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Post by epeanymous on Nov 21, 2023 17:42:46 GMT
I have had kids in K-12 for 16 years now; usually the elementary schools close for Thanksgiving week for parent/teacher conferences, but the middle and high schools are in session. This year, my high-schooler is off tomorrow for parent/teacher conferences.
Here is my question. My three middle schoolers are telling me that most of their teachers have told them not to come to class tomorrow; I've also seen a bunch of teachers on TikTok posting that kids shouldn't come to school (some for tomorrow, some for this whole week). Is this a new thing? I don't care at all--a day off of school sounds peachy to me this week--but I don't remember this being a thing before this year.
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Post by Merge on Nov 21, 2023 18:45:52 GMT
That's going to be a district by district thing. Our district has no school this week at all (no conferences, either).
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Post by kristalina on Nov 21, 2023 18:46:28 GMT
It's been so long since my kids were in school but that just sounds weird. Why would a teacher say that if school was in session? I am confused...
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Post by snyder on Nov 21, 2023 18:50:17 GMT
It wasn't a thing for years and years in our school district, but it was changed when my kid was in middle school about 25 years ago. They said that the attendance the day before Thanksgiving was less than 50% because so many took their kids out of school to travel for the holiday. They were closed Wed, Thurs and Fri for quite sometime, but now close for the whole week because of scanty attendance.
Our semesters end right before Christmas break, and teacher conferences are held in Jan.
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Post by aprilfay21 on Nov 21, 2023 19:10:37 GMT
This is going to vary by district. I'm 41 and in my entire life I've never, nor have my kids, gone to school Thanksgiving week. We're out from half day Friday to the following Monday.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 21, 2023 19:43:40 GMT
Our local schools were off Election week, because it was also teacher convention time..
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 21, 2023 19:44:56 GMT
Is this the teachers way of making for an easy day and hopefully having those days off next year? Seems irresponsible to me to encourage kids to skip school.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 21, 2023 19:47:28 GMT
My kids are now in college, but they always had the entire week of Thanksgiving off.
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Post by dewryce on Nov 21, 2023 20:04:26 GMT
Do you mean they’re encouraging your children to skip a scheduled school day?
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Post by Bridget in MD on Nov 21, 2023 20:16:41 GMT
Public schools were open Mon/Tues this week. My DS's (private) school "earned" 2 days off due to a fundraiser/raffle, meeting that goal was an award. My DD is in college, and her university was supposed to be off WEd, Thurs, Friday. However, Univ of MD has had a rough semester. A student jumped from the top of the football stadium and apparently there were a lot of witnesses, and mental health services were slammed already. Also having a large population of Jewish students, and being close to DC, there has been a lot of activity (marches, protests etc) concerning Israel & Palestine. last week, UMD decided to give them the whole week off. (Well, technically classes were online on Monday, but cancelled on Tues).
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Post by pantsonfire on Nov 21, 2023 20:26:34 GMT
If there is school scheduled, kids should attend.
Why would teachers want to miss out on ADA funding?? WTH.
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 21, 2023 20:34:23 GMT
If there is school scheduled, kids should attend. Why would teachers want to miss out on ADA funding?? WTH.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 21, 2023 20:41:14 GMT
Do you mean they’re encouraging your children to skip a scheduled school day? Yes!
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Post by caangel on Nov 21, 2023 20:48:34 GMT
Do you mean they’re encouraging your children to skip a scheduled school day? Yes! They can encourage it all they want but the student would still be marked as absent if it is an official school day on the district calendar. Like many above our district has the whole week off. In the district I used to teach in, we only had Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off. But we had a whole week off in February around the presidents birthday holiday. The district we are in only has a 4-day weekend in February instead of a whole week off.
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 21, 2023 20:52:36 GMT
My kids either went to school all week or had that Wednesday off. I don’t ever remember them having the whole week off. (ES in Alabama, northern Virginia, and Boston, MS in Boston and northern Virginia, HS in northern Virginia). I know in HS, the school looked sideways on the day before a holiday since they are days of low attendance. But yeah, the funding…
I wonder if it’s the teachers’ way of protesting not having the day/week off? Especially if they have had it off in the past.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 21, 2023 21:01:13 GMT
Not a teacher but we only get Wednesday through Friday off here. When I was growing up we only had Thursday and Friday off, until I was in college. Conferences are in October.
My DS (magnet) middle/high school sometimes does "day of service days" on the day before Winter vacation and on the last day of school, it's a school day but they spend it cleaning and doing other stuff instead of classes, probably because so many kids miss those two days.
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Post by dewryce on Nov 21, 2023 21:04:51 GMT
Do you mean they’re encouraging your children to skip a scheduled school day? Yes! Hm. Okay then. They may be doing it because it’s easier for them or they want to protest working that day or many other reasons. But I can’t help but think they wouldn’t encourage children to skip if it would make things easier for parents, but harder for them. Like it will make it harder for those parents who work on Wednesday but the kids are insisting teacher said not to go to school. Or the ones that planned on having that day child free to get ready for the 20 people coming over the next day. I dunno, it doesn’t sit right with me. And I’d be the first ones to back teachers up for any number of things. I’ll acknowledge that maybe there are good reasons for this, I just can’t think of them off the top of my head.
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Post by workingclassdog on Nov 21, 2023 21:32:33 GMT
As long as I can remember my kids were out this whole week. From elementary through high school. If I can remember myself I feel like we were out of school all week as well, but not 100% sure, you know way back in the stone age.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 21, 2023 22:08:52 GMT
As a kid in WV, we had the whole week off. Thanksgiving week doubled as the first week of deer season, so most of the boys would have been out in the woods whether there was school or not,
I taught in NC and VA, and we had the whole week of in both places.
We lived in the Orlando area 24 years ago, and I’m pretty sure DD had the whole week off. We traveled north for the holidays and left mid-week. I am pretty sure we did not take her out of school to do so.
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Post by katybee on Nov 21, 2023 22:17:41 GMT
I’ve always had the whole week off—both in Texas and here in California.
I would imagine, that if we did have school this week, many students would miss. Many families travel for Thanksgiving. So, as a teacher, I would not plan ANY first instruction that I knew a large number of kids would miss. So I would do review, busy work and “fluff”. So—yeah—if my students were old enough—I wouldn’t care if they came or not. I don’t know if I would go so far as to tell them not to come—but I wouldn’t be sad if they didn’t.
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Post by pantsonfire on Nov 21, 2023 22:19:04 GMT
In my area of CA, schools had only Thursday and Friday off. Same for most colleges and universities. Still that way for many.
Then most schools went year around and it stayed. With track C having half of November off through all of December. Parents on that track loved that.
So when schools went back to traditional track, districts decided to give 1 week for Fall break, 3 for Winter (instead of 2), and 2 for Spring (instead of 1).
Dd was in K the last year district had year around. 1st grade is when it went back to traditional (so 14 years ago).
Dd's college switched to full week off during Covid and kept it.
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Post by katybee on Nov 21, 2023 22:19:22 GMT
Hm. Okay then. They may be doing it because it’s easier for them or they want to protest working that day or many other reasons. But I can’t help but think they wouldn’t encourage children to skip if it would make things easier for parents, but harder for them. Like it will make it harder for those parents who work on Wednesday but the kids are insisting teacher said not to go to school. Or the ones that planned on having that day child free to get ready for the 20 people coming over the next day. I dunno, it doesn’t sit right with me. And I’d be the first ones to back teachers up for any number of things. I’ll acknowledge that maybe there are good reasons for this, I just can’t think of them off the top of my head. Most middle and high schoolers can take care of themselves. Elementary—sure—that would be harder to deal with.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 21, 2023 22:20:21 GMT
If it is a school day, the kids should attend school.
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Post by katybee on Nov 21, 2023 22:22:12 GMT
Also—most districts have gone to having the whole week off because of the high number of absences. Districts lose BIG ADA money. They figure it’s better to go later in the summer (when they will get higher attendance rates) than Thanksgiving week (when so many kids are out).
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Post by cecilia on Nov 21, 2023 22:22:27 GMT
In K-12, we were in school the M/Tu of Thanksgiving week.
For college, I went to a heavily commuter/non traditional school. We had classes scheduled MTuW of Thanksgiving week. Most professors cancelled either Wednesday classes or the entire week.
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Post by pantsonfire on Nov 21, 2023 22:22:52 GMT
Just looked at my CSU I graduated from and it is still Thursday and Friday off. They attend M-W.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 21, 2023 22:23:18 GMT
My kids have school Monday through Wednesday this week. Pretty sure that is always how it is.
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Post by lilacgal on Nov 21, 2023 22:27:17 GMT
I’ve had parents ask me about if they needed to come in the day(s) before break. For example, we have our class Christmas party on a Thursday. Friday is a half day, and we usually attend Mass. Parents ask me every year if they’ll miss anything if they don’t come. No, they’re not going to miss anything. It’s the day before break, kids are out, and I’m not about to introduce a new topic under those conditions. It’s all review, and I don’t want any papers to grade. Do I tell my kids not to come? Am I honest when I’m asked if they’re going to miss stuff? Yes, some review but nothing critical.
This is the first year we’ve had the two days before Thanksgiving off for conferences. (Ridiculously late if you ask me but that’s a different topic.) I abhor teaching on these two days. With a two day week, we don’t have a reading, spelling, or grammar unit. It seems small to some but those are grounding for our weekly schedule. Off schedule, impending vacation, and holiday excitement makes these two days so rough to teach. It’s all review and games (educational ones!) to keep them busy and hopefully engaged.
I wish I could tell the parents to just keep their kids home. Yes, it’s an absence. I’m not at a public school so it matters less unfortunately. We don’t have excused vs unexcused absences. If they decide to keep their child at home, it’s one less squirrelly third grader I need to worry about on a day we can’t get much done on anyway.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 21, 2023 22:56:12 GMT
If there is school scheduled, kids should attend. Why would teachers want to miss out on ADA funding?? WTH. not all funding is tied to daily attendance...Colorado only counts one day. Op, no. Teachers should not actively tell students not to go to school
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Post by pilcas on Nov 21, 2023 23:59:27 GMT
We only get Thursday and Friday off. Attendance is usually down that Weds. as for telling students not come, it would not go down well with administration. Bottom line the teacher is getting paid for that day so it’s not very ethical to tell kids not to come to school.
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