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Post by finsup on Aug 31, 2021 20:11:43 GMT
Update: my group started to make specific plans on our FB page so I decided to put a message on there saying, “Quick question: For myself right now I’m not doing any indoor overnights unless everyone is fully vaccinated. Are we all fully vaxed?” I figured that was a good way to state my stance without calling this friend out specifically. And she replied that she’s had her shots! I am so happy she changed her mind. Now I have to weigh the risks of an overnight with fully vaxed friends. And I think I might be okay with it because I don’t have any little ones that I’d be around when I get back and can pretty much isolate for a couple of weeks afterward.
I’m supposed to attend a girls’ weekend away in a private home with a group of about 10 friends in a couple of weeks. This is a yearly trip that we canceled last year due to Covid but scheduled for this year because yay, vaccines! However, one person in the group is not vaccinated. I’m hesitant to go. I’m still following guidelines (back to masking in public) but I can’t find information on recommendations for this specific scenario. I’m starting to wonder if I’m overreacting because I seem to be the only one in the group with concerns, even among my friends who have approached the pandemic the same way as me up to now.
Help! I miss my friends but I also don’t want to die. 😄
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Post by christine58 on Aug 31, 2021 20:14:35 GMT
Have that person wear a mask. Or suggest she get tested. Why isn’t she vaccinated?
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Post by beaglemom on Aug 31, 2021 20:15:24 GMT
Nope. My mom's best friend went to a gathering of 11 other women. 1 was not vaccinated. 8 of them ended up with covid because the one that wasn't vaccinated came and was asymptomatic.
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Post by mom on Aug 31, 2021 20:16:58 GMT
If you are vaccinated the chances of you dying are very slim. I would go. Life is really short and you are probably around unvaccinated people all the time. I would ask that unvaccinated person to wear a mask.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 31, 2021 20:22:36 GMT
This is a yearly trip that we canceled last year due to Covid but scheduled for this year because yay, vaccines! However, one person in the group is not vaccinated. I’m hesitant to go. I would not go and let everyone else in the group know exactly why. A friend had this dilemma with her book group. They met via Zoom for most of the last year and went to an outdoor meeting as their area allowed. With one hold-out and a desire to go back to hosting in their homes, they told the single unvaccinated member that she could participate via Zoom but was not invited to attend in person. IMHO, unvaccinated people can go about their merry way but should have ZERO expectation that the rest of their friends will continue to let them participate in person. FWIW, I get that there is a lot of pandemic fatigue and most people avoid confrontation, but this my line in the sand. FWIW, when other members of the group are faced with picking to side with her or you, remember they have picked the vaccinated side already. They may be relieved to hear you say no. ETA NONE of the unvaccinated people I know would wear a mask for a weekend around friends. They don't believe in masking, social distancing or vaccinating.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 31, 2021 20:23:32 GMT
I would stay home. I am avoiding the unvaccinated as much as possible.
That one person could be a person to infect everyone else.
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Post by mayceesgranny on Aug 31, 2021 20:23:47 GMT
I would have some concerns, but I feel like being vaccinated is very good protection in this type of situation. Sure wish that one person would be vaccinated too! Even that is no guarantee that you won't contract the virus. You will have to decide how much risk you are willing to take to enjoy the weekend. Maybe you can sit farther away from this person and sleep in a different room or wear a mask?
In almost every area of our lives we are coming into contact with the unvaccinated (work, school, family members, stores, etc) we might not even know they're not vaccinated.
Honestly, the only way you can be perfectly sure you'd be safe is to not go. I hope you are able to go, enjoy yourself and relax and stay well.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 31, 2021 20:26:57 GMT
Not me. My friend and her brother got infected at a family celebration. I wouldn’t go if the unvaccinated person is coming.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 31, 2021 20:28:49 GMT
if anything, the unvaccinated one shouldn't go. not fair to all of you.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Aug 31, 2021 20:29:14 GMT
I wouldn't go.
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Post by floridagirl on Aug 31, 2021 20:31:46 GMT
Its a tough one, but no I would not attend. As my daughter likes to remind me, you will never regret not going, but if you get sick you will regret going.
I would tell the others why you aren't going. it is the unvaccinated person's right not to get vaccinated, but I believe it is your right to choose not to be around unvaccinated people. My work did a Town Hall meeting a week ago and this was discussed. You won't be socially distancing the entire time, masks won't always be worn, you will be eating and drinking and be near that person for an extended period of time, as opposed to just popping in the grocery store.
Good luck with your decision, its a tough one. Go with your gut!
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Post by Nink on Aug 31, 2021 20:34:13 GMT
Nope. We had a BBQ with our neighbors about three weeks ago. There was eight of us, all vaccinated. Two days later two people from the group tested positive for Covid. Both felt pretty crappy, but didn’t need to be hospitalized, so in that regard the vaccine worked. The rest of us tested negative.
This Delta variant is proving to be a formidable beast.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 31, 2021 20:36:01 GMT
No. It's one thing for me to go to Target, with a mask on, knowing that there are other people meandering around in there with masks on who are not vaccinated.
What you are talking about is spending a lot of time in close contact, I am assuming indoors, I am assuming talking a ton, I am assuming eating and drinking together. Days of it. I would not do that, as a vaccinated person (this is in part because I have kids who are not vaccinated, but I'm not really comfortable doing it right now with how health care providers are slammed, period). I'm back to not indoor dining right now, and that's with much more distance between me and the strangers at other tables than I expect I would have with friends.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Aug 31, 2021 20:36:02 GMT
if anything, the unvaccinated one shouldn't go. not fair to all of you. This!
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Post by katlady on Aug 31, 2021 20:37:07 GMT
I probably wouldn’t go because of the length of time you will all be around each other. If it was for a few hours, I would go.
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 31, 2021 20:42:25 GMT
Honestly at this point I wouldn’t go with the vaccinated.
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Post by paigepea on Aug 31, 2021 20:46:46 GMT
From what I understand, vaccinated people are catching Covid when they socialize with unvaccinated people.
I’m so sorry, but I wouldn’t attend. We are only socializing indoors with vaccinated people at the moment.
Can you join for some outdoor activities?
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Post by nlwilkins on Aug 31, 2021 20:47:06 GMT
What if one of the vaccinated ladies had a break-through case and did not know it until too late? A person is contagious 2-3 days before symptoms appear. Vaccinated people can get it, just not as bad they say. Every doctor I have talked to say it is still possible to get covid if you are vaccinated, but it is just not as lethal. For me, this new variation just resets the clock and my husband and I have to go back to quarantine. Otherwise, all the measures we have taken so far will be in vain.
That is my concern about attending meetings and being around other people. If husband gets covid, he will probably not survive due to his ongoing cancer treatments. He has a better chance of survival; now it is probably not survive, instead of definitely not survive. But, why risk it.
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Post by silverlining on Aug 31, 2021 20:58:15 GMT
I can't believe that the unvaccinated "friend" would go to an event like that knowing everyone else takes the virus seriously and is vaccinated. If you are eating and drinking together, all of you will be unmasked part of the time. Are you sharing bedrooms? Do any of you have unvaccinated children?
Any one of you could be asymptomatic and exposing others to the virus. The unvaccinated person is most at risk of getting seriously ill. I would not be comfortable, and wouldn't have much fun. I wouldn't go, and would explain that I thought it was too much of a risk for the unvaccinated person.
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Post by Merge on Aug 31, 2021 21:02:17 GMT
I would not even if everyone was vaccinated. It’s too much time spent in close contact with too many people - not at all like brief casual contacts in a store.
I can’t risk being asymptomatic or lightly symptomatic (because real talk: teachers don’t get to stay home for a sniffle) and infecting my unvaccinated students.
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 31, 2021 21:05:04 GMT
Nope ... I wouldn't go. I've drawn my line in the sand on this, and unvaccinated is where it's at for me at this point.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 31, 2021 21:07:08 GMT
I would ask the others how they feel about univiting the unvaccinated person. If you get pushback, I’d ask the unvaccinated person to social distance the week before the getaway and be tested 24 hours before the weekend (assuming that you are in an area that can get tests back in 24 hours. Otherwise, I would not attend.
I’m sorry that your “friend” has put you in this position.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 31, 2021 21:09:22 GMT
Nope.
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Post by melissa on Aug 31, 2021 21:14:04 GMT
No. If everyone attending was vaccinated, I would go. I will not attend events like this with unvaccinated people.
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Post by wellway on Aug 31, 2021 21:14:12 GMT
No.
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Post by scorpeao on Aug 31, 2021 21:22:26 GMT
NOPE! The unvaccinated can transmit Covid to the vaccinated. While being vaccinated pretty much ensures you won't need hospitalization, I wouldn't want to bring it home to my vulnerable friends and family.
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Post by flanz on Aug 31, 2021 21:26:48 GMT
if anything, the unvaccinated one shouldn't go. not fair to all of you. That's how I feel. I'm also feeling very much less safe indoors even if everyone is fully vaccinated. ugh!
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 31, 2021 21:27:26 GMT
Nope. For any and all the reasons mentioned above.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 31, 2021 21:39:39 GMT
How does the unvaccinated person feel like she can even go? If everyone else is vaccinated? I’d put the question to the group.
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Post by maryland on Aug 31, 2021 21:42:07 GMT
The unvaccinated person should be the one that doesn't go. Unfair to the rest of you if she goes. But I am pretty frustrated with anti vaxxers at this point
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