mimima
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Post by mimima on Oct 28, 2022 21:44:01 GMT
Lord have Mercy. How scary
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 28, 2022 21:51:24 GMT
but reports are that a far-right intruder Yeah, of course it is. Absolutely jump there without any evidence as fast as you possibly can. Never mind that reporters were robbed right in front of this same Pelosi home just a few months ago and were ignored when they openly tried to warn Pelosi that her very select street had become dangerous. Nope. It can't have anything to do with the state of the city, with it's rampant crime living in the open on its main streets. Don't you ever get tired of acting like a toddler on the playground?
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maryannscraps
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Post by maryannscraps on Oct 28, 2022 22:17:31 GMT
How awful. He’s in surgery to repair a skull fracture according to the WP.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 28, 2022 22:27:12 GMT
the police, at their first press conference, noted the names of the officers and the name of the dispatcher.. praising their efforts to respond to pelosi call. I was listening on radio and didn't know why.. but that is clearer why..
that neighborhood is generally safe. not crime free.. it can happen anywhere, but I would say rare to have a home invasion.. and the noisy neighbors know who their neighbor is and call in anything they see. I would stand of that block day and night any time by myself. I'm sure there has been security training for paul.. and they had a physical security plan, if not people standing there 24-7.
so all the commentators making it about "crime in SF".. don't know what they are talking about. most of our crime is car break ins and stolen stuff.. including catalytic converters.
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 28, 2022 22:32:45 GMT
the police, at their first press conference, noted the names of the officers and the name of the dispatcher.. praising their efforts to respond to pelosi call. I was listening on radio and didn't know why.. but that is clearer why.. that neighborhood is generally safe. not crime free.. it can happen anywhere, but I would say rare to have a home invasion.. and the noisy neighbors know who their neighbor is and call in anything they see. I would stand of that block day and night any time by myself. I'm sure there has been security training for paul.. and they had a physical security plan, if not people standing there 24-7. so all the commentators making it about "crime in SF".. don't know what they are talking about. most of our crime is car break ins and stolen stuff.. including catalytic converters. Yeah, I didn't want to even touch that part because talking about the actual crime levels in SF falls on deaf ears for some people, but until August I lived for a year in an apartment two blocks from Golden Gate Park, by myself, as a fairly small woman, and went everywhere on foot or bus at all times of day and night without a single issue of any kind. From some media sources, you would never know that violent crime in SF is ... down.
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Post by elaine on Oct 28, 2022 22:39:42 GMT
but reports are that a far-right intruder Yeah, of course it is. Absolutely jump there without any evidence as fast as you possibly can. Never mind that reporters were robbed right in front of this same Pelosi home just a few months ago and were ignored when they openly tried to warn Pelosi that her very select street had become dangerous. Nope. It can't have anything to do with the state of the city, with it's rampant crime living in the open on its main streets. Waiting for your thoughts and prayers, followed shortly by your “I am sorry, I should have googled the details before shooting my mouth off.” Because good Christians send up thoughts and prayers for anyone attacked by a lunatic with a hammer, right? Or are those prayers only reserved by people with an “R” behind their names. Because, you know, Jesus said so in the New Testament... 🤮 Was that during the sermon on the mount? .... You feel free to jump right in with the chapter and verse, okay? (hint: Jesus weeps when he looks down on what the GOP has done to sow hate and violence in this country)
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 28, 2022 22:47:20 GMT
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PLurker
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Post by PLurker on Oct 28, 2022 23:38:03 GMT
Before even reading comments, I'll bet I'm not the only one who thinks tfg emboldened some whack a doodle.
Turns out, although I hate to jump to conclusions, it seems I wasn't far off base. He sucks. Tfg and intruder lock them the fuq up.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 28, 2022 23:40:46 GMT
It's horrific. It looks like he will make a recovery, but he will probably be haunted by this for the rest of his life. Poor man. I'm scared for this country. I just don't see how we can recover from the divisiveness.
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Post by katiekaty on Oct 29, 2022 2:34:57 GMT
OK, I am going to clarify my point. I absolutely do not care who is president! Ms. Pelosi has been Secretary of State for more than a minute. As second in line for the presidency her safety is extremely important. She has her own government provided security detail.I understand how the protocols are laid ast who gets a security detail. I think the spouse and any child under the age of majority should have been provided a security detail also since she is second in line.but that’s not how it’s laid out. Ok. So having security in the home is one thing, and I am guessing that’s cameras, alarms and maybe panick button and drive by security company. But please, considering who he is married, hire a 24/7 private security for his safety and fund it from their private wealth.
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 29, 2022 2:43:18 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 29, 2022 2:49:13 GMT
OK, I am going to clarify my point. I absolutely do not care who is president! Ms. Pelosi has been Secretary of State for more than a minute. As second in line for the presidency her safety is extremely important. She has her own government provided security detail.I understand how the protocols are laid ast who gets a security detail. I think the spouse and any child under the age of majority should have been provided a security detail also since she is second in line.but that’s not how it’s laid out. Ok. So having security in the home is one thing, and I am guessing that’s cameras, alarms and maybe panick button and drive by security company. But please, considering who he is married, hire a 24/7 private security for his safety and fund it from their private wealth. The last 5 years has changed how people live their lives, including our public figures. I am sure the Pelosis as well as others will review and probably change their lifestyles and protections. Truthfully I think many of us have, not necessarily as drastically as public figures. BTW: Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House of Representatives. Who is president has certainly had bearing on our safety. All of our safety!
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 29, 2022 2:54:55 GMT
OK, I am going to clarify my point. I absolutely do not care who is president! Ms. Pelosi has been Secretary of State for more than a minute. As second in line for the presidency her safety is extremely important. She has her own government provided security detail.I understand how the protocols are laid ast who gets a security detail. I think the spouse and any child under the age of majority should have been provided a security detail also since she is second in line.but that’s not how it’s laid out. Ok. So having security in the home is one thing, and I am guessing that’s cameras, alarms and maybe panick button and drive by security company. But please, considering who he is married, hire a 24/7 private security for his safety and fund it from their private wealth. She’s not Secretary of State. She’s a Congress woman and the speaker of the House. You have no idea what kind of security they do or do not have. Neither do I. It would be stupid for them to make their security arrangements public. Even if they have security personnel it’s unlikely they would have a 24-7 presence at their home. The only people to blame for this are the person who attacked her husband and the people who continue to encourage this sort of behavior.
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Post by sideways on Oct 29, 2022 3:02:15 GMT
Yeah, of course it is. Absolutely jump there without any evidence as fast as you possibly can. Never mind that reporters were robbed right in front of this same Pelosi home just a few months ago and were ignored when they openly tried to warn Pelosi that her very select street had become dangerous. Nope. It can't have anything to do with the state of the city, with it's rampant crime living in the open on its main streets. Turn off fox news and you might actually see the evidence. The suspect in the attack of Paul Pelosi has been confirmed to be a 42-year-old right-wing extremist who spread 2020 election conspiracy theories, COVID disinformation, and hatred of the Jan 6 committee. Are you going to backtrack on your shit post and own up to how dangerous "your side" is or are you going to dig in and go the fox news route.
Of course she’s not. She won’t be back to this thread. She’ll pretend this never happened and won’t give it another thought. She’s as deplorable as the rest of the MAGA cult.
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nursema
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Post by nursema on Oct 29, 2022 4:33:55 GMT
No amount of time, energy or reason will be enough to reach those who are hellbent on rejecting facts that are staring them straight in the face.
Who wants to tell them that when this ship sinks, they’ll be shoved out of the lifeboats like the rest of us?
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 29, 2022 5:59:05 GMT
I'm horrified and hope he makes a quick recovery. A skull fracture for an 82 year old sounds really serious. The Republican response is absolutely despicable. Instead of condemning the violence, some of them are trying to blame Democrats for political violence that they themselves incited. Remember McCarthy bragging about about hitting Nancy Pelosi with a gavel? Lindsey Graham threatening riots if Trump gets indicted? Ron DeSantis threatening to chuck Dr Fauci across the Potomac (he referred to him as a little elf). A man was arrested for threatening to kill Rep Pramila Jayapal. Threats against elected officials have increased tenfold since 2016 www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/us/politics/violent-threats-lawmakers.htmlIt's long past time for Republican politicians to step up, do the right thing and condemn the violence
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 29, 2022 9:13:48 GMT
aj2hallYes I posted this on the today's thread yesterday..
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 29, 2022 13:25:12 GMT
Which republicans have expressed concern for Mr Pelosi? All I have seen is even more divisive rhetoric and lack of accountability for their actions and that of their party.
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Post by mom on Oct 29, 2022 13:40:23 GMT
Im just hearing about this. Wow! How scary! Im glad he is ok and that he was able to get help without the intruder knowing.
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Post by elaine on Oct 29, 2022 14:03:53 GMT
aj2hall Yes I posted this on the today's thread yesterday.. Youngkin, my governor, is a complete ass. Consistently an ass. And yes, the GOP apparently have no issue with lunatics with hammers attacking democrats. They can't even manage socially appropriate platitudes anymore.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 29, 2022 14:17:21 GMT
Which republicans have expressed concern for Mr Pelosi? All I have seen is even more divisive rhetoric and lack of accountability for their actions and that of their party. A select few - McConnell, Kinzinger, Scalise & Pence The last 3 have been threatened personally. Scalise was shot & injured at a baseball game. www.npr.org/2022/10/28/1132191901/nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-attack
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 29, 2022 14:23:02 GMT
Sadly, his response is the exception
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 29, 2022 14:26:07 GMT
Which republicans have expressed concern for Mr Pelosi? All I have seen is even more divisive rhetoric and lack of accountability for their actions and that of their party. A select few - McConnell, Kinzinger, Scalise & Pence The last 3 have been threatened personally. Scalise was shot & injured at a baseball game. www.npr.org/2022/10/28/1132191901/nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-attackThat's good that there have been a few, I guess. The ones I saw were either said several hours later said in a way that created more division, or out and out disgusting, like Kari Lake. Tweets from their supporters in response to these posts were also pretty gross.
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Post by katiekaty on Oct 29, 2022 14:27:41 GMT
Sorry, I meant speaker of the house!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 15:13:39 GMT
All of this continued hatred and violence is so damn depressing. Do people really hate other humans this much? How is this any form of Christianity?
But the saddest part is that some people revel in this deep hatred of others. What a sad way to live.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 29, 2022 15:44:39 GMT
OK, I am going to clarify my point. I absolutely do not care who is president! Ms. Pelosi has been Secretary of State for more than a minute. As second in line for the presidency her safety is extremely important. She has her own government provided security detail.I understand how the protocols are laid ast who gets a security detail. I think the spouse and any child under the age of majority should have been provided a security detail also since she is second in line.but that’s not how it’s laid out. Ok. So having security in the home is one thing, and I am guessing that’s cameras, alarms and maybe panick button and drive by security company. But please, considering who he is married, hire a 24/7 private security for his safety and fund it from their private wealth. In the current climate, with the current crazies, sadly, I think that you are right. There are probably more violent, unhinged people out there who would try the same thing.
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 29, 2022 15:45:49 GMT
Sadly, his response is the exception And his party did everything they could to make sure he's out of office and persona non grata, because he's one of the few who stand up to the bullshit.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 29, 2022 15:49:04 GMT
That's good that there have been a few, I guess. The ones I saw were either said several hours later said in a way that created more division, or out and out disgusting, like Kari Lake. Tweets from their supporters in response to these posts were also pretty gross. Mitt Romney and one of the minor republicans from my state also did via Twitter - I'm sure there were others that most consider RINOs. The assholes get the press unfortunately, and there are no shortage of people wanting to double down on ugliness right now. Best wishes for a full recovery for Mr. Pelosi
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 29, 2022 16:14:39 GMT
That's good that there have been a few, I guess. The ones I saw were either said several hours later said in a way that created more division, or out and out disgusting, like Kari Lake. Tweets from their supporters in response to these posts were also pretty gross. Mitt Romney and one of the minor republicans from my state also did via Twitter - I'm sure there were others that most consider RINOs. The assholes get the press unfortunately, and there are no shortage of people wanting to double down on ugliness right now. Best wishes for a full recovery for Mr. Pelosi Surprisingly, Ted Cruz condemned the violence. Cheney did as well The assholes get the press, but the assholes outnumber and dominate the few Republicans with ethics and integrity like Cheney and Kinzinger who have been pushed out of the party. Republicans have become the party of the assholes like Kari Lake and MTG. And the attack was after years of the Republicans demonizing Nancy Pelosi. A super pac is currently running an ad against our Democratic senator in NH about firing Pelosi. Republicans have been targeting her, trying to fire her for more than 10 years. Republicans falsely blamed her for the Jan 6 insurrection. And they failed to condemn the insurrectionists who wanted to harm her. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/29/paul-pelosi-attack-republicans-target/For a wide swath of Republicans, Pelosi is Enemy No. 1 — a target of the collective rage, conspiratorial thinking and overt misogyny that have marked the party’s hard-right turn in recent years.
But the threats against Pelosi have often been particularly ferocious and date back more than a decade, when Republicans worked to make her one of the faces of former president Barack Obama’s health-care law.
Greene liked a Facebook comment that said “a bullet to the head would be quicker” as a way of removing Pelosi as speaker, CNN found. And in a video of a speech Greene gave promoting a 2019 petition she’d launched to impeach Pelosi for “crimes of treason,” Greene calls Pelosi “a traitor to our country” and says the speaker could be executed for treason.
“It’s a crime punishable by death — is what treason is,” Greene says in the video, according to CNN. “Nancy Pelosi is guilty of treason.”
In February, a Republican vying for his party’s Senate nomination in Arizona to run against Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly released a Western-themed ad that featured himself dressed as a sheriff shooting at actors playing President Biden, Kelly and Pelosi. A caption dubs the speaker “Crazy Face Pelosi” before the Republican candidate announces, “The good people of Arizona have had enough of you” and begins shooting at the trio of Democrats.
In several tweets Friday, Mike Loychik, an Ohio Republican state representative, called political violence “unacceptable” and said he hoped Paul Pelosi made a full recovery, but he also took a swipe at the calls from some liberal lawmakers to “Defund the police.”
“I hope San Francisco dispatched their very best social worker to respond to the brutal assault of Nancy Pelosi’s husband,” he wrote.
While campaigning Friday for a House candidate in Virginia, Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R-Va.) quipped, “There’s no room for violence anywhere, but we’re going to send her back to be with him in California.” And Friday afternoon, Ronna McDaniel, chair of the Republican National Committee, attacked the speaker at an event for Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance: “Are you ready to fire Nancy Pelosi?”
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Post by MichyM on Oct 29, 2022 18:50:34 GMT
Info is coming out. Mr Pelosi called 911 on his cell phone.. left the line open . New information is coming to light on how Paul Pelosi alerted San Francisco police about a break-in by allegedly committed by David Depape. CNN's John Berman interviewed law enforcement analyst John Miller about "remarkable new details" on how events unfolded. "So this starts to unfold at some point in the early morning hours, when the defendant, who is charged here, gets in the house and encounters Mr. Pelosi," Miller reported. And Mr. Pelosi can tell, this guy is unhinged, this is going bad," he explained. "So how he gets on his cell phone and dials 911 surreptitiously and he leaves that line open. It may be in his pocket, may be on the table, but at that point, Heather Grimes, an emergency dispatcher -- this happens all the time, there's no voice on the other end of it, sometimes you disconnect, but she's sensing something, there's a conversation going on in the background, she's sensing something isn't right, so she listens in, turns up the volume and Paul Pelosi is basically trying to tell her in code what's going on. 'Why are you here? What are you going to do to me?'" You can imagine how he's trying to not let the attacker know that 911 is listening," Miller said. "So she puts out a priority one wellness call." www.rawstory.com/paul-pelosi-2658566542/Good thinking/instincts for that dispatcher. Probably saved his life. And also good for him. I'm not sure I'd have the wherewithal to call 911 in the midst of trying to ward of a hammer wielding intruder!
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