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Post by ralams3 on Aug 6, 2023 18:10:56 GMT
For the first time, DS brought a "friend" home to meet us. This got me thinking about the future.
When DD got married, we contributed about 1/3 of the cost. She paid a third. The inlaws paid 1/3 and hosted a brunch at their home.
I said to DH that we should be planning to contribute to a possible future wedding for DS. DH seems to think that parents of the groom don't need to pay anything. I disagree.
Norms aside, I want to keep things "fair" between my 2 children.
How were things done in your family?
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Post by peabay on Aug 6, 2023 18:16:57 GMT
We paid about 1/2, my dd and her dh paid about 1/3 and his parents kicked in the rest. We didn't expect them to and were very grateful - it was really nice of them. They paid for the rehearsal dinner too.
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Post by peaname on Aug 6, 2023 18:17:48 GMT
Rules no longer apply. Let go of expectations and guilt and help if you want to, it’s your money.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 6, 2023 18:25:39 GMT
Yeah, I like the old rules, but everyone has a different situation. So if the groom’s family ends up spending more than the bride’s family does, sometimes that’s the only workable option. In your case I would contribute the same (more or less) amount that I spent on DD’s wedding. Unless the bride’s family insisted on paying for the whole thing. And I’d pay for the rehearsal dinner regardless. Because old rules.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 6, 2023 18:26:53 GMT
My parents didn't contribute to my wedding. They had very little money and had to save up to fly out and attend (I am a first-generation college student who had Pell grants). I wanted a small (40-ish) guest wedding. My inlaws insisted that this was not ok, and that we had to invite over 200 people and that they would pay for the wedding. My husband and I paid for the rehearsal dinner, which was all of the out-of-town guests and was expensive. My inlaws were very controlling about the wedding planning because they were paying--they vetoed the venue we'd chosen, eg, even though it was the same price as the one we ended up with, because they didn't like it -- and I regret not having the small wedding we could have pid for. They also got mad at my parents for "not even offering to pay," even though it was a financial hardship for them just to attend.
TL;DR -- I think parents should cover what they feel generous enough to cover, if they want to, and/but that it's not either set of parents' responsibility, and there is nothing wrong with saying, hey, couple, have the wedding you can afford. I am paying for all of my kids for college, but I have told them -- regardless of gender -- that we may or may not help with a wedding. I do think gendered expectations are weird -- I have four boys and have no idea why I should be more or less willing to pay if they get married.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 6, 2023 18:35:55 GMT
We gave both couples the same amount of money. They could do what they wanted with it. Both sons wanted really low key weddings (one in Garden of the Gods, one in our back yard). We were going to offer twice as much (they didn't know that at the time), but neither wedding cost much and we hosted a rehearsal dinner for one wedding.
For me, it was easy to be fair. Both sons wanted a low key wedding. They were 8 weeks apart.
I would say if you offered 1/3 for the daughter, the same amount should be offered to the son. If you wanted to be traditional, you should have offered to pay all of the daughter's wedding (not saying you should have though).
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Post by momto4kiddos on Aug 6, 2023 18:46:11 GMT
We have 4 and at least a couple will marry in the next few years. After hearing some stories (dd's ex's family offered to pay 1/2 of their sons wedding and ended up having to come up with 30K. Had no idea they'd be on the hook for that much.) Another friend gave big weddings to first 2 dd's, 2nd wanted a house so she got a much smaller wedding and some cash from parents. So give we have 4 with various tastes, cashflow and some with girlfriends whose parents won't help with wedding we decided we'll give a hopefully good sized cash gift for them to do what they please. Now we just need to figure out what a good sized gift amount is Not even sure what the average wedding would cost these days.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 6, 2023 18:56:14 GMT
I plan to contribute the same to my son or daughter. I am not a fan of the old rules. I never differentiated with them based on gender on anything else, why would I for their wedding?
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Aug 6, 2023 18:58:38 GMT
Three of my four boys are married - we had three weddings in three years! Whew. And every one was somewhat different. We did pay for the rehearsal dinners for all three. Other than that, we had one that both sets of parents were about 50-50, one where we footed most, and one where the bride's family went all out. I don't have any problem with not being 'equal' with this sort of thing. Needs vary and responses can vary as well.
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Post by rymeswithpurple on Aug 6, 2023 18:59:01 GMT
My brother isn't married yet, but when my DH and I got married, we paid about 60% and my parents paid the rest. They covered catering and rentals (extra chairs and tables and a tent). We also planned everything in about 4 months and paid just under $8k for everything (total), and I'm pretty proud of that, especially given that we live in a HCOL area.
There are certain things we would change looking back, but at the end of the day, we're married and happy and that's all that matters.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 6, 2023 19:01:26 GMT
I think, in general, each child regardless of gender should be given the same amount.
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Post by mom on Aug 6, 2023 19:03:35 GMT
We will give our sons money - and they can use that money to get married or put down on a home.
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Post by roundtwo on Aug 6, 2023 19:22:27 GMT
DH seems to think that parents of the groom don't need to pay anything. Was he okay with the grooms family paying a third when your dd was married? I want to keep things "fair" between my 2 children. I think this is the sensible way to go, at least in my opinion. The traditional way was sort of like selling your daughters off to someone else to look after them and I like to think we have changed a little in our way of thinking over the years.
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Post by taylortroop on Aug 6, 2023 19:58:54 GMT
We have 2 sons. The oldest got married 7 years ago and the wedding was at his fiancées family farm. We gave them money with the intent of them using it to pay for part of the wedding. It was very low cost but a wonderful day. We also hosted and paid for the rehearsal dinner.
Our youngest son lives with his girlfriend and at this point there are no wedding plans. If they decide to marry, we will give them money to use for the wedding as well.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 6, 2023 20:03:04 GMT
My parent's covered my wedding as they wanted to as they did for my sister. They helped out with my brother's wedding.
If feasible, we will cover dd's wedding if she chooses to get married.
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Post by peabay on Aug 6, 2023 20:08:05 GMT
We have 4 and at least a couple will marry in the next few years. After hearing some stories (dd's ex's family offered to pay 1/2 of their sons wedding and ended up having to come up with 30K. Had no idea they'd be on the hook for that much.) Another friend gave big weddings to first 2 dd's, 2nd wanted a house so she got a much smaller wedding and some cash from parents. So give we have 4 with various tastes, cashflow and some with girlfriends whose parents won't help with wedding we decided we'll give a hopefully good sized cash gift for them to do what they please. Now we just need to figure out what a good sized gift amount is Not even sure what the average wedding would cost these days. We also have 4 daughters and that's what we did - we gave our daughter a lump sum and she could do whatever she wanted with it. They applied what we gave them, added their own (they are 30 and 31 and have been living together for 7 years - they're grown ups and saved up once they got engaged) and what his parents gave them. We'll give each girl the same amount, we decided. The average wedding costs 39K. I will tell you my dd's was not a fancy wedding (at all) and it was a good bit more than that. Food was very important to them, so they didn't skimp on that, but everything just adds up: the flowers, the photographer, music, wedding planner, the dress, transportation, makeup, hair and so on. It was worth every penny - one of the best days of our lives.
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Post by gar on Aug 6, 2023 20:11:35 GMT
Because of the industry my son in law works in, his and my DDs wedding was quite highly staged, if that's the right word - which didn't come cheap. They were well into their 20s and earning well and they would not let us pay as would have been traditional I suppose. We bought her dress, paid for the hotel for their wedding night and a few other elements. His parents contributed as they could and they paid the bulk themselves.
I think the days of automatically expecting the bride's parents to pay are gone and each situation is different.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 6, 2023 20:16:14 GMT
we have three kids.. one married a new zealand girl.. they had a wedding in new zealand, and we didn't pay for much. then they had a SF wedding. and we paid for it. and the rehearsal dinner.. pretty simple wedding.. was under $13,000 for 100 people. lots of home done stuff.
then my son got married to a woman who is 15 yrs older.. her parents did not contribute a penny because she did not want to be married in a church. so we paid for rehearsal dinner.. and probably a few thousand here and there.. but they paid for it and are still paying off the loans. in the end we probably contributed 7-8 thousand.
our third kid will probably never marry.. would lose ssi benefits. but there it is.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 6, 2023 20:55:50 GMT
When we got married 27 years ago, we got $1000 from dh's parents and 1000 or 2000 from mom. We covered the rest. At a time when the average wedding was around $20k, ours came in around $7k. My dress was a sample that I paid $400 for plus $200 in alterations- the bridal store really messed up on that charge as they had to take the entire dress apart because I am not tall. We did not have an open bar, we only paid for a keg, which made the per person cost about 1/2 as much. (We did a regular banquet pkg, not a wedding pkg). Tye DJ was the Orkin man at MILs work who DJ'd on the side. Our biggest expense was photography and I am so glad we splurged there.
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Post by caangel on Aug 6, 2023 21:06:53 GMT
My parents had investment funds for me and my brother. We were given them to use how we wanted as we were wedding planning. Dh's parents had something similar and did the same. They also hosted a second reception a months or so later in their home town that they paid for.
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Post by Zee on Aug 6, 2023 21:10:23 GMT
I'm not interested in funding a $39k wedding or whatever the "norm" is nowadays, what a waste of money that could be put towards a house instead of one day celebrating something that could very well end in divorce. Is that a dim view? Yes it sure is, but I've seen what I've seen.
I paid for my own wedding 28 years ago so it was very low key, low budget, and relaxed. Nothing really to stress over, which was nice. I think my daughter would be ok with all that but she isn't sure she ever even wants to get married. I can't imagine DS ever wanting a big wedding.
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Post by Lexica on Aug 6, 2023 21:11:51 GMT
I only have sisters, but when we were teens, my parents told us that they would give each of us a set dollar amount for our wedding and how we chose to use it was up to us. My oldest sister chose to go to Vegas and used the money from my parents toward their first condo. I chose a bigger wedding, but in my parent’s back yard around the pool. My younger sister chose to get married at the beach at sunrise. Basically, all of us chose to have lower cost events and to put the remaining money toward starting out our lives. In my case, my DH’s parents paid for the rehearsal dinner, but did not chip in for anything else.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Aug 6, 2023 21:49:38 GMT
Hopefully my son’s wedding is wayyyyyy far out into the future.
My daughter gets married in less than a week. It’s a very non traditional, expensive, destination wedding. The guest list is small, and I have no idea how much everything costs, or who is paying for what. Both she and her fiancé are professionals. His parents are split up, mother is remarried. My understanding is the father is unreliable at best (not coming to the wedding.)
On our side, my daughter has her biological father (remarried), her biological mother (remarried.) And me ( coupled up lol- used to be stepmom, but wayyyy closer than either of her bio parents.)
I offered to pay for photog (I’m a scrapbooker- but I wasn't expecting it to be over $3500 and that doesn't include any prints!) I am also paying for the rehearsal dinner (I told her and her fiancé I would, but it would be nice if a couple other credit cards show up when the folio is brought.)
The destination is expensive. The travel and lodging alone, before a bite is eaten or a sight seen, is 10k for two of us, for a week.
I expect to contribute in the same manner for my son.
Fwiw- bio mother isn’t contributing anything, and will likely dine and dash. And it’s taking every last bit of “be the bigger person” to pay for her food and inclusion in photos. I have no idea why she’s even coming (she lives a 4 hour drive away…) My daughter always said she wasn’t invited- but a week ago…. Here we are lol
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 6, 2023 21:58:00 GMT
I don't know how to express my feelings about this, but it bothers me that the feelings about paying for a wedding differ based on whether it's a son or daughter. That seems like a very messed up way of thinking. I mean, do you love your son less than your daughter? Why would you give more for your daughters wedding than your sons wedding? It doesn't seem right.
My husband and I paid for almost all of our wedding on our own. We have been married 27 years this month. We had a Disneyland fantasy wedding. I still remember the total for our wedding. Dh's parents gave $700 to help pay for some expenses and my parents gave about $500 to spend on our honeymoon. We were thankful for their generosity. Particularly for my parents, it was not easy for them to come up with that money. Parents should give what they can, but not be expected to pay for the whole thing. Things are so expensive now. If you want an expensive wedding, you better be prepared to front most of that money on your own.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 6, 2023 21:59:44 GMT
Ds and his long-term live in got married in April. They wanted no fuss, and decided to elope to a nearby town. We were happy they did what they wanted to do, we and gave them a cash gift which they will use for some new furniture.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Aug 6, 2023 22:41:26 GMT
When dh and I got married, we paid for pretty much all of our wedding. My mom did give us a I think $1000 and that was a stretch. I honestly do not remember if fil contributed. Mil paid for the photographer and the rehearsal dinner. Fil might have helped with that but really don't remember. Everything else we paid for.
We have a ds and a dd. Not sure really how we'll handle it. DD is younger but she has been with her bf going on 4 years and they do talk about the future. She still has 4 years of school left, so it'll be a bit. I imagine we'll help some but not being able to foot the whole bill. Same with ds, when he decides to settle down. I'm guessing dh and I'll have to agree on an amount and let them both know, here is what we can do for both of you. Do as you wish/need.
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Post by mellyw on Aug 6, 2023 22:47:22 GMT
I'm not interested in funding a $39k wedding or whatever the "norm" is nowadays, what a waste of money that could be put towards a house instead of one day celebrating something that could very well end in divorce. Is that a dim view? Yes it sure is, but I've seen what I've seen. I paid for my own wedding 28 years ago so it was very low key, low budget, and relaxed. Nothing really to stress over, which was nice. I think my daughter would be ok with all that but she isn't sure she ever even wants to get married. I can't imagine DS ever wanting a big wedding. This is so much my view. My DD was going to have a big wedding (about 220 people), plans in place, and Covid hit. Luckily deposits were refunded. So they ended up using the wedding money we gave to double their house down payment (we gave a certain amount for them to divvy up how they wanted). They ended up marrying in our backyard, just immediate family because gatherings then could only be so many people. I still can’t get over how much weddings are. A $40,000 wedding or use that for down payment on a house. It’s a no brainer to me
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Post by littlemama on Aug 6, 2023 22:55:58 GMT
I don't know how to express my feelings about this, but it bothers me that the feelings about paying for a wedding differ based on whether it's a son or daughter. That seems like a very messed up way of thinking. I mean, do you love your son less than your daughter? Why would you give more for your daughters wedding than your sons wedding? It doesn't seem right. My husband and I paid for almost all of our wedding on our own. We have been married 27 years this month. We had a Disneyland fantasy wedding. I still remember the total for our wedding. Dh's parents gave $700 to help pay for some expenses and my parents gave about $500 to spend on our honeymoon. We were thankful for their generosity. Particularly for my parents, it was not easy for them to come up with that money. Parents should give what they can, but not be expected to pay for the whole thing. Things are so expensive now. If you want an expensive wedding, you better be prepared to front most of that money on your own. We are discussing tradition, which was definitely starting to go by the wayside when I got married and is far less prevalent now, but I still know of brides whose family paid for their entire wedding within the past few years. Back when families could live comfortably on one income, it was more common. We havent been in that situation in many years. Baby Boomers were the last generation where that was the case for most.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 6, 2023 23:09:00 GMT
I don’t know how things broke down for my siblings because all but one are a lot older than I am. My mom bought my dress ($500) and paid $1000 for the catering. The in-laws paid for the rehearsal dinner (for about 8-10 people at a moderately priced restaurant) and gave us about $1000 which went toward other expenses. We paid the rest ourselves with the exception of the honeymoon/travel expenses which was a gift from his grandma. We had a very small wedding (maybe 60-80 guests in total) early in the afternoon, the reception was a buffet, decor for the church, hall and cake was mostly DIY. We didn’t have a dance or any liquor at all which saved us a lot. I’d guess that without counting the honeymoon that his grandma paid for, we probably spent about $6000 all in, including what our parents contributed.
If my DD ever decides to get married there is a lot that we can do ourselves to cut the costs. I think you can host a really nice wedding on a budget and put the money saved toward a house or something else more permanent. I’d much rather pay for my kid’s education quite honestly.
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Post by iowgirl on Aug 6, 2023 23:30:50 GMT
I said to DH that we should be planning to contribute to a possible future wedding for DS. DH seems to think that parents of the groom don't need to pay anything. I disagree. We paid for our daughters wedding, and the grooms parents paid for the open bar. My daughter bought her own dress and paid for the photographer - I wanted to do that, but she had it paid for before I had a chance. The wedding was not terribly expensive - A full catered meal for 225 plus tips was under 2K .. I love the area we live in! LOL
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