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Post by scrappinghappy on Jun 29, 2021 5:39:43 GMT
We had dinner with friends tonight and they are looking at purchasing burial lots in a local cemetery and prepaying as much of the mandatory expenses as possible.
Seems like the cheapest Jewish funeral in the Chicagoland area will set you back $28,000!!!!!!
Nuts! I told them I want a plain pine box. Well...apparently those go for $1800. My hubby could build one for $100 tops.
Gonna have to rethink my options and talk to the kids. Maybe burial at sea. I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there.
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Post by AllieC on Jun 29, 2021 6:36:37 GMT
That's crazy. My Mum's lovely funeral last year cost about $8000 AUD all up including coffin, cremation, funeral home fees, lots of flowers, newspaper notice etc.
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Post by miominmio on Jun 29, 2021 7:01:25 GMT
We had dinner with friends tonight and they are looking at purchasing burial lots in a local cemetery and prepaying as much of the mandatory expenses as possible. Seems like the cheapest Jewish funeral in the Chicagoland area will set you back $28,000!!!!!! Nuts! I told them I want a plain pine box. Well...apparently those go for $1800. My hubby could build one for $100 tops. Gonna have to rethink my options and talk to the kids. Maybe burial at sea. I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there. You need to check out the Scottish rules before making a descision. My impression is that most European countries have stricter rules about spreading ashes than the US.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jun 29, 2021 8:42:09 GMT
You need to check out the Scottish rules before making a descision. My impression is that most European countries have stricter rules about spreading ashes than the US. There are actually a rules about human remains and ashes in the US as well. When you get your loved ones ashes, they really are not just ashes. Many times small bits and pieces of bones and skull are in the ashes. I've heard vague rumors that some crematoriums will sift those and break up the bigger pieces. So what you end up with is more like sand than ashes.
Cremation does save some money, but there are still a lot of expenses that remain the same as in funerals. Then for some religions, there are other considerations to take care of that add to the expense.
I've heard, most of the time, the cost of a funeral is not something people want to skimp on when dealing with it for a loved one. Which gives you something to think about.
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Post by gar on Jun 29, 2021 8:49:34 GMT
That's crazy! My Mum's funeral cost in the region of £5000 (GBP)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 8:51:53 GMT
I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there. Seriously? you own a piece of land that is 39 inches by 39 inches. I'm totally gobsmacked that the land registry would register a piece of land that size.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 8:54:13 GMT
My parents had prepaid funeral plans, they paid in the region of £2,000 each in 2011. I was really grateful that their wishes were detailed in the plans.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jun 29, 2021 10:10:07 GMT
My dad's funeral was around 5k. We had a nondenominational service at the funeral home and a lovely luncheon for about 35 people. We didn't have a wake and he was cremated.
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Post by Patter on Jun 29, 2021 10:28:52 GMT
I believe the U.S. average is $10,000. We already have our plots, and they were $2,000 for both. We will be cremated, and our ashes in memorial plots at our church. Cremation is certainly cheaper.
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Post by KelleeM on Jun 29, 2021 11:05:57 GMT
Cremation is far cheaper. My dh and I had discussed what he wanted long before his death, thankfully.
He was cremated and we had a ‘celebration of life’ at the funeral home for 4+ hours. It was just like a wake except his remains were there and not his body. It cost a bit over $5000 including the obituary in the local paper. Flowers were separate.
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Post by MrsDepp on Jun 29, 2021 11:10:41 GMT
And to my understanding, the costs increase yearly. At least that was what I was told when we paid for our mausoleum and prepaid funeral. They would not allow us to prepay the paperwork part such as death certificate, newspaper, etc but would allow an account that you can add to as much as you’d like, whenever you’d like for as long as you’d like.
I’m sure with all of the busyness from the covid, prices have went thru the roof here as well.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 29, 2021 11:14:00 GMT
It can be done far cheaper. My dad's youngest brother died and left instructions that my dad handle the arrangements. My uncle had no money. I knew it was coming, so I planned it out ahead of time. We had uncle cremated and held a small memorial at my church. I bought deli trays, buns, and a cake. Friends at church made coffee and lemonade. All in, it was about $1000.
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Post by lisae on Jun 29, 2021 11:28:35 GMT
I'm in a small town, low cost of living area. Just paid for a funeral that was $8,500 plus flowers. The plot was at a church and was no cost. Grave digging expenses are included in that number. Closed casket, no visitation at the funeral home, no processional, graveside service. The casket I selected was nice and what my mother had requested but not nearly as expensive as many on display. We did the visitation at my mother's home so the funeral home had no part in that.
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Post by lesley on Jun 29, 2021 11:28:47 GMT
We had dinner with friends tonight and they are looking at purchasing burial lots in a local cemetery and prepaying as much of the mandatory expenses as possible. Seems like the cheapest Jewish funeral in the Chicagoland area will set you back $28,000!!!!!! Nuts! I told them I want a plain pine box. Well...apparently those go for $1800. My hubby could build one for $100 tops. Gonna have to rethink my options and talk to the kids. Maybe burial at sea. I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there. That’s hilarious that you own ‘land’ in Scotland! Whereabouts in the country is it? Do they tell you the exact location? Maybe one of us could go and take a photograph of it for you! And if it’s at the bottom of my garden, then it’s high time you got those weeds under control. 😄
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Post by cakediva on Jun 29, 2021 11:46:04 GMT
I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there. Seriously? you own a piece of land that is 39 inches by 39 inches. I'm totally gobsmacked that the land registry would register a piece of land that size. It is definitely a thing - my kids bought DH the same thing for Christmas, which officially made him a Lord lol. Waiting on the official paperwork to come in the mail, but I do believe it will have the coordinates of where it is.....
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Post by cakediva on Jun 29, 2021 11:50:35 GMT
We had dinner with friends tonight and they are looking at purchasing burial lots in a local cemetery and prepaying as much of the mandatory expenses as possible. Seems like the cheapest Jewish funeral in the Chicagoland area will set you back $28,000!!!!!! Nuts! I told them I want a plain pine box. Well...apparently those go for $1800. My hubby could build one for $100 tops. Gonna have to rethink my options and talk to the kids. Maybe burial at sea. I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there. That’s hilarious that you own ‘land’ in Scotland! Whereabouts in the country is it? Do they tell you the exact location? Maybe one of us could go and take a photograph of it for you! And if it’s at the bottom of my garden, then it’s high time you got those weeds under control. 😄 OMG Lesley - that would totally be hilarious!! The kids bought DH one for Father's Day. Buying a "plot" was a huge thing circulating here at Christmas time. It was normally $200, but there was a Father's Day sale so the girls picked it up for $50 lol. If we get coordinates I'm totally sending them to you ha ha. The official paperwork we printed off for the certificate does say "The Lord hereby covenants with Established Titles that the dedication agreed upon in this Proclamation is for the Lord and their successors in title only and that they and any of their successors shall not sell the dedication of plot number XXXXXXX more specifically not in such a way that it could be registered or owned in separate titles or in separate ownerships.
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Post by Fidget on Jun 29, 2021 11:55:33 GMT
I paid about $7500 for DH funeral in 2019. That was just the funeral home expense, it did not include the luncheon that followed, nor did that include a burial plot. Funerals are definitely expensive.
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Post by kaycee on Jun 29, 2021 11:59:58 GMT
We had dinner with friends tonight and they are looking at purchasing burial lots in a local cemetery and prepaying as much of the mandatory expenses as possible. Seems like the cheapest Jewish funeral in the Chicagoland area will set you back $28,000!!!!!! Nuts! I told them I want a plain pine box. Well...apparently those go for $1800. My hubby could build one for $100 tops. Gonna have to rethink my options and talk to the kids. Maybe burial at sea. I do own some land in Scotland my son gifted me. It's 1m x 1 m but maybe they can go on vacation and scatter my ashes there. That’s hilarious that you own ‘land’ in Scotland! Whereabouts in the country is it? Do they tell you the exact location? Maybe one of us could go and take a photograph of it for you! And if it’s at the bottom of my garden, then it’s high time you got those weeds under control. 😄 My nephew owns a plot of land in Scotland and he is a Lord. His is in or near Glencoe at Highland Titles Nature Reserve. He has the coordinates and when we were travelling in Scotland a few years ago we went there and took photos for him. It’s a lovely spot with a stream close by. He’s a mad fisherman so was happy about that, but was disappointed that there was a “No Fishing” sign so he can’t even fish from his own “land”.
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Post by lindas on Jun 29, 2021 12:17:35 GMT
I paid about $7500 for DH funeral in 2019. That was just the funeral home expense, it did not include the luncheon that followed, nor did that include a burial plot. Funerals are definitely expensive. With the veterans discount I paid about the same for DH in 2019. No cost for the burial plot since DH was buried in the veterans cemetery and DS insisted on paying for the luncheon.
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Post by teddyw on Jun 29, 2021 12:19:11 GMT
I believe the U.S. average is $10,000. We already have our plots, and they were $2,000 for both. We will be cremated, and our ashes in memorial plots at our church. Cremation is certainly cheaper. I’m wondering what the plots are for if you’re being cremated?
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 29, 2021 12:19:14 GMT
I remember when my grandfather died—he was divorced from my grandmother and estranged from most of his kids, but the kids still handled the funeral, and my mother brought me along when they made arrangements — I was all of ten years old and still could not believe how much everything cost.
I am still in my 40s and am not thinking about any of this, but two of DH’s grandparents were cremated and had their ashes scattered, and I see both the pluses and minuses to doing something like that (I think it was less about the cremation and more about the lack of a funeral—I know dh had trouble processing without any ritual).
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Post by whipea on Jun 29, 2021 12:47:47 GMT
Four years ago I paid $650.00 for my mother's cremation. She was in a nursing home and all assets were liquidated prior to her placement in the facility. So, she was on medicare and medicaid and that is what I paid. No funeral, she was almost 100 so no friends and no family except me and I did not need an event. I keep her and my father's ashes in my closet.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jun 29, 2021 12:49:56 GMT
I believe the U.S. average is $10,000. We already have our plots, and they were $2,000 for both. We will be cremated, and our ashes in memorial plots at our church. Cremation is certainly cheaper. I’m wondering what the plots are for if you’re being cremated? I think some people inter the ashes?
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Post by natscraps on Jun 29, 2021 12:54:33 GMT
I’m wondering what the plots are for if you’re being cremated? Unless everyone for generations plans on keeping them on the mantle or you have a specific place you want them spread (and there are laws about that) they have to end up someplace. We’ll be having this discussion with FIL soon because I don’t think his new wife enjoys having my MIL’s ashes prominently displayed on their bookshelf.
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Post by MrsDepp on Jun 29, 2021 12:54:56 GMT
For those of you looking into cremation, check your local laws. I was told when we bought our burial items that here, in Louisiana all it takes is 1-NO and a cremation can NOT be completed.
A few years later
I had an aunt die her 2 adult children wanted her cremated and my grandmother told the funeral director she wanted a burial and the funeral director (different one from the one I used) did not do the cremation.
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 29, 2021 13:13:40 GMT
I've heard vague rumors that some crematoriums will sift those and break up the bigger pieces. The ashes and any thing remaining is sorted through. Any 'new' body parts (hips, screws, etc) is tossed. The remaining bones are put through a hammer mill to pulverize, then it is sealed in a bag. I’m wondering what the plots are for if you’re being cremated Most people I know have the urn interred at a cemetery with a head stone. I know there is a lot of ash spreading done, without any real permission. It is not really a legal thing to do, but who is going to know. I know of a few that split up the ashes, so family members can all have a little bit. Funerals, even cremations, are shockingly expensive and real hardship for many. Just think about it, if rent and food are an issue every month - toss in a several thousand dollar funeral on that. I see a lot of Go Fund Me's for funerals. That is so sad. One young gal lost her mom in a horrific car accident. It was so bad. But the local funeral director, who also had to collect the remains from the scene, really helped her out and was able to go through the Iowa Cremation Society for a very low cost service. But in Iowa, the lowest cost is just under $1000. Social Security will pay about $250 for death expense, if you qualify. It's tough. When a loved one passes, you are under major stress. The though of doing the 'cheapest' option can be off-putting. To say the least. Immediate cremation is the cheapest, but as it says - it is immediate. It's hard to process that sometimes. So do you family a favor. Express your wishes and have them in writing! That way they know. They can say "This is exactly what Mom wanted" .. it makes a difference. Spending 5K to 20K is just nuts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 13:33:29 GMT
24 years ago, my grandfather's funeral was $5,000+ and he had the whole kit and caboodle. Fast forward to my grandma (his wife), 20 years later, just to have her cremated was $5000. That's not including the paperwork fees, the service, etc. Since then, nearly every family death I've had to deal with (other grandparents, my mom, my uncle) were in the neighborhood of $8-9,000. My aunt was joking that she should have her wife bury her somewhere on their 4 acres just to avoid the costs.
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Post by Linda on Jun 29, 2021 13:36:00 GMT
direct cremation in my area is $1900 - no service, no wake, no urn (ashes returned in a cardboard box). And it needs to be paid up front if there isn't life insurance.
When my mum died in 2019 (not local to me) - we did direct cremation with a funeral home service and buried her ashes in her parents' plot, added her to the existing stone. It was about $6-7000.
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Post by shanniebananie on Jun 29, 2021 13:41:28 GMT
My FIL spent about $31,000 on my MIL’s funeral in 2017 and we just spent $17,000 on my FIL’s last month. We really tried to keep costs down for his but all the little things just add up. It is truly outrageous!
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jun 29, 2021 13:57:08 GMT
Unfortunately I do. Lost DH and my Dad w/in 3 months of each other in '19
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