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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 6, 2023 22:03:09 GMT
I'm not sure if I am using the term "doxing" correctly here...
Lately I have been seeing lots of posts on Tik Tok where someone did something offensive and people are trying to find out who they are in order to shame them. People call for them to be fired, kicked out of college, and basically for their lives to be ruined based on this one behavior. For example, the other day the post was of a woman going off on another woman because she was sitting in her car in a full parking lot. The woman was definitely rude and disrespectful, but in reality what should be the consequence for that? Should she really be fired, publicly shamed, and so on? What are your thoughts?
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Post by iluvpink on Mar 6, 2023 22:08:14 GMT
I saw that. The woman was extremely rude. But I do not know about being fired, life ruined. That said, publicly shamed....probably not, but I wouldn't feel too bad for her either honestly.
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Post by lindas on Mar 6, 2023 22:09:41 GMT
I think social media has caused people to totally lose their minds.
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Post by Merge on Mar 6, 2023 22:11:21 GMT
IDK. I think in this day and age, it’s good for all of us to remember that there is no privacy anywhere except in your own home while not online. Everything we do or say can come back to bite us and every person around you has a recording device in their pocket.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 6, 2023 22:35:32 GMT
Part of me doesn't really feel that bad for the woman in that video in particular because she is probably a nasty person in general if she was acting like that, especially knowing someone was recording her. However, I know that something like that could really make things worse for people in a lot of ways. There are some situations like this where the behavior is documented. However, I just saw a Tik Tok where someone claimed a youth pastor molested her (and she showed the persons picture). Again, if It happened I don't really feel bad for the perpetrator. But I think there are other ways of going about reporting that and it could not be true at all. What do you think will happen to that person now that the allegation has been made publicly? It's really a slippery slope, IMO.
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 6, 2023 22:47:06 GMT
I am all for a good doxxing when it comes to people racially abusing others, or when they've potentially put someone's life at risk (like the woman who called the cops on the guy in the park, just minding his own business).
The situation you described is not worth a doxxing, IMO.
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Post by mom on Mar 6, 2023 22:57:18 GMT
I don't guess Ive seen the video --- she was just sitting in her car, in a full parking lot? And someone was pissed that she didn't immediately give up her parking spot?
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Post by myshelly on Mar 6, 2023 23:03:02 GMT
I don't guess Ive seen the video --- she was just sitting in her car, in a full parking lot? And someone was pissed that she didn't immediately give up her parking spot? If it’s the same video I’ve seen, the woman is sitting in the parking lot of a medical complex type building and had just gotten out of a counseling appointment. She was sitting in her car for a minute before moving and a woman comes up knocks on her window and starts bitching her out for sitting in the car. The woman calls her a “fat ass” and numerous other insults.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 6, 2023 23:18:20 GMT
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Post by gar on Mar 6, 2023 23:23:10 GMT
Should people be fired/publicly shamed etc? No of course not. We only ever see one side of the story and even when things seem definitive who knows what extenuating circumstances there ‘could’ be. We are not judges, jury and executioners.
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Post by mom on Mar 6, 2023 23:25:07 GMT
Oh wow. That lady was something else.
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Post by don on Mar 6, 2023 23:37:55 GMT
I just don't like all the anger and spitefulness in our country these days. I still say it boiled up during Trumps 2016 run for President, and boiled over all through his time in office. It may be my imagination, but I think it starting change back a little. Hopefully the next administration will get us back to civility.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 7, 2023 0:10:21 GMT
I've come out from appointments and sat in the car processing everything I had just been told or even calling home or calling to make a future appointment..
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Post by moodyblue on Mar 7, 2023 0:16:22 GMT
I've come out from appointments and sat in the car processing everything I had just been told or even calling home or calling to make a future appointment.. Exactly. There are a ton of reasons why someone might not be in a state to drive immediately, especially after any kind of medical appointment.
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Post by pinklady on Mar 7, 2023 0:30:18 GMT
Actions have consequences 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by Restless Spirit on Mar 7, 2023 0:40:10 GMT
I've come out from appointments and sat in the car processing everything I had just been told or even calling home or calling to make a future appointment.. This. I just had this happen after a doctors appointment last week. I needed time to process what he has just told me. I just sat there. I was so distracted that it would not have been wise to start driving.
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Post by scrappinmama on Mar 7, 2023 0:43:33 GMT
That woman was vile. It makes me uncomfortable to see this happening, because I wonder where the line will be drawn? Part of me realizes that someone can disagree with what I say on this board and doxx me. I know this has happened to peas in the past, and in my opinion that really crosses a line. But on the other hand, the videos that have been going viral are often people who are being racists and/or complete animals in public. If you don't want to have your life blown up on social media, don't act like a complete asshole.
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Post by katlady on Mar 7, 2023 1:04:51 GMT
Wow! That lady is really rude!! But, I don’t believe in doxxing her for this. If she made threats, then it would be a different story.
Something similar happened to a friend. She got to an appointment early and was sitting in her car. A lady drove up beside her and told her she either had to get out of her car or give up the parking spot. According to this women, it was illegal to just sit in her car. My friend rolled her window back up and ignored the women.
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Post by mimima on Mar 7, 2023 1:24:19 GMT
No matter how awful the person's behavior is, harassing someone in person is wayyyyyy beyond the pale.
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 7, 2023 2:24:18 GMT
I am personally a big proponent of public shaming and shunning. I love it when people show everyone who they are…and it is recorded and exposed.
As far as being fired, that is up to the employer who sees it. If you owned a business and that woman worked for you, would you think she would be a great co-worker or representative for your business. As a business owner I wouldn't want her skanky ass representing me and mine.
I also think most people are very forgiving of someone who screws up but realizes it and gives a heartfelt apology instead of doubling down and justifying their behavior. Most of these types never apologize they just get worse because that is who they are. They get what they deserve. Fuck them.
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Post by finsup on Mar 7, 2023 3:18:03 GMT
She’s an a-hole but I do like her coat. 😄
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 4:27:48 GMT
I see so many of these outrage videos now and half of them are fake. Not saying this one was but it wouldn't surprise me. Most of this stuff should just be sorted out between the 2 idiots involved and I do think that woman getting out to argue with her is no better. The only videos like this that seem to have any value are recording cops assaulting people otherwise the rest of it is mostly bickering toddlers. Think I might need another coffee today
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 7, 2023 4:35:03 GMT
Wow! That lady is really rude!! But, I don’t believe in doxxing her for this. If she made threats, then it would be a different story. Something similar happened to a friend. She got to an appointment early and was sitting in her car. A lady drove up beside her and told her she either had to get out of her car or give up the parking spot. According to this women, it was illegal to just sit in her car. My friend rolled her window back up and ignored the women. Problem is if you are concerned that if you leave your car the person might come back a do damage. People are out of control these days.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Mar 7, 2023 4:45:28 GMT
Wow, that’s so rude. My fat ass would have stayed in that parking space for the rest of the night.
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 7, 2023 5:31:39 GMT
Honestly ... show your ass in public and you get what you deserve now.
Cameras are everywhere and people are recording.
And a lot times more good comes from this instead of bad.
The racist rants, the assholes who go and run the street vendors off with a bat and literally ruin all their stuff, the entitled asshole who throws a shake at a teenager for getting the order wrong. The fucker who was on camera with several road rage incidents in a Tesla where he was getting out and beating on the cars and windows (he was caught because of this type of crowd sourcing on TT and arrested). As the kids say these days ... fuck around and find out.
Don't want to be tracked down because of TT and be in fear of losing your job or being kicked out of school... stop being an asshole in public.
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Post by putabuttononit on Mar 7, 2023 7:02:47 GMT
I do not believe doxxing is ever appropriate. People are too crazy these days- doxxing could get someone assaulted or murdered.
My adult niece, who I’m very close to, did something shocking to me. I had shared something on Facebook she disagreed with (apparently) and without ever stating her opinion or anything, she suddenly doxxed me by posting some (publicly available) personal financial information. I was literally stunned. Hurt. Dismayed. But I decided to delete the entire post (in case she regretted it) and decided never to mention it. (I hate extra drama). It was a little hard to get over, tbh, but she’s 25 and impulsive. She’s never mentioned it again either and our relationship is fine. I’m over it now. I still can’t imagine doing that to anyone I love. She probably does regret it.
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Post by monklady123 on Mar 7, 2023 10:54:38 GMT
Wow! That lady is really rude!! But, I don’t believe in doxxing her for this. If she made threats, then it would be a different story. Something similar happened to a friend. She got to an appointment early and was sitting in her car. A lady drove up beside her and told her she either had to get out of her car or give up the parking spot. According to this women, it was illegal to just sit in her car. My friend rolled her window back up and ignored the women. Illegal to sit in your own car? hahaha -- And anyway, if it's a medical appointment and you're early you're much better off waiting in your own car than in a possibly-germ-filled waiting room. I'm always early to everything because around here you never know what the parking is going to be like. I find a spot early then just sit in my car and read or listen to the radio. As for the original question....I'm torn about these types of things. Definitely I'm all for publish shaming when it comes to racism or violence...I mean, if you're stupid enough to show your face (like the idiots who attacked the capitol) then you deserve what you get. But the other people, like the lady mentioned in this thread....not so sure. But, I always thought "doxing" was when someone set out to uncover someone's identity, and then contact that person's employer. So if that is the definition then just putting the video out isn't it exactly. It's just saying "omg look at this out of control person". Then, as someone said already, if the employer sees it they can take that information and do what they want with it. Personally, I wouldn't want someone who acted like that working for me.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 7, 2023 12:27:33 GMT
Wow! That lady is really rude!! But, I don’t believe in doxxing her for this. If she made threats, then it would be a different story. Something similar happened to a friend. She got to an appointment early and was sitting in her car. A lady drove up beside her and told her she either had to get out of her car or give up the parking spot. According to this women, it was illegal to just sit in her car. My friend rolled her window back up and ignored the women. Illegal to sit in your own car? hahaha -- And anyway, if it's a medical appointment and you're early you're much better off waiting in your own car than in a possibly-germ-filled waiting room. I'm always early to everything because around here you never know what the parking is going to be like. I find a spot early then just sit in my car and read or listen to the radio. As for the original question....I'm torn about these types of things. Definitely I'm all for publish shaming when it comes to racism or violence...I mean, if you're stupid enough to show your face (like the idiots who attacked the capitol) then you deserve what you get. But the other people, like the lady mentioned in this thread....not so sure. But, I always thought "doxing" was when someone set out to uncover someone's identity, and then contact that person's employer. So if that is the definition then just putting the video out isn't it exactly. It's just saying "omg look at this out of control person". Then, as someone said already, if the employer sees it they can take that information and do what they want with it. Personally, I wouldn't want someone who acted like that working for me. People in the comments were tagging some accounts whose sole purpose seems to be finding these types of people so that the public will “do what they will” with that info. Calling for her to be fired, etc. I didn’t read comments more recently but did see that someone posted the possible license plate number and the woman was from Canada. I’m not sure if the incident occurred there or just that the woman was from there.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Mar 7, 2023 12:30:54 GMT
Should people be fired/publicly shamed etc? No of course not. We only ever see one side of the story and even when things seem definitive who knows what extenuating circumstances there ‘could’ be. We are not judges, jury and executioners. I am not comfortable convicting and sentencing anyone based solely on someone else’s single post about them. That dilemma has raised its head here when people post their side of something going on in their life. Oftentimes the peas get all riled up and urge that person to go out and take some pretty bold actions as a result. Meanwhile I’m usually sitting there wondering what the other person’s side of the story might be. It’s happened with perceived bad service from a company before too. Peas jump on the bandwagon and want to post on the company’s social media and call them out. That never feels right to me. We just don’t know the whole story.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 7, 2023 14:11:44 GMT
Illegal to sit in your own car? hahaha -- And anyway, if it's a medical appointment and you're early you're much better off waiting in your own car than in a possibly-germ-filled waiting room. I'm always early to everything because around here you never know what the parking is going to be like. I find a spot early then just sit in my car and read or listen to the radio. As for the original question....I'm torn about these types of things. Definitely I'm all for publish shaming when it comes to racism or violence...I mean, if you're stupid enough to show your face (like the idiots who attacked the capitol) then you deserve what you get. But the other people, like the lady mentioned in this thread....not so sure. But, I always thought "doxing" was when someone set out to uncover someone's identity, and then contact that person's employer. So if that is the definition then just putting the video out isn't it exactly. It's just saying "omg look at this out of control person". Then, as someone said already, if the employer sees it they can take that information and do what they want with it. Personally, I wouldn't want someone who acted like that working for me. People in the comments were tagging some accounts whose sole purpose seems to be finding these types of people so that the public will “do what they will” with that info. Calling for her to be fired, etc. I didn’t read comments more recently but did see that someone posted the possible license plate number and the woman was from Canada. I’m not sure if the incident occurred there or just that the woman was from there. I follow TizzyENT on TT and IG. His whole platform is sharing videos of wretched people. Most of them are racist or violent. And I truly appreciate when people are brought to light - Recently, there was a woman who burned a pride flag outside a restaurant (it was the restaurant's flag). The whole building went up in flames, including the apartments above! She could have seriously killed someone! They found her ass. Then there was a woman who threatened a Latino family for over a year, with a HAMMER, constantly harrassing them. The family was terrified. It was only bc people brought the story to light that the police finally freaking did something about it. So, those types of stories, I'm all for it. I am so sick of people thinking their actions do not have serious consequences.
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