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Post by elaine on Mar 10, 2023 0:40:19 GMT
Well, and the flip side would be all the folks who live in the UK should have the same “moral obligation” to defend all the royals who live in the UK (KC, William, Kate, Andrew, etc.) because they are all “neighbors”, right? So, there should be no criticism of the UK peas defending them against the allegations of the Markles. I wonder if someone fell and hit their head besides Mitch McConnell. Actually Elaine, I think you’ll find we’re all neighbours… 😉😂 I love you. 💕
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 10, 2023 0:41:29 GMT
Good NEIGHBOR - ROFL - you are really hilarious. Yes you're 350+ miles away, but you're their neighbor and they're looking for your support. What in the hell are you smoking? I have often defended them and think people take their actions way too personally in their criticism, but this is absolutely a first in taking their support personal for an absolute stranger who has nothing to do with you. Well, and the flip side would be all the folks who live in the UK should have the same “moral obligation” to defend all the royals who live in the UK (KC, William, Kate, Andrew, etc.) because they are all “neighbors”, right? So, there should be no criticism of the UK peas defending them against the allegations of the Markles. I wonder if someone fell and hit their head besides Mitch McConnell. Hey on the plus side as a native California, I'm pretty sure NoCa and SoCa usually don't even consider themselves in the same state - so being neighbors is a nice change of pace!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 10, 2023 0:45:46 GMT
This thread is insane. The amount of vitriol most of you have for people you’ve never met, that have absolutely zero to do with your actual life, is astonishing. Talk about living rent free in peoples heads. You guys must have some serious high blood pressure 🤣 i don't hate them... and I don't really think any peas do either. They are just discussing/sharing their take on the situation. I am fascinated by the British (and other) royal families, and how they are navigating modern times in a very traditional, typically non-changing instituion. They either have the worst advisors on the planet, or they are their own advisor and for every move they make, they fumble or stumble. It's just not smooth. I used to think they could NOT do this on purpose, but now I think they know exactly what they are doing. Maybe they don't care, maybe they are needling the royal palace, who knows. But it shocks me to see such a star-power couple really lose their luster. If I had to pick a work, I would say H&M actually amuse or baffle me. (ok that is 2 words). I now also categorize them with Queen Marguerite's 2nd son, whose children's titles were taken away.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 10, 2023 0:47:32 GMT
Like any public figure, we’re going to have opinions about them. Just expressing those opinions here as we do other public figures. Let’s not pretend we’re all above gossip on this board.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 10, 2023 0:54:49 GMT
I’m defending these two because I’m getting weary with this notion that it is acceptable behavior for an individual or a group of individuals to publicly trash another individual or in this case a couple for no other reason then they rub one the wrong way.
Will Smith got a lot of criticism because he slapped Chris Rock in public because of comments Rock made about his wife. And rightly so. But Chris Rock got a pass for making fun of Jada. Rock waited a year and did a special on Netflix and from what I understand he went after Will & Jada along some others. Ha ha ha let’s ridicule these people ha ha ha.
He’s not the only comedian who thinks it’s acceptable to publicly ridicule others in the name of getting cheap laughs.
And there is even a tv show that ridicules people for no other reason than getting cheap laughs.
Then there are threads like this one where more than a few posters take great delight in picking apart, in a petty vindictive way, everything this couple does. Why do you (general you) feel the need to do it? What did this couple ever do to you (general you) personally to warrant the behavior being shown to them on this board? I just don’t get it. And no I don’t expect any answers.
The United States has a bullying problem and you can’t tell me the behavior noted above does not contribute in some way to a potential bully becoming a bully. I can’t imagine how someone feels that is being relentless bullied to the point they commit suicide.
Nor can I imagine how Jada feels being Chris Rocks’s target of the month or how Harry and Meghan felt being ridiculed on a tv show. And none of you can either. Maybe if you did….
Getting off my 🧼 📦 now.
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Post by belgravia on Mar 10, 2023 1:20:38 GMT
This thread is insane. The amount of vitriol most of you have for people you’ve never met, that have absolutely zero to do with your actual life, is astonishing. Talk about living rent free in peoples heads. You guys must have some serious high blood pressure 🤣 i don't hate them... and I don't really think any peas do either. They are just discussing/sharing their take on the situation. I am fascinated by the British (and other) royal families, and how they are navigating modern times in a very traditional, typically non-changing instituion. They either have the worst advisors on the planet, or they are their own advisor and for every move they make, they fumble or stumble. It's just not smooth. I used to think they could NOT do this on purpose, but now I think they know exactly what they are doing. Maybe they don't care, maybe they are needling the royal palace, who knows. But it shocks me to see such a star-power couple really lose their luster. If I had to pick a work, I would say H&M actually amuse or baffle me. (ok that is 2 words). I now also categorize them with Queen Marguerite's 2nd son, whose children's titles were You have to admit, the tone of this thread goes well beyond bafflement or amusement. I’m kind of baffled and amused by them myself. I mean, I don’t have strong feelings about them either way. I find them…interesting. I’m not raging about their kids having titles or not, Bishop vs. Archbishop, baptism vs. christening, OMG someone should call CPS on Harry because he’s a junkie unfit father, Meghan photoshops her kids hair in pictures (more ginger? less ginger? Who knows?). IMO, it goes beyond gossip and it’s weird and excessive to behave like that about people who, as I said, you’ve never met and have zero impact on your life. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by pjaye on Mar 10, 2023 1:21:55 GMT
This thread is insane. The amount of vitriol most of you have for people you’ve never met, that have absolutely zero to do with your actual life, is astonishing. Talk about living rent free in peoples heads. You guys must have some serious high blood pressure 🤣 Thanks for letting us know what we are allowed to talk about Karen. From someone who has never started a single thread on this board - it's pretty rich for you to be lecturing people on whatever topic we DO start and ARE engaged in talking about - you make ZERO effort to start conversations but you're all about the name calling and handslapping to stop them. You must be such fun in real life It seemingly never gets old for people who have very little to add to any topic to come in on a thread they are not interested in and tell everyone else that they have no right to talk about it. Then start calling everyone insane, crazy, unchristian, outraged, vindictive, hateful etc. Here's another word for you - hypocrite. Let’s not pretend we’re all above gossip on this board. well we used to be able to have a good/fun gossip about celebrities but now all the woke Karen pearl clutchers and their Nana friends do their best to shut down every topic that doesn't meet their approval...then go crying on other threads about how everyone has been chased off and how the board will die. Yeah - take a wild guess why? I'd rather have a spirited discussion about some celebrity I'll never meet than read 4 pages of "I had cornflakes for breakfast"...the difference is I don't go into the breakfast thread and call everyone boring.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 10, 2023 1:24:28 GMT
I'll hold my breath until you get back on...it'll only take a few seconds
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Post by myshelly on Mar 10, 2023 1:25:30 GMT
I'll hold my breath until you get back on...it'll only take a few seconds Well, she’s gotta go find her next tweet to copy and paste. Give her a minute.
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Post by belgravia on Mar 10, 2023 1:31:04 GMT
This thread is insane. The amount of vitriol most of you have for people you’ve never met, that have absolutely zero to do with your actual life, is astonishing. Talk about living rent free in peoples heads. You guys must have some serious high blood pressure 🤣 Thanks for letting us know what we are allowed to talk about Karen. From someone who has never started a single thread on this board - it's pretty rich for you to be lecturing people on whatever topic we DO start and ARE engaged in talking about - you make ZERO effort to start conversations but you're all about the name calling and handslapping to stop them. You must be such fun in real life It seemingly never gets old for people who have very little to add to any topic to come in on a thread they are not interested in and tell everyone else that they have no right to talk about it. Then start calling everyone insane, crazy, unchristian, outraged, vindictive, hateful etc. Here's another word for you - hypocrite. Let’s not pretend we’re all above gossip on this board. well we used to be able to have a good/fun gossip about celebrities but now all the woke Karen pearl clutchers and their Nana friends do their best to shut down every topic that doesn't meet their approval...then go crying on other threads about how everyone has been chased off and how the board will die. Yeah - take a wild guess why? I'd rather have a spirited discussion about some celebrity I'll never meet than read 4 pages of "I had cornflakes for breakfast"...the difference is I don't go into the breakfast thread and call everyone boring. Yeah you can for sure go fuck yourself.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 10, 2023 1:34:12 GMT
Thanks for letting us know what we are allowed to talk about Karen. From someone who has never started a single thread on this board - it's pretty rich for you to be lecturing people on whatever topic we DO start and ARE engaged in talking about - you make ZERO effort to start conversations but you're all about the name calling and handslapping to stop them. You must be such fun in real life It seemingly never gets old for people who have very little to add to any topic to come in on a thread they are not interested in and tell everyone else that they have no right to talk about it. Then start calling everyone insane, crazy, unchristian, outraged, vindictive, hateful etc. Here's another word for you - hypocrite. well we used to be able to have a good/fun gossip about celebrities but now all the woke Karen pearl clutchers and their Nana friends do their best to shut down every topic that doesn't meet their approval...then go crying on other threads about how everyone has been chased off and how the board will die. Yeah - take a wild guess why? I'd rather have a spirited discussion about some celebrity I'll never meet than read 4 pages of "I had cornflakes for breakfast"...the difference is I don't go into the breakfast thread and call everyone boring. Yeah you can for sure go fuck yourself. What were you literally just saying about vitriol for people you’ve never met? Pot, kettle.
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Post by belgravia on Mar 10, 2023 1:38:48 GMT
Yeah you can for sure go fuck yourself. What were you literally just saying about vitriol for people you’ve never met? Pot, kettle. Did you miss the part about having zero impact on my life? I mean, I can have vitriol towards a politician whom I’ve never met, because they have impact on my life. Pjaye, in all her loveliness, calls me a pearl clutching hypocritical Karen, which has impact on me. Not much, admittedly 🤣 but I can respond in kind.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 10, 2023 1:46:34 GMT
Yeah you can for sure go fuck yourself Careful with that blood pressure!
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Post by Jennifer C on Mar 10, 2023 1:49:01 GMT
4. How come no one wants to talk about William and his mistress Rose? Alleged mistress, and what is there to say? The perpetrator of the rumour, Giles Coron admitted he started the rumour. Never happened. He made it up. He hung around Soho House. Guess who else frequented Soho House. Jennifer
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Post by belgravia on Mar 10, 2023 1:49:02 GMT
Yeah you can for sure go fuck yourself Careful with that blood pressure! All good here, thanks. Your concern is touching though.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 10, 2023 2:39:14 GMT
I feel like we’ve entered the 🍿section of this thread.
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Post by Laurie on Mar 10, 2023 4:28:28 GMT
This thread is insane. The amount of vitriol most of you have for people you’ve never met, that have absolutely zero to do with your actual life, is astonishing. Talk about living rent free in peoples heads. You guys must have some serious high blood pressure 🤣 In fairness they would have absolutely zero to do with my actual life if it weren’t for the fact that they are constantly putting themselves in the news and media in an attempt to make sure I and everyone else know that they are being mistreated and are victims. They would have absolutely zero to do with my actual life if they truly meant it when they said they want privacy and to be left alone. In order to do so you don’t constantly do interviews or pay per view therapy sessions. In the end they don’t want to be part of the royal family but they want their daughter to have the title of princess. That is my takeaway from this stunt.
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Post by Laurie on Mar 10, 2023 4:32:33 GMT
I’m defending these two because I’m getting weary with this notion that it is acceptable behavior for an individual or a group of individuals to publicly trash another individual or in this case a couple for no other reason then they rub one the wrong way. Will Smith got a lot of criticism because he slapped Chris Rock in public because of comments Rock made about his wife. And rightly so. But Chris Rock got a pass for making fun of Jada. Rock waited a year and did a special on Netflix and from what I understand he went after Will & Jada along some others. Ha ha ha let’s ridicule these people ha ha ha. He’s not the only comedian who thinks it’s acceptable to publicly ridicule others in the name of getting cheap laughs. And there is even a tv show that ridicules people for no other reason than getting cheap laughs. Then there are threads like this one where more than a few posters take great delight in picking apart, in a petty vindictive way, everything this couple does. Why do you (general you) feel the need to do it? What did this couple ever do to you (general you) personally to warrant the behavior being shown to them on this board? I just don’t get it. And no I don’t expect any answers. The United States has a bullying problem and you can’t tell me the behavior noted above does not contribute in some way to a potential bully becoming a bully. I can’t imagine how someone feels that is being relentless bullied to the point they commit suicide. Nor can I imagine how Jada feels being Chris Rocks’s target of the month or how Harry and Meghan felt being ridiculed on a tv show. And none of you can either. Maybe if you did…. Getting off my 🧼 📦 now. It is hard to feel too sorry for Jada being the “target of the month” when her show is about putting guests on the spot and making them uncomfortable.
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Post by MerryMom on Mar 10, 2023 4:37:05 GMT
I really don’t get all this side issue vitriol for a little girl’s christening.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2023 8:10:51 GMT
While it's got to be acceptable to have views about people's behaviour, I find it a tricky one, because when everyone agrees about something on an online platform, YouTube for example, it can result in the feeling of a trolling pile-on, when in fact it's just people having strong feelings about things (though a lot of YT is doubtless content creation for drama and clicks - that's less nice).
The thing that bothers me about the noise around this couple (and I'm a bit of a Royal Family fangirl) is that it's all so polarised: not a lot of nuance or grey areas. Certainly on YouTube, the content is either Team Harkle or Team Wales. I bet a lot of people are both, but trying to see the perspective of both sides isn't encouraged because it doesn't fit well with online algorithms.
Was it a good thing for Meghan to join the UK Royals? A-mazing. Could she have done more homework about what that would involve? Definitely. Are the RF like a museum when it comes to attitudes and emotional literacy? Yes, and we Brits all know that. In some ways, Meghan has done them an incredible favour in pointing out that they need to update and bloody fast. Did she do what she needed to do to extricate herself from an archaic set-up that involves more work and less money than she expected? Sure, good for her. Did H&M upset everyone on the way out and do the pair continue to upset them? Without doubt.
It's a mess and a shockingly public one for an institution so rooted in the 'stiff upper lip, never complain, never explain'-mentality.
Personally I'd like to see them all sort this out - it's incredibly sad and hopefully in time, some conversations can happen that help repair things.
In the meantime, I think it's sensible to observe what's going on, question motives, have conversations, engage with ideas - as with any other news, it's good to have considered thoughts about what we think is going on.
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 10, 2023 10:38:47 GMT
Like any public figure, we’re going to have opinions about them. Just expressing those opinions here as we do other public figures. Let’s not pretend we’re all above gossip on this board. I don’t hate them. I do find them sort of ridiculous/amusing, wanting privacy while planting articles in People, writing books, giving interviews, and doing a Netflix program. They have made themselves public figures, so they are fair game. So yeah, we have opinions. The South Park episode about them rings true to me. Their kids are very cute, however.
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Post by peasapie on Mar 10, 2023 11:27:11 GMT
Things this non-Royal-follower has learned from this thread: Omid - the British gossip reporter Rose - the other woman (allegedly) Harkle - where have I been hiding? Lilibet - adorable and (?) Princess Frogmore-the cottage from which Harkle was evicted I seldom see articles about the royals so I have to keep up to date here.
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Post by gar on Mar 10, 2023 12:48:19 GMT
I’m defending these two because I’m getting weary with this notion that it is acceptable behavior for an individual or a group of individuals to publicly trash another individual or in this case a couple for no other reason then they rub one the wrong way. Kind of like they've publicly trashed the Royal Family you mean? Hilarious!
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Post by pjaye on Mar 10, 2023 14:08:07 GMT
Then there is the third brother. I forgot he existed until Elizabeth’s funeral. Wasn’t it thought that he might be gay at one time? Not that it should matter but it does to some. I always find it interesting when someone who isn't interested in a topic and doesn't know anything about it...acts as if everyone else is as ignorant about it as they are. "The 3rd bother that no-one remembers" who has been married to his wife Sophie (one of the Queen's favourites) for 24 years (without a whiff of a scandal about his sex life) has just been given his late father's title by King Charles. They are now the Duke & Duchess of Edinburgh. They are another couple who do all of the boring royal jobs with grace, a positive attitude, a smile on their face and without complaint. It's a well deserved 'promotion' for them!
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 10, 2023 14:14:22 GMT
"The 3rd bother that no-one remembers" who has been married to his wife Sophie (one of the Queen's favourites) for 24 years (without a whiff of a scandal about his sex life) has just been given his late father's title by King Charles. They are now the Duke & Duchess of Edinburgh. They are another couple who do all of the boring royal jobs with grace, a positive attitude, a smile on their face and without complaint. It's a well deserved 'promotion' for them! So glad for them! I really like they way they have stepped up in the past couple of years. The 'promotion' is indeed well deserved.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 10, 2023 14:17:09 GMT
Then there is the third brother. I forgot he existed until Elizabeth’s funeral. Wasn’t it thought that he might be gay at one time? Not that it should matter but it does to some. I always find it interesting when someone who isn't interested in a topic and doesn't know anything about it...acts as if everyone else is as ignorant about it as they are. "The 3rd bother that no-one remembers" who has been married to his wife Sophie (one of the Queen's favourites) for 24 years (without a whiff of a scandal about his sex life) has just been given his late father's title by King Charles. They are now the Duke & Duchess of Edinburgh.They are another couple who do all of the boring royal jobs with grace, a positive attitude, a smile on their face and without complaint. It's a well deserved 'promotion' for them! OH I hadn't seen this!!!! I know it was the Queen's wish but Charles had not bestowed him with the title yet! This is great!!! Although there was talk that he was saving it for Prs Charlotte which would have been great too!
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Post by sueg on Mar 10, 2023 14:25:17 GMT
I always find it interesting when someone who isn't interested in a topic and doesn't know anything about it...acts as if everyone else is as ignorant about it as they are. "The 3rd bother that no-one remembers" who has been married to his wife Sophie (one of the Queen's favourites) for 24 years (without a whiff of a scandal about his sex life) has just been given his late father's title by King Charles. They are now the Duke & Duchess of Edinburgh.They are another couple who do all of the boring royal jobs with grace, a positive attitude, a smile on their face and without complaint. It's a well deserved 'promotion' for them! OH I hadn't seen this!!!! I know it was the Queen's wish but Charles had not bestowed him with the title yet! This is great!!! Although there was talk that he was saving it for Prs Charlotte which would have been great too! The report I read said that King Charles bestowed the title on Prince Edward on his birthday, which is today, so still very 'new' news. Charlotte is still very young (almost 8?) so it would be a long time before she would be given a title like this.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 10, 2023 14:28:02 GMT
OH I hadn't seen this!!!! I know it was the Queen's wish but Charles had not bestowed him with the title yet! This is great!!! Although there was talk that he was saving it for Prs Charlotte which would have been great too! The report I read said that King Charles bestowed the title on Prince Edward on his birthday, which is today, so still very 'new' news. Charlotte is still very young (almost 8?) so it would be a long time before she would be given a title like this. Right, but I think that is why there was speculation that he was holding from bestowing the title to Edward. I am glad that he gave it to his brother, as it is what the parents wanted and he seems to work hard at representing the family.
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Post by gar on Mar 10, 2023 15:59:51 GMT
The perpetrator of the rumour, Giles Coron admitted he started the rumour. Never happened. He made it up. Giles Coren, the English journalist?
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Post by gillyp on Mar 10, 2023 16:24:42 GMT
Y'know, the only place I have ever seen this Wills/Rose thing is here, on this forum. I sell newspapers and gossip mags; it has never been in one that I am aware of so I Googled and the only references I can find relate to US magazines and one, In Touch (??) in particular where it is stated that they suggested that William may have had an affair. Sounds cast iron solid to me. (snarky eye rolling)
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