts you make to be close.
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Post by tentoes on Dec 12, 2020 14:24:48 GMT
My dd and her husband bought an ipad for his parents so they could do facetime with them. His father is very hard of hearing, and phone calls don't go over too well--but seeing them, and talking on facetime is going well. His mom especially likes it. They are both in their 80's and live in New York. My daughter and son in law live in California, so visiting regularly is hard during this pandemic. They did meet this past summer at the family cottage in Connecticut for 2 weeks but it's hard because dd and sil had to fly there. Then they "quarantined" for several days before his parents got there.
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 12, 2020 15:02:53 GMT
You understand there is a pandemic happening right?
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Post by lisae on Dec 12, 2020 16:04:55 GMT
Six hours is a long drive. Could he do a video chat? Is your FIL tech savvy for that? The nursing home should be able to arrange one for his mother.
My question is whether he visited them before their health declined? If he wasn't in the habit of visiting then, then he isn't likely to visit that much now particularly with restrictions. Some families just don't visit. I don't agree with it and can't imagine not keeping a check on my parents. I have a cousin who lived about 6 hours from his parents and he came to see them two or three times a year from what I remember but he stayed the weekend of course. It is too long a trip not to. He has a brother who lived next door to the parents so he knew they were checked on daily.
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Post by peabay on Dec 12, 2020 16:12:26 GMT
I understand your concern, OP. You feel badly for them. And I agree with what someone said above - your husband sounds like he's not a particularly sentimental sort who would go in a heartbeat if he was "needed" for something tangible but doesn't really see the need for emotional support.
I would make an effort to call more - but maybe he is like your husband and would be like "I'm fine. I don't need anything - why are you calling?"
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Post by elaine on Dec 12, 2020 16:19:13 GMT
If you love and care about your dh’s parents, don’t strongarm him into driving 6 hours, potentially bringing them COVID, finding places to eat and sleep - increasing his risk of contracting COVID if he doesn’t already have it, then driving home 6 hours to potentially bring COVID into your house.
There are other ways to check in with his parents right now. These times are very different than when your mom was in a nursing home. It isn’t safe - especially with COVID running rampant through the nation - to go visit right now.
I’m going to drop off Chanukah food for my mom shortly. It is only a 45 minute drive to her assisted living. But I still don’t get to talk with her- I get to drop off bags on a table in a foyer and then a staff member brings them into the building and gives them to her. So, I don’t get to see her at all - no porch visits, etc. We talk on the phone and text. Your husband can do that with his parents. I doubt that he would be allowed anywhere near his mom as it is.
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Post by mama2three on Dec 12, 2020 16:24:24 GMT
You understand there is a pandemic happening right? This. No way would I want to risk potentially bringing Covid to an elderly relative-or in that same vein risk picking it up from someone in that community or along the route at a gas station, travel plaza or hotel And then bringing it back home. Not to mention the possible need to quarantine at each end of the trip. We also have a lot of elderly relatives out of state and it’s very hard not being able to visit, but we’re in the midst of a pandemic.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Dec 12, 2020 17:04:20 GMT
I’d be curious what his relationship was with his parents before. DH and I have totally different relationships with our parents. He’s called his every week since he left home for college. He’s now 62 and still calls his mom 1-2x a week. My mom died last year, but before then we rarely talked on the phone. We would write letters and we visited more the last few years before she died. Truthfully, it was at DH’s urging that we did visit. To this day he doesn’t get the lack of communication and I can’t explain it to him in a way he understands. People have different relationships is all I can come up with. My mom and I would goes years without communicating and then pick up right where we left off. It didn’t help that I left home and never returned after high school. We never lived close and she wouldn’t travel to see me. There were other issues, but mostly I am a product of my upbringing which tends to “out of sight, out of mind.” My sister and I have completely different relationships with our parents. She lives in OH, 8 hrs away from us, and I am in MD about 20 min away from them. She talks to them 1-2x a DAY, and I rarely talk or text them. But, part of that is she is not married or have kids, and I have my own family, and I just don't need my mom up in my shit every day, LOL. She and my sister were always closer, and that has just continued. I respect that, and I also realize I could probably make the effort if I wanted that kind of relationship with them, but honestly, I just don't LOL. I would be resentful if someone judged/compared my relationship with my parents with my sister with the way they thought it "should be."
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Dec 12, 2020 17:07:07 GMT
I personally would not drive six hours, spend two hours visiting, and then turn around and drive the six hours back home. So you're not proposing a quick drive across town to see them and check in on them. You're proposing a minimum two-day trip.
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Post by melissa on Dec 12, 2020 19:27:05 GMT
Let it go. If you want to go out there, do it but do consider the risk/benefit ratio. Who is really benefitting from this?
I am confused about the need to see his father in person when the risk is not exactly low. 6 hours is not exactly a short jog. And a trip to wave from the porch is one that I would have a tough time making as well.
My MIL lives alone in FL and has recently been showing signs of dementia. We are in NJ so not exactly easy to get to and not low risk either. I do talk to her more often than dh does. Oddly enough, my dh has visited my father, prepandemic, most often than I have. My father has become quite frail in the last two years and also lives in FL He lives with his wife. I do try to check in with him by phone every other week or so. If he lived alone, we would have had to have had him move in with someone or move to a memory assisted living type facility. I know there is a possibility I will not see him in person before he passes away but I do not see taking the risk of possibly bringing the virus to him as being worth the risk.
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Post by peaname on Dec 12, 2020 19:42:32 GMT
We don’t get to dictate other people’s relationships.
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Post by nellej on Dec 12, 2020 21:13:48 GMT
Can't one of you give him a ring every day instead?
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Post by scrappinmama on Dec 12, 2020 21:28:14 GMT
There are a lot of variables involved here. Six hours is a long drive. He would have to stay someplace. Is he worried about staying in a hotel, either due to finances or due to potential exposure to COVID? Is the relationship a bad one? Is he possibly overwhelmed or even nervous at seeing his parents in declining health?
My mom is 90 and lives 1,000 miles away. I would love to see her. But traveling would expose me to the virus and would end up exposing her as well. I call her daily and I pay for her grocery deliveries. It's the only way I can help her right now. Maybe suggest that you do things to help that doesn't require a 6 hour drive and exposure to COVID. Even if your father in law is independent, something as simple as having his groceries delivered would be help for him.
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Post by bearmom on Dec 12, 2020 22:54:20 GMT
You expect him to drive 6 hours for a check up? That's not a simple thing. Is he calling his dad? Perhaps you should focus on getting him and his brothers to call more often vs driving 6 hours just to "stop by." For us, 6 hours will get us to Mackinac Bridge, over, and at least an hour past St Ignanic. Shit, it's 3 hours to MIL's lake house and DH hates that drive! My saving grace: they raised the speed limit on US2, I agree 6 hours is a long drive to stop and check in on someone. Does FIL have any friends he is interacting with? Do you (or dh) FaceTime him at all? I could see making the drive if FIL seemed off in some way: was getting forgetful, seemed depressed, etc.
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Post by pelirroja on Dec 12, 2020 23:42:26 GMT
OP you don't understand why your DH won't go but I myself am having difficulty understanding why you think he should. Can't he FaceTime if need be? Driving 6 hours for a porch visit? No way!
Try to understand your DH has his own way of interacting with his parents. Rightly or wrongly, it's his relationship to navigate in the way he sees fit.
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