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Post by Kate * on Mar 6, 2015 2:33:40 GMT
IMHO I don't think jurors should decide if someone should get the death penalty or not. i think it's enough they listen to the evidence and decide on the verdict of guilty or not guilty. the extreme penalty should be left to legal professionals.
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Mar 6, 2015 3:55:07 GMT
I am not sad, I am livid. Luckily there WILL be justice on the other side. His poor, sweet family. They had to go through this a SECOND time and for what!?! Not to mention how much it cost my state. I just got on the internet. I can only imagine what will be popping up on my feed. At least she was found guilty. That is more than Casey Anthony was found. This sickens me truly. ONE juror was the holdout. One.damn.juror. It's not fair for his family. It's just not. To be put through another trial, open that wound up again and then have it turn out the same way. This was on a facebook page: I have so much to say yet I can't say anything. I'm numb. ONE juror. ONE. All these years, all the support, all the heartache, all the hoping... all for nothing. Jodi Arias won. Travis Alexander lost. Again. The holdout juror said "the death penalty isn't justice, it's revenge". I recall Jodi Arias saying the exact same thing in a post verdict interview, 2013. I can't remember which interview it was but it gave me chills back then and I got chills when I heard it again today during the jury's presser. I'm certain the holdout watched the same broadcast. Have you ever served on a jury? I think if you have any reasonable doubt you should not sentence someone to death. And I don't believe in consequences after death so that plays no role in my opinion.
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Peamac
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Jun 26, 2014 0:09:18 GMT
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Post by Peamac on Mar 6, 2015 4:50:51 GMT
Oh Lucy. I'm so sorry. I had no idea. My best friend's sister (who was also my neighbor and childhood friend) was murdered at the age of 22. Her mother, while pro death penalty, was primarily concerned that the 2 men that killed never, ever got the chance to ever do it again. She didn't want another mother to have to go through what she did. I only hope that life in prison for Jodi Arias truly means just that-life. With absolutely no chance -ever- for parole. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of faith in our justice system that life really means life. Life sentences get over turned all the time.Aye, there's the rub! If we were guaranteed that "life" actually meant "life w/o parole" instead of "a long time, till we decide to grant parole" there would probably be fewer people for the death penalty. The death penalty would keep Jodi from being able to kill anyone else, bothering the family, etc. ETA- I also don't believe that the death penalty is "revenge"- it's to prevent further murders by that killer.
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ingrid
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Jun 26, 2014 0:52:41 GMT
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Post by ingrid on Mar 6, 2015 6:42:17 GMT
I am not sad, I am livid. Luckily there WILL be justice on the other side. His poor, sweet family. They had to go through this a SECOND time and for what!?! Not to mention how much it cost my state. I just got on the internet. I can only imagine what will be popping up on my feed. At least she was found guilty. That is more than Casey Anthony was found. This sickens me truly. ONE juror was the holdout. One.damn.juror. It's not fair for his family. It's just not. To be put through another trial, open that wound up again and then have it turn out the same way. This was on a facebook page: I have so much to say yet I can't say anything. I'm numb. ONE juror. ONE. All these years, all the support, all the heartache, all the hoping... all for nothing. Jodi Arias won. Travis Alexander lost. Again. The holdout juror said "the death penalty isn't justice, it's revenge". I recall Jodi Arias saying the exact same thing in a post verdict interview, 2013. I can't remember which interview it was but it gave me chills back then and I got chills when I heard it again today during the jury's presser. I'm certain the holdout watched the same broadcast. Have you ever served on a jury? I think if you have any reasonable doubt you should not sentence someone to death. And I don't believe in consequences after death so that plays no role in my opinion. I thought that in order for someone to qualify to serve on a jury that will hear a death penalty case, they would have to be willing to issue the death penalty. Shouldn't this juror have been dismissed if she felt that the death penalty isn't appropriate because it's vengeful rather than just? I see where you're coming from as far as reasonable doubt, but it sounds like she has a problem with sentencing someone to death in general.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 6, 2015 9:55:55 GMT
They did not go through a second trial, only a second penalty phase. The Alexander family didn't lose anything. Jodi Arias has been convicted and is going to prison for life. And if not one but two separate juries were unable to come to a unanimous death penalty verdict, that ought to tell you something important. I think you are taking this very personally. I apologize if you are connected to the family in some way. They still had to sit through the same testimonies and see the same awful things about their family member. They had to hear about the brutality of his murder (have you heard the details? they are horrific and go way beyond her just killing him. I take it you think she didn't deserved the death penalty. That is fine. I disagree. Not just because of the awful facts of the case but also because of the way she acted after. It was completely atrocious. I am close to the case but won't explain why. I doubt it would matter to you. I don't love the death penalty but I'm not anti, either. You are wrong in assuming I think she doesn't deserve the death penalty. My point is that it doesn't do the family any good to get so invested in the death penalty that they think they "lost" if she gets life in prison. I have sat through a number of murder trials with the victims' families and I know exactly how difficult and destructive it is. Please do not think I am minimizing their pain.
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Post by gritzi on Mar 6, 2015 12:25:29 GMT
From what I've been reading several requests were submitted to the judge asking for an alternate to replace this juror. The judge denied their requests. I read that this juror was found to have followed Arias coverage &/or watched the made for TV movie. I also read that the last request stated the juror refused to deliberate with the other 11 jurors.
Obviously I wasn't present so I don't know if those statements truly happened or not.
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