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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 15, 2015 15:11:17 GMT
So we keep talking about Donald Trump, and wondering who exactly is being polled that has him so high up in those polls. It occurred to me that because the overwhelming majority of the conversations here are negative, that there are likely some supporters here who are not speaking out for concern of being browbeaten or ridiculed. I thought maybe a poll of our own to give every one a chance to say yea or nay would be a good idea.
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Post by scorpeao on Sept 15, 2015 15:33:12 GMT
a friend and I were just talking about this last night. I can't imagine anyone truly supporting him, and if a friend did I'd seriously rethink that friendship. Her theory, and she's conservative, is that it's a ploy by the democrats to make the republicans look like buffoons.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 15, 2015 18:14:52 GMT
Hope y'all don't mind, but I am going to bump this up a couple of times between now and tomorrow to try to catch every one so they can vote.
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Post by birukitty on Sept 15, 2015 18:56:25 GMT
Don't mind at all. I'd really love to see if we get anyone voting yes who isn't afraid to vote in a poll because its anonymous unlike posting a thread. I'm simply baffled that Trump is leading the polls still at this point. But some people, somewhere must be posting those numbers.
Debbie in MD.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 15, 2015 20:09:45 GMT
a friend and I were just talking about this last night. I can't imagine anyone truly supporting him, and if a friend did I'd seriously rethink that friendship. Her theory, and she's conservative, is that it's a ploy by the democrats to make the republicans look like buffoons. I'm not much for conspiracy theories but I'm starting to wonder about this myself. He is soooo over-the-top awful that I find it hard to believe he's serious.
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 15, 2015 20:15:53 GMT
So there are some people here that do support him. I'm wondering why?
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Post by Skypea on Sept 15, 2015 20:58:14 GMT
I think someone needs to find the Imperial butter(margarine?)king's crown for Trump...
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Post by deekaye on Sept 15, 2015 21:01:17 GMT
So, I'm wondering if any of the 14 (so far) peas here who support Trump would tell us why? I'm really not being sarcastic but I can't see one reason to vote Trump in as POTUS. Am I missing something? The thought of this truly terrifies me. (Edited to fix horrible sentence structure! )
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Post by jonda1974 on Sept 15, 2015 21:04:04 GMT
a friend and I were just talking about this last night. I can't imagine anyone truly supporting him, and if a friend did I'd seriously rethink that friendship. Her theory, and she's conservative, is that it's a ploy by the democrats to make the republicans look like buffoons. Much more challenging when it's your parents.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 15, 2015 21:15:47 GMT
Even though this has been anonymous, I really appreciate the people who have been willing to step up and answer in the affirmative. Thank you guys for answering honestly!!
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Post by scrapsuzy on Sept 15, 2015 21:20:12 GMT
I voted "no" because I am not a Trump supporter, unless he ends up getting the nomination. Then I will find myself voting for the best of two very awful choices.
I liken those supporting Trump without being able to articulate his stand on the issues and just because he is not a politician, to those who supported Obama who also did not articulate his stance on issues and was voted for by some just because he was black. (I'm not making that up to stir the shit, our local news actually talked to more than a few people back at the first election who said that was why they were voting for him.)
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 15, 2015 21:23:08 GMT
Not just a no, but a hell no.
Just what exactly are Trumps policies and plans beyond calling people names and patting himself on the back for "so much winning?"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 21:26:52 GMT
On this poll, I have to take it as "do you want Trump to represent the GOP party?" On that score, no, I don't support him.
If he gets the nomination, that means he offered something of substance to win over more than the 30% "I want to poke you in the eye" angry crowd, and then I'll weigh that policy. I admit I like the fact no one owns him. I like a confidence in general that says, "America is great. America is a winner. We're going to get back on that path." It's what I'd want a coach to tell me if I were training for a goal.
But so far, I haven't heard or seen anything that says Trump in particular can deliver on his bravado—and his personal behavior makes Christie sound like a choir boy. Plus I imagine at some point, his people will email me asking for a freakin' donation like everyone else does.
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Post by traceys on Sept 15, 2015 22:13:14 GMT
a friend and I were just talking about this last night. I can't imagine anyone truly supporting him, and if a friend did I'd seriously rethink that friendship. Her theory, and she's conservative, is that it's a ploy by the democrats to make the republicans look like buffoons. I don't know that I really believe that would be a widespread effort, but I have seen a couple of posts on FB encouraging Dems and Ind to change their registration to be able to vote for him in the primary. That really irritates me, as does the whole notion of open primaries. If we are going to do that, then we just need to do away with parties and take the top vote getters. Why should I, as a Republican, be able to have any input as to who the Dems want to represent them?
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Post by caro on Sept 15, 2015 22:53:46 GMT
It will be a "hell no" for me.
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Post by shanni on Sept 15, 2015 22:57:44 GMT
I try to stay out of political threads, but I'm curious about those who support Trump. Is it because he's a straight talker, non-politician, or because of his policies. I ask because today my DH gave his college students the assignment to go to Clinton and Trump's websites and write about their stances on the issues. He found out that on Trump's site, he only lists ONE issue. Immigration. That's it. No other issues are even listed.
I am really trying to understand what about him attracts supporters. It doesn't seem like he has any constructive solutions to any problems. He just likes to call people names. What is it about him that people like?
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 15, 2015 23:02:22 GMT
My FIL thinks he is great
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Post by jillonthehill on Sept 15, 2015 23:34:48 GMT
I think it is the exact opposite. It's a ploy by the republicans. The outlandish candidate is making headlines now. When the primaries roll around, everyone will look at the boring candidates who manage to survive that long and see them as a breath of fresh air.
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Post by melanell on Sept 15, 2015 23:59:36 GMT
Hey, maybe Trump will be the reason more Americans start giving real attention to candidates beyond just the 2 major parties, which is something I really think could really be a good thing.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 16, 2015 0:12:29 GMT
With the history of this board, as well as comments on some recent threads, I doubt very seriously you are going to get anyone to come out and say anything. It's a shame there can't be an honest, civilized discussion about the topic. Personally, I have asked many people I know what they think of Trump. Not asking if they support him, just what they think of him. I have yet to find anyone with a positive thing to say. It's an interesting phenomenon - he has high ratings, yet no one claims to support him. This is why I used a poll question-there are obviously people who support him, but don't want to talk about it-at least here. I wish we could have honest conversation about why they feel the way they do, but I am afraid it will devolve into the same bickering we always do. We are a pretty good cross section of people here, so it would stand to reason that there would be those that support him. I wanted to give them, even in a tiny way, a voice.
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Post by txdancermom on Sept 16, 2015 1:19:37 GMT
I found out last night that my boss, who I respect, likes Trump! I was amazed, she is an intelligent person, and can't believe that she thinks he would be any good in leadership.
I don't know who I am going to support, but it sure won't be Trump.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 16, 2015 2:57:33 GMT
I voted "no" because I am not a Trump supporter, unless he ends up getting the nomination. Then I will find myself voting for the best of two very awful choices. I liken those supporting Trump without being able to articulate his stand on the issues and just because he is not a politician, to those who supported Obama who also did not articulate his stance on issues and was voted for by some just because he was black. (I'm not making that up to stir the shit, our local news actually talked to more than a few people back at the first election who said that was why they were voting for him.) Obama had been elected to public office before. The comparison is laughable.
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Post by JustKim on Sept 16, 2015 3:06:26 GMT
I think we need change. Today I am liking another person. When it comes down to the finalist I would not oppose him depending on the others available. It might be good for a business person to be in there to get our finances in order. But way too much time for a decisive conclusion. I think he has a lot of people talking.
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 16, 2015 3:44:52 GMT
As a registered Independent, who doesn't vote a particular party line, I'm not a Trump supporter. Not only has he taken a stance on just one issue, immigration, but I do not find him likable, trustworthy, sincere, or...presidential. Unless he creates/reveals his platform, gets the Republican nomination, & faces a Democrat opponent with similar flaws, I will not consider him for my vote.
A diverse group casually meets once a month to catch up; sometimes we volunteer together & other times we just chat about our lives or random topics. The most recent meeting was devoted to the election cycle. While many were outraged about Trump's comments, specifically regarding women, one acquaintance gives him the benefit of the doubt & believes his media strategy is to consistently use inflammatory language & drop celebrity names to dominate the 24/7 news cycle (i.e. all publicity is good publicity). Another person speculated that, as a non-career-politician, he & Ben Carson represent the type of leaders the founding fathers intended to run our government. I found not only the differences in people's interpretation & assessment of candidates interesting, but also that no one was an avid supporter of any candidate somewhat discouraging. As I've previously stated, I'm hoping this election will not be another exercise in deciding between the lesser of two evils...UGH!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2015 5:30:52 GMT
I've seen just 1 Trump for President sign in our area (mid to highest income in the county) those I know Dem or Rep are not fans. They cannot wrap their heads around it being a serious run for office.
I'm guessing it's a ploy to steal votes from others or to serve his need for attention!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 6:11:05 GMT
I voted "no" because I am not a Trump supporter, unless he ends up getting the nomination. Then I will find myself voting for the best of two very awful choices. I liken those supporting Trump without being able to articulate his stand on the issues and just because he is not a politician, to those who supported Obama who also did not articulate his stance on issues and was voted for by some just because he is black. (I'm not making that up to stir the shit, our local news actually talked to more than a few people back at the first election who said that was why they were voting for him.) Obama had been elected to public office before. The comparison is laughable. The comparison is laughable to you, because you missed what her comparison actually is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 6:56:40 GMT
So, I'm wondering if any of the 14 (so far) peas here who support Trump would tell us why? I'm really not being sarcastic but I can't see one reason to vote Trump in as POTUS. Am I missing something? The thought of this truly terrifies me. (Edited to fix horrible sentence structure! ) I voted Yes and I'll share why.... I like that he's shaking things up and getting the message across that people are sick of the status quo/old boy network in politics. Something was needed to send a message to Washington that "we're not gonna take it. Anymore". He's rattled the establishment. I'm all for that. It needs to be rattled. Badly. Do I want him for president? No, I don't. Do I want the aforementioned message to be heard? Yes, I do. L
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Post by lucyg on Sept 16, 2015 7:02:46 GMT
I voted "no" because I am not a Trump supporter, unless he ends up getting the nomination. Then I will find myself voting for the best of two very awful choices. I liken those supporting Trump without being able to articulate his stand on the issues and just because he is not a politician, to those who supported Obama who also did not articulate his stance on issues and was voted for by some just because he was black. (I'm not making that up to stir the shit, our local news actually talked to more than a few people back at the first election who said that was why they were voting for him.)And I have no doubt there's a good number of people who did NOT vote for him just because he is black. The only difference is that they won't admit to it publicly.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 16, 2015 7:13:16 GMT
So we keep talking about Donald Trump, and wondering who exactly is being polled that has him so high up in those polls. It occurred to me that because the overwhelming majority of the conversations here are negative, that there are likely some supporters here who are not speaking out for concern of being browbeaten or ridiculed. I thought maybe a poll of our own to give every one a chance to say yea or nay would be a good idea. Dude, I can't answer your poll. If it's between Trump and Hillary, I support him 100%. If it's between Trump and many of the other candidates, I don't support him at all. You just asked if I support him. Conditionally - yes. Unconditionally - no.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 16, 2015 7:25:50 GMT
I try to stay out of political threads, but I'm curious about those who support Trump. Is it because he's a straight talker, non-politician, or because of his policies. I ask because today my DH gave his college students the assignment to go to Clinton and Trump's websites and write about their stances on the issues. He found out that on Trump's site, he only lists ONE issue. Immigration. That's it. No other issues are even listed. I am really trying to understand what about him attracts supporters. It doesn't seem like he has any constructive solutions to any problems. He just likes to call people names. What is it about him that people like? He doesn't go along to get along, and this is what politicians all end up doing once they win the election and actually go to Washington. They don't deliver on their promises to the voters. Trump doesn't fit the mold. Reagan didn't follow the mold. He broke with his advisors, and told "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear down this wall." That took guts I haven't seen recently. It's not evident in Mr. HereIranHaveTheMeansToNuclearAnhilationOfIsrael Obama and it is the exact opposite of what I've seen in Ms. IMustCoverMyAssAtAllCosts Clinton. Compared to those two, Trump is something completely different and thus has gotten some serious attention. How much is smoke and how much of what Trump says has substance will begin to show during campaign season when he is compared to other candidates. Personally, I have an enormous amount of respect for some of his opponents - like Ben Carson. I'd much prefer them to win the nomination than Trump.
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