Crop & Create Cardmaking March 2022

I got mine last night too and requested to join the group - even though I dont chat in it

I got the email for the papercrafting event in April. Should be lots of fun - the fall event was awesome.

Please share - what’s the rule?

Very interesting. If I paid for the classes/product (sight unseen) and end up not liking some of the product, stamps included, or get duplicates of ink pads I already own (which happened in both November events) I should be able to sell them. I can see not selling the instructions I guess. Maybe they don’t want the “exclusive” products marked up for resale.

It’s not like we got them free as part of a design team (which I sometimes see those people sell their stuff, but it’s mostly giveaways since the product was free to them for their design work).

I noticed it too and it rubbed me the wrong way. I haven't gotten rid of any products from their event, but there are several stamps I will NEVER use again. Am I supposed to hang on to this stuff forever? And although we did get a lot of product, we purchased it sight unseen.

Sorry for the rant. I am excited about the event and I love seeing new techniques and ideas.

I'm so excited for the event! But...
yeah...
I've purchased this product and will do with it what I want now? I can understand not reselling it BEFORE the event. But after, I don't think they have a legal leg to stand on.

Thanks.  I signed up for this and need to check my email.

Unfortunately, too much was going on and I still haven't finished my November classes

I get what they're saying but I just can't imagine this is a major problem. How many people would sign up for this event simply to sell off the product? It can't be that profitable, surely. And if they wanted to profit off of more than just one box of product they'd have to use a new name for each google form in order to register, making it a tedious process just to sign up in order to sell the goods. It certainly can't be enough to hurt a business's future sales - and if a set is exclusive, it's not like the company is banking on those future sales of it, anyway. Yes, I can see how it would be annoying, of course. I did see one posting on Facebook last spring selling off a few of the products from the card making event, but that's it, and it was on the Sunday night when the classes were ending. 

I think once the event is over it's up to us if we want to sell our supplies or not. If I sell a stamp set on my local kijiji, how can that possibly be a major problem? I do agree that using the teachers' images to advertise the product is wrong as that is their own artwork. I have one or two stamp sets that I absolutely dislike, but no one to give them to. I don't see what's wrong with selling them when I sell a box of scrapbooking and card making supplies later this spring like I usually do once a year.

I'll be interested to read the email coming this week. Again, not a major issue for me but I do find it kind of an overreaction. I would hate to think that people are signing up for a spot and then not using it to actually attend when there are people on waiting lists, of course, but you can't really control what people do once you sell them the spot - you can't force them to attend.

I'm totally with them on not using instructors images. But, to say you can't sell them at all, even after the event? That seems unreasonable to me. Plus, what if I gift them to a friend and they sell them? What if I use them XX times and then destash them next year?

Hello friends, Catherine here. Owner of Scrapbook & Cards Today magazine and Crop & Create events. I always appreciate the support from this group. Truly.

I wanted to jump in to help clarify the "re-sale" of items discussion. We discovered during the first day of the last cardmaking event that more than a comfortable amount of product was being sold off, brand new, not used, some for quite a profit and teacher's images were being used to show off the products. We were pretty surprised. Can we stop this? No. All we could do is respectfully ask and explain why it's an issue. Can we make anyone take their sale down or stop anyone from selling off the product long after the event? Of course not. Are there people purchasing these event boxes to sell off exclusives? There are. And more than you might think.

In our registration document for our March event we stated that the product was not for resale purposes and by registering that was agreed. We assumed if people read that and still registered, then it was agreed. We appreciate people are buying sight unseen and some product may not be to their liking which is why they wish to de-stash. The biggest problem is that the sale of product is happening the weekend of the event or before our partners have had a chance to release them. Maybe the middle ground is, if you're going to de-stash, wait 60-90 days? We do worry our partners may not be as enthusiastic to creating exclusive products moving forward if this issue grows. Some of the event products may be released by the manufacturer later, while some have chosen to keep it completely exclusive to the event. This one is tricky and to know us, is to know, we are just trying to make sure everyone is happy. Not in a million years did we expect the response we have had to these events and the joy they have brought to us and so many around the world.

I'm happy to check back on this thread and answer any questions at all or, feel free to reach out to me any time at catherine@scrapbookandcards.com.

Again, appreciate the spirit of the discussion and always open to suggestions!

catherinesct Thank you for your reply. I certainly agree that it's not cool to sell the items before the event or use the instructors photos to sell the items. As I mentioned up thread, there are some sets that I won't use again. They're just not the kind of cards I make and send. To say that I am not allowed to sell them really rubbed me the wrong way. All my crafty friends (six others!) attended the last event so I don't have anyone to gift them to. But at some point I will have to de-stash. And honestly, it's not just C&C acquired sets. I've attended other virtual events that I have products I don't use. That all said, I do appreciate the generosity of the stamp company and designers for providing products (exclusive or early release) and lots of them.

Anyway, I loved both cardmaking weekends. You and your team put on an extremely well run and fun event. And I because of that I've signed up for LST for the year, along with my local crafty group. One further note: Please encourage your designers for more masculine focused cards as I have a hard time with those.

My layout in this challenge thread uses the stamp set (it’s the first post):

2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/128272/day-1-28-challenges-2022

I’ve only used the stamps thus far.