casii
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Post by casii on Jan 19, 2024 18:42:20 GMT
And by recently, I mean last year. Period Products FINALLY tested with bloodThe article isn't letting me copy and paste nicely, but surprise surprise, it found that products are not nearly as absorbent as manufacturers claim. Turns out that blue water isn't the equivalent of menstrual blood.
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Post by Merge on Jan 19, 2024 18:43:08 GMT
I'm shocked. And also so glad I don't have to deal with that anymore.
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Post by casii on Jan 19, 2024 18:50:27 GMT
I'm shocked. And also so glad I don't have to deal with that anymore. At least now you know you weren't crazy when their 10 hour absorbency product barely lasted the car ride to work. I can't wait to be done with my period.
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Post by Tearisci on Jan 19, 2024 19:19:13 GMT
Yeah, those super absorbent pads were definitely not the length of time they said they were. I'd have to wear three at night and pray!
Glad those days are behind me now!
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Post by Merge on Jan 19, 2024 19:26:48 GMT
I'm shocked. And also so glad I don't have to deal with that anymore. At least now you know you weren't crazy when their 10 hour absorbency product barely lasted the car ride to work. I can't wait to be done with my period. Fibroids. Fibroids cause a flow that heavy. Hysterectomy was the best thing I ever did for myself.
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Post by leeny on Jan 19, 2024 20:17:24 GMT
At least now you know you weren't crazy when their 10 hour absorbency product barely lasted the car ride to work. I can't wait to be done with my period. Fibroids. Fibroids cause a flow that heavy. Hysterectomy was the best thing I ever did for myself. Same experience and outcome!
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jan 19, 2024 20:20:29 GMT
Any woman could have guessed that. I complained to Always when they "improved" their product once to the point I have to change brands because it wasn't absorbing. I never complain about anything.
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Post by lesley on Jan 19, 2024 20:23:01 GMT
At least now you know you weren't crazy when their 10 hour absorbency product barely lasted the car ride to work. I can't wait to be done with my period. Fibroids. Fibroids cause a flow that heavy. Hysterectomy was the best thing I ever did for myself. Yup, the exact same problem and outcome. The hysterectomy was a huge relief.
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Post by busy on Jan 19, 2024 20:30:07 GMT
I mean… how exactly would they do industrial manufacturing scale testing with blood?
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Post by Zee on Jan 19, 2024 20:56:52 GMT
I mean… how exactly would they do industrial manufacturing scale testing with blood? The obvious question I came to ask. I don't know how they are testing it now unless they're somehow having real women measured these things scientifically. Otherwise, it's all anecdotal. And I don't care how much they say will be absorbed, as obviously our experiences will differ anyway.
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Post by finsup on Jan 19, 2024 21:19:23 GMT
I mean… how exactly would they do industrial manufacturing scale testing with blood? The obvious question I came to ask. I don't know how they are testing it now unless they're somehow having real women measured these things scientifically. Otherwise, it's all anecdotal. And I don't care how much they say will be absorbed, as obviously our experiences will differ anyway. I had the same question so I looked at the article and it said they used packed red blood cells. Still not as viscous as real period blood but closer than water I guess. I can’t work up any outrage over the fact that blood is only now being used. It’s not like I was looking for anything more specific than super, regular and light.
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Post by busy on Jan 19, 2024 21:49:07 GMT
I’d rather blood products go to medical purposes, personally.
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Post by Zee on Jan 19, 2024 22:06:12 GMT
The obvious question I came to ask. I don't know how they are testing it now unless they're somehow having real women measured these things scientifically. Otherwise, it's all anecdotal. And I don't care how much they say will be absorbed, as obviously our experiences will differ anyway. I had the same question so I looked at the article and it said they used packed red blood cells. Still not as viscous as real period blood but closer than water I guess. I can’t work up any outrage over the fact that blood is only now being used. It’s not like I was looking for anything more specific than super, regular and light. Blood from where? People? Pigs? Expired blood bank blood? Menstrual blood vs fresh blood? Has it been preserved? Have heparin added? How much is needed to have conclusive data? Why is that necessary, honestly? Does anyone look at a box and see "this one will hold 50ml, I'm sure it's going to be a 200ml sort of day" and size up? Is this testing being conducted by a 3rd party? Did someone wake up one day and say, hey, I am tired of only getting the Blue Water side of the data story here. I need ACTUAL BLOOD RESULTS IN ORDER TO LIVE MY LIFE, and then spearheaded a movement for actual blood testing? I have a lot of questions...
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 19, 2024 22:12:07 GMT
From someone who could go through two XL tampons and an xl pad in less than an hour, I am surprised... a bit. I had to carry extra clothes in my car and keep them at work. When it matters, it matters.
I guess if you just have a normal period, this doesn't matter as much since you know by now what generally works and what doesn't, but when you really need protection (because your hysterectomy sin't for 6 weeks), it would be nice if products were as reliable as possible.
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Post by Zee on Jan 19, 2024 22:37:21 GMT
From someone who could go through two XL tampons and an xl pad in less than an hour, I am surprised... a bit. I had to carry extra clothes in my car and keep them at work. When it matters, it matters. I guess if you just have a normal period, this doesn't matter as much since you know by now what generally works and what doesn't, but when you really need protection (because your hysterectomy sin't for 6 weeks), it would be nice if products were as reliable as possible. I just kept a full supply on me at all times until I had my hysterectomy. It was awful! A super plus would barely last 30 minutes for the first couple days. I had to also use a pad. So...I guess I'm not sure why there needs to be blood testing. Buy super, light, etc. I had a box of each size every month. The first thing I did after my hysterectomy was skip down the tampon aisle and not buy a thing. I was still finding extra tampons in unused purses for like a year 🥴
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 19, 2024 22:42:16 GMT
I mean… how exactly would they do industrial manufacturing scale testing with blood? Import blood donated from foreign countries. Also perhaps our blood supply that “cannot be used” could be given to a pharmaceutical company for product testing. I am just coming up with potential ideas. I worked at Red Cross in Japan and one of my students needed a placenta. The blood bank was literally one floor below.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 19, 2024 22:43:47 GMT
I offered him my placenta but there was too much drama surrounding ds’ birth and I said to just get rid of it. The researchers were my students.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 19, 2024 23:24:33 GMT
From someone who could go through two XL tampons and an xl pad in less than an hour, I am surprised... a bit. I had to carry extra clothes in my car and keep them at work. When it matters, it matters. I guess if you just have a normal period, this doesn't matter as much since you know by now what generally works and what doesn't, but when you really need protection (because your hysterectomy sin't for 6 weeks), it would be nice if products were as reliable as possible. I just kept a full supply on me at all times until I had my hysterectomy. It was awful! A super plus would barely last 30 minutes for the first couple days. I had to also use a pad. So...I guess I'm not sure why there needs to be blood testing. Buy super, light, etc. I had a box of each size every month. The first thing I did after my hysterectomy was skip down the tampon aisle and not buy a thing. I was still finding extra tampons in unused purses for like a year 🥴 I said the only thing that would have worked was a sheep. I was teaching and leaving my room was a challenge. A clot the size of a lemon left me sprinting out of the room with a panicked face to my teammate hoping she'd cover for me. She always did. Comparing water to period blood just doesn't work though. I still have to imagine that if men had periods, this would have been a much thought out product.
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Post by lucyg on Jan 20, 2024 3:13:00 GMT
Fibroids. Fibroids cause a flow that heavy. Hysterectomy was the best thing I ever did for myself. Yup, the exact same problem and outcome. The hysterectomy was a huge relief. Endometrial ablation solved my problem. I never had another period until menopause, 12 years later. ETA I mean, I never had another period, period.
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 20, 2024 3:30:40 GMT
Seems like a great science project, but would be too taboo. Could you mimic a blood product to test absorbancy? I used to work at a Cord Blood Bank and so many regulations. If one of the freezers went down had to document cords that were discarded and also, there's a shelf life of use of cord blood that's effective, especially the amount/size of cord blood collected. There was difficulty in obtaining blood for positive/negative controls for specific assays for quality control of techniques and machines.
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Post by Merge on Jan 20, 2024 3:52:34 GMT
I just kept a full supply on me at all times until I had my hysterectomy. It was awful! A super plus would barely last 30 minutes for the first couple days. I had to also use a pad. So...I guess I'm not sure why there needs to be blood testing. Buy super, light, etc. I had a box of each size every month. The first thing I did after my hysterectomy was skip down the tampon aisle and not buy a thing. I was still finding extra tampons in unused purses for like a year 🥴 I said the only thing that would have worked was a sheep. I was teaching and leaving my room was a challenge. A clot the size of a lemon left me sprinting out of the room with a panicked face to my teammate hoping she'd cover for me. She always did. Comparing water to period blood just doesn't work though. I still have to imagine that if men had periods, this would have been a much thought out product. There’s nothing quite like standing in front of a classroom full of kids and feeling that gush and slither, is there? 😂🤢
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 20, 2024 4:01:56 GMT
I said the only thing that would have worked was a sheep. I was teaching and leaving my room was a challenge. A clot the size of a lemon left me sprinting out of the room with a panicked face to my teammate hoping she'd cover for me. She always did. Comparing water to period blood just doesn't work though. I still have to imagine that if men had periods, this would have been a much thought out product. There’s nothing quite like standing in front of a classroom full of kids and feeling that gush and slither, is there? 😂🤢 Yes, and walking in the cross walk to pick up your kids and there's an absolute gush. I had to get a blood transfusion before my hysterectomy because of blood loss from fibroids. Women should not have to deal with this.
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Post by Merge on Jan 20, 2024 4:38:24 GMT
There’s nothing quite like standing in front of a classroom full of kids and feeling that gush and slither, is there? 😂🤢 Yes, and walking in the cross walk to pick up your kids and there's an absolute gush. I had to get a blood transfusion before my hysterectomy because of blood loss from fibroids. Women should not have to deal with this. As someone else (maybe you?) said above, if men had to deal with this, there would be multiple low-cost solutions for it by now. It’s ridiculous.
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 20, 2024 4:54:19 GMT
Still surprised to see all of the "free" products popping up at schools and other shops. When I first witnessed this I felt bad about using it because it was free. I hope the free products continue to every where.
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Post by artbabe on Jan 20, 2024 15:59:12 GMT
Still surprised to see all of the "free" products popping up at schools and other shops. When I first witnessed this I felt bad about using it because it was free. I hope the free products continue to every where. I see that in a lot of breweries in my city. It is weird how almost every brewery has free supplies but very few bars/restaurants do yet. We have a Columbus-based company called Aunt Flow that puts free vending machines in restrooms around here. I was really happy when I first saw them, and I am in menopause. It seems so dumb to me that all these years men have been putting these products on the market without accurately testing them. Periods are not like water, at all. There had to be some way to test them with blood. Boy, I am so glad I don't have to deal with that crap anymore.
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Post by christine58 on Jan 20, 2024 16:33:57 GMT
I offered him my placenta but there was too much drama surrounding ds’ birth and I said to just get rid of it. The researchers were my students. Your students?
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Post by sueg on Jan 20, 2024 18:18:32 GMT
I mean… how exactly would they do industrial manufacturing scale testing with blood? Import blood donated from foreign countries. Also perhaps our blood supply that “cannot be used” could be given to a pharmaceutical company for product testing. I am just coming up with potential ideas. I worked at Red Cross in Japan and one of my students needed a placenta. The blood bank was literally one floor below. I just have too respond to this, as it has me shaking my head in disbelief. Firstly - do you really think there are 'foreign countries' with blood to spare? where do you envision this 'foreign' blood coming from? Secondly - development and manufacturing of period products happens all over the world. This is the industry my DH is in - he works for a Swedish based company that it one of the largest manufacturers worldwide of personal hygiene products. Not just period needs, but diapers, incontinence, toilet paper, tissues and the like. They have manufacturing sites everywhere: Many European countries, India, Australia, Mexico and Colombia among them, as well as the US and Canada. Are these some of the 'foreign' countries you see donating blood? Oh, and it’s not pharmaceutical companies making these products either. I would think it is far more likely that any testing with blood would use animal blood.
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Post by casii on Jan 20, 2024 21:06:48 GMT
I continue to be flummoxed that women would be okay with having products that, let's be honest, are expensive and don't fulfill their promise. Most of us are even taxed on them! Women deserve better.
I'm one of those who would assert that if men had periods, not only would the research and development of period products be top notch but men would be delivered a bespoke box monthly for their needs as well as having PTO.
I said something to friends and they got all icked out. It's a period folks and over half the population are female. I'm done with the taboo talking about it. One friend works for Kimberly-Clarke in distribution and she got really defensive for the company when I brought it up.
I dunno, maybe have test groups when developing new products. Distribute items for testing in exchange for a reasonable stipend and product feedback. It's not rocket science.
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Post by Merge on Jan 20, 2024 21:20:00 GMT
I feel certain that with all the scientific advances we’ve made in the last several decades, someone could have and may already have invented a product that more closely mimics the behavior of period blood than plain water does. No actual blood needed. It just wasn’t seen as important for this purpose.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 20, 2024 21:44:24 GMT
I'm shocked. And also so glad I don't have to deal with that anymore. At least now you know you weren't crazy when their 10 hour absorbency product barely lasted the car ride to work. I can't wait to be done with my period. It is the best thing EVER. And I maintain that if men had periods, there would be a way to stop them when they decided they were done having kids and there would be ways to control flow and cramps.
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