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Post by bc2ca on Apr 14, 2015 22:33:01 GMT
Have you seen the Bush's Baked Beans commercial asking kids what their favorite vegetable is? The Vegetable that Kids LoveDH & I look at each other every time we have seen it and say the same thing "when did baked beans become a vegetable?" I have always considered beans to hover between protein and starchs, kind of in their own category. Do you think of beans (legumes, not green/string beans) as a vegetable? ETA for clarification. I know legumes are plants and I should have been clearer in my question, which really is "When you include baked beans in a meal, do you count it as a protein serving, a starch serving or as a vegetable serving?" |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 14, 2015 22:33:30 GMT
yes, but it's a starchy vegetable. (like potatoes and corn)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 22:34:12 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Zee on Apr 14, 2015 22:37:32 GMT
No. I don't consider starchy things vegetables because I learned that when I was first diagnosed with gestational diabetes. That includes peas (but not pea pods) and corn.
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Post by dreamer on Apr 14, 2015 22:40:29 GMT
well with brown sugar not really. I haven't seen the commercial though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 22:42:37 GMT
No, absolutely not. I'd consider baked beans gross  And beans in general, I consider a starchy protein, not a vegetable. ETA: The USDA considers them both a protein and a vegetable. I could never imagine serving legumes in place of a vegetable. As an additional side, yes, but not without other vegetables also part of the meal. |
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Post by leannec on Apr 14, 2015 22:42:47 GMT
Not really the type that is in the can with sauce ... plain beans that are used for things like chili I would consider to be a protein  |
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Post by scrapngranny on Apr 14, 2015 22:43:18 GMT
No, I consider them a starch.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 14, 2015 22:46:08 GMT
the fact that it's a starch doesn't negate the fact that it's a vegetable. (botanically. A legume is a class of vegetables that includes beans, peas, and lentils. mayoclinic.org info)
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2015 22:46:13 GMT
No, not in that form.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 22:47:19 GMT
the fact that it's a starch doesn't negate the fact that it's a vegetable. (botanically. A legume is a class of vegetables that includes beans, peas, and lentils. mayoclinic.org info) Exactly. |
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Post by bandjmom on Apr 14, 2015 22:49:04 GMT
Botanically, yes; nutritionally, no.
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Post by katybee on Apr 14, 2015 22:49:35 GMT
Well, my baked beans probably have more sugar and bacon than actual beans… So I'm going to say no…
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 22:50:30 GMT
I think we all understand that legumes are vegetables, botanically speaking. My interpretation of the question is really "if you are serving beans for a meal, what role do they fill?" And for me and several others, that nutritional role is not as a vegetable.
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2015 22:50:42 GMT
I know its a vegetable but I don't consider it a vegetable in terms of my daily intake when trying to eat enough fruits and vegetables. I don't count it as a serving of veg if I have them on toast for lunch.
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Post by marianne on Apr 14, 2015 22:51:13 GMT
the fact that it's a starch doesn't negate the fact that it's a vegetable. (botanically. A legume is a class of vegetables that includes beans, peas, and lentils. mayoclinic.org info)  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 22:52:33 GMT
I still count them as a serving of veg because nutritionally they are. Yes they have sugar in them but it's not like I eat them every night. You still get the nutrients and vitamins in them.
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Post by Woobster on Apr 14, 2015 22:54:07 GMT
I love baked beans, but had no idea they were categorized as a vegetable. I don't serve them, or eat them in the place of a vegetable.
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Post by Zee on Apr 14, 2015 22:56:09 GMT
Count them however you want--I think we all know they're a vegetable, but in answering the question I stated they're a starch for my dietary purposes. Others feel the same. No need to make this a food war.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 14, 2015 22:56:26 GMT
"Do you think of beans (legumes, not green/string beans) are a vegetable?"
^^^^^ this is the question that was posed. If the question was phrased 'do you think they are as good as' or 'can take the place of' a green vegetable on your dinner plate, then my answer may have been different. (probably not, though, because they all can have a place in a balanced diet.
eta: I've probably been reading too much detail into things today, because, well, that's my job. To make sure all the details necessary are included. No food war here, just trying to be specific.
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2015 22:57:03 GMT
Hmmm, I stand corrected! I just went to look at a can and they do count as a serving of veg as far as government guidelines suggest. Also there's nearly as much tomatoes as beans in there so that must help. Mentally I'm probably still not going to think of then that way though  |
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Post by padresfan619 on Apr 14, 2015 22:57:13 GMT
I consider them a vegetable in the same way I do corn and potatoes. They aren't going to replace dark, leafy greens in my diet.
I also consider them nasty! My mom tried to make them from scratch one year before our family 4th of July BBQ. She soaked the beans way too long and when she put them on the heat it was like our entire house was filled with dirty diapers. It was seriously the most horrendous thing I have ever smelled. I wasn't a huge fan of baked beans before that experience, but that turned me off of them for ever.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 14, 2015 22:57:57 GMT
No, absolutely not. I'd consider baked beans gross And beans in general, I consider a starchy protein, not a vegetable. ETA: The USDA considers them both a protein and a vegetable. I could never imagine serving legumes in place of a vegetable. As an additional side, yes, but not without other vegetables also part of the meal. The USDA considers what else is on the plate, so if the beans are served with another protein source they count toward your vegetable servings. If the beans are not served with another protein, they count as a protein. Beans & Peas |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 23:04:54 GMT
I know its a vegetable but I don't consider it a vegetable in terms of my daily intake when trying to eat enough fruits and vegetables. I don't count it as a serving of veg if I have them on toast for lunch. I get what you mean gar but Heinz do class them as one of your five a day portions....so you're OK To answer the OP's question....No. I don't really class them as a vegetable in the same way as I do others, such as green beans,carrots,cauliflower etc. But they are very nutritional, full of protein and virtually fat free. The Heinz baked beans in tomato sauce we have in the UK also don't have any artificial colouring, flavours or preservatives in them. So I consider them quite healthy |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 23:07:17 GMT
"Do you think of beans (legumes, not green/string beans) are a vegetable?" ^^^^^ this is the question that was posed. If the question was phrased 'do you think they are as good as' or 'can take the place of' a green vegetable on your dinner plate, then my answer may have been different. (probably not, though, because they all can have a place in a balanced diet. eta: I've probably been reading too much detail into things today, because, well, that's my job. To make sure all the details necessary are included. No food war here, just trying to be specific. That may be the final sentence with a question mark on it, but the OP's post provides more context than that. I know I was answering the question with the OP's whole post in mind, not just that one sentence. |
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Post by gar on Apr 14, 2015 23:09:44 GMT
I know its a vegetable but I don't consider it a vegetable in terms of my daily intake when trying to eat enough fruits and vegetables. I don't count it as a serving of veg if I have them on toast for lunch. I get what you mean gar but Heinz do class them as one of your five a day portions....so you're OK To answer the OP's question....No. I don't really class them as a vegetable in the same way as I do others, such as green beans,carrots,cauliflower etc. But they are very nutritional, full of protein and virtually fat free. The Heinz baked beans in tomato sauce we have in the UK also don't have any artificial colouring, flavours or preservatives in them. So I consider them quite healthy Yes, I added that in my next post:smile: |
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Post by Nicole in TX on Apr 14, 2015 23:14:47 GMT
Botanically, yes; nutritionally, no. |
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 14, 2015 23:15:04 GMT
"Do you think of beans (legumes, not green/string beans) are a vegetable?" ^^^^^ this is the question that was posed. If the question was phrased 'do you think they are as good as' or 'can take the place of' a green vegetable on your dinner plate, then my answer may have been different. (probably not, though, because they all can have a place in a balanced diet. eta: I've probably been reading too much detail into things today, because, well, that's my job. To make sure all the details necessary are included. No food war here, just trying to be specific. I've edited the question. I'm not questioning the nutritional value of beans (or that they are from a plant), just wondering if anyone else was as surprised as I was to see them count as a vegetable serving as I was always taught they were nutritionally categorized as a protein/starch. |
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Post by pierogi on Apr 14, 2015 23:16:06 GMT
Not really. Baked beans, potatoes and corn are starches. Yet I still consider peas a vegetable.
Another food fight is the tomato = fruit or vegetable debate. I love tomatoes, but refuse to accept them as fruit.
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 14, 2015 23:17:21 GMT
Well considering the whole of our dinner (lazy mom night) is black beans and yellow rice, I am considering them both a veggie and a protein. With cheese on top (along with onion) it is actually a pretty whole, and somewhat healthy meal.
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And beans in general, I consider a starchy protein, not a vegetable. 
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