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Post by inkedup on Feb 26, 2015 6:50:58 GMT
Travis and I were friends. We went to the same schools (elementary, middle and high school), though I only saw him a couple of times after graduation.
Anyone who ever knew Travis would tell you that there is no way he was abusive and he certainly was not a pedophile. The fact that Jodi Arias was even allowed to put such disgusting - COMPLETELY UNCORROBORATED - claims out into the universe is vile. She attempted to slaughter Travis' character just like she slaughtered him physically.
Obviously, Travis wasn't perfect. He used Jodi for sex when he knew she wanted more out of the relationship than he did. He wasn't the glib Cassanova that Jodi's defense team would have you believe; Travis was actually kind of a dork, even after he became successful. (I say "dork" with affection.) He was just a goofy, normal guy who had no clue that he was tangling with someone as crazy and evil as Jodi.
It drives me crazy to think that the State of Arizona has spent nearly (or over) $3 MILLION dollars to defend this psycho. Think of all the good that could have been done with that money. I'd love for her to receive the death penalty, but I think life in prison is a better solution. It's cheaper (why give her more tax dollars and attention?).
She will never feel actual remorse, but I hope she'll fade away after the verdict comes in. Everyone who knew Travis and who knows his family is tired of this endless saga and especially tired of her name and fucking face.
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Post by inkedup on Feb 26, 2015 6:54:31 GMT
After following the first trial, I thought that Travis wasn't perfect, he led her on (definitely and continually til the end!!) and she happened to have mental issues. When you sleep with a woman again and again, they're going to think that you have a relationship. She couldn't handle hearing otherwise and she killed him. I have no idea why he kept letting this woman into his life if he had a feeling that she was unstable, and then especially have SEX with her. She should have gone with an insanity defense. Classic victim shaming. I doubt you'd say this if the genders were reversed. "After following the first trial, I thought that (the woman) wasn't perfect, (s)he led (him) on.....and (he) happened to have mental issues. When you sleep with a (man) again and again, they're going to think that you have a relationship. (He) couldn't handle hearing otherwise and (he) killed (her). I have no idea why (she) kept letting this (man) into (her) life if (she) had a feeling that (he) was unstable, and then especially have SEX with (him). (He) should have gone with an insanity defense." Was Travis a cad? Absolutely. Does that mean he had it coming? That he deserved to be shot, stabbed and to have his throat slit? And to dismiss what Jodi Arias did by saying that she "happened to have mental issues" is an insult to the MURDER VICTIM and to mentally ill people WHO DO NOT MURDER OTHERS. Mental issues are not an excuse for murder and neither is sleeping with someone you don't intend to marry. I hope you can see how gross and inappropriate your judgments are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 7:18:36 GMT
After following the first trial, I thought that Travis wasn't perfect, he led her on (definitely and continually til the end!!) and she happened to have mental issues. When you sleep with a woman again and again, they're going to think that you have a relationship. She couldn't handle hearing otherwise and she killed him. I have no idea why he kept letting this woman into his life if he had a feeling that she was unstable, and then especially have SEX with her. She should have gone with an insanity defense. Classic victim shaming. I doubt you'd say this if the genders were reversed. "After following the first trial, I thought that (the woman) wasn't perfect, (s)he led (him) on.....and (he) happened to have mental issues. When you sleep with a (man) again and again, they're going to think that you have a relationship. (He) couldn't handle hearing otherwise and (he) killed (her). I have no idea why (she) kept letting this (man) into (her) life if (she) had a feeling that (he) was unstable, and then especially have SEX with (him). (He) should have gone with an insanity defense." Was Travis a cad? Absolutely. Does that mean he had it coming? That he deserved to be shot, stabbed and to have his throat slit? And to dismiss what Jodi Arias did by saying that she "happened to have mental issues" is an insult to the MURDER VICTIM and to mentally ill people WHO DO NOT MURDER OTHERS. Mental issues are not an excuse for murder and neither is sleeping with someone you don't intend to marry. I hope you can see how gross and inappropriate your judgments are. I agree with you and I am absolutely disgusted with her comments! There are NO excuses to what she did. Victim blaming has to go!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 17:27:28 GMT
After following the first trial, I thought that Travis wasn't perfect, he led her on (definitely and continually til the end!!) and she happened to have mental issues. When you sleep with a woman again and again, they're going to think that you have a relationship. She couldn't handle hearing otherwise and she killed him. I have no idea why he kept letting this woman into his life if he had a feeling that she was unstable, and then especially have SEX with her. She should have gone with an insanity defense. Classic victim shaming. I doubt you'd say this if the genders were reversed. "After following the first trial, I thought that (the woman) wasn't perfect, (s)he led (him) on.....and (he) happened to have mental issues. When you sleep with a (man) again and again, they're going to think that you have a relationship. (He) couldn't handle hearing otherwise and (he) killed (her). I have no idea why (she) kept letting this (man) into (her) life if (she) had a feeling that (he) was unstable, and then especially have SEX with (him). (He) should have gone with an insanity defense." Was Travis a cad? Absolutely. Does that mean he had it coming? That he deserved to be shot, stabbed and to have his throat slit? And to dismiss what Jodi Arias did by saying that she "happened to have mental issues" is an insult to the MURDER VICTIM and to mentally ill people WHO DO NOT MURDER OTHERS. Mental issues are not an excuse for murder and neither is sleeping with someone you don't intend to marry. I hope you can see how gross and inappropriate your judgments are. I did NOT say that he "had it coming". I just explained that Travis made grave mistakes. He should have protected himself better. It was a mistake. She was nuts!! Doesn't justify her MURDERING him. (Again), I've experienced a murder in my family. I've spoken about it here many times. DH's nephew was MURDERED by his STBXwife. She snapped. Did he lead her on? Maybe. He was trying to please everyone, but, I still say that she had many, many opportunities to just leave. I know this firsthand. Instead, she stayed, and one night her anger just took over. It was a great loss. Like Travis, this was a great man. He took care of their 3 young children. He was the mother/father (the mother was disabled). But we'd constantly advise him that he should be careful and he should try to divorce in the best way possible. You never know when people will just snap. Shockingly, this crazy woman has tracked us down wherever we live, and tries to speak to DH about it. She doesn't remember a lot about that night, but did remember that they were both very angry, discussing their situation, and she snapped. She's sorry. She's sad. But, again, this could NEVER justify her murdering him and I'm glad she's in prison for a very long time.
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Post by azredhead on Mar 5, 2015 16:09:26 GMT
Just wanted to update they are reading the verdict 9:30am MST. Praying it's not at least deadlocked as they were two days ago. Judge made them go back and diliberate for two more days.ETA - it's not deadlocked it loosks like it is a verdict. They had orginally announced that the decision had been made.
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Post by jumperhop on Mar 5, 2015 16:56:03 GMT
It's almost 10 MST. And I can't find anything on tv
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Post by azredhead on Mar 5, 2015 17:01:10 GMT
It's almost 10 MST. And I can't find anything on tv All of our local feeds are covering it, if you want to go to fox10phoenix.com I think the national media is covering the plane in NY but they are here. They were waiting for jurors.
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Post by azredhead on Mar 5, 2015 17:07:13 GMT
OMGGG!!!! My heart breaks for the Travis family!!!! HUNG JURY!! OMGGG!!!! My heart breaks for the Travis family!!!! HUNG JURY!!
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Mar 5, 2015 17:10:06 GMT
What a shame. I hope that she is forever cut off from internet access. The family has suffered enough.
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Post by jumperhop on Mar 5, 2015 17:14:51 GMT
Oh my goodness poor family. What a shame.
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Post by azredhead on Mar 5, 2015 17:18:53 GMT
I didn't want to put it but it's out there now - so sad I can't believe they couldn't reach a decision again. Now the judge will get to decide.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 17:20:00 GMT
OMG...NOOO!!
So what happens next?
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Post by azredhead on Mar 5, 2015 17:22:16 GMT
@carblover443 Judge Stephens can decide life w/without parole. Death penalty is off the table. The sobs from the family were hard to listen too. They will do it April 13. Her attorneys asked for 30 days.
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Post by conchita on Mar 5, 2015 17:23:25 GMT
I just heard it was a mistrial on the news just now. I can't even imagine what his family must be feeling.
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Post by nylene on Mar 5, 2015 18:01:03 GMT
My heart aches for the Alexander family. It's too bad the penalty couldn't have been imposed today to put an end to it for the survivors. After April 13, I hope we never hear her name in the news again.
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Post by grammanisi on Mar 5, 2015 18:02:47 GMT
I feel so bad for the Alexander family. I'm sure they never thought it would be a hung jury, this time around.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 5, 2015 18:14:45 GMT
I have no problem with her being locked up for the rest of her life. And as the widow of a murder victim, I have to say I don't entirely understand the fixation many victims' families (including many I know personally) have with the death penalty. I want these people out of circulation forever, but executing them doesn't make life better for the survivors, either. It's a totally emotional response, not a practical one in any way.
In my world, we have lost a couple of 1st degree murder convictions over prosecutors (pushed by families) seeking the death penalty. They tried so hard to prove 1st degree murder in a clearly 2nd degree murder case that they turned off the jury completely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 22:31:33 GMT
I am not sad, I am livid. Luckily there WILL be justice on the other side. His poor, sweet family. They had to go through this a SECOND time and for what!?! Not to mention how much it cost my state. I just got on the internet. I can only imagine what will be popping up on my feed. At least she was found guilty. That is more than Casey Anthony was found. This sickens me truly. ONE juror was the holdout. One.damn.juror. It's not fair for his family. It's just not. To be put through another trial, open that wound up again and then have it turn out the same way.
This was on a facebook page:
I have so much to say yet I can't say anything. I'm numb. ONE juror. ONE. All these years, all the support, all the heartache, all the hoping... all for nothing. Jodi Arias won. Travis Alexander lost. Again.
The holdout juror said "the death penalty isn't justice, it's revenge". I recall Jodi Arias saying the exact same thing in a post verdict interview, 2013. I can't remember which interview it was but it gave me chills back then and I got chills when I heard it again today during the jury's presser. I'm certain the holdout watched the same broadcast.
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Post by DinCA on Mar 5, 2015 23:35:45 GMT
I really feel for his family. This result is heartbreaking.
I understand some think life without parole is the best (and worst) punishment for her, but I really hate that she is getting what she wants. I also hate that more resources will be spent on her while she is incarcerated. I also think that we will never hear the end of Jodi Arias. She will make sure of that and that thought makes me ill.
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Post by azredhead on Mar 5, 2015 23:41:57 GMT
It's not so bad that it was not the decision the Alexander family wanted but why and how it happened with an 11-1 results. And what they are reporting about the 1 juror who did not take questions from closed camera interviews and would not deliberate on the last day. I think I would be okay with her live in prison- but only if it were without the possibilty of parole. Although Sherrif Joe has put a block on all and any media interviews etc for her so hopefully that will not put her back in the news, unless something crazy happens.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 5, 2015 23:50:52 GMT
I am not sad, I am livid. Luckily there WILL be justice on the other side. His poor, sweet family. They had to go through this a SECOND time and for what!?! Not to mention how much it cost my state. I just got on the internet. I can only imagine what will be popping up on my feed. At least she was found guilty. That is more than Casey Anthony was found. This sickens me truly. ONE juror was the holdout. One.damn.juror. It's not fair for his family. It's just not. To be put through another trial, open that wound up again and then have it turn out the same way. This was on a facebook page: I have so much to say yet I can't say anything. I'm numb. ONE juror. ONE. All these years, all the support, all the heartache, all the hoping... all for nothing. Jodi Arias won. Travis Alexander lost. Again. The holdout juror said "the death penalty isn't justice, it's revenge". I recall Jodi Arias saying the exact same thing in a post verdict interview, 2013. I can't remember which interview it was but it gave me chills back then and I got chills when I heard it again today during the jury's presser. I'm certain the holdout watched the same broadcast. They did not go through a second trial, only a second penalty phase. The Alexander family didn't lose anything. Jodi Arias has been convicted and is going to prison for life. And if not one but two separate juries were unable to come to a unanimous death penalty verdict, that ought to tell you something important. I think you are taking this very personally. I apologize if you are connected to the family in some way.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 5, 2015 23:53:32 GMT
It's horrible and I can't even begin to imagine what his family must be going through. The article I read today said that she might get life without parole or she could get life with the possibility of parole after 25 years. Don't remember which article it was, but just the thought of her getting out even after 25 years makes me sick. To rule death you have to agree the murder was done in a vicious manner. Well, killing someone the way she did I would say certainly applies, wouldn't you? I can't help but be angry at that hold out juror.
Debbie in MD.
And Lucy I'm so sorry for the loss of your husband. I had no idea.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 6, 2015 0:22:01 GMT
I would hope I could continue to be the one juror who holds out and doesn't change her mind because of pressure from the other jurors. That's how the system is set up.
It concerns me what could happen - in this social media age - if this juror gets so much negative attention.
I actually had no idea who Jodi Arias was until I opened this thread (but now I remember the crime). I don't follow trials like this, but I agree that it's significant that two juries were unable to reach concensus on a sentence.
My sympathies to those Peas who knew the victim.
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Post by CeeScraps on Mar 6, 2015 1:07:54 GMT
I'm so sad........this is so wrong........
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Post by Restless Spirit on Mar 6, 2015 2:00:25 GMT
Oh Lucy. I'm so sorry. I had no idea.
My best friend's sister (who was also my neighbor and childhood friend) was murdered at the age of 22. Her mother, while pro death penalty, was primarily concerned that the 2 men that killed never, ever got the chance to ever do it again. She didn't want another mother to have to go through what she did.
I only hope that life in prison for Jodi Arias truly means just that-life. With absolutely no chance -ever- for parole. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of faith in our justice system that life really means life. Life sentences get over turned all the time.
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Post by Rainbow on Mar 6, 2015 2:03:18 GMT
The movie was really creepy. I'm not even gonna watch more of it on TV.
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Post by padresfan619 on Mar 6, 2015 2:04:47 GMT
I would rather she get life without the possibility of parole instead of the death penalty. She can spend years and years appealing that sentence. I would rather she get sentenced and be sent away so we never have to hear from her again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 2:13:14 GMT
I am not sad, I am livid. Luckily there WILL be justice on the other side. His poor, sweet family. They had to go through this a SECOND time and for what!?! Not to mention how much it cost my state. I just got on the internet. I can only imagine what will be popping up on my feed. At least she was found guilty. That is more than Casey Anthony was found. This sickens me truly. ONE juror was the holdout. One.damn.juror. It's not fair for his family. It's just not. To be put through another trial, open that wound up again and then have it turn out the same way. This was on a facebook page: I have so much to say yet I can't say anything. I'm numb. ONE juror. ONE. All these years, all the support, all the heartache, all the hoping... all for nothing. Jodi Arias won. Travis Alexander lost. Again. The holdout juror said "the death penalty isn't justice, it's revenge". I recall Jodi Arias saying the exact same thing in a post verdict interview, 2013. I can't remember which interview it was but it gave me chills back then and I got chills when I heard it again today during the jury's presser. I'm certain the holdout watched the same broadcast. They did not go through a second trial, only a second penalty phase. The Alexander family didn't lose anything. Jodi Arias has been convicted and is going to prison for life. And if not one but two separate juries were unable to come to a unanimous death penalty verdict, that ought to tell you something important. I think you are taking this very personally. I apologize if you are connected to the family in some way. They still had to sit through the same testimonies and see the same awful things about their family member. They had to hear about the brutality of his murder (have you heard the details? they are horrific and go way beyond her just killing him. I take it you think she didn't deserved the death penalty. That is fine. I disagree. Not just because of the awful facts of the case but also because of the way she acted after. It was completely atrocious. I am close to the case but won't explain why. I doubt it would matter to you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 2:14:52 GMT
For the record, I don't agree with the juror who voted against the death penalty but I also don't agree with people going after him or her. I guess some have posted their address on twitter. That is completely wrong. I just disagree with the outcome and I am entitled to my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 2:23:48 GMT
I'm not a supporter of the death penalty. I just cant reconcile the barbaric nature of it with modern society. Jodi will be locked away and eventually her celeb status will fade, just like with Scott Peterson, another brutal murderer. After a while, we won't be hearing much about her - no death row appeals, vigils, etc. She'll just become a part of the American penitentiary background - out of sight, out of mind.
Travis' family would be better served to not give another second of attention to his killer and simply focus on Travis, and celebrate his life.
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