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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 29, 2020 19:53:04 GMT
elaine that is an absolutely tragic story. It makes me very sad.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 29, 2020 21:55:28 GMT
Did you read the story I linked above about the 25 y.o. in TN with Autism who wore his masks and was worried about those who came into his place of work without masks? The non-maskers that he had to deal with not only didn’t care that he was able to wear a mask even though he had a disability, they didn’t care that their going maskless caused him psychological and then physical harm. He died of COVID. I think that your and your dd’s concerns are real and valid. It's causing many of us psychological harm. And people are quick to dismiss that. Or make fun of it, living in fear, are we? This is so true. I have been so terrified of this killing my father since March. And now, there’s a very real chance it will happen, and the anxiety symptoms are so bad I must medicate every day This anxiety is real! The symptoms are real. And some people ridicule people like me, saying things like, “i won’t live in fear”, and “it only kills the old and sick“ it makes me want to scream.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 29, 2020 22:02:35 GMT
It's causing many of us psychological harm. And people are quick to dismiss that. Or make fun of it, living in fear, are we? This is so true. I have been so terrified of this killing my father since March. And now, there’s a very real chance it will happen, and the anxiety symptoms are so bad I must medicate every day This anxiety is real! The symptoms are real. And some people ridicule people like me, saying things like, “i won’t live in fear”, and “it only kills the old and sick“ it makes me want to scream. My like was in solidarity with you. I'm sorry your dad is fighting this right now. I read the thread and didn't comment because it went south. But he's in my prayers... I'm so sorry.
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pridemom
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Post by pridemom on Dec 29, 2020 22:21:53 GMT
I work in Civil Rights and Disability issues are my specialty. If all customers are required to mask, and no exceptions are made, it was not an act of discrimination.
This is a public health crisis, not an excuse to exclude persons with disabilities. The argument about watching a movie not being necessary for living isn’t applicable here, though. Does the theater have to make a reasonable accommodation? Usually, but in these times it doesn’t appear so. Disney World has a mask requirement for ages 2 and up, no exceptions. You agree to abide by the requirements when you purchase tickets. If it’s clearly posted at the ticket counter, you agree to follow the requirements when you buy your ticket.
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twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Dec 30, 2020 0:05:12 GMT
Rights of the disabled do not trump public safety.
So a blind or otherwise disabled person might be denied that highly-coveted seat with lots of extra leg room in the emergency exit row of an airplane. Even if he booked it in advance and paid for an upgrade, the airline can reassign the seat once it becomes aware of the disability that would possibly interfere with an efficient evacuation in case of emergency.
A person with a disability may be denied a job if the disability interferes with safety and there is no reasonable accommodation. So an employee at an oncologist's office may not be allowed to work if he or she cannot wear a mask for medical reasons and there are no other jobs available that allows the employee to avoid patient contact or if there is no way to keep the patients safe. This risk that employee poses to immuno-compromised patients may be too great to allow the employee to go maskless.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 30, 2020 1:15:37 GMT
I work in an elementary school with special needs kids. All of the kids, including ones with significant disabilities wear masks as do the teachers and staff. Before September, I was really concerned about enforcing mask wearing. Surprisingly, all of the kids have been very complaint and there have been very few issues. I recognize that not everyone can wear one, but with a little practice and work, I think the majority of kids can.
I do think the movie theater could have done more to accommodate the family. Come back later after hours, a private viewing room, a theater with fewer people and posted signs that masks might not be worn by everyone, enter at your own risk etc. A movie theater near us used stacked containers to make a drive in theater.
The people in the theater with the family did not choose to be there with unmasked patrons.
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Post by samantha25 on Dec 30, 2020 2:02:47 GMT
I work in an elementary school with special needs kids. All of the kids, including ones with significant disabilities wear masks as do the teachers and staff. Before September, I was really concerned about enforcing mask wearing. Surprisingly, all of the kids have been very complaint and there have been very few issues. I recognize that not everyone can wear one, but with a little practice and work, I think the majority of kids can. I do think the movie theater could have done more to accommodate the family. Come back later after hours, a private viewing room, a theater with fewer people and posted signs that masks might not be worn by everyone, enter at your own risk etc. A movie theater near us used stacked containers to make a drive in theater. The people in the theater with the family did not choose to be there with unmasked patrons. Why...watch a movie at home. Get some popcorn set up pllows..make it special wherever they live. Why is it up to AMC? How much did it cost for the family to attend this movie? 50 bucks? Thats a lot of money that they could get a DVD player and DVD from the library, or other reasonably priced venues, like red box or etc. Not sure why going to movie at this time is wise without a mask.
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Post by laureljean on Dec 30, 2020 2:44:19 GMT
DGD is three and has Down Syndrome. She has no problem wearing a mask. Her parents got her pretty ones and they practiced wearing them at home. I call BS on it being discrimination.
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twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Dec 30, 2020 3:13:04 GMT
We will have to agree to disagree then: People with disabilities don’t have the right to kill innocent people through potentially exposing them to COVID, in my opinion. Potentially killing scores of people is very different than isolating people with disabilities because they make people psychologically uncomfortable or inconvenienced. I am happy that laws in the USA support this view. People with disabilities can wear masks. And, if for some reason they can’t, there are a myriad of ways for them to have social interactions in safe ways during this pandemic. I know. This is my life 24/7. You can have social interactions online - severely disabled non-verbal young adults are able to manage online schooling. There are outdoor events. There is FaceTime on iPads. No, the interactions aren’t the same, but choosing to not wear a mask doesn’t mean that you can’t have safe interactions. And, you know what, social interactions aren’t the same for ANYONE during this pandemic. It sucks. But just because it sucks doesn’t mean someone - with or without disabilities - has the right to be exempt from standing laws and potentially kill people through the spread of COVID. Yes definitely agree to disagree. I think the way we've started telling people they are killing others if they pass on a virus is ridiculous, it is not a malicious act, it has been happening since the beginning of time. Like i said im not anti mask and always wear one when required but not all people can socialise online. The people i support are not of school age and have had their day centres closed, none that I can think of even have a computer or a phone. It is a malicious act if you KNOW that not wearing a mask means you might pass on a deadly disease. If you choose to ignore the safety concerns and go about your business as if there is no pandemic, you don't get a "pass" because you have some issue that prevents you from wearing a mask.
And there really are not very many reasons for not wearing a mask.
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Post by phoenixcov on Dec 30, 2020 12:13:42 GMT
And there really are not very many reasons for not wearing a mask. I have a valid reason for not wearing a mask (Type 2 Respiratory failure) BUT I choose not to inflict my non mask face on the public. Disability is not a get to do what you want card anymore than being non disabled is.
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