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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 21, 2015 16:00:17 GMT
Now I have not said or done anything..yet. ha. But I've been thinking about this issue for a few days.
My youngest dd goes to a VERY pricey private college. We help her pay for it. It's suppose to be a nice college. When we toured it before she went there, it was very clean, kept up, lawns and outdoor areas were pristine, and very nice. Other visitors have gone to see dd have commented on how clean, beautiful, etc all the public areas are. DD is part of the housing advisor board. She is also one of the front desk workers at one of the dorms. She commented to me, and then sent an email to the main housing coordinator that the bathrooms in their dorm, namely the toilets have not been cleaned for over a month. They know because they have seen marks, or dirt in them, and it hasn't moved. if ya get my drift. Obviously someone is not doing their job. She did talk to the Housing coordinator. But do you as a parent feel like you should say something? I mean, cripes, we pay huge amts of money for housing there, and they can't clean the toilets 1x wk? let alone it's been over a month? I don't plan on saying anything right now. But to me, as a parent, I just want to complain! ha
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Post by mellowyellow on Oct 21, 2015 16:06:03 GMT
I guess maybe I'm not understanding why the students don't clean the bathrooms? We cleaned ours when I was in college.
Also, I would not get involved with this. It looks like she is doing what she is supposed to to get a resolution. Let her keep moving up the chain. Good life experience for her!
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Post by deep on Oct 21, 2015 16:06:53 GMT
I'm not quite a college mom yet, but I would only step in if it was a health/safety issue or a barrier to my child completing his education and my child has exhausted all resources in resolving the issues himself.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Oct 21, 2015 16:08:58 GMT
It sounds like she has tried to handle it with the authority she has, and she hasn't been successful. IMO, it is OK for you to call now. When I couldn't get a leak in my dorm room fixed, my dad called the Dean's office, and it was fixed the next day.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Oct 21, 2015 16:09:31 GMT
Unless you share a bathroom with only 3 other people and it is stated that you are responsible for cleaning, it is up to the university. Let her deal with it. It isn't worth you getting involved.
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Post by STBC on Oct 21, 2015 16:11:32 GMT
It's a great opportunity for her to figure out how to resolve the issue on her own. Guide her if she asks, but let her take the lead.
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Post by mallie on Oct 21, 2015 16:17:18 GMT
I guess maybe I'm not understanding why the students don't clean the bathrooms? We cleaned ours when I was in college. Also, I would not get involved with this. It looks like she is doing what she is supposed to to get a resolution. Let her keep moving up the chain. Good life experience for her! My girls have only cleaned their own bathrooms when it's a college's residence hall with private bathrooms. For example, right now, one of my girls is in a college residence hall of apartments -- three girls, two bathrooms. They clean their own bathrooms. BUT the 'general' bathrooms in the lobby, etc are cleaned by the janitors. Otherwise -- in a dorm -- the cost of the housing includes the cost of cleaning the bathrooms. OP -- I would give her advice on how to make herself heard. If another week passes without bathroom cleaning and she's been trying to get heard but getting stonewalled, then I'd probably make a call. Sometimes part of being an adult is knowing when to ask someone with more power to help out.
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Post by mellowyellow on Oct 21, 2015 16:18:35 GMT
I guess maybe I'm not understanding why the students don't clean the bathrooms? We cleaned ours when I was in college. Also, I would not get involved with this. It looks like she is doing what she is supposed to to get a resolution. Let her keep moving up the chain. Good life experience for her! My girls have only cleaned their own bathrooms when it's a college's residence hall with private bathrooms. For example, right now, one of my girls is in a college residence hall of apartments -- three girls, two bathrooms. They clean their own bathrooms. BUT the 'general' bathrooms in the lobby, etc are cleaned by the janitors. Otherwise -- in a dorm -- the cost of the housing includes the cost of cleaning the bathrooms. Ah....gotcha!
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 21, 2015 16:24:20 GMT
"I guess maybe I'm not understanding why the students don't clean the bathrooms? We cleaned ours when I was in college' -------------------------------------
Because there are people hired to do that? Housekeeping? It would be like you cleaning your house after you paid a house cleaner to come in.
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Post by krc11 on Oct 21, 2015 16:27:20 GMT
Sounds like she's trying to handle it. I might tell her that if she feels she is not getting a response and would like me to call, I'd be happy to make the call. But I wouldn't be calling if she is trying to handle it. Wait until she asks you to call. That allows her to continue to learn how to handle it but gives her an out if she doesn't feel like they are listening.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 16:42:48 GMT
I'd be letting her handle it, but I have to wonder if there is a miscommunication on whether the student is responsible or university provides housekeeping. In all dorms where there are "private" bathrooms, the kids I know are required to clean it themselves. No housekeeping. In common/shared bathrooms (say per floor/hallway), most of the time there is a housekeeper/janitor. For public bathrooms, there is definitely housekeeping.
I'd advise her to ask which level these bathrooms are. Someone might be skipping them or they might just not know it is their responsibility. But as a parent, no I would not step in to this one. Let her do her job and report it and have others also report it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 16:48:25 GMT
Are you sure your DD isn't exaggerating a bit? Maybe it "seems" like a month? Has she been keeping a record or marking the calendar?
In addition, maybe these "marks" your DD is seeing are stains or just something someone is missing? I find it really REALLY hard to believe that any public restroom on a college campus wouldn't go a month without being cleaned.
I'd allow her to handle it unless I witnessed some kind of filth personally. I'd not send any kind of email or make any kind of phone call, putting my credibility on the line if I haven't seen this issue with my own eyes.
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 21, 2015 16:51:44 GMT
Now I have not said or done anything..yet. ha. But I've been thinking about this issue for a few days.
My youngest dd goes to a VERY pricey private college. We help her pay for it. It's suppose to be a nice college. When we toured it before she went there, it was very clean, kept up, lawns and outdoor areas were pristine, and very nice. Other visitors have gone to see dd have commented on how clean, beautiful, etc all the public areas are. DD is part of the housing advisor board. She is also one of the front desk workers at one of the dorms. She commented to me, and then sent an email to the main housing coordinator that the bathrooms in their dorm, namely the toilets have not been cleaned for over a month. They know because they have seen marks, or dirt in them, and it hasn't moved. if ya get my drift. Obviously someone is not doing their job. She did talk to the Housing coordinator. But do you as a parent feel like you should say something? I mean, cripes, we pay huge amts of money for housing there, and they can't clean the toilets 1x wk? let alone it's been over a month? I don't plan on saying anything right now. But to me, as a parent, I just want to complain! ha What did the housing coordinator say? and how long has it been since she spoke with them?
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Post by colleen on Oct 21, 2015 16:57:31 GMT
Never. This is her problem to solve.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 21, 2015 16:57:28 GMT
This is not a private bathroom, it's a dorm bathroom, shared by quite a few students. And yes, it is housekeeping's responsibility.
From what I understand they are very very positive that it has not been cleaned. They must have some sort of mark, or record, or something is laying there? that has not been cleaned. Trust me, I have heard ALL the stories about these nasty dorm bathrooms. Last year a tampon laid on the floor for a week.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 21, 2015 16:59:17 GMT
The housing coordinator said she would talk to the facilities Director. This was earlier in the week. I haven't heard if anything got done. DD is coming home this wkend, so I am sure I will hear all about it. Ha
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Post by raindancer on Oct 21, 2015 17:02:13 GMT
Now I have not said or done anything..yet. ha. But I've been thinking about this issue for a few days.
My youngest dd goes to a VERY pricey private college. We help her pay for it. It's suppose to be a nice college. When we toured it before she went there, it was very clean, kept up, lawns and outdoor areas were pristine, and very nice. Other visitors have gone to see dd have commented on how clean, beautiful, etc all the public areas are. DD is part of the housing advisor board. She is also one of the front desk workers at one of the dorms. She commented to me, and then sent an email to the main housing coordinator that the bathrooms in their dorm, namely the toilets have not been cleaned for over a month. They know because they have seen marks, or dirt in them, and it hasn't moved. if ya get my drift. Obviously someone is not doing their job. She did talk to the Housing coordinator. But do you as a parent feel like you should say something? I mean, cripes, we pay huge amts of money for housing there, and they can't clean the toilets 1x wk? let alone it's been over a month? I don't plan on saying anything right now. But to me, as a parent, I just want to complain! ha She talked to them and what was the result? I absolutely don't think this is a parent issue to be involved with. They are adults, let them handle it. Or worst case go out and buy a brush and some comet. I would want someone to do their job too, but ultimately a clean toilet is more important to me and I wouldn't just wait around for a month to see if it got dealt with. Gross.
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Post by raindancer on Oct 21, 2015 17:03:35 GMT
This is not a private bathroom, it's a dorm bathroom, shared by quite a few students. And yes, it is housekeeping's responsibility. From what I understand they are very very positive that it has not been cleaned. They must have some sort of mark, or record, or something is laying there? that has not been cleaned. Trust me, I have heard ALL the stories about these nasty dorm bathrooms. Last year a tampon laid on the floor for a week. See, this to me makes zero sense. For crying out loud. How lazy can you be? Something like that needs to be dealt with, and first off why the hell is it on the floor and second of all if it doesn't get cleaned up then suck it up, put on some gloves and deal with it.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 21, 2015 17:05:48 GMT
HA!! Raindancer, do you have teen girls!!! !!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 17:09:56 GMT
Not your place. They're adults, and she's handling it. I'd be ticked, though!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 17:17:01 GMT
I would tell DD that's it's on her to handle but if she felt she wasn't getting anywhere and wanted me to step in, then to let me know when she was ready for me to do so.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 21, 2015 17:17:32 GMT
Yea, fish, that is sort of where I'm at. Going to let her handle it, but ticked!!!
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Post by Karmady on Oct 21, 2015 17:43:50 GMT
No, I wouldn't get involved.
My dd was in residence last year. If the girls are over 18 years old they have 2 choices- complain to housing (and follow up) or clean it themselves. They are adults.
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Post by blondiec47 on Oct 21, 2015 17:50:42 GMT
This is not a private bathroom, it's a dorm bathroom, shared by quite a few students. And yes, it is housekeeping's responsibility. From what I understand they are very very positive that it has not been cleaned. They must have some sort of mark, or record, or something is laying there? that has not been cleaned. Trust me, I have heard ALL the stories about these nasty dorm bathrooms. Last year a tampon laid on the floor for a week. See, this to me makes zero sense. For crying out loud. How lazy can you be? Something like that needs to be dealt with, and first off why the hell is it on the floor and second of all if it doesn't get cleaned up then suck it up, put on some gloves and deal with it. Raindancer--would you suck it up and pick up a tampon if it was left on the floor in the bathroom at work (this is what I equate with a dorm bathroom--many people using it) I wouldn't
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 21, 2015 17:58:17 GMT
This is not a private bathroom, it's a dorm bathroom, shared by quite a few students. And yes, it is housekeeping's responsibility. From what I understand they are very very positive that it has not been cleaned. They must have some sort of mark, or record, or something is laying there? that has not been cleaned. Trust me, I have heard ALL the stories about these nasty dorm bathrooms. Last year a tampon laid on the floor for a week. I'm guessing there should be a written record of the cleaning having been performed- a logbook perhaps, and also a schedule that shows the frequency with which they're SUPPOSED to be cleaned... you know, like in the Walmart bathroom, or any other public place, there's a log on the wall with the shifts / days on it, where they're supposed to be marking off when the place is cleaned. I would think, anyway... it's a business, after all, so there should be written housekeeping procedures and schedules somewhere, and they should be abiding by them.
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Post by mrssmith on Oct 21, 2015 18:02:35 GMT
The only thing I would do is encourage her to get a group of students together to have a meeting with their RA/Housing coordinator or whatever, IF the response to your DD is unsatisfactory.
I can't imagine walking by a tampon on the floor for a week. I would have cleaned it up (giant wad of paper towels if I didn't have gloves) whether in a dorm or work. Gross as it is, I think it is almost as gross to keep walking past it. or at the very least call for an emergency cleaning or something.
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 21, 2015 18:13:04 GMT
This is not a private bathroom, it's a dorm bathroom, shared by quite a few students. And yes, it is housekeeping's responsibility. From what I understand they are very very positive that it has not been cleaned. They must have some sort of mark, or record, or something is laying there? that has not been cleaned. Trust me, I have heard ALL the stories about these nasty dorm bathrooms. Last year a tampon laid on the floor for a week. See where I went to university that wouldn't fall under regular housekeeping. Dirty toilets yes, (used I assume) tampon lying on the floor would not be considered regular cleaning. The kid that put it there (dropped it whatever) would be expected to pick it up and place it in the receptacle. If someone was to vomit all over the floor on a friday night that is also not considered house keeping's responsibility. ETA: my dorm had a council. If the girls were not picking up after themselves in the BR it would fall on the dorm council to handle it. I guess the floor RA would probably end up doing it herself but fines could be issued to the girls on the floor.
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Post by daisydonna on Oct 21, 2015 18:21:52 GMT
Step in only for safety reasons. Or health of your child.
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Post by mom on Oct 21, 2015 18:30:34 GMT
This is not a private bathroom, it's a dorm bathroom, shared by quite a few students. And yes, it is housekeeping's responsibility. From what I understand they are very very positive that it has not been cleaned. They must have some sort of mark, or record, or something is laying there? that has not been cleaned. Trust me, I have heard ALL the stories about these nasty dorm bathrooms. Last year a tampon laid on the floor for a week. See, this to me makes zero sense. For crying out loud. How lazy can you be? Something like that needs to be dealt with, and first off why the hell is it on the floor and second of all if it doesn't get cleaned up then suck it up, put on some gloves and deal with it. Total agreement. Honestly, it sounds like the girls are little Princesses' and don't know how to pick up after themselves - but that is just a quick judgement based on one thread.
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Post by mom on Oct 21, 2015 18:33:08 GMT
See, this to me makes zero sense. For crying out loud. How lazy can you be? Something like that needs to be dealt with, and first off why the hell is it on the floor and second of all if it doesn't get cleaned up then suck it up, put on some gloves and deal with it. Raindancer--would you suck it up and pick up a tampon if it was left on the floor in the bathroom at work (this is what I equate with a dorm bathroom--many people using it) I wouldn't Yes, I would if it had been laying on the floor after one day. As gross as it would be to pick it up - it is way grosser to have to freaking look at it every time I went into the restroom. Get a pair of gloves, take a deep breath and pick it up. Then throw the gloves away. I would bitch literally the entire time I was picking it up, but yes. I would pick it up with a pair of gloves.
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