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Post by MichyM on Jun 1, 2021 20:19:53 GMT
I have no idea why, but until the last couple of days I have never heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre as far as I recall? This was a terribly tragic and horrific event, and I just don’t know why that is. I may possibly have learned about it in school (late 60’s and 70’s) and forgotten, I dunno. But even so, as an adult I don’t remember the media or the president addressing it. I do realize that this is the 100th anniversary, so it’s a bigger deal this year, but still..... I’m in the PNW, so nowhere near Tulsa, and have never visited...does that have something to do with it? Had you heard of it? How far back do you remember knowing about it? ETA 6/2: My hope was to keep this thread on topic as to when different peas learned about the massacre (and similar events in the US's history). However, there are some who want to discuss the politics of it all, so go for it if you must. I'm amused this morning watching someone(s) add the red political label to this thread, and then someone(s) else removing it. It can stay for all I care  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 20:32:25 GMT
I have no idea why, but until the last couple of days I have never heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre as far as I recall? This was a terribly tragic and horrific event, and I just don’t know why that is. I may possibly have learned about it in school (late 60’s and 70’s) and forgotten, I dunno. But even so, as an adult I don’t remember the media or the president addressing it. I do realize that this is the 100th anniversary, so it’s a bigger deal this year, but still..... I’m in the PNW, so nowhere near Tulsa, and have never visited...does that have something to do with it? Had you heard of it? How far back do you remember knowing about it? I only learned of it a few years ago. It DISGUSTS me that I was not taught about this appalling incident in American history. But then, the internment of the Japanese was fairly well glossed over too. But we can't teach real history in America. It offends the MAGAs and the Karens. First President in 100 years to come to Tulsa to mark this atrocity. |
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Post by MichyM on Jun 1, 2021 20:48:59 GMT
I have no idea why, but until the last couple of days I have never heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre as far as I recall? This was a terribly tragic and horrific event, and I just don’t know why that is. I may possibly have learned about it in school (late 60’s and 70’s) and forgotten, I dunno. But even so, as an adult I don’t remember the media or the president addressing it. I do realize that this is the 100th anniversary, so it’s a bigger deal this year, but still..... I’m in the PNW, so nowhere near Tulsa, and have never visited...does that have something to do with it? Had you heard of it? How far back do you remember knowing about it? ETA: I’m about halfway through today’s “The Daily” podcast and it’s becoming clearer as to why I hadn’t heard of it. ETA again: highly recommend the podcast. It’s about 25-30 minutes long and explains how and why this massacre was suppressed all these years. |
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Post by travelsoul on Jun 1, 2021 20:50:05 GMT
Today the podcast “The Daily” had a very educational and somber episode about it. Like you, I do not remember learning about this in school. After listening to the podcast episode, I am positive that it wasn’t taught.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 21:03:00 GMT
Red states ejaculating laws at a fast clip to PREVENT the teaching of history to American students. www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2021/jun/01/critical-race-theory/547952/"Across the United States, state legislatures are showing a newfound interest in — and aversion to — critical race theory, or CRT, an academic movement that systematically considers how even seemingly neutral laws, regulations and social norms can have different impacts on particular racial and ethnic groups. It examines how legislatures at times target racial minorities for adverse treatment — such as recent voter suppression laws in Arizona, Georgia and Iowa — and, at other times, are simply indifferent to how new laws will impact those outside the majority." CRT teaches WHY minority communities are often shut out of wealth and prosperity by CENTURIES of injustice, racism and laws that bend over backwards to give whites preference. But we can't teach that. Truth/facts/data/evidence NEED NOT APPLY. The red states got their BULIEFS! and that's all they need! |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 1, 2021 21:09:03 GMT
I learned about it a few years ago via a mention on a tv show.
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Post by tuva42 on Jun 1, 2021 21:14:57 GMT
I only learned last year during the BLM protests. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and I was not taught about this in school. Nor was I taught about other massacres, lynchings and Jim Crow election laws. I just saw a post by a woman in her early 40s who grew up and still lives in Tulsa and SHE just found out about it.
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Post by mom2jnk on Jun 1, 2021 21:43:47 GMT
I grew up in northern WI and I am certain that it was never taught in the years that I was in school (70s-early 80s).
The first time that I can remember learning of the Tulsa Race Massacre was last year at this time. I was horror struck by the revelation, but even more so this year learning that it wasn't just Tulsa, but so many more "race riots" over many years, in many locations across the country. Absolutely disgusting that they are still referred to as "riots," rather than the massacres they were. Equally appalling that none of these events are incorporated into the teaching of history.
I once read that "history is written by the victors." And those victors are most often white Anglo-Saxon men. It is beyond time for our history to be properly told, with reverence towards those who have been wronged.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 1, 2021 21:45:30 GMT
I didn't go to school in the US, but my kids are pretty recent grads and weren't taught anything about the Tulsa Race Massacre.
Juneteenth is another event that I only learned about in the last couple years and they weren't taught.
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Post by freeatlast on Jun 1, 2021 21:52:49 GMT
It was last year for me. The Burning: The Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921 by Tim Madigan is a good read.
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Post by simplyparticular on Jun 1, 2021 21:58:15 GMT
My spotty childhood education definitely didn’t include it, but it was also invisible in my secondary education. My thesis was on early 20th century consumer culture.
I learned about the Tulsa Massacre from a book called The Color of Law - on red-lining and real estate segregation through FHA housing loans - pretty sure it was from NPR’s site about 3 years ago.
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Post by scorpeao on Jun 1, 2021 22:00:34 GMT
I have no idea why, but until the last couple of days I have never heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre as far as I recall? This was a terribly tragic and horrific event, and I just don’t know why that is. I may possibly have learned about it in school (late 60’s and 70’s) and forgotten, I dunno. But even so, as an adult I don’t remember the media or the president addressing it. I do realize that this is the 100th anniversary, so it’s a bigger deal this year, but still..... I’m in the PNW, so nowhere near Tulsa, and have never visited...does that have something to do with it? Had you heard of it? How far back do you remember knowing about it? I only learned of it a few years ago. It DISGUSTS me that I was not taught about this appalling incident in American history. But then, the internment of the Japanese was fairly well glossed over too. But we can't teach real history in America. It offends the MAGAs and the Karens. First President in 100 years to come to Tulsa to mark this atrocity. but man, they sure did go into depth about Nazi Germany. I guess it's only important to cover it in history when it's not your country? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 1, 2021 22:49:55 GMT
Not only had I never heard about the Tulsa Massacre until last year, apparently it was not talked about all that much in Tulsa.
I did learn about the Japanese Internment Camps and the German Prison of War camps, but I was in grammer school then. One would think it was discussed possibly at home too, although not too much certainly after my Uncle was killed in the Pacific.
Speaking of Germany. I learned to make paper woven German Christmas Stars, but of course they were not called German, just Christmas Stars.
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Post by kraft4fun on Jun 2, 2021 0:05:00 GMT
Tulsa, Rosewood (FL) and I am sure there are others we didn't know about. I went to school in Miami, did not know about Rosewood until doing a project on FL in 10th grade American History and lets just say I really got into that project. It was an 18 week assignment and that is what I worked on, researched daily. Everyone in the class had a different state to research. It is just crazy.
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Post by andreasmom on Jun 2, 2021 0:22:48 GMT
I learned about it only a couple of years ago. I’m in the PNW but did not grow up in the US. I started learning about Juneteenth and that led me to TRM. Then last year happened. I decided to learn more American history so I cpuld understand what’s going on better. Started reading Heather Cox Richardson and Caste by Isabel Wilkerson. Have not finished it yet.
I have so much more to learn/read…
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Post by peabay on Jun 2, 2021 0:23:25 GMT
I think it's mentioned in "Killers of the Flower Moon" because I recall, when I was reading it, thinking "wait, THAT happened?!?!!" Either it was in the book or I did more research into Tulsa on my own while reading it and found out about it. But I only read the book 2 or 3 years ago, so I definitely didn't learn it in school.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 2, 2021 0:30:09 GMT
I have no idea why, but until the last couple of days I have never heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre as far as I recall? This was a terribly tragic and horrific event, and I just don’t know why that is. I may possibly have learned about it in school (late 60’s and 70’s) and forgotten, I dunno. But even so, as an adult I don’t remember the media or the president addressing it. I do realize that this is the 100th anniversary, so it’s a bigger deal this year, but still..... I’m in the PNW, so nowhere near Tulsa, and have never visited...does that have something to do with it? Had you heard of it? How far back do you remember knowing about it? ETA: I’m about halfway through today’s “The Daily” podcast and it’s becoming clearer as to why I hadn’t heard of it. ETA again: highly recommend the podcast. It’s about 25-30 minutes long and explains how and why this massacre was suppressed all these years. ABC has a multi-episode podcast about it. The mayor had not learned about it in school. ETA: I heard about for the first time a few years ago; I grew up in CA FWIW. |
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Post by jayfab on Jun 2, 2021 0:32:21 GMT
You're not alone. I just heard about it this year and was definitely not taught it in school. It's been bothering me how whitewashed our history is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 0:34:24 GMT
I learned about "The Tulsa Race Riots" in school briefly, but only learned of it in the context of a massacre as an adult.
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Post by MichyM on Jun 2, 2021 0:35:27 GMT
ETA: I’m about halfway through today’s “The Daily” podcast and it’s becoming clearer as to why I hadn’t heard of it. ETA again: highly recommend the podcast. It’s about 25-30 minutes long and explains how and why this massacre was suppressed all these years. ABC has a multi-episode podcast about it. The mayor had not learned about it in school. ETA: I heard about for the first time a few years ago; I grew up in CA FWIW. Thank you. After listening to The Daily’s podcast today, I’d like to know more. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 0:41:55 GMT
I was in high school during the LA riots. My social studies teacher touched on other race related riots/massacres as part of a current event assignment. History was my minor so I was required to take two American history classes, one covering founding to civil war and the other covering post-civil war to Vietnam. We had an unit that covered the different race riots which made me read several articles about Tulsa among others.
It was not taught to my kids but I always felt their history classes skimmed over everything too quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 1:08:58 GMT
I think it's mentioned in "Killers of the Flower Moon" because I recall, when I was reading it, thinking "wait, THAT happened?!?!!" Either it was in the book or I did more research into Tulsa on my own while reading it and found out about it. But I only read the book 2 or 3 years ago, so I definitely didn't learn it in school. That must be where I got it too. I do remember it's been a few years but I was astounded I'd never heard of it. Kept in the dark by the status quo. Thankfully, the light is getting in, finally. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 1:15:49 GMT
107 years old. This beauty.
She wants acknowledgement.
She still remembers the smell of the burning flesh
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Post by myshelly on Jun 2, 2021 1:22:45 GMT
I don’t mean to be contrarian, but this IS political.
Everything about this is political.
The reason you didn’t learn about it in school is political. The reason you haven’t heard of it until now is political. The reason some people call it a “race riot” instead of a massacre is political.
The issue of reparations is being fought right now and is political.
Red states are currently passing laws saying schools can’t teach about this event and that’s political.
I don’t think you do this subject justice without acknowledging the political.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 2, 2021 1:35:46 GMT
yes political
"But we can't teach real history in America. It offends the MAGAs and the Karens."
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 2, 2021 2:22:24 GMT
Way back in the mid 1970’s I was taking some night classes at the local JC. One of the classes I took was a history class.
The teacher was a Vietnam Vet who had been a POW. In class he talked about how they weren’t teaching about the Vietnam War in the high schools.
I felt really bad for him. The man fought in a nasty war, been captured by the enemy and who knows what he went through until he was released and his country wanted to pretend it didn’t happen.
I checked google and apparently there is still struggle on if and how to teach about The Vietnam War.
The point of this post is that it appears this country has a history of cherry picking what they teach our kids.
I suspect other countries do it as well.
To try and pretend the Vietnam War and the Tulsa Race Massacre, and other events didn’t happen by choosing not to teach about them in our schools is political. IMO.
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Post by peano on Jun 2, 2021 2:32:01 GMT
I grew up two hours from Tulsa, went to college there and lived there for 8 years. I never knew about its existence until one of the local newspapers (The Tribune? RIP) did a story on it. However, this was probably around the mid-80s and it was called the Tulsa Race Riot.
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Post by 16joy on Jun 2, 2021 2:57:31 GMT
I was not taught about this in school if my memory serves me well. It appears from the peas that most weren’t taught about it in school.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 3:13:09 GMT
Nope. Not schooled about Tulsa, or massacres of native Indians, or internment of citizens due to race. No Vietnam either but then again we were busy living it.
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Post by snugglebutter on Jun 2, 2021 3:20:16 GMT
I only found out about it in the last 2-3 years.
I have heard several people from the Tulsa area say that they weren't taught about it either, or that it was just mentioned in passing as a race riot.
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