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Post by papersilly on Oct 16, 2023 21:36:59 GMT
it is impressive especially when most regular people can't raise anywhere near that amount because they are not famous and media doesn't pick up on their story like they have with retton's. i have questions. will she actually use the money when she chose not to get health insurance? will they stop crowd funding at some point? so she won't have to sell her house or downsize because she crowd funded the money?
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 17, 2023 0:48:44 GMT
it is impressive especially when most regular people can't raise anywhere near that amount because they are not famous and media doesn't pick up on their story like they have with retton's. i have questions. will she actually use the money when she chose not to get health insurance? will they stop crowd funding at some point? so she won't have to sell her house or downsize because she crowd funded the money? Yes, exactly. Especially considering most crowdfunding only raises $2000. www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/health/mary-lou-retton-medical-bills-crowdfunding.html?searchResultPosition=2 Her work showed that the typical fund-raiser generates about $1,970, falling far short of the $5,000 to $10,000 patients are typically seeking. The most successful campaign in her data set raised $2.4 million, but such high numbers were rare. Fewer than 12 percent of campaigns met their goals.
A growing body of research, however, suggests that much of a crowdfunding campaign’s success boils down to factors outside a patient’s control, including race and income, and that crowdfunding often directs resources to those who need them the least.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 17, 2023 3:30:40 GMT
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Post by katlady on Oct 19, 2023 16:13:14 GMT
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Post by eventhinker on Oct 23, 2023 18:15:39 GMT
I just read that she’s home.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 24, 2023 0:17:40 GMT
I went down the Mary Lou Retton rabbit hole last night and I could not find any articles, tweets, or photos of her with anti-vax people. I was curious, but I didn't find anything. If anyone has a link, prove me wrong. I think I went six pages of results and then gave up.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 14, 2024 13:52:13 GMT
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 14, 2024 13:53:18 GMT
Former Olympic gymnast Mary Lou Retton spoke out last week on the NBC Today show about what she said was a rare pneumonia that almost killed her and resulted in an expensive, monthlong hospital stay.
It was a shocking reveal. One key comment jumped out for those who follow health policy: Retton said she was uninsured, blaming that lack of coverage on 30 orthopedic surgeries that count as "preexisting conditions," a divorce and her poor finances.
"I just couldn't afford it," Retton told host Hoda Kotb, who did not challenge the assertion.
Retton, who after winning the gold medal in 1984 became a well-known figure — "America's sweetheart," appearing on Wheaties boxes and claiming a variety of other endorsements — did not provide details of her income, the illness, the hospital where she was treated or the type of insurance she was seeking, so it's hard to nail down specifics.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 14, 2024 14:00:11 GMT
Former Olympic gymnast Mary Lou Retton spoke out last week on the NBC Today show about what she said was a rare pneumonia that almost killed her and resulted in an expensive, monthlong hospital stay. It was a shocking reveal. One key comment jumped out for those who follow health policy: Retton said she was uninsured, blaming that lack of coverage on 30 orthopedic surgeries that count as "preexisting conditions," a divorce and her poor finances. "I just couldn't afford it," Retton told host Hoda Kotb, who did not challenge the assertion. Retton, who after winning the gold medal in 1984 became a well-known figure — "America's sweetheart," appearing on Wheaties boxes and claiming a variety of other endorsements — did not provide details of her income, the illness, the hospital where she was treated or the type of insurance she was seeking, so it's hard to nail down specifics. Well, the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, so that's a load of horseshit.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 14, 2024 14:02:52 GMT
Former Olympic gymnast Mary Lou Retton spoke out last week on the NBC Today show about what she said was a rare pneumonia that almost killed her and resulted in an expensive, monthlong hospital stay. It was a shocking reveal. One key comment jumped out for those who follow health policy: Retton said she was uninsured, blaming that lack of coverage on 30 orthopedic surgeries that count as "preexisting conditions," a divorce and her poor finances. "I just couldn't afford it," Retton told host Hoda Kotb, who did not challenge the assertion. Retton, who after winning the gold medal in 1984 became a well-known figure — "America's sweetheart," appearing on Wheaties boxes and claiming a variety of other endorsements — did not provide details of her income, the illness, the hospital where she was treated or the type of insurance she was seeking, so it's hard to nail down specifics. Well, the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, so that's a load of horseshit. It did say a person who is 60 with 100,000 income would be at about 1076 monthly but with sliding scale would drop to 776 a month but have high co pays and deductible. So that may have priced her out. But really who knows.
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Post by worrywart on Jan 14, 2024 14:08:55 GMT
She should have been called out on that and asked why she would take money (not sure how much was raised or how many people donated) from people who have lived in much worse circumstances than hers. I'm assuming that she had a career with decent earnings even though appearances, advertising etc.
Not sure where all her money went (assuming that she had money at some point)
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Post by Rhondito on Jan 14, 2024 14:16:02 GMT
Well, the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, so that's a load of horseshit. It did say a person who is 60 with 100,000 income would be at about 1076 monthly but with sliding scale would drop to 776 a month but have high co pays and deductible. So that may have priced her out. But really who knows. Does previous health history impact the cost a person pays?
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 14, 2024 14:58:39 GMT
It did say a person who is 60 with 100,000 income would be at about 1076 monthly but with sliding scale would drop to 776 a month but have high co pays and deductible. So that may have priced her out. But really who knows. Does previous health history impact the cost a person pays? Nope. Just income. It is all income based. I looked into it for ds to see if it could be of help when we were going through the formula saga and we would be paying $1,200 a month with a $5,000 deductible. I noted my way out. That was with medical conditions and without. Solely based on income. We got 0 assistance with sliding scale. It is truly not based on medical history.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 14, 2024 16:01:36 GMT
“Retton said she was uninsured, blaming that lack of coverage on 30 orthopedic surgeries that count as "preexisting conditions," a divorce and her poor finances.”
Right there is the truth. Absolute fools send people like her money. She has gone through millions from over the top spending. There are so many people that lose everything through no fault of their own. She is not one of them. Someone needs to tell her to get a job.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 14, 2024 21:03:50 GMT
Insurance is expensive. I think most of us would rather not spend so much for insurance that we may or may not need. I know I have many other thinks that I could spend that money on. I could have a nicer house, go on a vacation, save more, and so on. But we are responsible and pay for the insurance. It seems to me that the responsible thing for Mary Lou Retton to do would have been to get a less expensive house so she could also afford the insurance. Or get a job that would help with that if needed.
Last year I was talking to another parent who was complaining about health care costs and that she “might have to get a formal job” rather than be self employed because of insurance costs. They were uninsured and she had some health problems. So she was trying to make it look like they had less income so they could qualify for medical assistance. And in the next part of the conversation she told me that they just put a pool in their yard (in ground). It took all my strength to bite my tongue.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 14, 2024 22:03:15 GMT
Insurance is expensive. I think most of us would rather not spend so much for insurance that we may or may not need. I know I have many other thinks that I could spend that money on. I could have a nicer house, go on a vacation, save more, and so on. But we are responsible and pay for the insurance. It seems to me that the responsible thing for Mary Lou Retton to do would have been to get a less expensive house so she could also afford the insurance. Or get a job that would help with that if needed. Last year I was talking to another parent who was complaining about health care costs and that she “might have to get a formal job” rather than be self employed because of insurance costs. They were uninsured and she had some health problems. So she was trying to make it look like they had less income so they could qualify for medical assistance. And in the next part of the conversation she told me that they just put a pool in their yard (in ground). It took all my strength to bite my tongue. t That would be hard. If you have 75K minimum for a pool you can afford insurance it’s just not something we want to spend it on. Insurance is expensive but not having it can be devastating if you need it. Obviously most people won’t be able to do what she did to raise money to pay her bills.
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Post by Merge on Jan 14, 2024 22:26:14 GMT
So I hadn't really kept up with this story, but apparently Houston's own Mattress Mack, the furniture store owner and vocal Trump/Abbott supporter and donor, donated $50K to MLR's medical costs. www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/12/mary-lou-rettons-biggest-donor-is-famed-mattress-store-owner-whos-helped-hurricane-victims-and-trump/He commented that we should help people out when they need it. I feel compelled to note that both he and MLR support politicians and policies that keep poor people from receiving medical care and other assistance. Actual poor people, not wealthy athletes who blew through all their money and/or didn't want to spend what they have on insurance. Having a hard time finding any sympathy.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 15, 2024 13:28:24 GMT
Insurance is expensive. I think most of us would rather not spend so much for insurance that we may or may not need. I know I have many other thinks that I could spend that money on. I could have a nicer house, go on a vacation, save more, and so on. But we are responsible and pay for the insurance. It seems to me that the responsible thing for Mary Lou Retton to do would have been to get a less expensive house so she could also afford the insurance. Or get a job that would help with that if needed. It's hard being a grownup. You saw what could happen down the road and sucked it up. A large percentage of athletes are broke just a few years after their highest earning years because they've never been taught to manage money and they think their big paychecks are enough to sustain a lavish lifestyle forever. MLR was probably in debt up to her eyes, even before the illness. Big house, no income, couple of mortgages, serious illness. Financial disaster.
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Post by auntkelly on Jan 15, 2024 17:31:50 GMT
I would never give money to someone to pay for medical bills. If someone is intensive care for even a few days any amount I donate won't make a dent in the amount owed, even if I donate $10,000. Plus, if I donate to an individual there is no accounting as to how they spend the money. If they buy a new couch six months later, I have no idea if they applied the money I gave them to their hospital bills or made a down payment on their new couch.
I would give money to a family whose loved one was in the hospital if I thought they needed it to pay for things like parking fees at the hospital, meals at the hospital cafeteria, etc. Families will have a lot of extra expenses when a loved one is in the hospital for an extended period of time and I am happy to help w/ those expenses.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 15, 2024 18:11:35 GMT
So I hadn't really kept up with this story, but apparently Houston's own Mattress Mack, the furniture store owner and vocal Trump/Abbott supporter and donor, donated $50K to MLR's medical costs. www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/12/mary-lou-rettons-biggest-donor-is-famed-mattress-store-owner-whos-helped-hurricane-victims-and-trump/He commented that we should help people out when they need it. I feel compelled to note that both he and MLR support politicians and policies that keep poor people from receiving medical care and other assistance. Actual poor people, not wealthy athletes who blew through all their money and/or didn't want to spend what they have on insurance. Having a hard time finding any sympathy. Some people really enjoy appointing themselves arbiters of the worthy.
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Post by Merge on Jan 15, 2024 18:20:01 GMT
So I hadn't really kept up with this story, but apparently Houston's own Mattress Mack, the furniture store owner and vocal Trump/Abbott supporter and donor, donated $50K to MLR's medical costs. www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/12/mary-lou-rettons-biggest-donor-is-famed-mattress-store-owner-whos-helped-hurricane-victims-and-trump/He commented that we should help people out when they need it. I feel compelled to note that both he and MLR support politicians and policies that keep poor people from receiving medical care and other assistance. Actual poor people, not wealthy athletes who blew through all their money and/or didn't want to spend what they have on insurance. Having a hard time finding any sympathy. Some people really enjoy appointing themselves arbiters of the worthy. If you want to donate to her, be my guest.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 15, 2024 18:21:41 GMT
Some people really enjoy appointing themselves arbiters of the worthy. If you want to donate to her, be my guest. ? I was talking about the people who don't want government programs that go to everyone, but want to pick and choose who is worthy of basic support.
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Post by Merge on Jan 15, 2024 18:28:49 GMT
If you want to donate to her, be my guest. ? I was talking about the people who don't want government programs that go to everyone, but want to pick and choose who is worthy of basic support. My apologies. I read it as a snarky way of saying that *I* was trying to be the arbiter of whether or not she was worthy of support. Sorry for misunderstanding.
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