tincin
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Post by tincin on Aug 20, 2015 17:19:29 GMT
I find myself completely appalled by Trump's comments regarding women and wonder why a woman would ever vote for someone who so obviously neither values nor respects them. Even if I were a Republican, I could not vote for such a disgusting neanderthal. Comments about Mexicans, "illegal aliens," and "anchor babies" aside, how can a woman plan to cast a vote for such a misogynist? "During the first debate, Kelly asked about the "downsides" of Trump speaking his mind "when it comes to women." Kelly: You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. Your Twitter account … Trump: Only Rosie O'Donnell. Kelly: No, it wasn't. Your Twitter account … Kelly: … For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O'Donnell. Trump: Yes, I'm sure it was." Detroit Free Press"As far back as a 1991 interview with Esquire magazine, Trump had boasted: “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of [expletive]. But she’s got to be young and beautiful.” In a 2006 book, he wrote of women as objectified collectibles: “Beauty and elegance, whether in a woman, a building, or a work of art is not just superficial or something pretty to see.” He once sent New York Times columnist Gail Collins a copy of something she had written about him with her picture circled and “The face of a dog!” written over it. And in 2012, he tweeted that Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington is “unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man — he made a good decision.” (Huffington’s ex-husband, former congressman Michael Huffington (R-Calif.), came out as gay after their divorce.)" WA Post"The latest controversy started Thursday night when Fox News debate moderator Megyn Kelly recounted Trump’s history of incendiary comments toward women. Angry over what he considered unfair treatment at the debate, Trump told CNN on Friday night that Kelly had “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.”" PBS |
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Post by iowgirl on Aug 20, 2015 17:35:20 GMT
I am absolutely amazed by what comes out of his mouth. I do not agree with about anything he says.
But... and this pains me to say it... I am actually loving the F.U. attitude he has. It is time for ALL politicians to quit saying one thing, then doing the other - all in the name of political correctness. I think most (all) of them are in someones pocket and do their bidding.
I really think people are so sick and tired of the lies and BS that we have gotten for so long - that someone who speaks his mind and doesn't apologize is really striking a chord.
Don't lump me in as a Donald lover, because I am not. But geeze - he is teflon.
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Post by cajeanne on Aug 20, 2015 17:37:28 GMT
If push-comes-to-shove, which I don't think it will, I would vote for a disgusting Trump over a lying Clinton in a heartbeat.
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Post by traceys on Aug 20, 2015 17:58:49 GMT
I have no plans to vote for Donald Trump, and I'm not at all impressed with his protestations that he "cherishes women." But I also haven't forgotten the vitriol unleashed by the Clintons at any woman who talked about an encounter with Bill. I don't believe for a second that Carvilles comment about "dragging a $20 bill through a trailer park" didn't have Hillary's blessing. So she gets no points from me as being any kind of champion of women.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 18:21:39 GMT
The difference between Trump and HRC is that he doesn't need the Presidency. His life is full of many other things. He's known success and power--probably more power than the Presidency will offer him. He certainly doesn't give a rip about the money or the prestige. As he said, he's not a politician, so this is not the culmination of his life's work.
I'm not even really sure why he wants to put himself in this situation.
Is this a momentary passing fancy for him?
Hillary seems to think she is owed the Presidency because she has done everything to get there allegedly, she's paid her dues, and now it's her turn. Her life's work will be incomplete if she can't land this gig.
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 20, 2015 19:40:39 GMT
If push-comes-to-shove, which I don't think it will, I would vote for a disgusting Trump over a lying Clinton in a heartbeat.  |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 20, 2015 20:03:21 GMT
I won't vote for either Donald or Hillary.
I'm curious how his attitude against women is worse than women voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. I don't agree with either. I'm tired of being expected to support a women just because she's a women. Unless of course she's one of the women that other women have decided to tear down, then it seems to be a free for all and all women are supposed to go after that one.
For me it's about each individual, and in this case I don't like either one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:19:18 GMT
I won't vote for either Donald or Hillary. I'm curious how his attitude against women is worse than women voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. I don't agree with either. I'm tired of being expected to support a women just because she's a women. Unless of course she's one of the women that other women have decided to tear down, then it seems to be a free for all and all women are supposed to go after that one. For me it's about each individual, and in this case I don't like either one of them. I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. |
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 20, 2015 20:24:14 GMT
I won't vote for either Donald or Hillary. I'm curious how his attitude against women is worse than women voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. I don't agree with either. I'm tired of being expected to support a women just because she's a women. Unless of course she's one of the women that other women have decided to tear down, then it seems to be a free for all and all women are supposed to go after that one. For me it's about each individual, and in this case I don't like either one of them. I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:28:18 GMT
I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. I look at her stint as SOS and don't think she's at all qualified either. I think a number of the gaggle are at least as qualified...perhaps even more. |
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 20, 2015 20:31:33 GMT
Misogynistic ass. That is is what I think of him. If he is elected, I will petition the state of Florida to consider secession. There might be hope as I am guessing Marco Rubio isn't really a fan of his and may want to stick it in his ear.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:32:53 GMT
I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. Why not? |
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Post by Freefallfast on Aug 20, 2015 20:33:59 GMT
HRC is capable of doing good things for the country outside of politics. Time to leave the mud and leave it to people who like to wallow. Like Trump.
I have not chosen a candidate to support yet but the process is disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 20:44:41 GMT
I disagree. I don't think she's qualified at all. I look at her stint as SOS and don't think she's at all qualified either. I think a number of the gaggle are at least as qualified...perhaps even more. How so are some of the gaggle of 17 more qualified than a former U.S. Senator, former Secretary of Stare, and former resident of the White House? In what way? |
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Post by katieanna on Aug 20, 2015 20:50:47 GMT
If push-comes-to-shove, which I don't think it will, I would vote for a disgusting Trump over a lying Clinton in a heartbeat. I'm afraid that's the only way I'll be able to vote for Trump. |
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Post by katieanna on Aug 20, 2015 20:57:50 GMT
I won't vote for either Donald or Hillary. I'm curious how his attitude against women is worse than women voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. I don't agree with either. I'm tired of being expected to support a women just because she's a women. Unless of course she's one of the women that other women have decided to tear down, then it seems to be a free for all and all women are supposed to go after that one. For me it's about each individual, and in this case I don't like either one of them. I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. Those qualifications didn't seem to matter so much when Obama ran for the presidency. |
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Post by katieanna on Aug 20, 2015 21:00:29 GMT
Misogynistic ass. That is is what I think of him. If he is elected, I will petition the state of Florida to consider secession. There might be hope as I am guessing Marco Rubio isn't really a fan of his and may want to stick it in his ear. Now you're talking! At this point, I'd love to see Marco win the Repub nomination - and presidency!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 21:04:22 GMT
I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. Those qualifications didn't seem to matter so much when Obama ran for the presidency. And he got a lot of grief for that didn't he. So I'm hoping someone will tell us who of the gaggle of 17 is more qualified than Hillary and why. |
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Post by conchita on Aug 20, 2015 21:06:40 GMT
At this point I am doing my best to steer clear of the news. Just a bunch of sensationalism and hypocrisy. Trump will never have my vote. I don't want to vote for Hilary but could be persuaded if the alternative is Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 21:07:09 GMT
I disagree. I don't think she's qualified at all. Why not? Qualified and capable are two entirely different things.
If you think she is qualified merely because of her experience, I'll disagree. I think her "experience" has been a miserable failure on her part. She's shown that she is someone who can and has stepped on anyone getting in her way and believes that she can lie herself out of anything and when finally cornered to answer for herself will respond with "it doesn't matter."
She may have "qualifications" but she most certainly is not capable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 21:20:32 GMT
Qualified and capable are two entirely different things.
If you think she is qualified merely because of her experience, I'll disagree. I think her "experience" has been a miserable failure on her part. She's shown that she is someone who can and has stepped on anyone getting in her way and believes that she can lie herself out of anything and when finally cornered to answer for herself will respond with "it doesn't matter."
She may have "qualifications" but she most certainly is not capable.
I disagree with you I think she is very capable. This is not a deflection but I suspect if you look at all the ones running for President you will find quite pile of stepped on and discarded folks these guys left in their march to the White House. And I know this is not going to be a popular comment but for some reason it's ok for men to leave a trail of stepped on or discarded folks on their path to wherever but not women. I mean when Trump does it he is a successful businessman but if Hillary does it then it's not acceptable. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 20, 2015 23:57:12 GMT
I won't vote for either Donald or Hillary. I'm curious how his attitude against women is worse than women voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. I don't agree with either. I'm tired of being expected to support a women just because she's a women. Unless of course she's one of the women that other women have decided to tear down, then it seems to be a free for all and all women are supposed to go after that one. For me it's about each individual, and in this case I don't like either one of them. I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. Just because you feel she is qualified does not mean she is the right person for the job. Or that others feel she is the most qualified. Just because you aren't voting for her just because she is a women doesn't mean others aren't. People have even posted that on this very message board. |
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Post by karen on Aug 21, 2015 0:02:33 GMT
If push-comes-to-shove, which I don't think it will, I would vote for a disgusting Trump over a lying Clinton in a heartbeat. Same here! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 0:52:42 GMT
I don't know about voting for her because she is a woman. But try this on for size. How about she is the most qualified of all the ones currently running for president in spite of being a woman. Just because you feel she is qualified does not mean she is the right person for the job. Or that others feel she is the most qualified. Just because you aren't voting for her just because she is a women doesn't mean others aren't. People have even posted that on this very message board. That is absolutely true but you sure took a swing at women who you feel only vote for a woman because she is a woman and then put this group in the same category of Trump's comments about women in general and about some women in particular. There is a difference between women who you feel are voting for their candidate for the wrong reason (just because she is a woman) and Trump's attitude toward women. I would like to think you know the difference. Because you could use that same rational toward anyone who doesn't vote the same as you in spite of your words above. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 1:14:17 GMT
I look at her stint as SOS and don't think she's at all qualified either. I think a number of the gaggle are at least as qualified...perhaps even more. How so are some of the gaggle of 17 more qualified than a former U.S. Senator, former Secretary of Stare, and former resident of the White House? In what way?  |
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Aug 21, 2015 2:03:12 GMT
I have no plans to vote for Donald Trump, and I'm not at all impressed with his protestations that he "cherishes women." But I also haven't forgotten the vitriol unleashed by the Clintons at any woman who talked about an encounter with Bill. I don't believe for a second that Carvilles comment about "dragging a $20 bill through a trailer park" didn't have Hillary's blessing. So she gets no points from me as being any kind of champion of women. Not a Clinton fan either, me, I'm voting for Bernie. However, putting that aside, I really want to know how a woman could vote for a man who is so misogynistic and vile about women. It's not about who I believe is the best candidate, it is about endorsing someone who minimizes the entire gender, who thinks women are nothing more than eye candy, who thinks it is appropriate to make disgusting comments about any woman who disagrees with him. It isn't about Trump vs. anyone, it is about Trump and his degradation of half of this country's population and how anyone in that half of the population can consider endorsing him. |
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Post by lesley on Aug 21, 2015 2:10:18 GMT
How is voting for Clinton just because she's a woman any different than voting for Trump just because he's a Republican?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 2:23:22 GMT
I have no plans to vote for Donald Trump, and I'm not at all impressed with his protestations that he "cherishes women." But I also haven't forgotten the vitriol unleashed by the Clintons at any woman who talked about an encounter with Bill. I don't believe for a second that Carvilles comment about "dragging a $20 bill through a trailer park" didn't have Hillary's blessing. So she gets no points from me as being any kind of champion of women. Not a Clinton fan either, me, I'm voting for Bernie. However, putting that aside, I really want to know how a woman could vote for a man who is so misogynistic and vile about women. It's not about who I believe is the best candidate, it is about endorsing someone who minimizes the entire gender, who thinks women are nothing more than eye candy, who thinks it is appropriate to make disgusting comments about any woman who disagrees with him. It isn't about Trump vs. anyone, it is about Trump and his degradation of half of this country's population and how anyone in that half of the population can consider endorsing him. I can see your point.
So by the same token, I assume everyone who voted for Bill Clinton believes that cheating on your spouse repeatedly is fine and dandy.
(And don't claim this isn't about Bill because you can't say that it was okay to vote for him if you didn't agree with what he did ethically and then say that it's not okay to vote for Trump because you don't agree with what he says.)
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Aug 21, 2015 4:44:43 GMT
I don't see having an affair the same as misogyny.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 5:57:36 GMT
If push-comes-to-shove, which I don't think it will, I would vote for a disgusting Trump over a lying Clinton in a heartbeat. i'm sure trump has told as many lies as clinton. he just has less scrutiny and accountability as a private vs public office person i don't think you can hold his stupid comments in isolation and think other than that, he's gold. i'm pretty sure there is a high correlation with lying, cheating, and pushing people off the ledge for him |
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