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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 6:27:04 GMT
I think the Josh Duggar catch was purely accidental in the data dump. The public hadn't forgotten but I think his exposure was just gravy.
Jarod the child molester and child pornography collection is beyond words. It's so freaking impossible to believe! He confessed to it so it's real, but Jarod is the fat guy who ate Subway and lost weight. He did all sorts of good stuff. What the @#$# was he thinking? If someone possesses something like this, they find people like themselves and blab. Of course he was going to get caught.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 7:23:10 GMT
I have a question. Who is publishing the Ashley Madison information? Is it the hackers? I just think it's really irresponsible for any media outlet to publish any information stemming from the hacking. I know I'm dreaming though. I completely agree. it easy to disassociate yourself from the realities of this situation as people want to mock and laugh at stupid celebrities but behind everyone of them are most likely innocent partners and most definitely innocent children this will not just be a matter of public embarrassment for some. for some it will be a matter of intense shame for all concerned which might result in tragic circumstances
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 7:56:31 GMT
Am I the only one that finds it humorous that he said he really doesn't watch TV except for a few reality shows.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Aug 20, 2015 8:41:57 GMT
Am I the only one that finds it humorous that he said he really doesn't watch TV except for a few reality shows. You are not the only one, I had to smile when I read that too......uses a 'random guy' picture but couldn't resist adding that to his profile to go with all the other information.
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Post by momof3pits on Aug 20, 2015 8:50:11 GMT
Even after everything, I'm really shocked that josh would be on the site. I have a healthy dose of skepticism about that one. why? This is one I don't have a feeling that he is being set up. I think a lot of people are going to be shamed. Too bad people won't "believe" it even right there in front of their eyes. I think the women in that faith were supposed to be ready at all times to give up the goods.
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Post by momof3pits on Aug 20, 2015 8:50:54 GMT
There is so much I want to say about that Duggar creep and to his supporters on this board but it won't be nice. Instead I'll just say karma's a bitch! Who supports him on this board??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 9:21:09 GMT
I have a question. Who is publishing the Ashley Madison information? Is it the hackers? I just think it's really irresponsible for any media outlet to publish any information stemming from the hacking. I know I'm dreaming though. I completely agree. it easy to disassociate yourself from the realities of this situation as people want to mock and laugh at stupid celebrities but behind everyone of them are most likely innocent partners and most definitely innocent children this will not just be a matter of public embarrassment for some. for some it will be a matter of intense shame for all concerned which might result in tragic circumstances I agree. Leaving aside the " Duggar's" of this world and no way am I defending infidelity but I can't understand the agenda of the hackers. What was their end goal? Did they think they had the moral responsibility to cleanse the rest of the world or are they just out to destroy people's lives just for the fun of it?
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 20, 2015 9:33:16 GMT
Even after everything, I'm really shocked that josh would be on the site. I have a healthy dose of skepticism about that one. Me too.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 20, 2015 11:23:56 GMT
I laughed out loud when I read that the Duggar loser was one of the first to be outed. What a surprise. Not. And his wife will be one of those idiots who stay with their loser husbands instead of doing the right thing and getting the hell outta there. Thank goodness the wife of the Fogle loser is doing the right thing.
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Post by gar on Aug 20, 2015 11:24:51 GMT
I completely agree. it easy to disassociate yourself from the realities of this situation as people want to mock and laugh at stupid celebrities but behind everyone of them are most likely innocent partners and most definitely innocent children this will not just be a matter of public embarrassment for some. for some it will be a matter of intense shame for all concerned which might result in tragic circumstances I agree. Leaving aside the " Duggar's" of this world and no way am I defending infidelity but I can't understand the agenda of the hackers. What was their end goal? Did they think they had the moral responsibility to cleanse the rest of the world or are they just out to destroy people's lives just for the fun of it? I was of the belief that they were doing it to expose the fact that AM said they were deleting profiles when requested but actually weren't and also to expose the failure of the so-called super security of the site.
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Post by AnotherPea on Aug 20, 2015 11:27:25 GMT
The jury is still out for me on this. These two are easy targets and considering how they were just recently caught regarding sexual crimes, this release seems too neatly wrapped up for me to believe quite yet.
I haven't followed the hacking of the website that much , so if they've released other people's names in a similar fashion, I might be more inclined to accept this as truth.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2015 11:37:48 GMT
The jury is still out for me on this. These two are easy targets and considering how they were just recently caught regarding sexual crimes, this release seems too neatly wrapped up for me to believe quite yet. I haven't followed the hacking of the website that much , so if they've released other people's names in a similar fashion, I might be more inclined to accept this as truth. Jared's has nothing to do with hacking or Ashely Madison. You should probably read up on the data dump before you comment, they have released *everyone's* names in a similar fashion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 12:03:16 GMT
I agree. Leaving aside the " Duggar's" of this world and no way am I defending infidelity but I can't understand the agenda of the hackers. What was their end goal? Did they think they had the moral responsibility to cleanse the rest of the world or are they just out to destroy people's lives just for the fun of it? I was of the belief that they were doing it to expose the fact that AM said they were deleting profiles when requested but actually weren't and also to expose the failure of the so-called super security of the site. Ah I see. But surely there must have been another way to do this than to put millions of innocent people at risk of the consequences that will prevail. I just feel really sorry for all those children and partners, for that matter, that are on the verge of having their whole life destroyed by this if they leak these unconfirmed e-mail addresses. From what I understand AM don't check the authenticity of the e mail addresses, so they ( the hackers) have no way of knowing if it's a genuine one or that it actually belongs to the named person. I could use any e mail I like but it doesn't really confirm it's actually me.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 20, 2015 12:10:23 GMT
I was of the belief that they were doing it to expose the fact that AM said they were deleting profiles when requested but actually weren't and also to expose the failure of the so-called super security of the site. Ah I see. But surely there must have been another way to do this than to put millions of innocent people at risk of the consequences that will prevail. I just feel really sorry for all those children and partners, for that matter, that are on the verge of having their whole life destroyed by this if they leak these unconfirmed e-mail addresses. From what I understand AM don't check the authenticity of the e mail addresses, so they ( the hackers) have no way of knowing if it's a genuine one or that it actually belongs to the named person. I could use any e mail I like but it doesn't really confirm it's actually me. But isn't knowledge power for these innocent people? It may not be the best way to find out, but I would think that it's better to know the asshole you thought was faithful is actually a lying and cheating scumbag? Then they can pick up the pieces, distance themselves from the cheaters and move on to a prosperous, healthy, cheater free life? The initial discovery would definitely be horrible but surely a good thing in the end?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 12:18:01 GMT
Jared's accounts on Ashley Madison pale in comparison to his having a foundation for helping obese children, which seems like it was for grooming kids with low self esteem for he and his other pedophile friend. Just horrible.
ETA Sorry -- it was pointed out that Jared wasn't part of the Ashley Madison outing.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2015 12:19:08 GMT
Ah I see. But surely there must have been another way to do this than to put millions of innocent people at risk of the consequences that will prevail. I just feel really sorry for all those children and partners, for that matter, that are on the verge of having their whole life destroyed by this if they leak these unconfirmed e-mail addresses. From what I understand AM don't check the authenticity of the e mail addresses, so they ( the hackers) have no way of knowing if it's a genuine one or that it actually belongs to the named person. I could use any e mail I like but it doesn't really confirm it's actually me. But isn't knowledge power for these innocent people? It may not be the best way to find out, but I would think that it's better to know the asshole you thought was faithful is actually a lying and cheating scumbag? Then they can pick up the pieces, distance themselves from the cheaters and move on to a prosperous, healthy, cheater free life? The initial discovery would definitely be horrible but surely a good thing in the end? Not to mention, it's more than just an email address and a name. It's GPS, Credit cards, etc. It would be pretty difficult to lie about all of those things. If it quacks like a duck...
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2015 12:20:25 GMT
Jared's accounts on Ashley Madison pale in comparison to his having a foundation for helping obese children, which seems like it was for grooming kids with low self esteem for he and his other pedophile friend. Just horrible. I don't think anyone has shown he has an account on Ashley Madison...
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Post by katieanna on Aug 20, 2015 12:20:48 GMT
Leaving aside the " Duggar's" of this world and no way am I defending infidelity but I can't understand the agenda of the hackers. What was their end goal? Did they think they had the moral responsibility to cleanse the rest of the world or are they just out to destroy people's lives just for the fun of it? Good question. I hadn't thought of that. ETA: I was of the belief that they were doing it to expose the fact that AM said they were deleting profiles when requested but actually weren't and also to expose the failure of the so-called super security of the site. I suppose if they felt the need to prove it, how else could they prove it? How true it is that our sins, sooner or later, will find us out.
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Post by J u l e e on Aug 20, 2015 12:21:11 GMT
Jared does not have an Ashley Madison account (that we yet know of). The OP posted an article about his divorce along with an article about Josh Duggar having an AM account.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 12:24:15 GMT
Jared's accounts on Ashley Madison pale in comparison to his having a foundation for helping obese children, which seems like it was for grooming kids with low self esteem for he and his other pedophile friend. Just horrible. I don't think anyone has shown he has an account on Ashley Madison... Oops, my bad. I still can't get over how exactly his behavior follows the descriptions of pedophiles in the child protection courses I've had to take.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 20, 2015 12:24:32 GMT
No fan of the Duggers - in fact I'm kind of ashamed at how gleeful I have been about their downfall. But I'm not really ok with hacking web sites and posting the information for everyone to see. Today it's Ashley Madison, but what is it tomorrow? IRS and OPM had their web sites hacked - it is not OK for the info the hackers obtained to post it online. The hacking itself is a crime.
I see Josh Dugger as the product of a completely repressed upbringing who did not have any opportunity for normalcy. I think if he had one ounce of freedom he would have had a chance. And I believe if they had not been funded by the media and had rather just lived on in obscurity he could have explored life a bit. But with that level of media exposure and the money rolling in he never broke free. They probably told him to marry Anna so they could have 15 million viewers watch the wedding. I do not think he is a disgusting pig solely because of the Ashley Madison accounts, because men have been using prostitutes since the beginning of time, so in some ways he is not that unusual. I think he is disgusting because he preached hatred against others for their sexuality while all the time leading his own double life. He could have turned out to be a normal guy if he had not been brainwashed and repressed and to be real about it, emotionally abused in that family. But it's too late for him unless he would decide that his family messed him up, get into serious therapy and break free and go on to live in obscurity somewhere.
As for Anna, shes not going anywhere. Where would she go and what would she do? She's going to stay right there with the Duggers.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 20, 2015 12:34:05 GMT
Josh Duggar may have had a few supporters here before today, but I'm sure nobody will come forward now and make excuses for him. I'm as anti-adultery as they come but I find it vomitous that people could excuse away the molesting but this is what will cost him support. People have some seriously messed up moral compasses.
And for those who asked, there was a very long thread a little while ago with peas excusing his behaviour.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2015 12:34:49 GMT
I don't think anyone has shown he has an account on Ashley Madison... Oops, my bad. I still can't get over how exactly his behavior follows the descriptions of pedophiles in the child protection courses I've had to take. It's ok, seems to be some confusion. I'm just going to say I'm really, really, really glad that my life path did not lead me down the trail of classes about pedophile behavior. Because I think it would make me insane. I worked with kids who had been sexually abused and I just can't even begin to want to understand the mindset of the pervs that did that to them. I want to just off them, not understand them. I really don't care what makes them tick.
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Post by raindancer on Aug 20, 2015 12:37:22 GMT
I completely agree. it easy to disassociate yourself from the realities of this situation as people want to mock and laugh at stupid celebrities but behind everyone of them are most likely innocent partners and most definitely innocent children this will not just be a matter of public embarrassment for some. for some it will be a matter of intense shame for all concerned which might result in tragic circumstances I agree. Leaving aside the " Duggar's" of this world and no way am I defending infidelity but I can't understand the agenda of the hackers. What was their end goal? Did they think they had the moral responsibility to cleanse the rest of the world or are they just out to destroy people's lives just for the fun of it? Merely speculation on my part, but I suspect it's someone(s) who has been been burned by infidelity, either personally, or watched a parent suffer. I'm guessing it was personal, not some moral responsibility to the world.
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 20, 2015 12:42:05 GMT
The jury is still out for me on this. These two are easy targets and considering how they were just recently caught regarding sexual crimes, this release seems too neatly wrapped up for me to believe quite yet. I haven't followed the hacking of the website that much , so if they've released other people's names in a similar fashion, I might be more inclined to accept this as truth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 12:47:34 GMT
Oops, my bad. I still can't get over how exactly his behavior follows the descriptions of pedophiles in the child protection courses I've had to take. It's ok, seems to be some confusion. I'm just going to say I'm really, really, really glad that my life path did not lead me down the trail of classes about pedophile behavior. Because I think it would make me insane. I worked with kids who had been sexually abused and I just can't even begin to want to understand the mindset of the pervs that did that to them. I want to just off them, not understand them. I really don't care what makes them tick. I agree -- I can't imagine developing those classes: figuring out pedophiles' behavior, and listening to them trying to justify what they've done. The courses I've taken were in spotting the behavior and how to keep the kids safe. Unfortunately, one was in response to horrifying incidents at my church. He's in jail for life.
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Post by apeacalledliz on Aug 20, 2015 12:51:51 GMT
The jury is still out for me on this. These two are easy targets and considering how they were just recently caught regarding sexual crimes, this release seems too neatly wrapped up for me to believe quite yet. I haven't followed the hacking of the website that much , so if they've released other people's names in a similar fashion, I might be more inclined to accept this as truth. they have released ALL the names not just Josh Duggars, Jared Fogle has nothing to do with the AM scandal at all. Josh Duggar however, his info is all over that site and not just once as in he stopped to check it out and created a free account, his credit card was used to pay for 2 subscriptions over 2 years totaling almost 1000.00. This isn't some long con someone is playing to get back at the Duggars, this is a piece of shit "man" who thinks he can do whatever he wants and get away with it because that's what his religion tells him and that has been his experience in life up to now.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 20, 2015 13:36:13 GMT
Most of the time hackers do these things because they can.
No other motivation necessary.
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Post by apeacalledliz on Aug 20, 2015 13:40:27 GMT
The OKCupid profile that is very likely Josh Duggars(it used the same email as the AM profile) as well has some interesting answers to their dating questions: Do you feel there are any circumstances where someone is obligated to have sex with you? Yes Have you been faithful in all your past relationships? No Would you consider having an open relationship? Yes How often do you do things out of spite? Sometimes Could you date someone with no long term goals? Yes If you're wrong do you have a hard time apologizing? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 13:49:58 GMT
I haven't seen a Duggar response to this revelation. Has anyone else?
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