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Post by Katiepotatie on Apr 30, 2022 9:29:35 GMT
I binge watched the last episodes Friday. I enjoyed seeing a few characters from earlier in the show. I love that everything was tiring out so well for Ruth, until, of course, it didn’t. How appropriate that she’d be fearless in white.
In the car accident I was hoping Wendy wouldn’t make it.
Navarro’s sister was just straight-up EVIL. AND John-Boy (Richard Thomas) as Wendy’s dad (can’t remember if he was in earlier episodes) was brilliant.
Still processing how it all came together in the end for the family. I’d love a lol at them 5-10 years down the line.
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on May 1, 2022 15:03:11 GMT
I loved Ozark but this ending left me a little angry. I wanted different people dead and Ruth to be successful. Was pretty bummed.
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Post by scrapmaven on May 1, 2022 15:21:14 GMT
Ruth was finally heading twd happiness. I wish her ending had been happy. Though I loved the fact that she was truly authentic up until the very end.
Marty and Wendy are delusional. You don't just walk away from the cartel, even w/the FBI's help. Wendy is an awful person, yet I wanted to see them all get out alive. Dunno why. I'm glad that they showed us Ben's ending. That was always a question. Look what they've done to their children? EEK! I'm gonna miss this show. It was soooo good and I thought the final half season was brilliant.
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 3, 2022 4:31:04 GMT
We just finished it. So sad about Ruth.
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Post by Katiepotatie on May 3, 2022 8:04:31 GMT
I was really hoping for Ruth’s happy-ever-after ending. But I’m realizing that just couldn’t happen on this show. Had she lived, the show would’ve been slammed for trying to wrap it up all nice and neat when the show never was that way. Yes, she stayed true to her character through and through. Go, Ruth!
Also glad we got to see Ben’s ending.
Such a great show!
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Post by disneypal on May 3, 2022 8:38:39 GMT
I had a feeling about Ruth’s ending, because things were starting to turn around for the good…I just knew it was too good.
I was glad to see the rest of Ben’s story. I am glad Wendy survived the crash, but at the same time kind hope hoped she didn’t.
Loved Richard Thomas.
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on May 3, 2022 14:58:05 GMT
I had a feeling about Ruth’s ending, because things were starting to turn around for the good…I just knew it was too good. I was glad to see the rest of Ben’s story. I am glad Wendy survived the crash, but at the same time kind hope hoped she didn’t. Loved Richard Thomas. If they would have killed off Wendy, I would have been ok with Ruth’s death. It would have balanced it a bit. But, I am more blood thirsty - I wanted Wendy to take a bullet between the eyes so she could see it coming. I disliked her that much. The Byrde’s went to the ozarks and destroyed all these lives (Ruth, her entire family, the dude who got baptized at the end, the PI) but had no consequences for their actions. |
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Post by disneypal on May 3, 2022 15:04:59 GMT
The Byrde’s went to the ozarks and destroyed all these lives So true! I would have been okay if Wendy was killed off too. |
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Post by fridaycat on May 4, 2022 0:58:33 GMT
But was it the private eye who Jonah shot, or did Jonah shoot Wendy?
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on May 4, 2022 1:26:18 GMT
But was it the private eye who Jonah shot, or did Jonah shoot Wendy? I assumed the PI but I feel like it was left sopranos like to get people talking. |
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Post by Katiepotatie on May 5, 2022 9:13:22 GMT
But was it the private eye who Jonah shot, or did Jonah shoot Wendy? Ooooo!!! I hadn’t thought of that. I’ll have to rewatch the ending. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 5, 2022 13:36:26 GMT
But was it the private eye who Jonah shot, or did Jonah shoot Wendy? Ooooo!!! I hadn’t thought of that. I’ll have to rewatch the ending. The ending won't tell you anything. I watched a video where a guy gave an overview of the last episode. He thinks Jonah shot the PI. |
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Post by christinec68 on May 5, 2022 15:24:19 GMT
I think Jonah shot the PI.
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Post by scrapmaven on May 5, 2022 15:33:37 GMT
Jonah shot the PI. In interviews w/the writers and producers they specifically said that they were giving the Byrdes a happyish ending. They were sending them back to Chicago to go on w/their lives, so to speak. Of course, the Byrdes don't seem to care that they were responsible for destroying an entire town and the murders of several people. They orphaned a baby and let Darlene raise it. Anyone remember the famous, "I could just strangle you" feeding scene? EEK!
Did ya'll watch the episode after the finale where they interviewed the cast? That was interesting.
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Post by essiejean on May 5, 2022 15:39:28 GMT
I was glad to see the rest of Ben’s story. I'm confused and perhaps I missed something in one of the last episodes. But how did they "show" the rest of Ben's story? |
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Post by disneypal on May 5, 2022 16:29:04 GMT
I was glad to see the rest of Ben’s story. I'm confused and perhaps I missed something in one of the last episodes. But how did they "show" the rest of Ben's story? Yes...I guess you can say so....in the previous season, we saw Ben leaving the building and Wendy knew (and of course we knew) he was going to be killed (which Wendy set up) but we never saw what happened to him...just him leaving the restaurant to go outside and look for her. We sort of knew he was killed but didn't know the details.
This season, we found out that he confronted Nelson in the parking lot and then promise not to say anything about Helen..then we saw Ben telling Nelson to tell Wendy he was sorry because she was the only one who really loved him and he wanted her to be proud of him. We saw that Nelson took him out in the woods somewhere, made him get on a tarp and then shot him, as Ben was thinking out loud if he was dreaming this whole thing.
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Post by essiejean on May 5, 2022 16:58:24 GMT
Thanks! I missed that whole sequence. Need to go back and watch again.
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Post by huskergal on May 5, 2022 18:10:03 GMT
Absolutely Jonah shot the P.I. The kids are following in their parents' footsteps.
And I am sorry, if you are in a car accident like that, you are getting beat up. You might not get severely injured, but there will definitely be bruises and aches and pains.
They needed a few more episodes. Too much happened to fast. Navarro's assassination. All these bigwigs joining the Byrdes.
Once I saw Ruth with the white dress, I knew she was toast. I was hoping Three would come out and blast Navarro's sister so at least Ruth is avenged.
I didn't hate the ending, but like Game of Thrones, it was wrapped up too quickly.
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Post by disneypal on May 5, 2022 18:29:20 GMT
And I am sorry, if you are in a car accident like that, you are getting beat up. You might not get severely injured, but there will definitely be bruises and aches and pains. Ha Ha - I said the same thing. I was in a terrible crash several years ago, even though buckled in, my head went through the side window and required staples. I was bruised completed on 1/2 of my body from head to toe and it stayed bruised for weeks...I had a broken arm. You are still going to get banged up and be in a bit of misery, even if you don't have any major injuries. They just basically got out and walked away. Once I saw Ruth with the white dress, I knew she was toast. I thought the very same - I also was hoping someone would come out and shoot Navarro's sister before Ruth got it. Poor Ruth, the Byrd's ruin her life and took everything and everyone from her. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 5, 2022 19:45:32 GMT
And I am sorry, if you are in a car accident like that, you are getting beat up. You might not get severely injured, but there will definitely be bruises and aches and pains. My son and his friends were in Vegas for a bachelor weekend and were riding a van back to the strip after enjoying an adventure out in the desert. The van blew a tire and flipped over 4 or 5 times after going down an embankment. The van landed on the roof which was completely crushed. DS and the groom had the most serious injuries. DS had 35 stiches on his arm where he had serious cuts. Several of the other groomsmen walked away without a scratch. At least physically. So it is possible. Thankfully I didn't see this picture until after he arrived home several days later.  |
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Post by busy on May 5, 2022 19:51:36 GMT
But was it the private eye who Jonah shot, or did Jonah shoot Wendy? The private eye - you could hear the cookie jar he had breaking with the shot. |
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Post by peabay on May 7, 2022 15:47:41 GMT
I binged on the whole series in the last few months so I was so, so sick of the characters - all of them - and wished someone bombed the Missouri Belle so they all died.
However, I loved the ending. I loved how during the whole show you would feel sorry for someone and two seconds later hate their guts. So, for me, the ending was "oh, good, the family stays together" and then you think "oh, but they are so awful!" And I really liked Wendy's last line: "since when?" So, so, so true. I kept thinking the whole time "well, they can't end up winning".... but quite often in this world, the bad do.
Tremendous acting in this series. I wish Tom Pelphrey got more attention for playing Ben. I thought he was absolutely outstanding.
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Post by scrapmaven on May 7, 2022 16:05:59 GMT
cadoodlebug , that photo is jarring. You must have lost your breath when you saw that picture. Thank G-d everyone is OK. peabay , the acting is phenomenal. I rooted for the Byrdes and then hated myself for doing so. They are such horrible people, but the goal of the series was to give them a happy ending. Too bad they'll all end up in hell. Ruth was a great character. I can see why Julia Garner won emmys.
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Post by lily on May 11, 2022 13:11:39 GMT
Just finished last night. OMG I wanted Wendy to be shot between the eyes too! She was the evil one. Marty was just sucked into all of it in the very beginning and struggled the entire time to wade thru the muck that Wendy made!
So I wonder who gets all Ruths money now. Maybe 3 will get it, continue building the house and live there.
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Post by Flowergirl on May 11, 2022 13:33:03 GMT
I thought the very same - I also was hoping someone would come out and shoot Navarro's sister before Ruth got it. Poor Ruth, the Byrd's ruin her life and took everything and everyone from her. The Byrds certainly didn’t help her—I’m not defending them at all, but her father had her grifting as his accomplice since she was 3. Almost her entire family was up to something. She encountered the Byrds when she was caught up in her family’s plan to take the money they brought to launder way back is season 1. She’s a victim of the Byrds and her family circumstances. |
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Post by peabay on May 11, 2022 13:34:35 GMT
Just finished last night. OMG I wanted Wendy to be shot between the eyes too! She was the evil one. Marty was just sucked into all of it in the very beginning and struggled the entire time to wade thru the muck that Wendy made! So I wonder who gets all Ruths money now. Maybe 3 will get it, continue building the house and live there. I don't love that people think Marty was somehow innocent. He was not at all. As Wendy always accused him of, he always wanted to be the nice guy, but he lied and cheated his way through it too! Yes, she was Lady Macbeth to his Macbeth for sure (and was worse - absolutely), but he was not just suckered along by her. |
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Post by busy on May 11, 2022 13:38:49 GMT
Just finished last night. OMG I wanted Wendy to be shot between the eyes too! She was the evil one. Marty was just sucked into all of it in the very beginning and struggled the entire time to wade thru the muck that Wendy made! So I wonder who gets all Ruths money now. Maybe 3 will get it, continue building the house and live there. I don't love that people think Marty was somehow innocent. He was not at all. As Wendy always accused him of, he always wanted to be the nice guy, but he lied and cheated his way through it too! Yes, she was Lady Macbeth to his Macbeth for sure (and was worse - absolutely), but he was not just suckered along by her. For sure. Wendy was the most cutthroat and heartless but Marty was plenty complicit and it all started because of him. He was fine with other people doing what had to be done to protect his interests, he just didn’t want to explicitly endorse it so he could lie to himself about who he was. Wendy didn’t care; she was pulled into it and decided to do whatever necessary to survive and secure their futures. |
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Post by lily on May 11, 2022 13:55:53 GMT
I don't love that people think Marty was somehow innocent. He was not at all. As Wendy always accused him of, he always wanted to be the nice guy, but he lied and cheated his way through it too! Yes, she was Lady Macbeth to his Macbeth for sure (and was worse - absolutely), but he was not just suckered along by her. For sure. Wendy was the most cutthroat and heartless but Marty was plenty complicit and it all started because of him. He was fine with other people doing what had to be done to protect his interests, he just didn’t want to explicitly endorse it so he could lie to himself about who he was. Wendy didn’t care; she was pulled into it and decided to do whatever necessary to survive and secure their futures. Yeah but Marty only got involved because his partner was doing it and got killed so the cartel said "well guess what Marty - you have to take over". And once the cartel has its claws in you, it is hard to get back out. |
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Post by peabay on May 11, 2022 14:18:33 GMT
For sure. Wendy was the most cutthroat and heartless but Marty was plenty complicit and it all started because of him. He was fine with other people doing what had to be done to protect his interests, he just didn’t want to explicitly endorse it so he could lie to himself about who he was. Wendy didn’t care; she was pulled into it and decided to do whatever necessary to survive and secure their futures. Yeah but Marty only got involved because his partner was doing it and got killed so the cartel said "well guess what Marty - you have to take over". And once the cartel has its claws in you, it is hard to get back out. Yeah....but his behavior with the riverboat (working that poor man behind Wendy's back) was pretty bad; his manipulations of Rachel were pretty awful; his manipulations of Maya, the FBI agent, were pretty awful. How he stole the strip club was not good either. He was not a good person - he just wanted to look like a good person. |
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Post by scrapmaven on May 11, 2022 15:27:37 GMT
Marty did make a conscious choice to launder money. He didn't say "no" when his partner got into it. Wendy sort of took over and became increasingly evil. That they dragged their children into it makes them both awful for other reasons. I hoped that the money would be split btwn Rachel and Three. They both got the raw end of the stick. Marty destroyed Rachel's life. I still think the most evil thing was to give an innocent baby to a psychopath like Darlene. Oh, killing your own brother is also pretty awful. Wendy was possibly the most evil character on the show. She killed her own brother. How is that any different than what Camila did? Though Ben was far from evil, as opposed to Navarro.
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