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Post by liya on Nov 12, 2014 14:28:44 GMT
My kids would disown me if I ever reenacted a personal photo of them like that. I have never seen the show, and have absolutely no context, but I'll give my opinion anyhow. My personal opinion: ick. I was going to post something very similar to this statement. My teen DS would be so embarrassed if I posted a photo like this; especially if it was reenacting a photo of his. I'm pretty sure my 21 yo DD would not be fond of it either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 14:48:45 GMT
If they had all just left it alone, it would have gone away. But no, they all had to take pics of themselves doing the same thing, so now it's back out there. That assumes they wanted it to go away. I doubt they want the publicity to stop. They live for publicity.
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Post by gloryjoy on Nov 12, 2014 15:07:26 GMT
If they had all just left it alone, it would have gone away. But no, they all had to take pics of themselves doing the same thing, so now it's back out there. That assumes they wanted it to go away. I doubt they want the publicity to stop. They live for publicity. Exactly. I think Jim Bob and Michelle hatched up the plan to keep the spotlight on it. I have no problem with Ben and Jessa's picture, didn't bother me one bit.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Nov 12, 2014 15:09:27 GMT
My honest opinion is these kids really are not in love. They are probably in love with the idea of being "in love". Without spending some real quality alone time (and no I am not talking about sex) it is really hard to know what the person is really like. I don't agree with anything they do. Do they really think these boys will behave anything less than stellar around the parents? Would any boy really do that? They have a chance to be a part of this huge conglomerate industry. Who wouldn't be a "good" kid to get in on that.
I honestly believe that while they may eventually fall in love once they are married, I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that any of the kids were really in love when they got married.
What if they want to divorce? Will that be allowed? I really feel bad for this family.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 12, 2014 15:28:08 GMT
My honest opinion is these kids really are not in love. They are probably in love with the idea of being "in love". Without spending some real quality alone time (and no I am not talking about sex) it is really hard to know what the person is really like. I don't agree with anything they do. Do they really think these boys will behave anything less than stellar around the parents? Would any boy really do that? They have a chance to be a part of this huge conglomerate industry. Who wouldn't be a "good" kid to get in on that. I honestly believe that while they may eventually fall in love once they are married, I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that any of the kids were really in love when they got married. What if they want to divorce? Will that be allowed? I really feel bad for this family. Agreed. They never had a chance to find out if there was anything better out there than the pre-approved husband found by creepy daddy. And I doubt divorce would be allowed. It would completely destroy the family image.
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Post by songbird on Nov 12, 2014 15:59:07 GMT
I saw the picture shortly after Jessa posted it on IG and read some of the comments. There were plenty of people calling them out saying it wasn't Christian of them to post that and how Jim Bob doesn't have control over her anymore obviously, and I wonder what her parents think, etc. Not that I want to see JB & Michelle doing that, but I do understand they did it to basically say, yes, we are aware of it, and no, we don't have a problem with it. It's amazing that no matter what this family does, people have a problem with it. Being Christian doesn't mean you aren't sexual (not saying anyone here said that - I'm talking about the IG commenters). What's amazing to me is that Kim Kartrashian has just done a cover showing her bare ass, and a picture of a young, married couple kissing is causing this sort of uproar? Makes no sense to me.
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Post by brina on Nov 12, 2014 16:03:11 GMT
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Post by likescarrots on Nov 12, 2014 16:18:26 GMT
I think it is weird that two people who are so modest they wouldn't even kiss before marriage are now perfectly comfortable posing pics of themselves making out.
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Post by oh yvonne on Nov 12, 2014 16:24:52 GMT
Ghastly. I've wanted to punch Michelle's lights out since I saw pictures of her posing with her last, poorly baby, and even though the baby was ill, she was in full Elizabeth Arden mode, with that ludicrous hairstyle primped and sprayed within an inch of its life. And this is the bit that got me, she was looking at the camera and not at the baby in the picture. All kinds of wrong. Having had a baby in the NICU, I can assure you that I did not look at my child every moment. And there are pictures taken of me and my daughter in the NICU where I am looking at the camera. I promise you, I loved her very much. I happen to like their family and I admire the way the live their lives. Do I do everything the way they do? No. But that doesn't mean I think they are crazy or wrong. It works for them and that's ok. I think having a personal choice to save yourself for marriage is a great thing. Did I? No. But part of me wishes I would have. And LOTS of people having children at the beginning of their marriage. Heck, many people already HAVE A child when they get married. I don't know why it bothers anyone that they want to have children right away. Again, I didn't have a child right away, but I don't think it's really fair to think someone should have a waiting period to start a family because that's what was right for you (general you). THANK YOU! What ridiculous comments! Seriously? She shouldn't have had makeup on and she had to keep her eyes locked on her babe at every moment? Gah.... I can't believe how nasty and hateful people are to these people..its like they are salivating for something, anything, bad to happen to them or to one of their kids. Now THAT'S gross.
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Post by songbird on Nov 12, 2014 16:37:41 GMT
I think it is weird that two people who are so modest they wouldn't even kiss before marriage are now perfectly comfortable posing pics of themselves making out. So if they had kissed before marriage, it would then be less weird for you? They didn't kiss before marriage because of their beliefs. I don't have to agree with them to understand it. They waited for the physical side of their relationship and are now celebrating and enjoying that. A simple picture of them kissing just seems fairly normal considering most people their age are or have engaged in sexting, sending naked pictures and many have random sex partners. What is weird to me is saying that's okay but a seemingly happy couple can't share their love with the world now that they are enjoying one another and are married?
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Post by smartypants71 on Nov 12, 2014 16:55:22 GMT
I don't know much about the Duggars other than they have a crap ton of kids. Both the men in those pics look like they really don't want to be there. Reminds me of the praying mantis:
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Post by auntkelly on Nov 12, 2014 17:04:44 GMT
I don't have any problems with the Duggars' religious beliefs or values, and they seem like a very happy family. I certainly don't see eye to eye with them on everything, but I don't think their values are harmful. (So what if someone wants to wait until they are married to kiss? I could care less).
What I do think is strange about the Duggars (and all reality tv families) is why they would want to play out their lives in front of the tv camera. I wonder what it is like to be a reality tv star. It seems like if your wedding is going to be an episode on your reality tv series, your wedding day would feel like another day at work.
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Post by scrappingbuckeye on Nov 12, 2014 17:04:47 GMT
Yea that's just creepy.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Nov 12, 2014 18:08:53 GMT
Gross! I can't watch that show because the moms voice drives me nuts and the dad just skeevs me out.
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Post by pierogi on Nov 12, 2014 18:18:27 GMT
I try to ignore them, but the Duggars are everywhere these days. It's strange that these people who are so intent on judging others (Michelle's political robocalls about transgender people being pedophiles, the "Nike" thing with women, etc) are so eager to broadcast their own intimacy. It's skeevy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:27:21 GMT
confirms why I don't watch this show.
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Post by likescarrots on Nov 13, 2014 0:34:09 GMT
I think it is weird that two people who are so modest they wouldn't even kiss before marriage are now perfectly comfortable posing pics of themselves making out. So if they had kissed before marriage, it would then be less weird for you? They didn't kiss before marriage because of their beliefs. I don't have to agree with them to understand it. They waited for the physical side of their relationship and are now celebrating and enjoying that. A simple picture of them kissing just seems fairly normal considering most people their age are or have engaged in sexting, sending naked pictures and many have random sex partners. What is weird to me is saying that's okay but a seemingly happy couple can't share their love with the world now that they are enjoying one another and are married? It would be less weird, yes. I don't really care what their beliefs are. If they want to wait to kiss it's whatever to me. But it is WEIRD that two people who didn't want to even touch each other before they got married are now happy to plaster themselves all over the internet touching eachother. I'm not remotely prude and you will not find a picture of me and my husband making out... anywhere, because I think it's weird, and doubly since they were so modest about it before hand.
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Post by maryland on Nov 13, 2014 0:49:29 GMT
I just don't get the no physical stuff before marriage, I just don't. Chaperoning grown ass adults is just weird. I also find it so sad they get pregnant right away. No time to enjoy just being in love and with your partner, just sad to me. I don't get why holding hands kissing or even having sex before marriage is bad. I agree. To me, holding hands is sweet and innocent. It made me smile to see my 15 yr. old holding hands with her Homecoming date. Such a sweet couple. My husband and I were so happy to see her so happy.
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Nov 13, 2014 14:33:30 GMT
I have to admit, I have always liked them. Can't explain why, I just do.
When I first opened the thread and saw the pics, I went 'Ewww!'. But after reading why they did it, it doesn't really bug me.
As to them getting married so soon, having kids right away, etc. there are plenty of people who marry people they barely know and/or have babies that were conceived on a one night stand.
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Post by songbird on Nov 13, 2014 15:05:22 GMT
So if they had kissed before marriage, it would then be less weird for you? They didn't kiss before marriage because of their beliefs. I don't have to agree with them to understand it. They waited for the physical side of their relationship and are now celebrating and enjoying that. A simple picture of them kissing just seems fairly normal considering most people their age are or have engaged in sexting, sending naked pictures and many have random sex partners. What is weird to me is saying that's okay but a seemingly happy couple can't share their love with the world now that they are enjoying one another and are married? It would be less weird, yes. I don't really care what their beliefs are. If they want to wait to kiss it's whatever to me. But it is WEIRD that two people who didn't want to even touch each other before they got married are now happy to plaster themselves all over the internet touching eachother. I'm not remotely prude and you will not find a picture of me and my husband making out... anywhere, because I think it's weird, and doubly since they were so modest about it before hand. I added a bold to your response above. They didn't touch one another due to beliefs...not because they didn't want to. They were showing restraint based on their religious beliefs. That's a big difference. I can also understand wanting to share your very first kiss in private because I wouldn't want to feel awkward about it - especially after what people were saying about Derick and Jill's first kiss at the altar. I wouldn't post the picture either, but I also could care less that they did. I think it's pretty mild compared to what other "reality" tv people put out there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 15:34:04 GMT
Interesting to see which comment and picture the Duggars deleted. (Reason [HASH] 793875 why the Duggars make me sick) *Looks like they've deleted more than just the one picture since the article linked above was written.
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Post by likescarrots on Nov 13, 2014 15:51:28 GMT
It would be less weird, yes. I don't really care what their beliefs are. If they want to wait to kiss it's whatever to me. But it is WEIRD that two people who didn't want to even touch each other before they got married are now happy to plaster themselves all over the internet touching eachother. I'm not remotely prude and you will not find a picture of me and my husband making out... anywhere, because I think it's weird, and doubly since they were so modest about it before hand. I added a bold to your response above. They didn't touch one another due to beliefs...not because they didn't want to. They were showing restraint based on their religious beliefs. That's a big difference. I can also understand wanting to share your very first kiss in private because I wouldn't want to feel awkward about it - especially after what people were saying about Derick and Jill's first kiss at the altar. I wouldn't post the picture either, but I also could care less that they did. I think it's pretty mild compared to what other "reality" tv people put out there. Wooosh.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Nov 13, 2014 16:06:27 GMT
I read they were getting negative feedback bc some people thought the photo was very racy and sexual looking.. I think some people get too involved, lol. Quite honestly, it looks like Jessa is a pro and her hubby looks like a wet noodle. He doesn't even look interested in the pic. IMO of course.
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Post by peasful1 on Nov 13, 2014 16:14:23 GMT
That is disturbing on so many levels.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 13, 2014 16:35:10 GMT
My honest opinion is these kids really are not in love. They are probably in love with the idea of being "in love". Without spending some real quality alone time (and no I am not talking about sex) it is really hard to know what the person is really like. I don't agree with anything they do. Do they really think these boys will behave anything less than stellar around the parents? Would any boy really do that? They have a chance to be a part of this huge conglomerate industry. Who wouldn't be a "good" kid to get in on that. I honestly believe that while they may eventually fall in love once they are married, I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that any of the kids were really in love when they got married. What if they want to divorce? Will that be allowed? I really feel bad for this family. I don't watch this show, but your comment reminded me of a study I read a few years ago that was looking at how the norms for dating, marriage and divorce rates have changed over time. What's interesting is that if you look at the impromptu marriages of the early 20th century - particularly the booms around WWI and WWII where people were jumping into marrying people they'd known for extremely short periods of time - divorce rates were low, and probably more importantly considering the stigma of divorce, marital satisfaction was quite high. Even in cultures where arranged marriages still occur (these are Americans who are still adhering to their cultural norm) the marital satisfaction was much higher than for those who "fell in love" before marriage. The study theorized that many modern day marriage suffer from the fairy tale syndrome - where they believe love conquers all, and their life/marriage will be romantic and perfect because they're in love. When their relationship inevitably hits a bump, they are more apt to believe that it's a sign that it's not "true love" versus a normal part of a relationship. While those who married before love, are more apt to have an expectation that marriage requires effort, and won't be "perfect". It ultimately led to higher marriage satisfaction. Sorry this is totally off topic - but I thought it was interesting how one's expectations about marriage play a role in your ultimate happiness and the impact of "being in love".
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Nov 13, 2014 16:43:04 GMT
That's sooooo weird!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Nov 13, 2014 16:58:11 GMT
My honest opinion is these kids really are not in love. They are probably in love with the idea of being "in love". Without spending some real quality alone time (and no I am not talking about sex) it is really hard to know what the person is really like. I don't agree with anything they do. Do they really think these boys will behave anything less than stellar around the parents? Would any boy really do that? They have a chance to be a part of this huge conglomerate industry. Who wouldn't be a "good" kid to get in on that. I honestly believe that while they may eventually fall in love once they are married, I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that any of the kids were really in love when they got married. What if they want to divorce? Will that be allowed? I really feel bad for this family. I don't watch this show, but your comment reminded me of a study I read a few years ago that was looking at how the norms for dating, marriage and divorce rates have changed over time. What's interesting is that if you look at the impromptu marriages of the early 20th century - particularly the booms around WWI and WWII where people were jumping into marrying people they'd known for extremely short periods of time - divorce rates were low, and probably more importantly considering the stigma of divorce, marital satisfaction was quite high. Even in cultures where arranged marriages still occur (these are Americans who are still adhering to their cultural norm) the marital satisfaction was much higher than for those who "fell in love" before marriage. The study theorized that many modern day marriage suffer from the fairy tale syndrome - where they believe love conquers all, and their life/marriage will be romantic and perfect because they're in love. When their relationship inevitably hits a bump, they are more apt to believe that it's a sign that it's not "true love" versus a normal part of a relationship. While those who married before love, are more apt to have an expectation that marriage requires effort, and won't be "perfect". It ultimately led to higher marriage satisfaction. Sorry this is totally off topic - but I thought it was interesting how one's expectations about marriage play a role in your ultimate happiness and the impact of "being in love". Hmmm, that is interesting but I have quite a few family members that are in arranged marriages. Both from Iran and the U.S. While they are still together, they by no means have a happy marriage. They simply coexist. I do know other family members that fell in love but also just coexist. I realize there are variations on all of this but your post is interesting. I think in this day and age, younger people are less willing to take the bad with the good because they see other people's lives plastered online and they think that everyone else is happy so why can't they be. They don't realize that people only post about happy stuff. My parents have all these friends whose kids are my age or younger and are on their 2nd and 3rd marriages. My sister and I have been married for 20 years each and we dated for 6-7 years prior to that. It hasn't always been easy but we love our dh's. It is so sad that many people don't realize there will be bumps in the road.
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Post by finsup on Nov 13, 2014 17:27:37 GMT
Haha. Did they learn nothing from Bill Cosby's "meme me" and Dr. Oz's "ask me your medical question" posts recently?
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Post by mystuffandnat on Nov 13, 2014 17:38:49 GMT
Since I have read all the way to the end of this I have to ask huh???
I so want to make a comment here but like all Duggar post and the train wreck I can't look away from, I just read and laugh and laugh and laugh...keeps me from being creeped out
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Post by monicad on Nov 13, 2014 17:46:22 GMT
Since I have read all the way to the end of this I have to ask huh???I so want to make a comment here but like all Duggar post and the train wreck I can't look away from, I just read and laugh and laugh and laugh...keeps me from being creeped out Josiah went to ALERT Academy: ALERT
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