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Post by gillyp on Jan 26, 2024 13:34:52 GMT
Now there’s a contentious question, if ever I raised one. There have been a couple of threads this week where a non European Pea has said European butter is better than US and a different Pea said European Tea is better than the US. So, what else do we do better than the US? Cheese? Chocolate?? What about our Southern Hemisphere friends? Is there anything they can beat us at? ROFL For the avoidance of doubt, this is entirely meant to be lighthearted and a trivial weekend post. My hard hat and flak jacket are currently at the dry cleaners.
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keithurbanlovinpea
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jan 26, 2024 14:02:47 GMT
I think European chocolate is far superior to US chocolate. I can't stand Hershey's and the like. I'd rather eat dirt than cheap, American chocolate
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Post by lisae on Jan 26, 2024 14:05:04 GMT
Yes, the Europeans are far better at chocolate than Americans.
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Jan 26, 2024 14:14:42 GMT
Very expressive cursing.
Sarcasm.
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Jan 26, 2024 14:30:18 GMT
Public transportation
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 26, 2024 14:53:29 GMT
I think European chocolate is far superior to US chocolate. I can't stand Hershey's and the like. I'd rather eat dirt than cheap, American chocolate omg yes, American chocolate is waxy at best, and sometimes chalky too. However, our mini-Cadbury eggs with the crunchy shell are the bomb.com and I will fight anyone who says they are gross (including my 2 kids, who say they are gross! LMAO)
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 26, 2024 14:54:06 GMT
I was thinking police procedurals.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 26, 2024 14:55:55 GMT
Yes, the Europeans are far better at chocolate than Americans. Yet I’ll happily eat Reese’s PB cups when the craving strikes and I know a lot of young people here who prefer Hersheys, especially white cookies and cream.
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Post by peano on Jan 26, 2024 15:11:16 GMT
I was thinking police procedurals. Yes!!! 1000X yes! I'm literally addicted to British police procedurals. Many solid female protagonists, a decided lack of macho posturing, intelligent writing, few guns, the devastating but subtle British wit to counteract the grim storylines.
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Post by busy on Jan 26, 2024 15:13:08 GMT
There are some absolutely excellent cheeses in the US, but they are from small makers and local/regional. National brands are not good.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 26, 2024 15:16:27 GMT
I think European chocolate is far superior to US chocolate. I can't stand Hershey's and the like. I'd rather eat dirt than cheap, American chocolate Hershey's is way too sweet and doesn't have that smooth creamy "mouth feel" thing going on.
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Post by MZF on Jan 26, 2024 15:25:56 GMT
Beer. I can't drink beer in the US, even European brands in the US. But when we were overseas, the beer in Germany and Spain was quite tasty to me.
And vacationing--seems many(that we've met) take longer, leisurely vacations. So we tried in on our last big trip--6 weeks in Europe, mostly planned ourselves at a more leisurely pace. It was wonderful, and we are going again in April/May.
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Post by peano on Jan 26, 2024 15:47:55 GMT
Several of my friends tell me American winemakers put all kinds of preservatives and crap in their wines (because things aren't as regulated over here) that give them headaches, etc. I don't buy domestic wine.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jan 26, 2024 15:57:22 GMT
Beach bars in Spain (chiringuitos).
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Post by katlady on Jan 26, 2024 16:24:28 GMT
I don’t like Hershey’s, but I do love Lindor Truffles. They are made by a European company, Lindt, but at a US factory. I also like Milka chocolate. See’s chocolate (American) is pretty good too.
I don’t drink black tea too much, so I can’t comment on the tea debate. 😆
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Post by ntsf on Jan 26, 2024 17:10:23 GMT
prisons, healthcare (for covering everyone).. education.. northern european countries.
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Post by busy on Jan 26, 2024 18:23:55 GMT
Beer. I can't drink beer in the US, even European brands in the US. But when we were overseas, the beer in Germany and Spain was quite tasty to me. Could not disagree more. There is so much outstanding American beer and European beer is not nearly as interesting IMO.
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Post by malibou on Jan 26, 2024 18:32:11 GMT
Looking at cheese as a whole, Europe is definitely out making us in that department. There are certainly some brilliant cheeses make here, but over there its hard to find a crappy one.
Advertisements are actually worth reading/paying attention to as they can be hilariously punny in ways that would have panties in a wad in the states.
I'm not a fancy tea drinker, I just like a cuppa. I cannot say any cup stands out anywhere unless you factor in location. 😉
Lamb and the fantastic array of cuts you have in Europe far outshine the US.
If we are comparing the crappy beer of the masses, I will vote European beers - especially German beer, as the better beer. However, where craft beer is concerned, this beer snob will tell you that the US beer is knocking it out of the park!
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Post by anniebeth24 on Jan 26, 2024 20:09:41 GMT
Europe definitely beats the U.S. in the category of crusty bread.
In my part of the Midwest, I can not find a proper baguette anywhere. In France, they're in vending machines!
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Post by librarylady on Jan 26, 2024 20:23:12 GMT
I came home from Europe really bummed out at the US public transportation system (or lack thereof).
Then I remembered: #1. Europe had a head start of a couple of hundred years to develop a system and #2. The US is so much larger that it complicates the matter.
US was doing well with a railroad infrastructure until automobiles were introduced. Then the US focused on increasing the use of autos and abandoned the railroads. Many cities in the south don't have public transportation, or it is so inconvenient as to make it impossible to use for the purposes of going to work. For example: I live in Dallas, just one street outside the Dallas city limits. At one time, I worked across the city. If I had attempted to ride the bus to work, it would have taken me several hours in each direction. I worked for 10 years in another suburb and there is not public transportation to get me to that location.
We do have light rail now. If I had a job in certain parts of the city, I could ride the train.
There is not a bus or train that would take me to the medical center where my doctors are located. There is not a bus or train service to where any of my friends live.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 26, 2024 20:27:46 GMT
I think part of the problem with US products is the mega corporations are being compared to much smaller ones in Europe. There are excellent, cheese, beer and chocolate producers in the US - but people are comparing Kraft, Budweiser and Hershey which all suck.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 26, 2024 20:30:02 GMT
Now one thing Europe does much better is espresso - I haven't found any US establishment that makes anything like an espresso in France or Italy.
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Post by Zee on Jan 26, 2024 20:47:15 GMT
First of all--Americans of a certain age were brought up to believe that European things are far more glamorous and fashionable and better than American things. This goes all the way back to colonial times with homemade things vs having things imported from Europe.
So while the products may or may not be better, the perception by many, if not most, Americans will be that if it's from Europe it's automatically better. Artisan products here can be every bit as good, but if it's "Irish wool" or "Italian leather" or "Belgian chocolate" etc it's going to be perceived as better than. And artisan products aren't readily available all over. "Made in Europe" automatically makes most Americans assume quality.
Just as almost anything stamped Made In China is deemed lower quality, whether it actually is or isn't. (Fine china and jade would be notable exceptions). In the past it was Taiwan, or Hong Kong, or Mexico.
I will definitely give you that actual champagne, from France, beats out most sparkling wine and prosecco! I had a bottle of Dom for my 50th bday that was divine. I tried to open a bottle of Korbel after it was gone and I couldn't even drink it. Normally Korbel is just fine for my NYE but that year I got spoiled 😁
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Post by Zee on Jan 26, 2024 20:59:08 GMT
Here's a few things America does better: Kitchens Dryers, apparently, since everyone here stated they have to line dry things Ice! Goddammit if I order a cranberry and vodka I expect it to have more than 3 lonely cubes floating around. Microbreweries Heat and AC 🙂 Ketchup and yellow mustard
Seems like a lot of things America used to do really well, like denim and furniture and cars and cotton fabrics and leather goods and appliances and steel etc etc were outsourced to other countries long ago in the name of making higher profits.
It's hard to even find American made products but I definitely support them when possible. Supporting local artisans is also something I enjoy.
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Post by lesley on Jan 27, 2024 1:58:40 GMT
Here's a few things America does better: Kitchens Dryers, apparently, since everyone here stated they have to line dry things Ice! Goddammit if I order a cranberry and vodka I expect it to have more than 3 lonely cubes floating around. Microbreweries Heat and AC 🙂 Ketchup and yellow mustard Seems like a lot of things America used to do really well, like denim and furniture and cars and cotton fabrics and leather goods and appliances and steel etc etc were outsourced to other countries long ago in the name of making higher profits. It's hard to even find American made products but I definitely support them when possible. Supporting local artisans is also something I enjoy. I need to disagree with you over a couple of things I’m afraid! I’m confused by kitchens - in most of the house listings I look at, the kitchen are either dark wood or white, and very little in between. In what way are they better? Dryers may be better, but those of us who choose to line dry do so for the cost and the environment. Oh and that gorgeous smell of clothes that have dried in fresh air. (Seriously, my DS's GF laughed at me hanging out clothes to dry, but was completely won over by how naturally fresh they smelled!😁) And ketchup? Nope.
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Post by quiltz on Jan 27, 2024 2:07:15 GMT
Well, apparently I am on a roll, so I will say that Canada has the best ICE WINE as our climate ensures a yearly harvest.
Maple syrup is also excellent and the Americans make a great maple syrup as well.
The chocolate recipes for Hershey chocolate is different in Canada than in the USA. Canada has stricter requirements for the ingredients and won't allow some of the additives.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 27, 2024 2:42:52 GMT
Let me start off by mentioning the things I think the US does better: mashed potato brisket, and BBQ meat in general mac & cheese The very first thing that comes to mind, that Australia does better than the US, is COFFEE. Every single person I know who has been to the US comments on three things: the very generous serving sizes of food, the free soda refills, and the SHIT coffee! We Melburnians take our coffee very seriously, so anything less than freshly ground beans is a big no-no. Especially if it's that muddy ditchwater that's been sitting in a pot all day. Chocolate is an interesting discussion. I agree that Hersheys is very ordinary. But I LOVE Butterfinger bars, which I can't get here unless I go to a specialty lolly shop that sells US candy and chocolate. We had a girl from the UK working with us a few years ago. She told me that UK Cadbury chocolate is much better than Australian Cadbury chocolate. She then found some UK Cadbury chocolate in a specialty shop, and proudly brought it into work for me to try. And honestly? I preferred The Australian stuff. I guess it's because I've eaten Australian Cadbury for 50+ years, and I'm used to it. I didn't think much of the UK stuff in comparison.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 27, 2024 2:48:13 GMT
Dryers, apparently, since everyone here stated they have to line dry things Yes, your clothes dryers are MUCH better, from what I have heard from Merge and several other Americans. But I don't line dry because I "have to", I line dry as often as possible so I'm not using electricity unnecessarily. And when it's too cold or wet to use my clothes line outside, I dry my clothes on a rack over the ducted heating vents.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 27, 2024 2:56:42 GMT
I came home from Europe really bummed out at the US public transportation system (or lack thereof). I came home from Singapore last year thinking that I wish we could scrap our whole train system and start again, using the Singapore model. It really is outstanding.
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Post by Merge on Jan 27, 2024 3:08:12 GMT
I think part of the problem with US products is the mega corporations are being compared to much smaller ones in Europe. There are excellent, cheese, beer and chocolate producers in the US - but people are comparing Kraft, Budweiser and Hershey which all suck. I agree with this. America has long prioritized mass production and widespread availability over quality, though, so if you want quality you have to be willing to look for it (and pay for it). Or make/grow/raise it yourself, of course.
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