seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Apr 25, 2022 5:05:59 GMT
I’m also a teacher. The symptoms you are describing is causing all kinds of red flags for me pointing to sexual abuse.
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Post by candleangie on Apr 25, 2022 6:35:12 GMT
Report what you know to child protective services and let them make the determination.
Every training I’ve been through for mandatory reporters says if you have a suspicion, report it. You don’t have to KNOW something happened, you just have to have a concern.
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Post by malibou on Apr 25, 2022 6:39:46 GMT
I am not a teacher, but I know plenty of them, and have been on this board long enough that this feels all kinds of wrong. Something has changed in Susan's homelife, and I doubt it is a good change. I hope for her sake that you can do something to make it stop.
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muggins
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Post by muggins on Apr 25, 2022 9:36:49 GMT
Susan needs help. There’s not much of the school year left to find out what’s going on. I would document as much as you can and speak to the principal,
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Post by katlaw on Apr 25, 2022 9:55:50 GMT
Report what you know to child protective services and let them make the determination. Every training I’ve been through for mandatory reporters says if you have a suspicion, report it. You don’t have to KNOW something happened, you just have to have a concern. This. You probably spend more time with this little girl then anyone else in her life except her parents. If you have seen something that is worrying you it is important to report it. She needs help, whether it is abuse or something else going on she needs someone to help her. |
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Post by fridaycat on Apr 25, 2022 10:17:43 GMT
Lawyers in my district have advised, “You are a mandated reporter, not an investigator.” You have the red flags, let the professional investigators take it from there.
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on Apr 25, 2022 10:25:31 GMT
This is so sad... i hope it really is nothing serious for that poor girl...
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Post by SabrinaP on Apr 25, 2022 10:31:41 GMT
Report it. Just call and voice all your concerns. It’s not your job to investigate, but if you have that feeling, you must report.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 25, 2022 11:39:08 GMT
Have you discussed your concerns with the principal or social worker?
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Post by zuke on Apr 25, 2022 12:10:31 GMT
Have you spoken to the principal previously on this situation including about speaking to the mother? I used to work in a school and there were lots of incidents where the parents lied through their teeth.
Your description definitely sends up red flags. Be prepared that the principal may not see it your way. You should still follow your instinct.
That happened at our school. A child that normally had behavioral issues, actually got worse one day. The teacher that I worked with spoke to the principal and it was poo poo'd. The next day I happened to see the bottom of his back as he leaned forward. It was bruised. I immediately told the teacher and she brought him to the nurse. His entire back was purple! An ambulance was called as were the police. The police immediately went to his apartment and the mother's girlfriend was arrested within hours! She went straight to jail.
Had we waited because the principal didn't agree with us, a more severe outcome could have ensued.
I hope that your principal makes the right decision. Please come back on here to update us.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 25, 2022 12:27:32 GMT
No advice but I agree, something is really off with this situation. I'm glad you are going to step in and report this issue.
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Post by stormycat on Apr 25, 2022 12:32:50 GMT
I am a mandated reporter, and I would have already made a report. It’s your job to report suspicious concerns (they are highly suspicious) and CPS and the police to investigate.
Call today.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 25, 2022 14:19:04 GMT
The bathroom issues and behavior was enough for me say, report...
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Post by destined2bmom on Apr 25, 2022 15:12:00 GMT
I am not a teacher and I can see red flags. Report what you know to child protective services and let them make the determination. Every training I’ve been through for mandatory reporters says if you have a suspicion, report it. You don’t have to KNOW something happened, you just have to have a concern. Like she said Report it to CPS. |
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Post by Merge on Apr 25, 2022 15:24:09 GMT
Make the report. Discuss with your principal, counselor, and anyone else who may have insight, but ultimately, you have to make the report.
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huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Apr 25, 2022 15:48:17 GMT
I would start with a counselor.
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Post by kelly8875 on Apr 25, 2022 15:51:54 GMT
Make the report. Discuss with your principal, counselor, and anyone else who may have insight, but ultimately, you have to make the report. This. That poor little girl. |
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Post by pinklady on Apr 25, 2022 17:53:28 GMT
Lawyers in my district have advised, “You are a mandated reporter, not an investigator.” You have the red flags, let the professional investigators take it from there. Absolutely this! |
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 25, 2022 18:38:47 GMT
I've seen some horrific abuse cases in my career and sometimes wondered why someone didn't say something earlier. While this could possibly be explained as something else (not sure what though), it points to something that could be much worse. I have seen parents who come off as the sweetest parents who let their partner abuse their child. You just really never, ever know. Call.
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Post by kkrenn on Apr 25, 2022 19:05:43 GMT
Please report, this poor girl needs a voice louder than her own.
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Post by Mel on Apr 25, 2022 19:38:44 GMT
I agree with the others, call child protective services. From the reactions of Mom, I wonder if she is in denial.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 25, 2022 21:11:59 GMT
I agree with everyone else. You need to call CPS. Hopefully it is nothing, but better safe then sorry. Something is clearly going on with her.
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Post by shamrock on Apr 25, 2022 21:17:25 GMT
I’m in the you are a mandated reporter and this is a case to make the report.
I know you’ve said you’ve talked to her parent and that’s good. Have you talked with your principal or school counselor? Have you talked with the boys’ parent about the change in his behavior?
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Post by Jen in NCal on Apr 25, 2022 21:20:43 GMT
Please don't let your principal talk you out of it or tell you they will take care of it. I know my principal wouldn't do this but some will call the parents about it first, putting the child in more danger.
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Post by papersilly on Apr 25, 2022 21:34:26 GMT
say something. report it.
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Post by CeeScraps on Apr 25, 2022 22:17:03 GMT
Lawyers in my district have advised, “You are a mandated reporter, not an investigator.” You have the red flags, let the professional investigators take it from there. This.......you are a mandated reporter. You must report this. They will figure the rest of it out. |
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 25, 2022 22:36:02 GMT
Hoping you reported it today. Even if you tell the principal/counselor, you are still mandated to make the report yourself.
There are both legal and ethical ramifications for you and who knows what for the child.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 25, 2022 22:44:18 GMT
Report ASAP
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Apr 26, 2022 1:46:42 GMT
OP- did you report? Did you talk with the principal? Hopefully it’s nothing but if it is, she needs to be helped.
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Post by cycworker on Apr 26, 2022 2:48:47 GMT
I am a child & youth care worker, so another mandated reporter. The poster who said you're not an investigator is correct. File the report & let them investigate
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